It's 2022. I have a MkII arriving tomorrow. I am so pumped for it (pun intended). Cenk's enthusiasm feels so genuine. Sure, he's a sales man for them but when the really amazing sounds take shape you can see he's inspired. Hopefully I'll be just as inspired tomorrow 😎
I know Cenk works for Elektron, but you can tell he's really into the device, as he makes that "this is awesome" face several times during the video. If you watch the Analog Four presentation video, he does the same thing a couple of times. It's fun to see a demonstrator so into his work.
@@raedius_music Planned obselescence... Someone had better tell my Mid-2012 MacBook Pro i7 that it's supposed to be obselete, because it still runs like a dream! I mean okay, I had to replace the battery and the screen hinge is a bit wobbly, but come on, nearly a decade? And the last guy to own it was the editor for MasterChef.
I love those analog processing boxes. I have a Vermona Retroverb Lancet and some features overlap, a great little effects unit with drive, a resonant multimode filter, env follower, low and high frequency boost, a lfo with different shapes, sample & hold modulation and.. a spring reverb. Cheaper and highly recommended!
Richard Hilton absolutely! I'll never afford this (for my purposes), but considering what people pay for high end analog processing or boards, this is a nice box to fulfill those needs for people who mostly produce in the box.
The ability to use this as an audio interface will be a game-changer for some, myself included. There is simply too much utility in this box. I suppose it's time to start selling my blood again.
The more extreme sounds are surely usable for the kind of live setting presented in the very end of the video. There are less examples of processing more subtle audio source such as for example vocals, so it's hard to tell how good the device is on that front. Then again it is called Analog Heat, so I guess heavy distortion is its forté in the end.
Bought this about 6 months ago. Had to think hard about parting with so much cash. SO, SO, SO worth it. I will never sell this lovely box. Literally makes everything you put through it sound like GOLD!!! Was even better than I had hoped. Only watching this cause I was looking to see what crazy things people might be doing with it. Inspired by this thorough explanation. Can't wait to get back in the studio now.... I hadn't really been even using the LFOs, and it still has being blowing my mind the past six months. Filter was an added bonus that I didn't think I'd use as much as I do.. . even without using LFO!! ,,, Amazing bit of kit. Highly recommended and actually it's a bargain for what you get ;)
Fran Hartnett cool how does it sound on soft synths? And on a master bus inside the box. What I’m getting is you can run you daw thru this all analog box correct? I’m debating if I’m gonna buy one
I am impressed, wanted an Iotine core for ages, but getting hold of one is a pita, not to mention import, duty etc. I think people forget this is stereo and an audio interface. Is the input treated as another soundcard? Do you need to make an aggregate device ?
Awesome device. Can anyone tell me if I am right presuming that I can use the filter and dry wet to apply saturation to specific areas only ? Like „distort Highs above 12khz only“ ? Or „only distort bass „ ?
Ahh the envelope follower functionality is back. I've been missing it since the MachineDrum - it was awesome. Pipe in a bassline, fiddle with the envelope follower and filter settings and you got some great new sounds. It's a shame they missed it in the Octatrack and Rytm. It's back in this very expensive form factor.
Still not get why analog effects are "best" than digital. Could anybody clarify? I have a bunch of analog gear pluged to my DAW filter/effects and I do not see inmediatly the benefits of getting extra analog filters or effects (with the exception of certain filters). I see the advantage of the interface and the real-time accesibility but, I don't know, sound-wise for me, I do not see mayor changes
Digital distortion has a huge problem with aliasing. You can somewhat combat that with oversampling but that eats up a ton of CPU. Analog distortion sounds like the real deal without complicating things.
This is another great presentation to Sonic State. But Cenk is relaxed and super excited. Very cool to see him so loose, so enthused. His excitement about this product is so evident...and it does really sound good. Considering the price for a stereo distortion + envelope follower + filter...well done, Elektron. Seems like it fits nicely between lower-end solutions and higher-end rack units.
This thing is massive, only wish it had sequencing capabilities onboard for p-locking. DAW automation will do, I suppose. Looking forward to the inevitable "Elektron Digital Chill" too...;)
In Ableton Live its only possible to use one soundcard at a time, on PC. So using Heat with the plugin DAW integration will the Heat become the exclusive soundcard for Live?
Not on macs: you can create an aggregate device that includes multiple sound sources. Also with Overbridge you can bring in sound as if the external Elektron unit was a VST, which leaves open your regular soundcard setup.
Pretty sure when you use Analog Heat as VST in Live, the plug-in itself handles the incoming audio, on both Mac and Windows - freeing up your existing soundcard to keep doing what it does.
