Sugar Ray Robinson was a superb boxer and a wonderful ambassador for his sport. A very talented man, who could also dance as well as act. He was a real gentleman. He is sadly missed.
@@rasulsamad5860 During the latter part of his boxing career, and after he retired, Sugar Ray Robinson notched up 20 TV/film appearances. Most, if not all were ‘cameo’ parts.
Ray Robinson was a great fighter. As several of the previous comments have mentioned, he was regarded as the best pound for pound fighter of his day. His battles in the ring against the Raging Bull, Jake LaMotta were almost legendary.
Sugar Ray Robinson is regarded by boxing historians--at least every one I've encountered--as THE greatest fighter of all time. Anyone who has seriously looked at his record would have trouble coming up with anyone who was better.
Sdk ElMaruecan When boxing was important, certainly the heavyweight championship of the world was the most important individual title in sports, but that didn't make the heavyweight champion more skillful than the champions of lighter weight categories. Ray Robinson, at his peak, had a pro record of 128-1-2 and had a 91-fight undefeated streak. There is virtually no film of Robinson as a welterweight when he was absolutely unbeatable. As a middleweight, Robinson was a notch less skillful than he was as a welterweight--yet he's still generally considered the greatest middleweight of all time. There are a lot of boxing historians who don't consider Ali the greatest heavyweight ever, never mind the greatest fighter ever.
Sdk ElMaruecan I understand your point. Indeed Ali was the best known fighter of all time, but solely for his ring exploits Ray Robinson is at the top. When boxing fans talk about the greatest pound-for-pound fighter they are usually referring to what goes on inside the ring and not beyond it.
+gcjerryusc For me, boxing became irrelevant when there became so many governing bodies that there were a proliferation of title holders in each weight class. Since then, while I uphold the right of anyone to make a living and risk their body and mind to make a living as a boxer, the necessarily violent nature of the sport becomes less and less appealing to me as I grow older. Jerry, the Floyd Mayweather - Conor McGregor fight occurred a few days before I posted this. Since you made some comments vis a vis boxing and UFC, I am wondering what opinions you had about the fight.
An indication of the high regard with which experts held Sugar Ray Leonard is that no one felt it disrespectful to bestow the same nickname on him as that given to Sugar Ray Robinson.
Hillsdale College, mentioned by Mr. Stewart, has a fascinating history. Founded by abolitionists in the 1840s, Hillsdale admitted black students from the very beginning and soon thereafter became the second college in the US to admit women. During WWI, the college refused an order from the Wilson administration to segregate its ROTC program, and in 1956 withdrew its football team from the Tangerine Bowl because Florida would not allow its black players to participate in the game.
@@accomplice55 ... You obviously have a view of the right that is quite inaccurate. Hillsdale College still holds true to the values stated above, and MANY more just like them. Do some reading. Educate yourself.
I grew up in los Angeles California and on Adams boulevard where I went to church i would see sugar ray Robinson on the corner at a news paper stand with this white gentleman every Sunday morning around 1974.
@@peternagy-im4be Been following boxing since 1965. Who's you're choice pally. By the way......Ali's idol was Ray Robinson. Muhammad even said he thought Ray was better. Go get a broom and sweep the floor. What prison did you say you are in?
@@joeblow7407 are you posting this from a state mental institution? The marvellous one was and is the greatest of all time. Now go get your shinebox son.
@@peternagy-im4be Hagler was great. Should have had a rematch with Leonard!!!! Joe Pesci also great.....Frank Vincent also.........Robinson the best technician.....Marvin a heavy hitter. Petrocelli Brothers were outstanding!!!! One 'L' in Marvelous....Return your Harvard degree!!!!!
One day prior, an American Airline DC-7 had a fatal mid-air collision over the Grand Canyon! The first commercial airline crash where more than 100 people perished.
If you notice, the liking went both ways. Dorothy first made a comment to him, then said something else to him when he was shaking the hand of Jack E. Leonard.
Even Muhammad Ali thought Sugar Ray was the greatest ever. The "pound-for-pound" comparison was invented to elevate him as the best boxer ever. He was also the first boxer to have an "entourage." He is arguably the top athlete of the 20th century.
the only one who beat sugar ray robinson in his first 128 professional fights was jake lamotta, who you may remember as played by robert deniro in "raging bull" - 1980. just for the record robinson beat lamotta 5 times, but they were close fights.
