SHOCKING SCANDAL! The Millionaire Poker Cheater
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- This is the story of a young poker superstar who had the world in the palm of his hand. He was crushing high roller tournaments for millions of dollars and playing in biggest high stakes poker games online. He had the trophies, the money, the accolades, and the talent. But then it all came crashing down. This is the story of Ali Imsirovic.
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Nice!
I can't wait for your next last poker video
Polk vs Ali HU at the lodge when? XD
Gotham Chess TH-cam, biggest chess youtuber
Great promoting content through content on other content of the same type of content while inviting the accused on in this content to set up possible future content. Sure makes me happy... or should I say... content.
One key takeaway: Doug doesn't understand chess, at all..
I was asked if I was sure that Ali had cheated. I replied, Imsirovic 😂
This is the best poker pun I’ve ever read.
I could say something like "That was a bad joke" but then everyone would just realize the real reason that I am upset is because I did not come up with it first.....Awesome pun.
@@izzi1shis is a super autistically literal comment lol. Unless English is your second language, then it’s cool
Not sure if you came up with this or not, or if it's in this video; but if not Doug missed out on a banger. Ha, very nice. Even as a neurologically damaged human, I found the humor in this and appreciated it. 👍
I lashed out man 😂
“Bro, don’t be the person that people think you are being because you were, by being that person”. Deep.
I read your comment as he said it, what a delusional kid. The worst is how he said that he was cheating to fight against the cheaters like he is a hero, that is full blown delusion and narcissism.
This made me laugh so hard
🤣
i loled
Hey Doug, I played at the Lodge the other day and a guy at my table looked just like this dude. He had a moustache though and he said his name was Fali. May be coincidence but he might be multi accounting the Lodge now too.
lol
this would be hilarious if somebody who actually looked like ali, claimed he was called fali.
Lmfao 😂😂
Doug is such a legend.
Thanks for coming back to TH-cam and poker from all of us!
He has to. 2,833 more vlogs to go! Have to Hustle his way back for bank roll purposes.....lol
Expect things when you play the Devils game.
Do one on bonamo now. Guys scum of the scum
@@Jiayne1335 lol wut
Doug made video against Robbie too. Shit his pants with stupid accusations and slunk away.
That's some proper narcissism on display right there. He's so used to being privileged and having nobody call out his deceit, that he genuinely cannot recognise how horribly unconvincing his 'remorse' was during that thoroughly pathetic confession.
Doug let’s his wife play at lodge
Sounds like Trump’s narcissism
Such a scum bag but it checks out. Don't know what kind of apology I expected from someone who does this sort of stuff but this is about right.
@@kineahora8736funny. I was thinking Obama
That's some proper narcissism to assume that's the case.
The fact that he cheated in chess with nothing to win , says everything about him.
Woah they didn't have any bets on those chess games?
There is no evidence in this video that he cheated in chess, although it is certainly possible.
@@LangCashman So you are saying he's possibly the best chess player in the world?
@@Dreamagain11 no he's clearly very bad but the accuracy score (which Doug refers to as 'rating') has absolutely nothing to do with that.
@@LangCashmanclearly there is evidence. As usual, online people confuse “evidence” with “proof”.
Forget five years. Five minutes ago I didn't know who Ali Imsirovic was.
Your segment from 4:25-4:55 is PURE GENIUS. Brilliantly done sir. How quickly they seem to forget. I was a victim multiple times to that cheating during MTT play with him.
this is why I dump all my money every time I play.
so people will know I'm not cheating.
I dump to one of my 17 alt accounts.
so you're not a cheat you're a money launderer
@@antzoomalol
The worst is how he said that he was cheating to fight against the cheaters like he is a hero, that is full blown delusion and narcissism.
Yeah considering if you could prove in any way or just warn the sites that you suspect it from certain players is obviously the only right thing to do. But you can tell he took 3 hours writing and rehearsing this “confession”. How has he not been arrested for this?
This is your GOAT video. Well played and hope Ali comes on your podcast even tho that will never happen 😢
imagine getting caught robbing a bank and having the defense that "this is what I do for a living, I had to do it in order to have a revenue stream"
I have more respect for bank robbers than poker cheats!