Kim Svendsen with the overbridge plugin, you do not need to use aggragated audio device. So in other words, your sound card n overbridge units can be handled seperate and work together
I have on of these and it's perfect for mix bus processing, or stem mixing, it's the only piece of gear I can't live without. Waiting for analogue heat 3 - next generation, so much potential
Thanks sonic state this looks really interesting and i like it more than i thought i would. Elektron are a very cool company and i always like the interaction between Nick and Cenk. Both gentlemen. Good Day.
Is it worth giving the time for the device to physically warm-up before use? Does anyone hear a difference between a device that was just switched on and one that has been been on for a while and feels warm to the touch?
For what it does, and how useful it could be in a high end studio, not a terrible price I think. It really does sound good. All of those distortions sounded so pleasant and non-intrusive.
So I can have an analog signal path which I can drop into a chain as an insert ? Using this as an au, vst or whatever plugin?......is the overbridge plugin just a software effect that is then controlled by this unit ( like a cc midi controler ) or is the signal path actually sent through the analog circuits ?? ( Im talking about using as an effect in my daw ) Sorry if I sound stupid im 4 beers in atm hehe
When you connect it with USB, the audio is conveterted to digital in the box and transmitted over USB. Its an analog VST sound processor in that sense. The overbridge plug-in allows for: bi-directional audio, tempo sync with DAW, massive bandwidth for parameter automation from DAW, and total recall of machine parameters when saving and loading your DAW projects. Overbridge is total DAW integration of Elektron hardware, its free for all users, and it does NOT conflict with your existing soundcard setup, it runs in parallel!
that is one useful box of tricks. that's a lot of guitar pedals replaced for one thing. price seems reasonable to me, and I love the elektron aesthetics. what's the build quality like?
Ryan Dadey Thanks, glad to hear that. I don't live anywhere near a dealer so it's aways a gamble ordering online without reviews and opinions from peeps who know the gear
Thanks Nick for this video about the Elektron Analog Heat. Was not so hyped by this news but after this demonstration, I see the advantage of this effect unit with the feature that you can use it as interface sounds also great. For me it's not really a distortion unit but more an analog dirty maker for signals :)
My question is... if you run all drums through this, how do you then mix them individually? They will all be on one track. Not sure how to use this in a mix. The drums sound good together running through it, but I don't know how much this would help from a mix standpoint.
those enocders he twisted a million times and the values where incremented in small steps, hoefully firmware will fix that as thats a huge issue, how about holding a button and turning the encoders for large steps as that sort of twisting for small increments is a huge oversight
if you view the video, oin certain parameters it looks liek its broken, he keeps twisting and the values jump 1-2 back and forth, looks like cenk has already broken his heat or the firmware on the unit is buggy
tabletop version works great for bus mixing. Pop in a USB cable, open as VST or au plug-in, and go to town! Every parameter is controllable via MIDI but why bother? When you use Elektron Analog series instruments, you can automate parameters at way finer resolution than MIDI, directly by controlling and automating the plug-in, super clean.
Is there a simpler alternative to this that costs *significantly* less? I need a good analog signal path to run my otherwise completely ITB setup through.
I like to get the sound sources from analogue gear recordings (cause i can), that´s what i do at home. to polish the sound and clean it at the mix stage, digital is perfect for my budget, love the Elektron gear in fact i like to improvise a lot cause Elektron gear it is a very clever gear and invites you to create, but all you need is in your budget, the goal is to achieve the sound that´s in your mind, and that is possible to do it ITB or with very expensive gear it is up to you and your wallet. I want to point to you don´t worry if you can´t afford this gear which is awesome. Buy let said get, i.e. Decimort from D16 and you will be very very happy, i believe it only cost 45 or 65 bucks or euros, it is an equivalent, c ITB solution to this Elektron Machine. I´m Lucky i own Analog Rytm 8 and Heartbeat from Softube, diferent sounding animals, but they are both beast sounding machines, i know for they sound which is which, but it is impossible to said which one sounds better when they are fine mixed and tuned even if not. same i.e. with Decimort with an envelope soft follower controlling a soft filter compared to Analog Heat. Money is not a problem today to do good music. To me it is most important to be able to do a great song or theme , if you can do a good song well mixed completely ITB, at end you alway can spend your money in a good mastering engeener who as the knowledge and the tools, this final stage is crucial for a comercial release, but at home you don´t need more than what your wallet can afford believe me.
they need to make 1 massive drum machine with sequencer and all these fx.full analog circuitry with digital ease and maybe filter envelopes. i think you can make great 909 house kicks with this. and some awesome hip hop basstortion.
Sounds very good. I think the price is justified, considering it has 8 effects, an amp, filter/eq, lfo, presets and stereo. Most single tone and function guitar pedals go between $100-$200. Unfortunate that you can't run effects in serial though.
Pioneer RMX 1000 has similar things, like 3band EQ, LFO effects, Distortion, sample play, plug in and more.., is stereo, but ofcourse all digital. and price was similar i think around 750 if i remember well, so Analog heats price is reasonable for beeing analog hybrid with soundcard! super product, thanks Nick! peace!
