Major Fuel Issues With The Used 6.7L Powerstroke! *Must Watch*
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no one drives my truck except me. I have a 2011 F250, 6.7. All stock with 145,000 miles and completely stock. The only thing have done is EGR cooler and body mounts. Great truck
22 years of ownership almost now with my ‘02 GMC 2500 LB-7 powered rig . Two sets of injectors replaced ( first set under GM extended warranty) and second set finally just under 3 years ago , my cost this time . I added an AirDog lift pump at the Replacement after I got truck back from shop as they did it in a day & a half & I got 3 years warranty on all . Two water pump replacements ( both done by me & yeah they suck to do ) in almost 200,000 miles & truck still runs like new . Of course I did 4” exhaust & air intake mods along with other personal upgrades such as Gauges ( old school pillar Mount boost & Pyrometer ) and an Edge Monitor for all other parameters I’ve set up has given me many years & miles of enjoyment. Still gets 19-21 mpg out on open highways when driven with light right foot & can haul ass when needed & runs up to 30 psi boost on demand with still STONE STOCK original turbo still chugging along . ( how , I’m not sure , but I keep my fingers crossed 🤞). Anyway I enjoyed your never ending involvement here Josh helping your buddy out in usual fashion . Good luck in future with ALL you do & share Buddy . Keep trucking on … 😎👍
@@T.ele.g.ram.truck_master07 Good morning from West coast . It’s just after 5:30 am, what’s up ?? If this is indeed Truckmaster & NOT some spam …😏
Ive owned the same truck since new except mine is a chevy. Injectors replaced under warranty as well. Nothing except batteries and other maintenence items since. Its literally been the most reliable truck ive ever owned. I had a 2007 classic LBZ I traded for a 2011 Duramax. It was great too, The 2011 not so much. I traded the 2011 for a 2019 King Ranch 6.7 and it had tons of power but wasnt realiable even after it was deleted. I sold it. MY old 1996 7.3 has been great.
two sets of injectors at 200k? thought the japanese (isuzu engine) were better, my 7.3l powerstroke is on original everything at 280k. its an 01. but thats not a ford vs gm thing, thats a isuzu vs international thing. honestly.
@@justinpaone2227 LB7’s had problematic injectors from new in a lot of cases when they 1st hit the market. Mine were replaced at 15k. Now it has over 300k on the same injectors.
@@justinpaone2227 The original injectors were very problematic on these early LB-7’s unfortunately. The first set as I stated were completely covered under extended warranty by G.M. That set lasted almost 100,000 miles under some serious harsh towing condition & using only the factory fuel filter & original CP-3 pump that on these trucks does double duty both sucking fuel from tank ( uphill so to speak ) & then pressurizing it upwards of 23,000 psi at injection time . After these went south and I had to foot the bill I added an Airdog Lift pump along with its filters to hopefully last quite a bit longer this go-around . I am to blame for not draining water apparently from factory filter after a long trip to San Francisco & back a few years ago & probably sucked up some crappy fuel at a truck stop along the way , then later hit extremely hot weather conditions ( over 117 degrees ) out in Mojave desert rescuing a stranded friend in my truck & shortly afterwards it stated dropping injectors like flies ….. Duramaxes run like crap on only 4-5 cylinders . I barely made it home & vowed to NEVER Let that happen again . Live & learn as they say … 😎👍
Thanks for all the help @TruckMaster! Awesome video
Thanks
Nice to see a Ford Powerstroke on the channel and ARod!
Great video content thanks Josh!
you think Bosch with all its engineering wisdom would master such pumps but here we are.
They are always trying to do more with less.. and that will always cause issues
Bosch makes all kinds of things on vehicles, not just fuel pumps.
ARod is the man. his knowledge of powerstrokes is UNMATCHED
Been a diesel owner for 35 years. Monday February 5th was my last day as a diesel owner. Purchased a GMC 3500HD 6.6-liter V-8 . Very nice truck and makes me happy
Why you pick a gas?