@@Gos1234567banks have insurance, poker players cant have that
“People said I was robbing banks with guns. That’s just completely ridiculous. I can’t believe they’d say that. To prove them wrong, I did the only thing I could possibly do. And I committed multiple armed robberies over a two month period. Not guilty, your honor.”
He only robbed banks to combat the series of bank robberies that he knew was taking place.
The sense of childish entitlement...
I stopped playing online poker a couple of years ago and this is precisely why. You constantly hear about players cheating. With all the technology that we have today and AI coming into play very soon if not already it makes it almost impossible to get a clean game online. Hopefully more people will be outed, I think the game needs it at this point.
I never understood why people were willing to play for real money online. The opportunities for manipulation sre endless. Cash games online are really dangerous since one guy can easily occupy every seat except yours.
online poker is for cheaters, always has been and always will be.
I played a bit of micro stakes online maybe 10 years ago when everyone was using pokertracker and i was the fish using only a basic head up display. Solvers were not a thing but everyone used something to track ranges and to gather and display statistics on players. Data sharing and multi accounting was common.
@@the_mowron Because people still win inspite of some small % of cheating going on.
It's not almost impossible to get a clean game online, but it IS almost impossible to not feel like you're being cheated whenever you consistently make the right plays and still keep losing. The normal Variance of poker looks like cheating every time. And it legit probably IS cheating at least some of the time. So yea.. not for me, thank you. World is full of bitter jerks that cheat at meaningless no-stakes games online. Seen enough of that to want to completely avoid online games with actual money stakes in play.
DePaulo and Dan Cates and even Eric Persson doing the Bbbbbbbb reaking News thing had me rolling 🤣
Love the editing and production of this man…good stuff
Hey Doug, I don't know if you'll read this, but just thought I'd caution you about the chess stat that you used late in this vid - its more of a relative measure between players. Ding would probably hit a 99% accuracy against the majority of the world. However, these super GMs that he plays can and do put really tough problems in front of him that makes it possible for him to make small mistakes. The bigger the difference in skill between the players, the more that stat tilts upward for the better player.
It’s exactly the opposite, the better opponents the better chance the game is played perfectly.
@@ThisKidLennon no, if im playing a complete new player in chess its easy to have a relatively high rating because I probably wont make any mistakes because their moves will be simple. But if im playing someone at my level then I could easily slip up if my opponent plays good moves. Its the same at the top level, sure their rating will be more consistent due to not blundering but small mistakes will still happen and if they played people under 1800 (maybe higher but I can't give an exact number) they could easily get ratings over 95%.
@@ThisKidLennonnah bro, 2400 here and I can play 97+ accuracy against sub 1600 players pretty easily whereas I frequently have 75-85 accuracy games against fellow 2300+ players
@@ThisKidLennon Chess ratings have built in math that says that if you are 400 points higher than someone you should have a 99% chance of beating them. These games were a 1600 vs an 1100. a 500 point difference. This high perecentage of correct moves played likely means the 1100 was making easy mistakes to take advantadge of. Given the same circumstances I would take that 100k bet no prob against someone that much worse at chess than me lol.
"It was ridiculous that people were accusing me of things I didn't do." So in turn he cheats for 2 more months to make a bunch more money. What an absolutely terrible person. Should honestly be jail time for the millions he swindled out of people
Come on the man needs a bank roll for God sake?
@@marksoutofzen😂
High stakes gambling is a wild word haha glad I’m not a part of it.. well actually if I was, that would mean I would have money… i take that back, I wish I was a part of it 😂
Doug, you and brick immortar are the only TH-camrs I have notifications on for and that I watch religiously thanks for the content
One note, in case Doug reads this, it's confusing to chess players to call the accuracy percentage a 'rating'. The term 'rating' is used exclusively for elo rating. I would just call it 'accuracy' or 'accuracy percentage'.
Poker community needs you Doug, keep up the good work 😊
Doug is such a troll and I love it😂
Love your videos man! By faaaaar the best and most entertaining in the whole Poker community! Keep it up!