@Mr Dataline You made me buy the OT, then the AR, then the AK, now the AH. I'm broke now, but would do it all over again. Happy with every single purchase!
Very nice sounding box, although you're going to get a lot of noise in your tunes when you record through it. Even the Clean Boost setting with the drive lower than noon, adds noise. I am not going to even mention the amount of noise the other modes, add to the signal. Double checked by having nothing in the input to make sure I was not simply amplifying noise present in the signal path, before the Heat. So yeah, adding tracks that have been recorded through it and then also the final mix makes me wonder why I payed so much for this.
elektron has rackmount adapters for some of their other gear. Not sure if this is the case with the analog heat, seeing as it is of a different form factor than the MD, MM, OT,
Cool product, and nice sounding as well. Personally i have never felt the need for a unit with 8 discrete analog distortion modes, though. Seem like quite an overkill to me. I hope they come to good use.
I would have liked to hear what it does to the output of decent digital synths like the Virus, or one of the better soft synths. Or is "making digital sound like analog" not in the spec sheet?
I really like how Elektron design stuff. They surely make premium quality equipment, I'd love to have an analog heat but Its out of my price range. If I could spare the cash i'd go buy one instantly
Great demo! I'm personally waiting for some demos to surface of the OTO Machines BOUM Warming Unit before deciding if I should purchase this, I for one would shy away from the extreme settings as I am looking for something to add a bit of character to my digital sounds...
Xenophone, like many others is only connected up to an "editor" in the DAW - it doesn't do audio streaming over USB like all Elektron Analog series do. With Xenophone, Minitaur, etc you still need a soundcard / audio interface to get audio to and from your DAW.
This is taken from Hypersynths website :- - Full control of the sound engine (212 parameters) - Support automation for all parameters - Request patch from Xenophone memory - Load sysex file into the editor - Send sysex via editor to Xenophone - Save Xenophone programs in *.syx format - Save editor programs in *.syx and *.xnp format - Rename program remotely via sysex - Select programs and banks remotely - True readout for envelope and LFO rates - Sync to host option for master tempo - 128 empty presets - 3 Wheels: Pitch, Mod and Aftertouch - Run as standalone or VST/AU plugin. Look at the last line.
This is actually a pretty good price when considering all the individual pedals one would have to purchase to recreate these Drives, Etc. Plus it's Analog Distortion. So I'm guessing it's exponential distortion, "possibly multi-polar (High and Low Mixes like a Doepfer A-136 DIS Module)", as opposed to linear distortion found in digital drive and overdrive pedals..
Digiphex Electronics haha yeah its not like anyone will be able to tell the difference. You can actually get similar effects by overloading the input on a Mackie mixer.
8 different drive circuits means buying 750$/8 different dirt boxes to get the same value based on just sound, and 95$ a dirt box isn't crazy. Then, you get all these extra things like LFO's and whatnot, and it's stereo. The price makes sense, but most people will likely not need it. This is definitely not for me. Also, I see you changed your comment to remove the comment about dsp effects. Glad you watched further than the first 35 seconds.
yeah, totally, because if I set out to make this box, it would cost me $50 to hand make it... smh... Materials alone would cost me more than $50. I'd have to purchase or make the enclosure, print the circuit boards, design and buy the mounting materials, the knobs/pots/etc etc. Stop posting BS.
Little Gator Farm I've seen Slovak girls do plenty more for plenty less..she'll get ure knobs wet and distort you as well..1000 bucks! Ull get the full red light experience for that ,talk about HEAT ,ull b burning up quicker than a junkies spoon
jason mastrandrea Sure. I personally don't find their soundtrack stuff interesting and while The Downward Spiral is in my top 10 albums of all time, I don't find modern day NIN to be invigorating. Rather bland to my taste. And I listen to a lot of industrial and darker electronic stuff. People will surely disagree but I personally think their current stuff is overrated. Alessandro Cortini on the other hand.... I have yet to hear something by him that doesn't get me excited or lull me into a euphoric state. He should definitely be a larger part of NIN's albums. Amazing talent that guy has. Or Chelsea Wolfe's latest Abyss album sounds incredible. People should ask her to do their soundtracks. BUT these are just the opinions of a simple man.
Oh yeah! His awesome synth cave with all the Elektron stuff on the back wall, giant modulars, and vintage synths stuffed everywhere. He is definitely going to make use of this Heat box. I hope we get a new album from him in the same style as the Red and Blue albums. The drone stuff is damn good but he can sing and get a good beat going too!
