10:48 they finally clarified if a passive works after a character dies. I know it’s a small thing, but I like it and hope they start doing that more often.
Good thing I’m a Launch Day player. When the list of reworks leaked, I looked at all the characters in my roster. Majority of those reworks are already at gear 16/level 85. Only like 2-3 of them are still in the 70-80 level range and gear 13-15 tier range. And all of that was because I’ve been playing since Launch Day, I unlocked them when they were originally added or around the time they were originally added to the game (I’m 100% free to play, so I didn’t get them immediately, but I unlocked them a week to 2-3 weeks later), and I slowly built them up over time/throughout the years. Either they were needed for events, game modes, need to unlock new characters, they returned to the meta since they got added to new teams, or I felt it was best to take on certain teams by doing mirror matches and I built them up even more so my version of the team was stronger. So I’ll have an easier time leveling and gearing them further than other players.
Im glad were getting reworks, but this is alot to take on esepcially for someoone like me who doesnt have any of them upgraded. THATS 10 WHOLE CHARACTERS TO UPGRADE 10 CHARACTERS X TIME AN AVERAGE OF 25 MILLION GOLD EACH = 250,000,000 GOLD its going to take alot of resources to mkae them all competitive, plus they just trying to drain the gold box before the level cap and gier tier increase happen
I’m glad I’m a Launch Day player. I checked my roster when the list of reworks leaked a week or two ago and I noticed I had most of the reworks already at gear 16/level 85. A few of them are higher, but I have 2-3 of them still in the gear 13-15 tier range and level 70-80 range. So I’m further along than a lot of other players, especially free to play players since I’m 100% free to play. But being a Launch Day player, I’ve been able to unlock the characters within a week or a month to when they were originally added and slowly built them up throughout the years/over time. I have more of a head start than a lot of players. Mainly the free to play since I’m sure the top players max them quickly and maxing them is like pocket change.
yep, it'll cost me 250-300 million to upgrade them. And I'm someone who has a TCP of 105+ million with about 105 G19 toons on their account. We need more gold and it's crazy.
so will callouts like nightcrawler, xmen emma frost, etc still work on her? despite her not having the standalone xmen tag? Is that how it works with absolute aforce & normal a-force? (i wouldn’t know cuz i don’t have any of the aforce members leveled)
I just did the math on all of these toons for my account and including Medusa and Marvel. I need about 250-300 million gold to get them all to G19 at best. I have 2 million gold...
I don’t even care anymore about new characters dropping. I’ll never put money into this game again and will unlock them whenever I get lucky enough to. F scopley plain and simple
Get effed gold and training mats. So we get a raid team that can flex into a war and/or cc offense team. It’s an interesting concept. I wonder if that means they will also move away from incursion raid teams being op everywhere. Interested to see if they start using this format for incursion raid teams too. My gut feeling is this is a scam. Alpha Flight was good in war and raids without needing to build other characters. And it was easier to use them as plug and play, and you had the flexibility to more freely sub out characters. Maybe scam is the wrong word. But at first glance, I think I liked the Alpha Flight model better. If this is a one off to deplete ppl before the level cap, I think it’s okay. If it’s a new model, well, I’ll hope it’s not a new model.
Probably depends on how long you've played the game I guess. Most of these characters are already 75-90 for me. Storm the only one coming up from scratch. This is way less onerous than 8 new characters and gives new life to characters I've already invested into. I definitely don't mind a patch here or there with a higher percentage of reworks than normal. As long as it isn't minions, I'd love to see more reworks than we get now. There's never, to my knowledge, been a proper Kree team. Rework Korath, Ronan, M-E, and P-V to work with Ultimus. As long as they're good somewhere then awesome. Hydra needs 1 non-minion to make a Hydra team and both Baron Zemo and Winter Soldier are going to have some investment for anybody that's played for a while. There's plenty of teams where you could take 1-2 more recent characters with minor tweaks, 2-3 old characters with more substantial reworks, slap a new 5th on and make something new. Defenders come immediately to mind. Luke Cage, Black Cat, Iron Fist, Daredevil and Dani Moonstar? Cool, why not?