Naprijed plavi!!
Bosanac vara, zamisli čuda 😂
😂😂😂😂 the zoom in on the dog took me out!!
Loved the cameos for “Brrrrrrreaaking news!”
For those wondering or who don't know--
Multi-accounting--You play at the same table in cash or enter a tournament with 2+ accounts thus making it easier to play profitably. Basically see collusion but instead of having to communicate information between multiple people, you have it all.
RTA--Real Time Assistance--Getting help during your play from an outside source. It is worth noting that some forms of RTA are allowable in some formats as there are certainly levels to RTA. For example Doug and Daniel I believe agreed for their HU challenge they could use pre-flop charts while playing. That is, technically, a form of RTA, but it was a) agreed on and b) is pretty low stakes stuff. I imagine the number of people playing full ring at .1/.2 cent who peak at a open range PF chart on their desk is pretty high. RTA scales up tho from having a PF range chat on your desk to having a computer running a solver or running 1,000s of simulations telling you how to play your hand all the way through. I have not played poker in a decade, but HUDs are another form of RTA that is generally considered acceptable (if I am wrong on this and most online sites do not allow them now let me know). To avoid confusion some people don't even refer to HUDs as RTA, but is technically assistance that you are getting in real time.
Ghosting a Horse--A Horse is someone you are backing in a game. You could simply have a piece of them or they could be part of your "school" of players. Ghosting in poker is when you play on someone's account that is not your own. This is almost never okay (unless you are Dan Bilzerian) for a variety of reasons.
I could be wrong, but when the new state ran sites like stars and 888 came out, I don't think you were allowed to use HUDs. I think ACR allows them. But I only play on global and bovada (anonymous players, so no HUD) but seems like most sites have done away with it. Which is good for the average player
Thanks for that info it cleared up a lot of questions I had. I have 1 question maybe you can answer for me though. In the very beginning of the video it was insinuated that Ali knew the ace of spades had been played already but it was in a live game. How is it possible to cheat in that way? I don't understand how he could have possibly known the A of spade had been mucked?
@@thomaslove6494he blatantly looked at the opponents right next him hand. That’s why he wore glasses the next day.
Awesome video as always, Doug! Love it!
Good stuff as always Doug! You're the GOAT
Many of us in the poker community find it funny that Justin Bonomo comes out accusing others, when he was one of the biggest online cheaters in the mid-late 2000s 🤣
I’ve enjoyed playing poker for decades, but I get a few opportunities because it is illegal in a fairly large radius around where I live. But to be honest, there’s way too many stories like this. People cheating in every way they can think of. People getting robbed. Live streams compromised. People cheating their backers. People disappearing after receiving loans. It just goes on and on. And then you have the hyper toxic personalities that ruin the enjoyment of the game for other players. For some reason that’s tolerated, but I can tell you that it’s causing players you would like to see and games go do something else. Maybe I’ll play a little to five or 510 in a casino on vacation, but you can’t play any serious amount of poker in this type of environment. The community needs to get its stuff together.
How do you even cheat in poker?
The breaking news compilation was absolutely gold 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for the video Doug! Now,. I know , we can all multi account and be a star on your show one day! Great content! 🤮
I always knew it's not safe to play online, because some weird stuff was happening for me all the time, it's like some players are very difficult to beat, they just know when I'm weak and they know when I'm strong. Many times I experienced I had to fold strong hands, getting raised and re raised from opponents, I had a sense of something weird is happening. Also online I have had some sick bad beats constantly for 3 months in a row, I never experienced this in live poker. I stopped online poker for good many years ago. Its just not safe enough, there is to many creative people out there constantly finding ways to cheat in some way, imagine how many people that are not caught and freely cheating, you'll never know when you will bump into them.
