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Dollar Tree Foam Board - Removing Paper
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2012
- A Metal Aviation forum member asked what type of foam I use and why I use 9mm thickness. So here's my overview of Dollar Tree Foam. I also demonstrate how to quickly remove the paper covering.
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8 years later this is still a Great Tip! Really works super!
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Dollar tree, dollar general, and family dollar foam flies so nice. I didn't remove any of the paper and built a damn nice plane that flies so close to scale. Love the video, I came here cuz if you remove some of the paper, it's easier to make a round fuselage.
Back when I first started the channel, everyone was still on the depron bandwagon. I always used DTF instead, since it was cheaper and I don't like super light planes. Funny how times change. Back them peeps would start verbal fights with me over stating depron sucked and DTF was the way to go. Now everyone uses DTF. Weight is completely overrated in this hobby and depron still sucks.
Thanks this worked perfectly on my 10mm foam board, sprayed it with 91% isopropyl alcohol,left it for about 30-40 seconds and the paper pealed right off in one piece 👍🏼👌
Keep the paper. It'll dry back to normal and can be used for all kinds of things.
I dabbed water\alcohol mix onto small paper towel and wiped the foam in areas paper where paper was still a tiny bit visible. What I found interesting is the foam smoothed over in area's I did that. So I did the area's where air flow or maybe "lamination" might be used and it is really smooth. Thanks for tip!
That's great info! Smooth surface will definitely help when laminating, which I do a lot in my parkjet designs.
Awesome. This is by far the best technique I've seen. Thanks.
I think so too. I tried a lot of different ways, and this works the best. And you can re-use the paper, since the fibers do not deteriorate from the alcohol. It's amazing what great shape the paper is in after it dries!
The paper acts like a second piece of foam. It's glued to the board, so it adds rigidity, and strength. However, the paper on the board is susceptible to moisture, so sealants or paint must be used so the paper over the board doesn't become inadvertently soaked when landing in wet grass, flying in humid weather, ect.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you
Thanks. I'll start posting videos on a more consistent basis once I have all my PDF build instructions done and my e-book re-edited. Wont be too long.
The Adams foamboard today is somehow different. I found that using denatured alcohol instead of rubbing alcohol works better. It takes a little longer to penetrate but the paper peels off like it did for you here in this video. Thanks for the tips on laminating.
I'll have to give the denatured a shot. I have a can. I'm going to be uploading some new dollar tree foam videos soon. Also more flying, tech and overall fun videos coming.
Redibord from the dollar tree, the paper peels off without any need to wet it. I only remove the paper for areas I glue. The other areas I leave the paper on and coat with oil based minwax poly and use regular spray paint instead of tape for color.
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Just did this. What a great tip!
If you let the paper dry, it dries back to original form, and you can re-use it for other things. Something about the alcohol doesn't deteriorate the paper like plain water does.
I just tried this on the I think ross brand foam board from walmart, and sadly it does not seen to work on it, they must use a different adhesive. But thanks for the tip, I will just have to get the dollar tree stuff!
😮 omg I can't believe I just scrubbed that entire board with hot water
VERY helpful video. Best tips I've seen so far for working with this stuff.
I build planes out of dollartree foamboard, and I also leave the paper on. You can see videos on this method on Flitetest and also experimental airlines on youtube. It makes the planes very strong and durable. The 2 most popular ways of making the planes waterproof, are sealing with boxing tape or minwax polyurethane, I build planes using both methods with very good results.
sweet and simple. no repeats of any kind. love it :)
dollar tree foamcore. .. I believe it's made by Adams... recently changed the adhesive on their product.
I purchased about 10 sheets, cut out all my parts, went to peel them...they all tore.
so, there may be some lingering old stock of the white that still peels, but the new stuff tears.
also, I've heard the black foamcore will peels
There is no adhesive on the Adams foam board. It is applied with pressure only during the manufacture.
Peels right off for me also. No wetting needed.
Thanks for the video. Getting back into modeling (1/35th scale) and looking at building some homes, etc. out of this stuff.
Great foam for any hobby! Thank you for watching and commenting!