@Cormath I've played for about 4 years, so not a day one player but a long time player, 100m tcp odin meph all that jazz and even I don't have any of them characters higher than g13 lvl 70 as none of them have ever been good enough to justify upgrading. To upgrade them all now is a ridiculous amount of resources needed and imagine if your a new player it's even worse
Maybe for you. Majority of the reworks I already got up to gear 16/level 85 and had them there for about a year or two. There is only 2-3 reworks I still have at level 70-80 and gear 13-15. I think Beast I have built up the most. He’s level 90/gear 17. I built him further when Jubilee got a mini rework/stat boost. I figured AX-Men would be slightly better because of the Jubilee stuff and because there might be some AX-Men mirror matches increasing. So I built up Beast a little more. But I won’t be needing as much gold and training mats to work on all these reworks.
@@alexrobinson5922 You don't have SWitch built from when she was arena meta, or get to get apoc? You don't have vision built from when BA was was the tech raid team? You don't have Beast built from when he was mutant raid meta? You don't have Invisible Woman built for Knowhere Heist? No Cable for when he was needed to unlock Doc Oc? We've been playing about the same amount of time and somehow you seem to have skipped a lot of pretty important characters over that time.
@seminolewarrior1626 oh my bad, I mostly skimmed thro video as I watched 2 other envoy videos who didn't acknowledge. I will give it a proper watch thro later
@seminolewarrior1626 also where specifically in the video? As I know he does in other videos, which is why I'm extremely hopeful and excited for a collab
This is why I don't like the one character a year for Undying. It's because they aren't keeping up with the meta. They never do. The can't even defeat Mephisto yet alone these new teams coming in.
I know the abilities on Jean Grey and Hercules are incredibly powerful and therefore need to be limited (like Kahori should be) but I really wish they said 3 or more team members, by saying 4 more or more they ensure ZERO theory-crafting. As soon as you swap out anyone the abilities stop working, no adding Apoc, no adding Kang, let alone perhaps adding either of them to another team. This is NOT the Sinister/Superior 6 rework.
These are stupid hodgepodge reworks Better Ideas with “new” teams using the game modes that will be affected 1. For crucible team - add Jean gray and rework jubilee (instead of polaris), beast, storm, colossus (instead of cable) 2. For spotlight raid team - Rework whole f4 instead of just invisible woman so that thing and mr f can still be used on their war team and crucible team 3. For war offense team - Rework rescue, vision, war machine, and falcon and maybe add iron legion (like they did with sentinel) Still selling us 2 characters like before but now has 9 reworks instead of 8
The reworks don’t bother me. When the list leaked a week or two ago, I checked my roster and noticed I already have majority of the upcoming reworks at gear 16/level 85. I think Beast is the one I have built up the most. I think he is gear 17 and level 90. The ones that are the lowest built up are still in the gear tier range of 13-15 and level range of 70-80. So I don’t have to build them up as much as other players will. I won’t be doing as much panic leveling and gear as some others will have to.
@ it’s not the leveling part I don’t like it’s the randomness of it where if more thought was put into it we could have cool things rather than a hodgepodge of teams. I also have a majority of these built also The name “uncanny avenger” should say enough lol
I get to laugh at people who neglect upgrading all their characters. Everyone will have a rework again eventually. It's only right that this happens because it's the only way to remain competitive especially for us F2P players 🎉
Not sure why you posted this. You only have one toon finished from the entire roster. You are clearly years behind in progress. You will have a better understanding of the game once you hit mid level.
@@json_ao I don't either that's why I am at Level 95 with the highest upgraded characters at level 75. I don't play to win anymore or compete for that matter because it's just not possible so I just find ways to make it more fun for myself. That is having all characters at the same level
@@josephgiles1825 Sorry had to make the comment simpler. I don't really play to compete anymore, so characters which you are advised not to put resources into, I do anyway. So in the long term that lengthy investment as an F2P player is officially starting to pay off. While others probably need to put a pause on who they were initially putting resources to, in order to catch the characters that are getting reworked up, I already have them upgraded
Jean Gray should be among the most powerful if we are basing it on the comics. It’s always annoying when you have weak characters like Wanda who was nothing the Scarlet Witch in comics
I remember when I used to care, now...just unlock characters when I unlock them.