So it's very true that there's many ways someone could cheat online. And you probably hit it more than once if you played for some time. But having opponents you couldn't beat, is the mental attack of a normal game of any venue. Every player should strive to make the best EV plays they can. If they notice they are having more luck against a specific player, especially with position, taking abnormal lines can win. This doesn't mean cheating, but it's still possible they were. I just wanted to point out the idea, that you may have been playing in a manner they figured out how to exploit naturally, that you could have improved. And if so, hopefully it's not a weak point in your games in the future 😊 be well
Alex foxen is the same guy that got called out for cheating himself lol
Yeah, he and Brewer were banned for using charts, although were reinstated later. I’m pretty sure they admitted it…
@@Gibraltariano yep... and foxen was later caught cheating with his wife
I appreciate this work, Doug. 💪
the breaking news segment gets me everytime ahahahah , much love doug
As a chess player there are a bunch of things to note. The games mentioned are longer timecontrols then the games you compared them to, and longer = objectively stronger play. Also, playing against weaker players makes it much easier to play 'objective' strong moves to get high accuracy. For instance, when playing a weak player who blunders an expensive piece (a Queen, f.i.), almost every decent move after winning that piece is strong because the resulting positions are still very much winning.
Looking at the games in depth could be useful tho. Looking at move-times is a huge indicator, if he was taking around the same time on every decision is very strange f.i. No need to balance in chess :) there's also a thing as 'computery moves'. Moves that stick out because they dont really seem human. A human would not find those easily of quickly.
Just get Magnus to look at the games, Doug. 90+ accuracy doesnt necessarily mean he was cheating. Could be! Just doesnt prove it..
You are dense
95 avg for 7 games is pretty ridiculous. Would help to know their elo though. If Ali is 2000 and the other guy is 200 then it makes more sense.
@@zackfleisig7932 It just doesn't show the full picture. You need extra context; like for example their ratings.
I'm an IM, let me play a 1000-player and I'll score 95+ every single game.. But let me play someone relatively close rating-wise 95+ accuracy because much less frequent.
@@zackfleisig7932 Here's what is ridiculous: Judging one activity by the criteria of another.
Yeah the Chess comparisons is pretty bogus to bring up here and shows Doug has no idea how chess works. There is still obviously a chance dude was cheating but he's comparing ratings from Ding who plays at the highest level vs other GMs where it's very difficult to get high rankings. From what it looked like he was 1500 vs 1200 which might not seem like a huge difference but can be lopsided especially in the low round games. The one glaring game that I''d like to see is the 41 round game at 97% accuracy as it's very difficult to maintain that over so many rounds. I agree with the overall tone of the video and opinions but leave the chess out of it and don't act so smug like you checkmated him when you've displayed very little actual knowledge of the game.
Thanks Doug, awesome take on the response. Ali is a sociopath at minimum. I am confident he would cheat again lol he said I needed a revenue stream so I multi-accounted, like he couldn't beat the games fairly. They are deleting comments on their channel.
Bro let’s his wife play at the lodge I would ban her as well
godlike doug! thanks for this video and protecting the online poker world. much love
The gman cameo made me smile !!
I was a chess player before a poker player, I’d have to look at those chess games to know for sure, and while it’s _likely_ that Ali cheated in those games, accuracy is heavily dependent on the opening and the strength of your opponent’s moves. When I was sub 1000 elo I had a few games with 97+ accuracy just because my opponents had played so terribly that the best moves were obvious. And comparing to Ding or Ali’s blitz & bullet games isn’t perfect because Ding was playing against Titled Players with less time which is definitely going to lower his time (both bc his opponents are stronger and bc of the time controls).
It’s certainly suspicious he has high accuracy for those 7 or 9 games or whatever it was but it’s still in the “worth checking out” phase not the “dead to rights” phase. At least just based off the accuracy
I commented something similar. High rating is just a reflection of your level compared to your opponents.
Agree. I have plenty of 90+ accuracy games even though I'm an 1100. Put me against a 900 and I'll look like a legend.
You’re delusional, there is a 100% chance he cheated in at least 1 of those chess games with that accuracy. This wasn’t 1 or 2 games it was 7. Run the numbers. Lets say 10% chance of a 90+. To hold that 7 times in a row would be 0.00001% or 1 out of 10 million.