This is the second episode in a three week period to have a connection with middleweight boxers. That was one reason that Bennett thought at first that it might be Rocky Graziano. Pier Angeli one of the MG's on the June 17, 1956 broadcast, was a co-star in the movie about the life of Graziano that was released that year. Robinson's defeat of Graziano to successfully defend his middleweight title was the next to last fight in Graziano's career.
This is one of the longest times remaining in the show for the fourth segment. It was a full round and the challenger won because of ten "no" answers rather than because the segment ran out of time as happened frequently. They had this luxury of time even after Jack E. Leonard milked some extra camera time in correctly guessing the Sugar Ray Robinson.
No one who has left a comment seems to have picked up on a sly and somewhat serious joke by Arlene Francis asking Sugar Ray a question. “Are you now or have you ever been a member of the c ...?” As in communist party, which was a clear reference to Joe McCarthy and the House on Un-American Activities investigation.
It was a question endlessly repeated, both seriously and in jest. Sen. McCarthy, who should be regarded as a hero, never falsely accused a single person of membership in the Communist Party. Zero.
Wow, over 2000 views and not one comment so I'll insert one. Sugar Ray had nearly 200 professional fights over a 25 year career which is almost unheard of. In spite of earning over $4 million boxing (a huge amount for that time) he was broke by the time his career was over. He was a very popular fighter and considered one of the greatest "pound for pound" fighters of all time, although it was learned later that he was not so great of a husband or father. Oh well, I guess you can't have everything.
He made that much, but never blew that much. Taxes, manger's cut, agent's cut,. promoter's huge cut, sycophant's, mortgages......... All in all he still probably blew 75 or 80 mil.
@Jim Stark Robinson was one of the few fighters who did not pay ball with the mob or dictatorial ruling bodies of boxing. Whatever criticisms may be leveled against Surgar Ray, corruption and cowardliness are not among them.
I'd put Groucho Marx in the category of an annoying panelist as well. Loved him as an actor and he's a very funny man, but just gets way too carried away on the panel and tries to take over the whole show.
Better off not blindfolding with Judge, and Daly did it again for Barber, the answer was" NO.(least for a few months) Yet again, still not enough time for the last one?
Jack E. Leonard is easily one of the most irritating panelists, ever. Only Arlene could find a way to be kind. He's a schmo who thinks he's funny, with some type of gangsta talk and cheese comedy....except it's not comedy. He's soooo annoying.
Jack Leonard is so annoying. He thinks he's funnier than he really is, and is too ham fisted. He has absolutely no sense of comedic timing and his "jokes" are poor. Does anyone really find this guy funny? At all?
I'm only into 1956, and this is still a great game show, and John's a good host, but he still ruins the entire show by flipping over those cards all the time!! they may as not even HAVE a game show; there's no purpose to it. They just usually automatically win anyway
Judge Seymour Robinowitz died Nov 7, 2006 (a little more than 50 years after this show). 1912-2006. So he was 44 when this show aired. Arthur Miller remained married to Marilyn Monroe for five years.
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Sugar Ray Robinson was a superb boxer and a wonderful ambassador for his sport. A very talented man, who could also dance as well as act. He was a real gentleman. He is sadly missed.
Act? What movie was he in
@@rasulsamad5860 During the latter part of his boxing career, and after he retired, Sugar Ray Robinson notched up 20 TV/film appearances. Most, if not all were ‘cameo’ parts.
He came from a family of dancers. That helped create his technique in boxing.
Yep, only Ali could match him.
Ray Robinson was a great fighter. As several of the previous comments have mentioned, he was regarded as the best pound for pound fighter of his day. His battles in the ring against the Raging Bull, Jake LaMotta were almost legendary.
Only "almost"?
You are right. They are legendary.@@emmgeevideo
Sugar Ray Robinson is regarded by boxing historians--at least every one I've encountered--as THE greatest fighter of all time. Anyone who has seriously looked at his record would have trouble coming up with anyone who was better.