Good thing they’re giving you 8 for free this time 👍🏻
I always did this 🤷🏻♂️
@@yelsewt5 Good thing I really don't care if they're free or not 😊
Same. Prob spent total of 100 bucks on this game and I have Odin.
Couldn’t have said it any better 💯 @PhaRoaH87
I miss storm being able to stun all the enemies. Felt so good
I’m to the point where I don’t even know what most new characters kits do. Other than maybe the primary function.
Too much shit to remember these days
10:48 they finally clarified if a passive works after a character dies. I know it’s a small thing, but I like it and hope they start doing that more often.
Telepathetic lol I laugh my ass off
Thank God these all leaked weeks ago, and I was able to Rank them all up during the gold spending event
Good thing I’m a Launch Day player. When the list of reworks leaked, I looked at all the characters in my roster. Majority of those reworks are already at gear 16/level 85. Only like 2-3 of them are still in the 70-80 level range and gear 13-15 tier range. And all of that was because I’ve been playing since Launch Day, I unlocked them when they were originally added or around the time they were originally added to the game (I’m 100% free to play, so I didn’t get them immediately, but I unlocked them a week to 2-3 weeks later), and I slowly built them up over time/throughout the years. Either they were needed for events, game modes, need to unlock new characters, they returned to the meta since they got added to new teams, or I felt it was best to take on certain teams by doing mirror matches and I built them up even more so my version of the team was stronger. So I’ll have an easier time leveling and gearing them further than other players.
@projectpat8807 yeah, I'm year 2. I did buy one of the first Time Hiests (mostly for the gold) so levels wasn't an issue, but I'm so T4 poor
I did the same
Shame I don't have enough gold to level up the teams I do have unlocked already. Still ramping up Blade and co
Wow, we finally get an official announcement for a team that showed up in the CC room rules yesterday. Scopely has no clue what they’re doing SMH
Wow, it's only been one day! Calm down
Im glad were getting reworks, but this is alot to take on esepcially for someoone like me who doesnt have any of them upgraded. THATS 10 WHOLE CHARACTERS TO UPGRADE 10 CHARACTERS X TIME AN AVERAGE OF 25 MILLION GOLD EACH = 250,000,000 GOLD its going to take alot of resources to mkae them all competitive, plus they just trying to drain the gold box before the level cap and gier tier increase happen
I’m glad I’m a Launch Day player. I checked my roster when the list of reworks leaked a week or two ago and I noticed I had most of the reworks already at gear 16/level 85. A few of them are higher, but I have 2-3 of them still in the gear 13-15 tier range and level 70-80 range. So I’m further along than a lot of other players, especially free to play players since I’m 100% free to play. But being a Launch Day player, I’ve been able to unlock the characters within a week or a month to when they were originally added and slowly built them up throughout the years/over time. I have more of a head start than a lot of players. Mainly the free to play since I’m sure the top players max them quickly and maxing them is like pocket change.
yep, it'll cost me 250-300 million to upgrade them. And I'm someone who has a TCP of 105+ million with about 105 G19 toons on their account. We need more gold and it's crazy.
jean grey not having an xmen tag took away all my excitement for her as a character.
I thought it will count because Immortal X-Men still is X-Men. It's just one tag not 2 tags.
so will callouts like nightcrawler, xmen emma frost, etc still work on her? despite her not having the standalone xmen tag? Is that how it works with absolute aforce & normal a-force? (i wouldn’t know cuz i don’t have any of the aforce members leveled)
@@chloejeon1133yes it should work as per the A-Force/Absolute A-Force.