I looked at some of the games. I hate to defend this guy, but I don't think he cheated. His openings were amateurish and Chris is just really bad. In a game as black Ali played e4 e5 nf3 f6
I have an elo of 1350, but rarely get an accuracy close to 80, and that's primarily because I play against a lot of weak players and it's possible to recover from shocking mistakes. I definitely get high accuracy scores for games that end quickly, but in longer games I foobar all the time
Great video, have you got any more videos like this?
“……. I don’t wanna take the shades off” 😂😂😂
I've been playing since 2006 on most of the sites at one time or another. It really bothers me to here that people at high stakes have had to resort to cheating and found a way of doing it without getting caught straight away...makes me wonder how many have done this at the lower levels and got away with it because they haven't been reported!! Poker sites need to sort this shit out!
online poker is all about the cheating. the algorithms are written to siphon money to the sites sponsored players. Even when Ultimate Bet came out with Helmuth there was cheating going on with him being involved, winning pots with the worst hand! but of course, it was a "software" malfunction, not cheating...
@@id10t98you got to be one of those 1c/2c bad regs
I mean we could go back to the old days where even if u won u still don’t leave with the money 😊
from the chess point of view it is fishy that he got all 90 and aboves but you probably have to look at the games and see the time usage per move and the difficulty level of each move and see if there was a possibility of him finding that move that is the (best move) at his current rating level or if it is a move he could not find on his own without outside help.
To add to it, if the player you’re playing against is much lower rated than you, it’s a lot easier to have higher accuracy because your opponent is less likely to create a tougher position for you.
It’s hard for the best players in the world to have super high accuracies consistently because they play against the best players who are also making great moves and a lot of the positions become tough to navigate.
When you play against a player much worse than you, a lot of their moves will not be the critical line (and often will just be blunders), so it becomes much much easier to find top lines.
Hey Doug, see you kicking ass at WSOP Main Event, good luck buddy, we are all rooting for you!
Love you or hate you but god damn you can’t deny the top tier quality of these vids man
That breaking news collab was so wholesome
GOOD stuff, Doug. NOW go win The main Event Wsop. Its Your Time and the Lodge will benefit tremendously. I appreciate the work you put in Been watching you since you started. I think you're a big part of the Current Poker Boom!!!
What other channel did you have? I remember watching you on other videos but don’t remember where. This just popped up on my recommended!
Great vid Doug, but the RTA and multi tabling and teaming is rampant in online poker, especially in the smaller states only sites. I know its hard to report but its happening
MGM Detroit Poker App is one spot to stay away from. I realized it and haven’t been on since.
When the top #1 earners are all cheaters you are at disadvantage by NOT cheating
Loved this video but the Reggie Bush comparison isn't the best as Reggie never cheated in terms of on-field performance. He (and USC) actually were that good. He simply took $$$ off the field, something which is now allowed by the NCAA...
Yeah, and something that nearly every other big time team/player was doing at the time, Reggie just happened to get caught
I don't think he was comparing him. I think he just used Reggie bc he had to give his trophy back and was saying this dude should have to also.
Yes all the best as a human
But he should be banned from poker....
Can't trust a cheater in the game
If you want to trust him and play with him good luck
It’s actually a great comparison because what Reggie Bush did was far less wrong in terms of cheating and was still stripped of his award, so someone who’s cheating directly affected the game and broke the rules should be stripped as well. Reggie broke the rules more than he changed the outcome of the game
Ali was actually good at poker, just not the endboss he appeared to be. I guess you could say Reggie had no RTA though.
YOU'RE VIDS ARE JUST ANOTHER LEVEL
"I assume it's King of the World" classic!
The fact that there's a new cheating scandal every other week is discouraging
poker is full of degenerates
One comment regarding the chess accuracy. If you play someone who is significantly worse than you at chess. They are more likely to make really bad moves and consequentially, making it easier for you to find the correct move. This is why when top grandmasters play each other it is more difficult for them to score high accuracy ratings since the positions are much harder.
97% in a 41 move game is a bit much.
@@dylanshaw6764 really depends on the 41 moves i would say. I think if youre rating is around 2100 elo you might be able to achieve this against a 1500, especially if that 1500 has bad opening knowledge and blunders a lot.