Sdk ElMaruecan When boxing was important, certainly the heavyweight championship of the world was the most important individual title in sports, but that didn't make the heavyweight champion more skillful than the champions of lighter weight categories. Ray Robinson, at his peak, had a pro record of 128-1-2 and had a 91-fight undefeated streak. There is virtually no film of Robinson as a welterweight when he was absolutely unbeatable. As a middleweight, Robinson was a notch less skillful than he was as a welterweight--yet he's still generally considered the greatest middleweight of all time. There are a lot of boxing historians who don't consider Ali the greatest heavyweight ever, never mind the greatest fighter ever.
Sdk ElMaruecan I understand your point. Indeed Ali was the best known fighter of all time, but solely for his ring exploits Ray Robinson is at the top. When boxing fans talk about the greatest pound-for-pound fighter they are usually referring to what goes on inside the ring and not beyond it.
+gcjerryusc
For me, boxing became irrelevant when there became so many governing bodies that there were a proliferation of title holders in each weight class.
Since then, while I uphold the right of anyone to make a living and risk their body and mind to make a living as a boxer, the necessarily violent nature of the sport becomes less and less appealing to me as I grow older.
Jerry, the Floyd Mayweather - Conor McGregor fight occurred a few days before I posted this. Since you made some comments vis a vis boxing and UFC, I am wondering what opinions you had about the fight.
An indication of the high regard with which experts held Sugar Ray Leonard is that no one felt it disrespectful to bestow the same nickname on him as that given to Sugar Ray Robinson.
What about willie pep?
I love when Dorothy has a moment of recognition and gives a gasp; she did the same when she realized the contestant ran a nudist colony!
Hillsdale College, mentioned by Mr. Stewart, has a fascinating history. Founded by abolitionists in the 1840s, Hillsdale admitted black students from the very beginning and soon thereafter became the second college in the US to admit women. During WWI, the college refused an order from the Wilson administration to segregate its ROTC program, and in 1956 withdrew its football team from the Tangerine Bowl because Florida would not allow its black players to participate in the game.
Interesting, because it's super rightwing today.
@@accomplice55 ... You obviously have a view of the right that is quite inaccurate. Hillsdale College still holds true to the values stated above, and MANY more just like them. Do some reading. Educate yourself.
@@accomplice55 Wrong.
@@chutneysmith6469: I so love a thoughtful, well-reasoned rebuttal!
@@Tre404: I choose experience over reading.
Boxers that time had such finece and class
Like Mike Tyson?? The epitome of class..
@@cadaverdog1424 Mike Tyson wasn't born until 1966, so he was hardly a boxer of the time referred to by @Patriot.
@@cadaverdog1424 Tyson back in the day was a low class piece of excrement.
@@peternagy-im4be jeez what the hell did Mike do too make you comment that
finesse?
Sugar Ray Robinson was having a great time!
What an enjoyable show!
I got a chuckle when I read the original broadcast date…… it was the day before my 2nd birthday.
Whoever did Arlene's hair here deserves some sort of prize
And her dress . . . she looks terrific!
M Monroe style dress and to some extent hair do. Very much the 1950s.
What a smiling assassin.
Greatest fighter ever. No weakness. Just the complete boxing machine.
Sugar Ray Robinson. P4P, number one.
The judge was so handsome!
I grew up in los Angeles California and on Adams boulevard where I went to church i would see sugar ray Robinson on the corner at a news paper stand with this white gentleman every Sunday morning around 1974.
Sugar Ray Robinson great Middleweight champion
The greatest boxer of all....Ray Robinson!!!!!!
Not quite
@@peternagy-im4be Been following boxing since 1965. Who's you're choice pally. By the way......Ali's idol was Ray Robinson. Muhammad even said he thought Ray was better. Go get a broom and sweep the floor. What prison did you say you are in?
@@joeblow7407 are you posting this from a state mental institution? The marvellous one was and is the greatest of all time. Now go get your shinebox son.
@@peternagy-im4be Hagler was great. Should have had a rematch with Leonard!!!! Joe Pesci also great.....Frank Vincent also.........Robinson the best technician.....Marvin a heavy hitter. Petrocelli Brothers were outstanding!!!! One 'L' in Marvelous....Return your Harvard degree!!!!!