@@lt4753 Well it comes down to just wanted to try something different.
@@andrewgeorgelang less maintenance, turn the key and go, very close in power too.
😂@@lt4753
Gas rules. LOL
Did mine last June, 2012 f350 6.7 Love it. Have H S intake it has a bracket for oil dip stick.
Good to know!! I'm looking for a new setup. Considering Pusher, but I'll keep that in mind.
Yes I have 03 Ford f250 super duty XLT triton V10 super crew cab flat bed
Great video and sound information. Good length and content. As for your rebuild project truck. Hopefully nothing more than a leveling kit... Good brakes.. minor performance engine items. Cosmetic items kept simple. Nice clean build.
I was listening to Detroit City Rock just the other day by Kiss. This A-Rod gentleman is awesome
This is useful info for me when i go about buying a 6.7 Powerstroke! I will eventually own all 3. I dont know what it is but the 2011-2014 6.7 powerstrokes just look nice. Great video Josh and Nick i wish you the best buddy it could be worse a whole lot worse!
It's a great truck!! In reality I have only put money into brakes and ujoints in the last 40k miles. The pump was sponsored! It's actually be a very reliable truck and I'm extremely happy with it. The drama here on yt isnt as major as it's made out to be 😂
@DieselRanchYT Thats awesome to hear man. Glad that the truck is doing its job. My buddy has a 13 6.7 and I love it and it's super reliable. All the riff raff is just that they all have flaws but also they each bring something unique to the table at the end of the day. As long as the truck gets ya to point A to point B safely and reliably that's a good truck in my book. I own a 11 LML just hit 200K on the odometer CP3 and lift pump are what I'm saving for so far she's been reliable and kept me safe. So i agree the YT hype isn't always as major as it seems. Take care buddy and stay safe out there!
This video was extremely helpful ...i just purchased my first diesel 2014 f350 crew cab long bed with the 6.7 with only 80k miles and i had no idea what i was getting into....im going for the DPK first only because I have the money for it and the DCR is 1900 and i cant install it ....thanks guys for the killer insight
yeah man good to see my bro A Rod in the vid your camera set up is crisp too man cheers
A excellent video. Keep up the great work.
Love that truck. Perfect color.
Check out doing the coolant reroute kit to clean up the lines under the hood. SPE makes a great kit
I will definitely be looking for that. This isn't the first comment I've seen regarding that.
You can get a fleet card to use at truck stops to get a big discount on fuel. They are available to anyone and just hook to your credit card. I got one to use when I am pulling my40 foot RV.
Josh, what makes you think you can leave it stock?! Great video. And every 6.7 Ford needs the S&S update.
The square body was the best part of the video lol
Agreed 👍
Gotta get A-Rod to sell it to you to duramax swap it.
Cummins only used the CP4 for like a year, they were recalled and replaced with the CP3.
This is why I love me a Cummins. So simple. But they all have issues. Even tho i own a 7.3 😂
I totally agree
I love my 3rd gen 06 5.9 mega cab… HOWEVER, the design of our CP3 with the FCA, fuel control actuator that is held on by 3 torques bit bolts, tend to strip no matter what. And it’s a pain in the ass to get around the lines connected to it and around that plastic cylinder FCA when replacing it 🤦♂️ I always swap fuel filters every single oil change as a precaution for this exact reason to keep the fuel CLEAN lol
Cummins has gone back to the CP3, GM uses the Denso, only Ford left running the CP4. Great video Josh.
Thanks for the info 👍
Enjoyed this vid.
Your tech knows his stuff
I would be curious to see you tear down the old CP4 and inspect the pumping element for any obvious problems. The tolerance is so close in the pumping element though it wouldn’t take much to not build or loose pressure under high load volume. Most of the CP4 fails I have seen are in the lower end where the roller rides on the cam excentric and turns causing failure when it sends metal through out the entire fuel system. Such a poor design by Bosch! So glad I did the S&S CP4 to CP3 conversion on my LML!