@@FF-hx2xm don't know man... A 2100 elo player is probably not going to play a 41 move game vs a 1500 with 97% accuracy because he will smoke him before 30 moves, no?
@@c.l.368 no, from my own experience as a 2100 player on lichess i would say that i think i would gain a significant advantage after 15 to 25 moves but my opponent might play on till 40 moves till he resigns.
@@FF-hx2xm Fair enough man, still a little unsure from my own experience as a 1400 lol but I guess you would know better
Okay, I have to admit the B-b-b-b-b-b-breaking news bit had me literally laughing out loud.
the slow zoom on the dog killed me lmaooo
So messed up! I play on Pennsylvania online poker sites. I hope this kind of stuff doesn’t happen to us!
It's the internet sir. It happens everywhere.
@@KKSuited Facts. I also play in PA and have had people tell me that they play with friends and share what cards they have to give each other a better chance. I just stick to live poker now.
Cannot count on sites to be able to stop cheating by ghosting or multi accounting
That's poker Phil
Forget all the Ali stuff, that “Brrrrrrrrrreaking news” montage was pure gold.
Doug you're the best man I still remember that video, " slow motion, I though my chips were over here."
Doug is just the gift that keeps on giving ❤
Only at the poker table
Like herpes
I have seen so much live cheating I stayed away from online poker. Then in 2007 after a long first day of a WSOP event a whole bunch of us went out to unwind and all the Europeans and Internet kids were talking about was how prevalent cheating was and it was how so many got their starts as horses. I was offered to be staked as a horse multiple times with the understanding that if I ran deep at the same time with my backer that if at the same table when down to 3 tables or less I would dump my chips. I could not do this even with great backing deals.
Nice story. Completely bullshit but nice story 👍
@@brianelizardo6375 Dude that is not bullshit. You can ask any pro if this was going on and they would tell you definitely. I was ranked top 100 by Bluff in 2012 with two major wins and 6 major FTs. This is why I was receiving staking offers to run deep and dump. That was just the reality live at the time. Now it is the reality on line when cracking down on multi-tabling has occured so you have pros and their horses either in the same location or communicating by phone when at the same table. The biggest two I knew of were 8 players sharing a home using VPNs out of Playa Del Carmen and Rosario Beach Mexico and I knew who was staking for the best deep runs and who some of the horses were at the time as many are very well accomplished players today. The most common sick staking I saw were fat or ugly guys staking young hot girls in exchange for sex. This would start in even smaller live tournaments as this is where ladies got their starts. You don't have to believe me. Just ask around if this was happening from 2003-2013. Then ask about the amenities at the home games and why the rake might be a little higher.
Garrett with the breaking news clip! ! ! When he hits up the lodge stream it’s gonna be pretty tight. Just get those ultra HD cameras though man. I would switch over from HCL to the lodge if the picture was just a teeny bit more high definition, the lodges stream quality gives me Live at the bike vibes…like did you guys buy their gear? Haha I’m just talking shit but foreal man, it would be quite nice. I think I speak for a lot of viewers when I say we’re ready to switch over to watching the style of play on the lodge. I watch too much hustler and go dump chips at the gardens playing like them
Damn Doug really went out of his way to not say ACR 😂
The chess game rating thing is possible if your opponent plays really poorly.
I've had games with 95%ish percent accuracy when rated very low online, because if your opponent plays really terribly, the good moves are usually obvious / even the second and third best move are so good that you lose only little in precision.
But I honestly doubt that a smart guy like Brewer is that bad at chess. If he has a decent ranking, than it's pretty obvious Ali cheated
EDIT: I looked at Elos and Brewer is 1200 while Ali is 1500. Looks like Brewer had a couple of very poor games, but even then 3 games where played at over 97% so it's sus, but it could still go either way if someone posted the full game to any chess forum/subreddit
10 games in a row though, no bad moves? His opponent would have to play pretty horribly to never create a situation where he could make a mistake over the course of ten full games.