Jack E Leonard is a real hoot, this is the second show I've watched with him and he's genuinely funny, wish he'd have been a regular panelist
He was another Victor Borge. An unfunny jerk.
John certainly gave away the barber with all his comments regarding how she could or could not provide service to Jack Leonard.
and that was the fun of it!😂
I loved how Dorothy flicked her hair after Robinson leaned down to speak to her.
Judge Seymour Rabinowitz, the first contestant, married Arthur Miller and Marilyn Monroe on June 29, 1956. Just two days before the show!
That would be polygamy.
Sugar Ray Robinson, Wow, nice.
Robinson was 36 at the time (1957) this show was made.
@@timothyhughes1904 thanks brudda.
Sugar Ray is a handsome guy...just saying!
@Donald Duck Without a doubt.
@@timothyhughes1904 he was too good, to lose his looks!
Yesss and his smile is just ughhhhh😩.
sure is
John practically told everyone the second guest was a barber, during the Jack Leonard segment!
Like they say, Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest fighter ever P4P.
Well that's most unfortunate, but that isn't what Mr. Robinson is judged for.
The air date of this episode was the same as my parents wedding day
One day prior, an American Airline DC-7 had a fatal mid-air collision over the Grand Canyon! The first commercial airline crash where more than 100 people perished.
Nobody mentioned the real name, Walker Smith.
I love that Jack embraces his baldness. Using it as comedy fodder. He’s a funny guy. 🤓
Funny how Ben? I mean it may be me i might be a little screwed up here but how is he funny?
@@peternagy-im4beOver 40 years he was enjoyed. By millions of people!😊
Not like Daly with a toupee 😮
SRR sure seem to like talking to Dorothy Kilgallen.
Can't say I blame him!
If you notice, the liking went both ways. Dorothy first made a comment to him, then said something else to him when he was shaking the hand of Jack E. Leonard.
Funny how old black and white TV transforms the suntanned John and (especially) Bennett into two Angels with Dirty Faces.
Hillsdale College is doing very important work to this day.
yes very important propaganda
@@ricknelmsVery impolite 😮
@@robertjean5782 Sometimes the truth is
came out for Sugar this show also sweet as sugar
Dorothy was thrilled to meet Ray.
Even Muhammad Ali thought Sugar Ray was the greatest ever. The "pound-for-pound" comparison was invented to elevate him as the best boxer ever. He was also the first boxer to have an "entourage." He is arguably the top athlete of the 20th century.
Thank you :)
Arlene's dress is stunning.
The panel was on fire.
the only one who beat sugar ray robinson in his first 128 professional fights was jake lamotta, who you may remember as played by robert deniro in "raging bull" - 1980. just for the record robinson beat lamotta 5 times, but they were close fights.
Robinson Knocked out Lamotta to win the middleweight crown. In 5 fights Jake won only 1 fight and that by decison.
This is the second episode in a three week period to have a connection with middleweight boxers. That was one reason that Bennett thought at first that it might be Rocky Graziano. Pier Angeli one of the MG's on the June 17, 1956 broadcast, was a co-star in the movie about the life of Graziano that was released that year. Robinson's defeat of Graziano to successfully defend his middleweight title was the next to last fight in Graziano's career.
"Flip all the cards!"
This is one of the longest times remaining in the show for the fourth segment. It was a full round and the challenger won because of ten "no" answers rather than because the segment ran out of time as happened frequently. They had this luxury of time even after Jack E. Leonard milked some extra camera time in correctly guessing the Sugar Ray Robinson.
Leonard is as bad a panelist as Victor Borge! what's with these corny "comedians" from the 50's? They're not very funny.
No one who has left a comment seems to have picked up on a sly and somewhat serious joke by Arlene Francis asking Sugar Ray a question.
“Are you now or have you ever been a member of the c ...?”
As in communist party, which was a clear reference to Joe McCarthy and the House on Un-American Activities investigation.
I thought it was a pretty funny comment- wonder if there was something in the news that week.
It was a question endlessly repeated, both seriously and in jest. Sen. McCarthy, who should be regarded as a hero, never falsely accused a single person of membership in the Communist Party. Zero.
@@Arthur_McGowan a hero?
Sugar Ray the GOAT
Jack Leonard says he's just there to fill time. No truer words has he spoken.