Now I'm curious. I may just pull the old pump apart and see if I can tell!
@@DieselRanchYT it will make a great documentation video exposing the guts and pumping element of the CP4, and what fails on the bottom end. I took my old pump apart, knowing I would never use it again or torture someone giving it to them to reuse. I just can’t believe that Bosch would not have designed a specific guide in the bore that the roller assembly rides on to keep it from turning. it would be like running roller lifters on a gasser, and not linking two lifters together to keep them from turning on the camshaft lobe. That crap design should’ve triggered a massive recall IMO!
May be a lubrication issue. Modern fuel in an attempt to be green and clean has reduced the ability to properly lube the pump. Perhaps adding lube the fuel like we did in the old days could help. I drove big trucks prior to the non-sulpher fuel mandates pump failure was rare. I had an old Mercedes 300D 5 cylinder diesel that the manual recommended adding a quart of 30W every few tanks to lube and quiet the pump. Anyhow, it might be worth looking into.
The only thing you're missing at A-Rod's shop is Rainman Ray😁
Arod did and amazing job installing the DCR into my 2024 powerstroke. Wasn't gonna wait around for the CP4 to eat itself. Side note. Why remove the airbox and have that open intake filter?. Just sucking up hot engine air diminishing mass airflow. Never understood why people do this and decrease their performance. Was the airbox damaged? Banks has a nice open airbox that would be helpful.
Have you ever dealt with diesel coming out of the oil separator when pushing the power button (when starting or on acc)? - 19 F250 6.7
I have a 2014 6.7 Powerstroke that I’m currently replacing the engine. Bought it used 9 months ago after black ice totaled my built 6.4. Unfortunately for me on this engine some jackwad who didn’t know anything about a torque wrench messed with the rockers and didn’t torque them down. So I’m doing the DCR conversion because I figured with the new long block from Ford (yes I got one already found it locally stashed on a shelf) just fix it right the first time. I’m excited to see how much better the truck will run with the updated internals and updated fuel system.
Anytime, since watching the video I found that my turbo was puking oil so doing the KC Warlock retrofit. This will be one stout tow and work monster. I’m not building it to be a high horse ponies drag truck just a reliable workhorse.
If it's tune properly like mine, you'll be very happy with how it runs with the DCR!
On the original engine I was rubbing the EZ Lynk 3.0 50 pony tune. My truck is not a 9000lb street drag truck. I use it as a truck to haul and move heavy loads. But I’ll have a new 19 engine, new DCR, new Ford reman injectors, new KC warlock retrofit. I figured do it once and go. But I remember a video you guys did where you talked about having deep pockets with a diesel and here’s why. My original engine was only running on 19 of 32 valves cause some jackwad worked on the engine prior to my ownership.
In the manual you show, the pump gear has 2 marks and the cam gear has 1. When you show it lined up theres 2 marks on the cam gear. Isnt it 180 out?
I love these type of videos
Drivers side rail has the pressure control valve. Likely where the pressure was dropping. Sometimes when just replacing just the PCV, the bypass will continue due to the cutting or fit of the PCV to the rail. That is why you should replace the entire rail as it comes with that PCV and the FRP sensor. If the pump was failed, you would have no pressure. Engine would not run.