Great channel, and great tips, Thank you for your effort!
Of late...I've found you dont even need to spay the paper with anything...it now just pulls right off...takes a bit more pressure than when sprayed...but still comes off easily now...
you just saved me a SHITLOAD of time. THANK YOU !!!!
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Nice demo...Very helpful thank you..
Will isopropyl alcohol damage a poster to remove dried bubbles?
I've discovered bubbles appear when mounting a poster when using SPRAY adhesive for multiple reasons but rather instead using foam & poster board adhesive with an applicator from said adhesive bottle is MUCH more efficient.
Any adhesive spray is trickier because people complaining about yellowy or brown colored spray have resulted in the sprays now being clear or white &
preventing user from seeing how much is being applied resulting in over saturation resulting in bubbles & creases- Bad deal.
Thank you.
Works great. Thanks.
worked like a charm, thanks
Lots of people think you need something to remove the paper... It peels right off, just go cross sheet corner to corner... Dry.
I have had some dollar tree foam that the paper wanted to rip. This works better!!!!!!
At some point Dollar Tree's Foam supplier changed the foam glue from something difficult to remove, to just being able to peel it off at a corner. To get the paper to stick better without removing it, Minwax non water base polyurethane works. Or peel the paper and laminate with packing tape.
+Greg ory I have the opposite effect. I tried polyurethane and the paper peeled off easier than the untreated area. For sure the water based will de-laminate the paper.
AWESOMEE .. have to love Dollar Tree
On the web site of Dollar Tree they only show Black Foam Board now 3/18/15
I love scratch build plane
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@@MetalAviation owh.. wow. This is so cool 👍
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WOW! That's great! Thank you for the tip.
Omg thank you!
15 dollars a sheet for depron its about £2.50 in the uk and its 1.25m x 0.8m
send to me thailand 16 pcs 2,5$ foam board. 15$ have totally big ower price any foam board maybe if have covered cold have good price.
Here in Australia both foam sheets r dear. Over $10 each
Just found out this video, and I looooove it. So happy I found it! Question for you. What do you use to cut the foam to make your plane. I’m looking for an option to cut it but I want it to be nicely cut on the edge. I checked your list of video and I couldn’t find it. Hope you can help.
I just use cheap plastic razor cutters from Harbor Freight. When I'm done building the plane, I sand all the edges, so the quality of cut doesn't matter, since I'm gonna sand every edge smooth anyway.
this guy just made me want to build some planes
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Yeah I like it no way no how is there an easier thanks mate!
Thank you, sir! And thanks to another persons comment, I am now saving the paper and using it for building material. I don't know why I didn't do this before!
I built a Fury 54 with dollar tree foam board, the paper peeled right off, no spraying no nothing just grab a corner and peeeeeeeel. Good info though!
Or you could just peel it off dry it peels right off here in 2021 and still costs $1. It's also vantages to leave the paper on in spots.
I gave it a go after reading this and it does come off a bit easier these days. Still like the the alcohol technique, but glad the rediboard peeps toned it down a bit.
Thank you. I have tried the heating method to soften the glue on the paper covering... WAY too much work.
Thanks for watching the video! Glad it helped!
i bought 5 sheets of this foam and i just peel the paper off...very easy..without water or alcohol
well i finally found a use for doller tree
Two years back I bought boxes of this stuff. I used the pvc method. Peel edges and roll the pipe and pulls it off. Now I'm not sure if they changed the paper but I can't even get an edge up the paper just rips.. Anyone else notice a difference? I'm definitely going to try this when I get home!!
I've never been able to tear it off cleanly. Hope my method works. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Good vid, shared it.
I can only wish it was that cheap in the UK! Heh, no, I've never used Depron yet.
Thank you that was very halpful thank you very much
You are so very welcome and thank you for watching my video. I'm overwhelmed and humbled at how many people have watched this video and have been helped by it. I had to step away for a long while to attend to another business I had. I was shocked to see this video get so many views. I'll be back to making Metal Aviation videos OCT 2020. I'm so excited and hope I can meet more great people!