This thing looks amazing. When I first saw it, I was also surprised by the price for a distortion/filter box. But 10 minutes into this demo I realized this is going to be a great product that will sell well among people who can afford and who use high-end gear. This isn't just an effects box -- it's a serious tool for music production or gigging. A lot of people here are complaining about the pricing -- well, guess what, it is expensive to design and produce high-quality gear like this. Elektron make high quality stuff and their prices are in line if you are making sensible comparisons. (i.e., don't compare this to Korg, please -- not that I don't love lots of Korg stuff!). Consider that Moog's ladder filter in 500 series is $500 -- just for a filter. Yes you can imitate a lot of this ITB, but it isn't going to sound the same and certainly isn't going to feel the same as using a piece of hardware. I could see myself processing a ton of stuff through this in my studio. I'll probably have to wait until I can get one of these used or on sale, but I'd love one.
Cenk perfectly illustrates how genuine enthusiasm and love for a product is the best way to MAKE ME WANT TO HAVE THIS.
It's 2022. I have a MkII arriving tomorrow. I am so pumped for it (pun intended). Cenk's enthusiasm feels so genuine. Sure, he's a sales man for them but when the really amazing sounds take shape you can see he's inspired. Hopefully I'll be just as inspired tomorrow 😎
i love watching these guys ... how theyre so engaged and obsessed, and im blown away by their knowledge and articulation
Analog filter/eq/fx + audio interface + overbridge.... why are people complaining about the price point?
I know Cenk works for Elektron, but you can tell he's really into the device, as he makes that "this is awesome" face several times during the video. If you watch the Analog Four presentation video, he does the same thing a couple of times. It's fun to see a demonstrator so into his work.
Usually the people complaining about the price of Electron stuff has never used them. Once you have then you will understand, it's worth every penny!
badaszewski I spent twenty years saying the same thing about Apple products
@@madmac66 planned obsolescence mean anything to you?
Alex Rae Yep, that’s my retirement plan
@@madmac66 lol
@@raedius_music Planned obselescence... Someone had better tell my Mid-2012 MacBook Pro i7 that it's supposed to be obselete, because it still runs like a dream! I mean okay, I had to replace the battery and the screen hinge is a bit wobbly, but come on, nearly a decade? And the last guy to own it was the editor for MasterChef.
I love those analog processing boxes. I have a Vermona Retroverb Lancet and some features overlap, a great little effects unit with drive, a resonant multimode filter, env follower, low and high frequency boost, a lfo with different shapes, sample & hold modulation and.. a spring reverb. Cheaper and highly recommended!
I love mine as well, it's an excellent option.
i wish it was stereo i/o though if i wanted to use it on bus signals
I love mine aswell. love the envelope follower that can react to trig or audio. cool litle box. looks evil too!
I love mine too, my favorite piece of gear. It can, however, get pretty noisy
That vermona box is sweet indeed. But this is a beast of a slightly more aggressive flavor. Espescially in the scope of what the analog heat does.
Is that an Elektron t-shirt? Probably the only Elektron gear I could ever afford. I want it!
Sounds fantastic. On my list for next year.
I didn't think I would be picking this up until watching this presentation...
@sonicstate do you have a dead (white) pixel in on of your cameras? 18:17 just above your left ear from the viewers perspective...
If I only had known that watching this video would cost me 800 euros.
MrKrisstain same here :D
lol
“Good things will come for those who wait”
Finally bought it two weeks ago...621 euros new
At the Elektron webshop it’s still 799 ?
Jacco I picked up a mint used heat for $500! Love it.
This will be amazing for both hip pop and techno producers.
I'd like to hear how it would sound on soft synths like sylenth etc so see if it removed that sort of plastic sound they have
Cenk and Nick do the best demos. Thanks!
Ace. Love Cenk's joy at the end. "Yes, yes. That will be great" (It is)
This is guy is great, he genuinely loves this thing. I think it sounds amazing and I'd love to have one if I could afford it.
Love the idea of warming up digital signals with this
yeeeessssssssssss!!!!
Cenk is my favorite guest on Sonicstate!
great product demo, guys! great product elektron! i take back whatever i said before - this is much more than a $750 fuzz box.
Richard Hilton absolutely! I'll never afford this (for my purposes), but considering what people pay for high end analog processing or boards, this is a nice box to fulfill those needs for people who mostly produce in the box.
Got an AH MKI in 2023, still feels relevant and exciting! Great work Elektron on building classic gear.
The ability to use this as an audio interface will be a game-changer for some, myself included. There is simply too much utility in this box. I suppose it's time to start selling my blood again.
The more extreme sounds are surely usable for the kind of live setting presented in the very end of the video. There are less examples of processing more subtle audio source such as for example vocals, so it's hard to tell how good the device is on that front. Then again it is called Analog Heat, so I guess heavy distortion is its forté in the end.
Bought this about 6 months ago. Had to think hard about parting with so much cash. SO, SO, SO worth it. I will never sell this lovely box. Literally makes everything you put through it sound like GOLD!!!