Yes
Arod is literally the goat of power stroke
That blow-by is common right from the factory the amount of heat generated in #7 and #8 and during regen meant that the ring gap had to be so wide it would be like pouring fuel state in the crankcase. It was common to hear that the Crankcase level would grow from 5k services 3+ quarts that is a lot fuel a lot of engine wash. I deleted mine right at the end of the warranty. My 08 6.4 SD is just coming up on 150K miles this is Feb 2024. I have a leaked rear main replaced at 62K but that blow-by is routed through a large bus type of Catch Can I refuse to let that gunk return to my compression chamber or gum up my intake? I got a small build-up on my aftermarket cold air intake housing it started to eat into the composite like gas and a styrofoam coffee cup. For real that can't be good for seals and O-rings. This weekend I will be thorough cleaning of my intercooler. Any help on that would be appreciated. Should I use mineral spirits, alcohol, break clean all the above? Really this gunk is bad and doesn't belong in or near any internal parts. I can only imagine what it is doing to the interior of my engine. It is like an acid
Wow, that's a lot of redneckery right here folks.
So that pump replaces a cp4 pump? Would it be good to do this before my cp4 pump fails? I just bought a 2011 6.7 this week. If you recommend could you give me a link to this replacement part
Yes it would be a good idea to swap to the DCR before the cp4 grenaded so you aren’t replacing all 8 injectors, dropping and cleaning the fuel tank etc.
Ford never used the CP3 prior to the CP4. I dont know where this idea came from. The 6.4L used the Siemens K16 high pressure fuel pump.
I would love to see a video on a cp3 conversion vs a disaster kit. How well do these disaster kits work?
As a new owner of a 2014 6.6 LML, I would really be interested.
@T.ele.g.ram.truck_master07 Maybe if were actually TruckMaster I would. Get lost imposter!
How can we get YT to monetize you again??? You deserve to be monetized! Love your videos man.
@TruckMaster @DieselRanchYT
The DCR pump conversion is definitely an upgrade and there is a lot of reasons to favor doing this conversion but I wouldn’t go as far as saying every CP4 equipped truck (Ford, Dodge, or GM) is a ticking time bomb and there is basic remedies to prevent this from happening. I do think it is worth noting for this video that Ford updated the CP4 starting in the 15 model year to the CP4.2 which is more tolerant to low quality fuel and debris with a slight bump in output. This also partially explains the issue Nick is having with his 2011 Ford. I don’t think there is anything “wrong” with Nick’s CP4 so much as it is being overworked for the larger non-VGT turbo that is on the truck and it is unreasonable to do a major modification (air) without completing the supporting mods (fuel).
As far as the blow by issue it is very easy to point at the blue oval but with it being a rebuilt/new/different engine and having no knowledge of the quality of work that was done. This could be caused by countless variables involved in replacing an engine and likely isn’t a engine design issue caused by the manufacturer.
I am only interested in providing the most correct information to my knowledge and not here to bash anyones personal preferences. All the truck in the last 20 years are very good, but they all have there specific issues too.
Thank you for this input!
Just started the video but change the CCV filter!!
This one has a reroute done. No filter!
It’s almost like manufacturers put the CP4 in these trucks to make more money when they need to work on them 😂
It mostly has to do with the ultra low Sulphur diesel demanded by stooooopid soft politicians, not having enough lubricant. Add a little opti lube and they will last forever. New diesel sucks, that is the problem.
32:34 What app is being used on that phone to the left of the steering wheel to monitor the truck?
It's got an EZLYNK tuner/monitor, and the phone app to receive info from it is auto agent
Yup
Does his truck still have factory turbo
I like the longer videos
19 and up Cummins have major issues with lifters
They say the most powerful and the most toque until they chock !!
Hey Josh ever thought of building a duramax suburban? I see them online sometimes and they are sick. Just a thought for some different/new content.
Can you please do a video on a LML CP3 conversion
@T.ele.g.ram.truck_master07 that was supposed to say conversion
I only go to Quick Trip they sell a ton of fuel and I never buy fuel when the tanker is there dumping his load of diesel because he stirs up all the trash or water and I have to go 10 miles to get fuel and above ground tanks are out of question !!!!