Good idea thanks
I have a bunch of friends at work that have made planes out of these dollar tree foam sheets. They do not however take the paper off? Can I ask what the motivation of doing so is?
Great tip thanks alot
You are welcome and thank you for watching my video! I'm glad it helped you!
what is the advantage of removing the paper? Will glues adhere better with the paper removed, and will the foam accept paint better?...thanks
I remove to make textures on the foam, like when im crafting walls or roofs i can make bricks and wood textures
I laminate 2 sheets together and don't trust the paper to adhere as good as foam to foam. Also, when I paint with paper on the paper start to delaminate. In the end I prefer the bare foam.
The if you keep the paper on then you won't have to double up on the foam board
Thanks for the Great video ! My question is, Why wouldn’t we keep the paper on? What is the advantage or disadvantage when building my flitetest airplane? Thanks
I laminate 2 pieces together to get 9mm thickness for my designs. . I don't trust laminating with the paper on. There may be no advantage when building Flite Test, since their designs are for paper covered readyboard.
I like removing the paper because it's easier to bend without kinking. I use a hairdryer.
how do you join 2 sheets together if you wan/need a longer piece without using a doubler. i dont need/want a 9mm sheet. toung and grove type joint like used on most balsa kits, or cut on a diaginal? i need a 3 foot piece for a wing.
+Doom Racing Use "Gorilla Glue," the water-activated kind.
quck question why dose it look like hes on a green screen
Damien's Armoury Cuz he is?
Yes sir! Green screen. My garage is okay, but not as bad ass as that pic behind me!
You kick ass!!
Do you use 2 sheets or 3?. I thought dollar tree foam is 3mm thick. What glue do you use?
good advice
Thank you!
$10.00 Au in Australia per sheet
A0 size from picture framing shop. 3mm or 6mm for $10. Better than office works
Eres mi heroe, gracis.
Muchas gracias! ¡Y gracias por ver mi video!
I found out that Walmart has same foam sheets for like 89 cents ))
Then you have to go to Walmart and Walmart sucks. Terrible company.
Hahaha! I love Walmart! But I've never seen this foam board there. I'm going to look closer next time I'm there. Thanks for the comments and the tip!
Oh, I ask because I'm interested in making my first plane and I just want to understand the process.
i do have a small question can you hot knife or hotwire foamcore board or will the wire NOT burn through the paper??? i keep the paper on on the smaller planes like the Spitfire and Red Barons so forth im new to the plane building ball game sorry for the LD question
+Chad Brailer I cut this stuff with a 100watt laser cutter all the time with the paper attached, but I could imagine that a wire cutter would have a hard time getting through the paper without being hot enough to cause it to catch fire. I have to have a compressor shooting down at 30psi to prevent the paper from flaming. Also you will note there will be a burn back of the foam from the paper cut line edge. It will dip back about 2-3mm from the paper inward.
@@Tuffenough4u 100W, i no believe, you use someone factory laser ? normal persons no have money buy 100W laser, cost 200-700 000$ only chinese hobby laser 40-60W can buy
Then denatured alcohol (cheaper) will also do the same
Where can I get it cheaper? The cans at the store are more than rubbing alcohol? Let me know so I can give it a try!
How do you prevent the foam from warping?
I buy by the box from Dollar Tree and leave the sheets in the box until I use them. Once the paper is off, I laminate 2 sheet together to make them stronger. The structural design of the plane makes it so the foam cannot warp.
WHAT BRAND OF SPRAY ADHESIVE DO YOU USE TO LAMINATE 2 SHEET? 3M?
+Pete Jansen That's what I use... works great .. apply to both parts and let set for 30 or so seconds , then stick together, BUT you better have it lined up this way perfectly cause you will not be able to remove without damage
i need foam board 5mm to thailand, were can orden, no have visa, credit only debit. thailand no have anywere insulation foam orhobby 5mm foam board anywere. i no has found any shop. i need build some plane but no have foam board.
I do not know... :( Do a search on TH-cam for foam planes, I recently have watched many videos from India where they are building awesome foam planes. Maybe one of those TH-camrs can help you if you comment.