Was even better than I had hoped. Only watching this cause I was looking to see what crazy things people might be doing with it. Inspired by this thorough explanation. Can't wait to get back in the studio now.... I hadn't really been even using the LFOs, and it still has being blowing my mind the past six months. Filter was an added bonus that I didn't think I'd use as much as I do.. . even without using LFO!! ,,, Amazing bit of kit. Highly recommended and actually it's a bargain for what you get ;)
Fran Hartnett cool how does it sound on soft synths? And on a master bus inside the box. What I’m getting is you can run you daw thru this all analog box correct? I’m debating if I’m gonna buy one
Any of you guys tried this as an audio interface? Just plug a preamp into the line-ins? Is the latency ok?
souldn't heat apply analog soft clip the signal before coming back, on the overbridge plugin output?
Always fun seeing Cenk and Nick talking about cool gear.
I am impressed, wanted an Iotine core for ages, but getting hold of one is a pita, not to mention import, duty etc. I think people forget this is stereo and an audio interface. Is the input treated as another soundcard? Do you need to make an aggregate device ?
Awesome device. Can anyone tell me if I am right presuming that I can use the filter and dry wet to apply saturation to specific areas only ? Like „distort Highs above 12khz only“ ? Or „only distort bass „ ?
Ahh the envelope follower functionality is back. I've been missing it since the MachineDrum - it was awesome. Pipe in a bassline, fiddle with the envelope follower and filter settings and you got some great new sounds. It's a shame they missed it in the Octatrack and Rytm. It's back in this very expensive form factor.
Still not get why analog effects are "best" than digital. Could anybody
clarify? I have a bunch of analog gear pluged to my DAW filter/effects
and I do not see inmediatly the benefits of getting extra analog filters or
effects (with the exception of certain filters). I see the advantage of the interface and the real-time
accesibility but, I don't know, sound-wise for me, I do not see mayor
changes
Victor Roy If you don't hear a difference, don't worry about it.
Digital distortion has a huge problem with aliasing. You can somewhat combat that with oversampling but that eats up a ton of CPU.
Analog distortion sounds like the real deal without complicating things.
They finally got the right LED screen for their products. Sounds great too!
MonoMachine has the best imo
Mark GP Atherton yeah contrast
No pulse width on Lfo with filter destination?
This is another great presentation to Sonic State. But Cenk is relaxed and super excited. Very cool to see him so loose, so enthused. His excitement about this product is so evident...and it does really sound good. Considering the price for a stereo distortion + envelope follower + filter...well done, Elektron. Seems like it fits nicely between lower-end solutions and higher-end rack units.
I'm guessing only one instance of the plugin can be used at a time? Otherwise what would happen? It explodes?
It melts
Can someone tell me how i would use this in my setup without a mixer? just a couple of synths, maschine and a soundcard.
This thing is massive, only wish it had sequencing capabilities onboard for p-locking. DAW automation will do, I suppose. Looking forward to the inevitable "Elektron Digital Chill" too...;)
How do I control the Heat via Midi ? I mean all the parameters? How can they get controlled via midi?
In Ableton Live its only possible to use one soundcard at a time, on PC. So using Heat with the plugin DAW integration will the Heat become the exclusive soundcard for Live?
Not on macs: you can create an aggregate device that includes multiple sound sources. Also with Overbridge you can bring in sound as if the external Elektron unit was a VST, which leaves open your regular soundcard setup.
Pretty sure when you use Analog Heat as VST in Live, the plug-in itself handles the incoming audio, on both Mac and Windows - freeing up your existing soundcard to keep doing what it does.
Kim Svendsen with the overbridge plugin, you do not need to use aggragated audio device. So in other words, your sound card n overbridge units can be handled seperate and work together
the price for the "heat" is too hot for my tastes.
m ej haha yeah thats for sure, you could buy another synth for that much.
All the Elektron stuff is pretty pricey... :(
Don't forget it functions as an interface!
Bone Alias yeah but who doesnt have an audio interface at this time.
CalvinSomething ok I am starting to get "hot under the collar" heyohh!
I have on of these and it's perfect for mix bus processing, or stem mixing, it's the only piece of gear I can't live without. Waiting for analogue heat 3 - next generation, so much potential
Thanks sonic state this looks really interesting and i like it more than i thought i would. Elektron are a very cool company and i always like the interaction between Nick and Cenk. Both gentlemen. Good Day.
love they way he ended it with a machinedrum and monomachine :)
Is it worth giving the time for the device to physically warm-up before use? Does anyone hear a difference between a device that was just switched on and one that has been been on for a while and feels warm to the touch?
For what it does, and how useful it could be in a high end studio, not a terrible price I think.
It really does sound good. All of those distortions sounded so pleasant and non-intrusive.