She would need the xmen tag. For kits that call out xmen. That's why photon don't work with absolute a force because she don't have the tag
@chloejeon1133 I'm like 90% it should work like that, but with this game code who really knows lol
So BOILON was right
I like this. Even though we're getting 3(!) new teams, there are only 2 new characters across them. This is how reworks wirh new teams should be done.
Make problems sell solutions
It's a shame they won't rework x factor and havok won't even be on x factor. Polaris getting moved to a new team.. It's like they hate x factor.
I just did the math on all of these toons for my account and including Medusa and Marvel. I need about 250-300 million gold to get them all to G19 at best. I have 2 million gold...
I don’t even care anymore about new characters dropping. I’ll never put money into this game again and will unlock them whenever I get lucky enough to. F scopley plain and simple
Feel better?
Get effed gold and training mats. So we get a raid team that can flex into a war and/or cc offense team. It’s an interesting concept. I wonder if that means they will also move away from incursion raid teams being op everywhere. Interested to see if they start using this format for incursion raid teams too.
My gut feeling is this is a scam. Alpha Flight was good in war and raids without needing to build other characters. And it was easier to use them as plug and play, and you had the flexibility to more freely sub out characters.
Maybe scam is the wrong word. But at first glance, I think I liked the Alpha Flight model better. If this is a one off to deplete ppl before the level cap, I think it’s okay. If it’s a new model, well, I’ll hope it’s not a new model.
Probably depends on how long you've played the game I guess. Most of these characters are already 75-90 for me. Storm the only one coming up from scratch. This is way less onerous than 8 new characters and gives new life to characters I've already invested into.
I definitely don't mind a patch here or there with a higher percentage of reworks than normal. As long as it isn't minions, I'd love to see more reworks than we get now.
There's never, to my knowledge, been a proper Kree team. Rework Korath, Ronan, M-E, and P-V to work with Ultimus. As long as they're good somewhere then awesome. Hydra needs 1 non-minion to make a Hydra team and both Baron Zemo and Winter Soldier are going to have some investment for anybody that's played for a while.
There's plenty of teams where you could take 1-2 more recent characters with minor tweaks, 2-3 old characters with more substantial reworks, slap a new 5th on and make something new. Defenders come immediately to mind. Luke Cage, Black Cat, Iron Fist, Daredevil and Dani Moonstar? Cool, why not?
@Cormath I've played for about 4 years, so not a day one player but a long time player, 100m tcp odin meph all that jazz and even I don't have any of them characters higher than g13 lvl 70 as none of them have ever been good enough to justify upgrading. To upgrade them all now is a ridiculous amount of resources needed and imagine if your a new player it's even worse
Maybe for you. Majority of the reworks I already got up to gear 16/level 85 and had them there for about a year or two. There is only 2-3 reworks I still have at level 70-80 and gear 13-15. I think Beast I have built up the most. He’s level 90/gear 17. I built him further when Jubilee got a mini rework/stat boost. I figured AX-Men would be slightly better because of the Jubilee stuff and because there might be some AX-Men mirror matches increasing. So I built up Beast a little more. But I won’t be needing as much gold and training mats to work on all these reworks.
@@alexrobinson5922 You don't have SWitch built from when she was arena meta, or get to get apoc? You don't have vision built from when BA was was the tech raid team? You don't have Beast built from when he was mutant raid meta? You don't have Invisible Woman built for Knowhere Heist? No Cable for when he was needed to unlock Doc Oc? We've been playing about the same amount of time and somehow you seem to have skipped a lot of pretty important characters over that time.
Falcon will be crazy in when it rains in crucible. Almost like they planned it
Give us more gold geez. hardly any of these toons are built for me and i've been playing for 3 years.
Boilon broke this news first week's ago. I'm hyped for this
Feels like none of the envoys is acknowledging that lol
@@MxJade04Mobile does acknowledge Boilon
@seminolewarrior1626 oh my bad, I mostly skimmed thro video as I watched 2 other envoy videos who didn't acknowledge. I will give it a proper watch thro later
@seminolewarrior1626 also where specifically in the video? As I know he does in other videos, which is why I'm extremely hopeful and excited for a collab
@MxJade04 I'm still listening too. I'm not sure if he does in this video. I was more or less speaking in general.