I have a question unrelated to this video but related to one of your other videos. How are the PPE manifolds and up pipes doing? Are they holding up well? I am considering buying a set for my LBZ. They are expensive and want to make sure they are worth the cost. Thanks
100% worth it my egt’s are way lower the truck breaths better. Also it the exhaust has a deeper tone
I heard the stock manifolds are fine until you start the mods to make HP. My lbz is stock I would love to see egts gauge before and after ppe manifolds pulling the same weight,hill and outside temp. I pull the same hill,same weight and temp with the deep Alison trans pan… got to the same temp under 212- 213 but took about 20 miles longer to cool down so I took it off.
Nice JOB! Could that truck use a lift pump?
Thanks! Luckily he has one ☝️ installed
I’d also be looking at the tune. May just need a revision. The tune maybe requesting more fuel than the fuel system will allow.
It is tuned by AMDP
Is the 6.7 quickly moving in on the 6.4? I hear of more problems every day. Keeping my 6.4
No way 😂 6.4's scare me
Love to see A rod again
Josh I like to see you build ram 3500 dually truck that should be awesome
Hi Shawn
My comment is totally off but I have a 07 duramax (classic) when I put it in gear the dash says shift inhibited. Any ideas
Don’t take offense to this but check the trans fluid most likely it’s low. I over looked this in the past and found out it was just low fluid
@TruckMaster okay I'll give it a try thanks for the reply
I put in a DCR in my 2011 F350 6.7 👍
U should do a video explaining who Earl is
I hope you read the directions that you posted it says to line up the single mark on the opposite side of the double marks in the direction in your video u had the double mark
That was the cp4, before we pulled it. The DCR has the single line and went in between those hash marks.
I have the exact same truck just hit 100k . Just a delete done thats it. Want to start with more mods to make it last
Yes I have went on vacation mom and dad had the ac on to cold for me
Man I just started a hauling business and bought an LML. I’ve had everything go wrong with it. Spent $7,000 in different repairs. Only to get it back for my CP4 to go bad on delivery 😞 safe to say my business is no longer in business
Super sorry to hear that bud
@@DieselRanchYT I’m not blame the LML’s it’s self but I should have got a power stroke 😭😂
What app is he using on the phone for the truck parameters?
I have the ez-link system on the truck, which sends all the info to my phone through the auto agent app.
I have an 06 lbz, I use a phone app but many of the parameters are not available. I need to get an edge monitor I guess.
The crank case filter is probably clogged. If that's a 17 18 or 19 truck I believe are the ones that had it.
Trucks is a steel body, so it's 2011-2016
This one doesn't have one
how can I pm you? I need some help from THE truck master with my beloved 02 lb7
yes i have actually
What is the consensus on the new HO 6.7's from Ford... rather buy a new truck
It looks like you were 180* out on cam to pump timing when installing the DCR pump if you installed it with the marks in your video. It appears you put the double mark to double mark, it should be cam gear single mark to HPFP gear double mark. My guess is the CP4 pump you removed might have been improperly timed when the rebuilt engine was installed if you couldn't get the single to double marks lined up... Does it matter that much? I'd ask S&S but I'll say Not a whole lot... Especially when considering S&S didn't time their pumps early on in the DCR's release... But what it does is time the pumping pressure spikes from either the CP4 or DCR with the opening of the injectors. This means you'll have higher pressure at the injector during it's open time and thus more flow through the same injector at the same PW, or injector on time. Secondly it reduces NVH because the pump is pushing through an open injector instead of a closed one. Did you guys look at the metering valve on the CP4 you removed? I'm very curious to know if there was any metal in that area!
I'm super curious now!
Just to correct you on that Cummins went back to the CP3 Cummins does not have a CP4 they did for a little while, like maybe one year they had to many problems with that CP4 junk
No ccv filter on that truck?
Nope. Ccv rerouted.
So funny seeing Aaron being filmed instead of filming himself lol
He has literally the worst luck with trucks
I truly feel his pain
Just Fords 😂
Just the 6.0 lol that one cost me too much... $$,$$$ lol. This one's been extremely reliable. Everything has issues 😂
@@RickySlattonThe Fords that have the same fuel pump as Cummins and Duramax? Elaborate.