Excellent sound as external effects unit (I've got one) but, at least on my case, unstable if you want to use with Overbridge.
When will Overbridge be available for this product?
So I can have an analog signal path which I can drop into a chain as an insert ? Using this as an au, vst or whatever plugin?......is the overbridge plugin just a software effect that is then controlled by this unit ( like a cc midi controler ) or is the signal path actually sent through the analog circuits ?? ( Im talking about using as an effect in my daw ) Sorry if I sound stupid im 4 beers in atm hehe
When you connect it with USB, the audio is conveterted to digital in the box and transmitted over USB. Its an analog VST sound processor in that sense. The overbridge plug-in allows for: bi-directional audio, tempo sync with DAW, massive bandwidth for parameter automation from DAW, and total recall of machine parameters when saving and loading your DAW projects. Overbridge is total DAW integration of Elektron hardware, its free for all users, and it does NOT conflict with your existing soundcard setup, it runs in parallel!
Short answer. Yes.
short answer....sort of.
What are competitors making that would be a less expensive or better? Examples?
the idea that you can use at as a plug in is brilliant and it makes it a lot more versatile. I'd assume you can use it on a return track right?
that is one useful box of tricks. that's a lot of guitar pedals replaced for one thing. price seems reasonable to me, and I love the elektron aesthetics. what's the build quality like?
AndyQ build quality is great. I mean don't throw them, but the boxes feel professional, based on using a few other Elektrons
Ryan Dadey Thanks, glad to hear that. I don't live anywhere near a dealer so it's aways a gamble ordering online without reviews and opinions from peeps who know the gear
u could totally throw it, it's built like a tank
18:50 reminds me of Squarepusher's Tommib or some kind of Disasterpeace track
this is priced right. wish it was in a 19in rack format though.
Thanks Nick for this video about the Elektron Analog Heat. Was not so hyped by this news but after this demonstration, I see the advantage of this effect unit with the feature that you can use it as interface sounds also great. For me it's not really a distortion unit but more an analog dirty maker for signals :)
So with envelope on preset volume it can be used kinda like a channel strip?
Like a compressor, you mean? Yes.
Mattias Rickardsson
Like a compressor and eq. There's peak filter mode and lo-hi shelves without freq. control
Yep, it can very much resemble a channel strip in that sense.
My question is... if you run all drums through this, how do you then mix them individually? They will all be on one track. Not sure how to use this in a mix. The drums sound good together running through it, but I don't know how much this would help from a mix standpoint.
Run a stereo mix through it.
those enocders he twisted a million times and the values where incremented in small steps, hoefully firmware will fix that as thats a huge issue, how about holding a button and turning the encoders for large steps as that sort of twisting for small increments is a huge oversight
synth master you can already do that. On all Elektron units, clicking in and turning the encoder changes more values of the parameter
if you view the video, oin certain parameters it looks liek its broken,
he keeps twisting and the values jump 1-2 back and forth, looks like
cenk has already broken his heat or the firmware on the unit is buggy
I really like the idea of this in my setup since I don't have any outboard signal processing. Any body know of a rack mount unit that works like this?
Great demo. I'm looking forward to adding this to my setup. It seems to be what I've been looking for.
they should make a rack mount version for bus mixing hopefully the filter is midi programable
tabletop version works great for bus mixing. Pop in a USB cable, open as VST or au plug-in, and go to town! Every parameter is controllable via MIDI but why bother? When you use Elektron Analog series instruments, you can automate parameters at way finer resolution than MIDI, directly by controlling and automating the plug-in, super clean.
Be ideal if you could jump the effects around like on the JD990
Question: He mentions LA2A and “Pooltech” but I didn’t find the latter on a google search, does anyone know what he’s referring too?
Pultech eq unit
Excellent review!
Thanks for remembering to ask about the sample rate because the manual doesn't even say.
Is there a simpler alternative to this that costs *significantly* less? I need a good analog signal path to run my otherwise completely ITB setup through.
mackie vlz 1604 1gen gain knob
I like to get the sound sources from analogue gear recordings (cause i can), that´s what i do at home. to polish the sound and clean it at the mix stage, digital is perfect for my budget, love the Elektron gear in fact i like to improvise a lot cause Elektron gear it is a very clever gear and invites you to create, but all you need is in your budget, the goal is to achieve the sound that´s in your mind, and that is possible to do it ITB or with very expensive gear it is up to you and your wallet. I want to point to you don´t worry if you can´t afford this gear which is awesome. Buy let said get, i.e. Decimort from D16 and you will be very very happy, i believe it only cost 45 or 65 bucks or euros, it is an equivalent, c ITB solution to this Elektron Machine. I´m Lucky i own Analog Rytm 8 and Heartbeat from Softube, diferent sounding animals, but they are both beast sounding machines, i know for they sound which is which, but it is impossible to said which one sounds better when they are fine mixed and tuned even if not. same i.e. with Decimort with an envelope soft follower controlling a soft filter compared to Analog Heat. Money is not a problem today to do good music. To me it is most important to be able to do a great song or theme , if you can do a good song well mixed completely ITB, at end you alway can spend your money in a good mastering engeener who as the knowledge and the tools, this final stage is crucial for a comercial release, but at home you don´t need more than what your wallet can afford believe me.