This is why I don't like the one character a year for Undying. It's because they aren't keeping up with the meta. They never do. The can't even defeat Mephisto yet alone these new teams coming in.
Interesting to see what they do with beast storm Polaris invisible woman
I know the abilities on Jean Grey and Hercules are incredibly powerful and therefore need to be limited (like Kahori should be) but I really wish they said 3 or more team members, by saying 4 more or more they ensure ZERO theory-crafting. As soon as you swap out anyone the abilities stop working, no adding Apoc, no adding Kang, let alone perhaps adding either of them to another team.
This is NOT the Sinister/Superior 6 rework.
I'm still working on my illuminati and SS team. Halfway through getting Apoc. Enjoying the grind.
These are stupid hodgepodge reworks
Better Ideas with “new” teams using the game modes that will be affected
1. For crucible team - add Jean gray and rework jubilee (instead of polaris), beast, storm, colossus (instead of cable)
2. For spotlight raid team - Rework whole f4 instead of just invisible woman so that thing and mr f can still be used on their war team and crucible team
3. For war offense team - Rework rescue, vision, war machine, and falcon and maybe add iron legion (like they did with sentinel)
Still selling us 2 characters like before but now has 9 reworks instead of 8
The reworks don’t bother me. When the list leaked a week or two ago, I checked my roster and noticed I already have majority of the upcoming reworks at gear 16/level 85. I think Beast is the one I have built up the most. I think he is gear 17 and level 90. The ones that are the lowest built up are still in the gear tier range of 13-15 and level range of 70-80. So I don’t have to build them up as much as other players will. I won’t be doing as much panic leveling and gear as some others will have to.
@ it’s not the leveling part I don’t like it’s the randomness of it where if more thought was put into it we could have cool things rather than a hodgepodge of teams. I also have a majority of these built also
The name “uncanny avenger” should say enough lol
Wow so many toons getting reworked. Now we just need upgrade materials, right?
This content creators are so lucky that they can use test servers and test them without even buying :(
Telepathetic lmao I'm sorry did you say -10 Ability Energy!!? If you play Crucible at a competitive level, she's going to be the new master key team.
I'd rather have reworks than new op'd characters. Rework the tags too already.
Please don't cry to scopley about this team let people have a little bit of fun
No resource
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Hercules! Hercules!
Actually pretty good stuff to hear
It's good, all I need to get is Jean grey
And Hercules cause of raids
I get to laugh at people who neglect upgrading all their characters. Everyone will have a rework again eventually. It's only right that this happens because it's the only way to remain competitive especially for us F2P players 🎉
Not everyone have resources to upgrade every character.
Not sure why you posted this. You only have one toon finished from the entire roster. You are clearly years behind in progress. You will have a better understanding of the game once you hit mid level.
@@json_ao I don't either that's why I am at Level 95 with the highest upgraded characters at level 75. I don't play to win anymore or compete for that matter because it's just not possible so I just find ways to make it more fun for myself. That is having all characters at the same level
@@josephgiles1825 Sorry had to make the comment simpler. I don't really play to compete anymore, so characters which you are advised not to put resources into, I do anyway. So in the long term that lengthy investment as an F2P player is officially starting to pay off. While others probably need to put a pause on who they were initially putting resources to, in order to catch the characters that are getting reworked up, I already have them upgraded
Yuck Avengers on my Xmen teams. Overrated losers who can't carry have to latch on for popularity... that being said, HERCULES!!!!!😂
I keep hoping for an avengers vs xmen war season.
Jean Gray should be among the most powerful if we are basing it on the comics.
It’s always annoying when you have weak characters like Wanda who was nothing the Scarlet Witch in comics
trash, keep up the fake excitement though lol
Herc not being Olympus Extract is an L 😂
X-Factor needs a rework and Havok, Strong Guy, and Wolsbane need to be added. Also Forge and Quicksilver need the X-Factor tag.
😮