@@RickySlatton🧢🧢
I have a question
To anyone that lives in Georgia, what are the emission laws like? Can you legally delete your truck. I did some reading and saw there is inspections upon registration so I’d assume not but that’s why I’m asking
Diesel are emmissions exempt in all of ga. We do not do vehicle inspections. If you move to ga and bring your out is state diesel they will probably check to make sure ur vin matches ur paper work but as far inspections ga doesn’t do it.
Found on road dead love my Dodge have a nice day
the one time i sat in the back of my own car was when we picked up my grandmother from the hospital but other than that nope
I asked when you bought the truck and. I still really want to know….did you buy that truck from Marsh Auto Sales? They sold me a blown up 6.4 for almost 30k and even had a bull shit work order claiming to have had it rebuilt.
I don’t know who is bought it from I think he bought it from a diesel repair shop
@nicktoutant4411 I bought it from a reputable diesel shop in Minnesota. But you're right. Marsh has an awful reputation
What’s bad is you have to replace everything that has diesel fuel going threw it and just for parts it’s like 10K and that’s not including labor. V8 diesels sucks , to do this job you have to pull cab !!!!
The only mistake you made was changing the pump and the fuel rail at the same time. So you're not sure which one fixed the problem, probably the pump but you can't be sure.
Beside the 27 he dropped on used Truck I been watching on your channel since day 1 how much money 💰 has he dumped ????
I’m getting scared think my only option is the 7.3
In reality, I've only put money into driveline stuff. u-joints and brakes has been it. 40,000 miles on it in the last year.
@@DieselRanchYT thought you put in new motor ???
A person can save alot of money and stress driving a gas truck as a daily driver or just drive a car.
Cummins 5.9 Questions Answers No BS Facebook group.....Are you a member selling stuff, because if not someone is using your name and likeness on this group... just a heads-up 👍
Thanks I will mention it in a video the scammer tried to sell something to my brother on Facebook and he called him out as well.
Buy the square body!!!!
Yes 👍
When they work it’s great but when you get add it’s a money pit !!!
It isn’t very encouraging that I have a 2011 with fuel issues and even the exact same color scheme…
Oh no 🙈
This should help you in case you have any issues though!! I'd highly advise at minimum having a disaster kit on it. Dcr swap if you can.
The diesel trucks are a nightmare when they get older and whipped. Money pits.
If it’s leaking oil, that means it’s got oil lol
wow that engine is loud, sounds like a 7.3. mine at 150k still sounds like a gas engine. think its time to put some Prolube and put 3oz per qt.
2011 is by far the most problematic of the 6.7’s. 15-16 is ideal. Every truck I see with cp4 problems is either a northern rust belt truck, and/or has a transfer/drag tank. The cp4 is very reliable. I have 501K miles on mine (2012 6.7). The cp4 is not DURABLE. You run water, sediment, anything besides clean diesel, it’s going to ruin it. Transfer tanks are the number 1 red flag, they heat and cool constantly and exchange air, which leads to condensation. Northern diesel is also more prone to freeze/thaw cycles that likely leads to condensation. You paid way too much for a hulled out 2011, that’s a $16K truck at best (with a working fuel system)
Ford diesel tech= job security!
I’ll say it’s again: this guy bought a clapped out 6.7
Bosch fuel system is garbage, it can't handle the dry diesel fuel. It needs lubricity in the diesel fuel via a cetane additive
Chevy 6.0 gas almost 300,000 almost 0 issues I don’t get the gas mileage, but she is never down. Tires and brakes that’s about it and she just keeps running zero time working on it.
guys a technician for literally the worst diesel engines ever made not including the 6.7 i mean if you want a consistent job until you die, he chose the right brand lmao
I think I’d get it fixed up and sell it and buy a different truck tbh lol