they need to make 1 massive drum machine with sequencer and all these fx.full analog circuitry with digital ease and maybe filter envelopes. i think you can make great 909 house kicks with this. and some awesome hip hop basstortion.
seems like the peak but without the synth
same process with analogue filters, distotion and digi effects.
damned changed my mind, this box is the shit. absolutelly will change my life
can you run mono sources through this as well?
how does the "analog heat" compare to the "niio lotine core"?
Sounds very good. I think the price is justified, considering it has 8 effects, an amp, filter/eq, lfo, presets and stereo. Most single tone and function guitar pedals go between $100-$200. Unfortunate that you can't run effects in serial though.
Can this be used as a Send/Return EFX Processor? Kind of like the Pioneer RMX-1000?
Why not?
yes
Pioneer RMX 1000 has similar things, like 3band EQ, LFO effects, Distortion, sample play, plug in and more.., is stereo, but ofcourse all digital. and price was similar i think around 750 if i remember well, so Analog heats price is reasonable for beeing analog hybrid with soundcard! super product, thanks Nick! peace!
I would love this unit as a 19" rack mount for last in chain audio processing for live situations.
@Mr Dataline You made me buy the OT, then the AR, then the AK, now the AH.
I'm broke now, but would do it all over again. Happy with every single purchase!
Very nice sounding box, although you're going to get a lot of noise in your tunes when you record through it. Even the Clean Boost setting with the drive lower than noon, adds noise.
I am not going to even mention the amount of noise the other modes, add to the signal.
Double checked by having nothing in the input to make sure I was not simply amplifying noise present in the signal path, before the Heat.
So yeah, adding tracks that have been recorded through it and then also the final mix makes me wonder why I payed so much for this.
Is this EL/LED display going to be a new trend for upcoming Elektron boxes? That would be nice.
Red on Black LED? White on Black would have been easier on the eyes and blend better with the unit since the unit itself has that color scheme.
Did anything happen with the stereo features you were talking about? Does it have any new functionality?
A similar idea in my opinion are plugins like Quadrafuzz v2 and iZotope has a version of it as well.
Another mini-lcd display? For that price it should have a display like Maschine Studio!
should have been a rack mounted 8 in 8 out box
I agree, why does everything have to be Table Top.
elektron has rackmount adapters for some of their other gear. Not sure if this is the case with the analog heat, seeing as it is of a different form factor than the MD, MM, OT,
my thoughts exactly!
Cool product, and nice sounding as well. Personally i have never felt the need for a unit with 8 discrete analog distortion modes, though. Seem like quite an overkill to me. I hope they come to good use.
I would have liked to hear what it does to the output of decent digital synths like the Virus, or one of the better soft synths. Or is "making digital sound like analog" not in the spec sheet?
I really like how Elektron design stuff. They surely make premium quality equipment, I'd love to have an analog heat but Its out of my price range. If I could spare the cash i'd go buy one instantly
Electron How do you emulate tubes with analog circuitry ... ?
bladuck1 pedal manufacturers have been doing this for years, successfully.
Great demo! I'm personally waiting for some demos to surface of the OTO Machines BOUM Warming Unit before deciding if I should purchase this, I for one would shy away from the extreme settings as I am looking for something to add a bit of character to my digital sounds...
Is there any other analog gear that has the ability to work as an "kind of vst" ?
Hypersynth Xenophone.
Xenophone, like many others is only connected up to an "editor" in the DAW - it doesn't do audio streaming over USB like all Elektron Analog series do. With Xenophone, Minitaur, etc you still need a soundcard / audio interface to get audio to and from your DAW.
This is taken from Hypersynths website :-
- Full control of the sound engine (212 parameters)
- Support automation for all parameters
- Request patch from Xenophone memory
- Load sysex file into the editor
- Send sysex via editor to Xenophone
- Save Xenophone programs in *.syx format
- Save editor programs in *.syx and *.xnp format
- Rename program remotely via sysex
- Select programs and banks remotely
- True readout for envelope and LFO rates
- Sync to host option for master tempo
- 128 empty presets
- 3 Wheels: Pitch, Mod and Aftertouch
- Run as standalone or VST/AU plugin.
Look at the last line.
Specs listed are for the editor software. But thanks for providing that info!