@@Camsauce87 as I said, 3 was sus already and I hadn't heard about 10 games. Over 10 games it is highly unlikely a 1500 plays that optimally
Has nobody in the chess world had a look at those games? I think that could clarify it very quickly
It Angers me how little Doug knows about chess holy shit if I played someone 300 elo lower than me I would also have 90% accuracy consistently. Accuracy is literally meaningless in terms of determining someone's skill
@@fateagliodon’t get your panties in a bunch.. Doug never claimed he knew shit about chess.. but he’s saying it’s sus, so he’s willing to put 100k down to back it up.. u willing to put 100k down??
" I saw my 300k was confiscated and didn't even fight it " Oh,wow what an honest cheater! I bet what he actually thought wasn't " Oh well, they got 300k but Im still up 2m scamming so f it , time to exit scam that Im a good person since the gold mine has dryed out". I just love this person sitting there and playing the nice guy and victim and denying accusations as if we all are supposed to take his word for it, it's like when my wife was explainig to me why she was in bed with the gardener
When I was serious and playing poker every day 5-10 years ago I was part of Evan Jarvis' youtube community. Charlie Carrell, Ben Heath and Ali Imsirovic were the big names that really broke out of that community and into the poker spotlight. I remember watching Evan break down MTT hand histories from Bovada and ACR that Ali had won. It was quite fascinating because even then you could see he was a skilled player. I don't know if RTA was available in 2015 but something tells me it was.
Thanks Doug for doing this. Saying someone is a cheater is a massive risk a lot of stars avoid. Call them out and ban all cheaters ! Big respect
“Justin Bonomo was and forever will be a man who cheated at this game we love, poker. Cheated. Flat out cheated. Since then, he's acted as a moral authority on all things good for poker."
*Daniel Negreanu
I don't feel bad for whatever happens to anyone who cheats and admits they cheated again.
He also went down the poor excuse road of when you're exposed by admitting to commiting a little to avoid admitting to all of it. Hes sat there like. I feel so bad. My family my dog wahhh. But remember guys I only cheated a little and and so do these other guys. So I'm a victim here. Was literally the copy paste youtube half arsed apology. Deny, deflect, self victimise.
I love how dramatic you are at the behginning. Its almost like a murder mystery but even more intense.
The compulsion to cheat is too strong. Have to do it in other games, too.
Thanks Doug for a well made video.
Thanks for recapping everything Berkey and the S4Y talked about 2 days ago.
Ima keep it a bean nobody watches that shit lol
@@dickhead8607keep it a “bean” lol I’d have a drink with ya
Accuracy in chess is difficult to compare between players of different levels, tougher opponents give you more difficult positions where finding the best move is very difficult, but when playing weaker opponents or a lob sided games where your opponents makes a big blunder at the start, can make it pretty easy to get a high accuracy. 92% at Dings rating is on a whole other level because of the opponents he faces compared to 92% playing a 1200 rated player. Not saying he is innocent, but I don't think its an open and shut case on the chess cheating.
95% accuracy over that many games is just not possible unless youre Magnus or Hikaru. To not make a single blunder regardless if your opponent can take advantage of it indicates theres external help. Coupled with the fact he played far worse vs players inferior to Chris adds another critical data point
Bro let’s his wife play at lodge regular they live in austin
Agree even relatively low rated players can get 90%+ accuracy if they're playing games that are straightforward, opponent blunders a lot, etc.. The % is not that useful without the context of the moves played, but non-chess players latch on to it as a measure of skill.
Similar to how non-poker players think someone who has $5 million on hendonmob is some sort of prodigy that actually has $5 million sitting at home in net earnings.
@@richardbustamante4547 yes they can get that for one game with few moves. But NOT for 7 games in a row! this is just not possible. Just playing bad players doesnt mean its easy to get 95%. You also have to find excellent moves consistently, and not blunder at all. Over 7 games its impossible for amateurs
Some truth to that but even strong players against weak players can't consistently score in the 90s. In games where you're for example up a piece early humans will simplify and go for the easy checkmate. But when you're up material you usually have the tactics working for you and the computers will complain that you missed a sacrifice that leads to a faster checkmate.
He’s not the only one cheating online. I only play live games at this point. Too much card sharing online.