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It seems to be a green screen Effect!
Thanks! And yes, sadly this is a green screen. My garage is cool, but not as kick ass as the pic behind me!
Normal alcohol ?
Isopropyl Alcohol 70%
I find it helps get the job done faster. it is called the chemical to remove the paper?
Por favor puedes decirnos la composición química del removedor del papel, si puedes hazlo por escrito con sus respectivos porcentajes, gracias.
Buanas Daniel, no se si te acuerdas de mi, soy de república dominicana. Lo he estado haciendo con agua, dejando amanecer el foam board en agua. Si pudiera encontrar algún químico, nos facilitaría mucho el trabajo. Saludos
Hola compañero, si me acuerdo de ti, claro yo también utilizo agua, pero el video que compartiste sugiere un preparado que facilita en forma rápida la separación del papel del foam
Hola compañero, si me acuerdo de ti, claro yo también utilizo agua, pero el video que compartiste sugiere un preparado que facilita en forma rápida la separación del papel del foam
He leído en el foro de RCgrups donde con agua no muy caliente el proceso es mas rápido. Me gustaría el químico, así puedo hacer mis modelos mas rápido. Saludos
I think he sprayed too much on his hair
That would be peroxide not alcohol.
That would be peroxide not alcohol.
NUT UGHHH.....REALLY?
make an jet for me which is f117
How do you color this? Can acrylic paint with a paint brush be used ?
I use an air brush with acrylic alcohol 50/50 mix. So straight acrylic paint with brush should work fine.
@@MetalAviation thanks ! Also how long would you think the paint would last ? I’m planning on using the board as a hanging piece for art work so no harsh elements are at play since it’ll mostly be used indoors
@@tinaswisphers3433 I have an F-35 I made and painted black with the same acrylic/alcohol mix 7 years ago,, that I still fly today and have never repainted. I can't remember how many coats I put on, though. You could also clear coat it as a final coat.
hahaha. You had me at depron sucks lol.
RC planes right?
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umm there is a better way less effort if its dollar tree foam board ADAMS witch it is just peel it off no spraying at all no ripping of paper no residue or chemicals
+3xlicit E.A.R. Same here. No need for anything to get it off.
I have had to spray water on dollar store stuff. But you let it dry a day before you peel it, then it's the same as the dollar tree stuff.
He says Depron is way to light which it isn't he only says this because depron costs a lot that why he doesn't like it
who have idiot and pay more money if same board can buy cheapen, idiot buy expensive if no need anythink better foam board, have same ,can use build plane. no need be expensive and ower price depron.
Depron sucks ballz. Flimsy crap only good for slow flying baby planes. I fly planes, not kites.
i leave the paper on
Dollar tree do not ship outside the u.s
Bummer....
Y don't u just peel the paper off -_-
Straight up peeling has never worked for me. always tears and sticks. If peeling works, that's great! Peel away!
Dollar Tree Foam board is NOT 9mm it is only 4.5 mm including both paper sides!!
Sotm 4.5+4.5=9mm
@@AnonymousSecon normal plane plan usesw 5mm foam board. only wing need 50mm if hot wire cut airfoil diy at home.
Yes sir. You were listening in class! Thank you!
I don't make normal planes. I make awesome planes.
interesting technique that doesn't work
lol. Doesn't work, yet it's done in real time in front of your eyes. You're funny, sir!
Or u could just peel it
Green screen! Lol
Zak Valladian Same everytime I see the green hue arround the person
Peels right off for me
"What about that is metal?"
My hair
Walmart 88 cents per sheet
send me to thailand 20 sheet. thailand no have anywere foam board.
Man, I missed the boat on this one. I go to Walmart a lot and have not seen it. I'll be looking next time! Thanks for the tip and comment!
Brake cleaner would probably do it.
Unless it eats the foam
Pork Dude this destroys the foam.
actually there is a easier way
moar videos dude
I build lots of planes from foam board, Adams. And the paper peels off with just grabbing a corner. But If you wanna make a video about complexity, good job... I guess.... :(
later!✌
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@@MetalAviation :)