This is actually a pretty good price when considering all the individual pedals one would have to purchase to recreate these Drives, Etc. Plus it's Analog Distortion. So I'm guessing it's exponential distortion, "possibly multi-polar (High and Low Mixes like a Doepfer A-136 DIS Module)", as opposed to linear distortion found in digital drive and overdrive pedals..
out of the 8 unique circuits, a wide variety of distortion / overdrive methods are explored
This can be used as a summing mixer in a sense right?
No, stereo processor
If you can't afford it, the ableton lfo, autofilter, overdrive can be put together in these same ways. However, it won't be "analog."
I think the CamelPhat Plugin also had a similar approach... Of course digitally
Digiphex Electronics haha yeah its not like anyone will be able to tell the difference. You can actually get similar effects by overloading the input on a Mackie mixer.
this is digital too. it's dsp
i think the best digital alternative to this is Fab Filter Saturn
Gregor Samsa never tried that. I'll have look.
i'll buy it but only if the levels go to +11....
mate they go to 127
sm0hm going to the shops now :)
LMFAO
love it lol
$750 for effects.......... Between Dave Smith, Teenage Engineering and Elektron I swear they compete for the most loopy prices...
8 different drive circuits means buying 750$/8 different dirt boxes to get the same value based on just sound, and 95$ a dirt box isn't crazy. Then, you get all these extra things like LFO's and whatnot, and it's stereo. The price makes sense, but most people will likely not need it. This is definitely not for me.
Also, I see you changed your comment to remove the comment about dsp effects. Glad you watched further than the first 35 seconds.
Khalyle Hagood im not knocking it but I'd have to try it a few times before I'd even consider investing in it
Only one round number, needs more zeros if you want to be loopy!
Considering something like a Strymon Big Sky costs $500, I'd say this is fair.
yeah, totally, because if I set out to make this box, it would cost me $50 to hand make it... smh... Materials alone would cost me more than $50. I'd have to purchase or make the enclosure, print the circuit boards, design and buy the mounting materials, the knobs/pots/etc etc. Stop posting BS.
Sure, it's a crunchy biscuit! :D
I love Cenk, best company 'promo-guy/fan-boy' ever.
how fast are that guys fingers!!?!
I understand this thing has a high price point but people seem to forget all those strymon boxes that are $500+ those are great too.
This thing does a LOT for under 1000 bucks.
Little Gator Farm I've seen Slovak girls do plenty more for plenty less..she'll get ure knobs wet and distort you as well..1000 bucks! Ull get the full red light experience for that ,talk about HEAT ,ull b burning up quicker than a junkies spoon
Trent Reznor and Atticus are going to love this.
Oh great, can't wait to hear more detuned piano ran through distortion for their next 5 Hollywood soundtracks. :P
John Doe yes, but so tastefully applied. :)
jason mastrandrea Sure. I personally don't find their soundtrack stuff interesting and while The Downward Spiral is in my top 10 albums of all time, I don't find modern day NIN to be invigorating. Rather bland to my taste. And I listen to a lot of industrial and darker electronic stuff. People will surely disagree but I personally think their current stuff is overrated. Alessandro Cortini on the other hand.... I have yet to hear something by him that doesn't get me excited or lull me into a euphoric state. He should definitely be a larger part of NIN's albums. Amazing talent that guy has. Or Chelsea Wolfe's latest Abyss album sounds incredible. People should ask her to do their soundtracks. BUT these are just the opinions of a simple man.
I agree about more Cortini. Have you seen his sonic state feature? Great look into his gear and methodology.
Oh yeah! His awesome synth cave with all the Elektron stuff on the back wall, giant modulars, and vintage synths stuffed everywhere. He is definitely going to make use of this Heat box. I hope we get a new album from him in the same style as the Red and Blue albums. The drone stuff is damn good but he can sing and get a good beat going too!
I really see this more geared for the studio.
This thing looks amazing. When I first saw it, I was also surprised by the price for a distortion/filter box. But 10 minutes into this demo I realized this is going to be a great product that will sell well among people who can afford and who use high-end gear. This isn't just an effects box -- it's a serious tool for music production or gigging. A lot of people here are complaining about the pricing -- well, guess what, it is expensive to design and produce high-quality gear like this. Elektron make high quality stuff and their prices are in line if you are making sensible comparisons. (i.e., don't compare this to Korg, please -- not that I don't love lots of Korg stuff!). Consider that Moog's ladder filter in 500 series is $500 -- just for a filter. Yes you can imitate a lot of this ITB, but it isn't going to sound the same and certainly isn't going to feel the same as using a piece of hardware. I could see myself processing a ton of stuff through this in my studio. I'll probably have to wait until I can get one of these used or on sale, but I'd love one.
I would use it to fatten up my mixes ,it's not that needed if you use a daw which will have stacks of effects
filter AFTER the distortion? Don't you want it the other way around?
Don't get me wrong I like the unit but not with the price tag... If you throw in built-in skymon verb... With bmp delay