On your chess point: If you are playing against someone worse than you, then your accuracy will be significantly higher. This also explains why in the games afterwards his accuracy is lower as he is playing against players who play stronger moves.
"Pretty damn impressive, why play poker?" had me HOWLING 🤣🤣
This is why I quit online playing. Doug you’re the man.
Don’t play lodge Ali wife is a reg there
There is so much of this lately. This stuff probably goes on in local rooms as much as it does in the high stakes games, if not more, because people can literally have phones out on tables and stuff, use signals more discretely, etc. Losing interest in playing the game as a result. I'm an honest player and it doesn't seem fair anymore if it ever was.
A lot of local rooms higher stakes games the grinders play against each other and split profits
Cheating in a legitimate Establishment is hard to do and easy to catch , online poker to me has always been ripe for cheating to exist , or even some sites just flat out being a scam. I played cards for a long time and not till recently I've heard lot of new players saying they're concerns about cheating.
I used to sit at a distance where I could see above and below the final table, and the amount of knee knocking that went on between players playing together was crazy.
I love Doug this is so great this is what the community need keep up the good work brotha
Anyone know the name of a software that tracks the action in each street while at the same hand to multitable better?
I volunteer to play chess vs. Ali (for educational purposes)
And you'll get crushed just like how Mikita (a proper poker pro not a wannabe pro vlogger) owned your soul with that set 999 Vs your JT average 2 pairs hand 💀. The level difference is like an adult playing Vs a child 😂
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@@mark12345678901000 which has nothing to do with poker. Only some old school grandpa will have a problem 💀😂
Did he stand up and look at the virtual chips?
At different angles trying to get the light to shine just right on the detent :)
@@CocoDave37 What a load of nonsense eh?
This is my first time watching your account and ngl, you look exactly like me LOL like a twin, hair cut and all lol
Lol Doug maybe one of the best pod casts I have seen in awhile. 😂
That Alec Torelli reference 🤣🤣🤣
That went over my head. What did Torelli do?
That poor dog did nothing wrong.
He just need a revenue stream
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How do you not get arrested for cheating in Poker? Sounds like fraud. If other people are helping you, that's RICO.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the part with bonomo though. Doug Polk your funny asf lol
Ratings in chess games can depend on how advanced your opponent is. If the opponent is not putting you in difficult situations, you can easily achieve those ratings. It’s like if someone just went all in blind every hand it would be easier to make a perfect decision against them vs a good player
Yes but not a 95 rating over such a sample. And coupled with poor results later on vs even worse opponents. This is six standard deviations stuff
@@dannyp321 I definitely think he cheated. But it’s possible Chris could be horrible. And if he normally gets matched up against much stronger competition it could happen.
@@edwardw4155 thats why brewer had a rating of 70 and above when Ali had +90 right?
@@huttinho3959 no idea. This is the first time I’ve even heard of this
Brewer was rated 1200+ in that format, nobody at 1500 rating is playing 95% for 7 games
"It happened" said the cheater, like it was something that happened to him instead of something he chose to do.
Then he has the nerve to basically say he went back to cheating because he "needed a revenue stream" (wanted money he didn't earn).
I died of laughter at the dog zoom ins at 19:15
Love the hair Doug, I’ve been wearing it that way since I was a kid and haven’t changed .
Interested in watching more of your cometary. I saw someone call you out for click baiting. Which I’m not a fan of but hope haven’t seen it yet
I just realized Doug became Coffeezilla for poker
"I was so enraged to being called a mass-murdered that I lashed out at this unfair description and went on a shooting rampage to clear my name up."
not even a little funny or interesting
Late watching this video, but have to say what a great job you have done. I've never played on-line poker, I've never trusted these sites 100%, and you must if you are gambling real money. The main question raised is why have non of these on-line sites been unable to stop 'cheaters', or are they not bothered as long as their profits keep rolling in.
I love the “Breaking News” montage!
It would be very interesting Doug if you could replicate his cheating by running a sim so we can see first hand how it affects the play, either in decision making, or by using multiple accounts. 😎👍✌🗽
What's shocking is that people think people AREN'T cheating in online poker, and are at all surprised by this.