He couldn't even do that very well.
He sure guessed Sugar Ray Robinson and he is an amusing comic.
It's nice Muhammad Ali (🇺🇲) and Sugar Ray Robinson (🇺🇲) played this game
9:00 The smile on her face when she says "seaman".
Wow, over 2000 views and not one comment so I'll insert one. Sugar Ray had nearly 200 professional fights over a 25 year career which is almost unheard of. In spite of earning over $4 million boxing (a huge amount for that time) he was broke by the time his career was over. He was a very popular fighter and considered one of the greatest "pound for pound" fighters of all time, although it was learned later that he was not so great of a husband or father. Oh well, I guess you can't have everything.
gcjerryusc
Yeah, I'm thinking Tyson earned more than $300 million only to lose it all.
He made that much, but never blew that much. Taxes, manger's cut, agent's cut,. promoter's huge cut, sycophant's, mortgages......... All in all he still probably blew 75 or 80 mil.
used to see Sugar Ray driving his purple Cadillac convertible around town with the top down. Quite a handsome guy. Charles baris
@Jim Stark Robinson was one of the few fighters who did not pay ball with the mob or dictatorial ruling bodies of boxing. Whatever criticisms may be leveled against Surgar Ray, corruption and cowardliness are not among them.
Sugar Ray died broke at age 69. What a shame.
Hands like baseball gloves. Wow
Jack E. Leonard is the least interesting and least amusing panelist on What's my Line? Maybe his sense of humor just doesn't appeal to me.
Agreed. Up there with Hal Block. Abe Burrows is another one. Not a fan of them on the panel either.
I completely agree!
I'd put Groucho Marx in the category of an annoying panelist as well. Loved him as an actor and he's a very funny man, but just gets way too carried away on the panel and tries to take over the whole show.
@@lilybean835 Hal Block was brought onto WML to liven it up because previously it became a little slow and bland. He was a hoot. A riot.
Exactly 😊
Jack: Do you touch them? (sounds like 'toss')
Judge: Do I...?
Jack: TOUCH them! T-O-U-C-H-L-C!! :) 6:00
Johan Bengtsson I think he said,
"TOUCH them....T-O-U-C-H-L-E-S"
.....that's what I heard anyway, lol.
Kayla B You're right. He spoke so fast. :)
10:04 John Daly gave it away. The final contestant could have passed for Bennett Cerf's brother.
Arlene was flustered by Arthur Miller.
😂❤
You never got me down Ray.
Jack E. Leonard could do well to be more silent.
MY STEWART LOOKS LIKE A SHORT BENNETT CERF!
Just say no... To Jack E. Leonard
4:25 "why did I marry Martin Gabel?"
Why is Arlene not sitting next to Bennett?
Anne Roy She didn't like the kiss in last week's show
They seem to flip positions from time to time
@@LarsRyeJeppesen I agree, she did not look pleased.
Not true, they lived next to each other, and regularly got together 😊
I thought he looks in his 60’s. What a poor judge I am
Better off not blindfolding with Judge, and Daly did it again for Barber, the answer was" NO.(least for a few months) Yet again, still not enough time for the last one?
Jack Leonard didn't pay attention to anything
Except for the attractive women.
Egghead marries beauty.
Jack E. Leonard is easily one of the most irritating panelists, ever. Only Arlene could find a way to be kind. He's a schmo who thinks he's funny, with some type of gangsta talk and cheese comedy....except it's not comedy. He's soooo annoying.
Another Victor Borge. An irrelevant irritating mor*n
Says you 😅
@@robertjean5782 Yes.
I don't get Jack's humor.
Not difficult because he's a jerk
You're 70 years too late😅
Jack Leonard is so annoying. He thinks he's funnier than he really is, and is too ham fisted. He has absolutely no sense of comedic timing and his "jokes" are poor. Does anyone really find this guy funny? At all?
Not at all. Annoying.
He's about as funny as a cancer diagnosis
He was enjoyed by millions of people 40 years straight 😊
@@robertjean5782 It takes all kinds.
I'm only into 1956, and this is still a great game show, and John's a good host, but he still ruins the entire show by flipping over those cards all the time!! they may as not even HAVE a game show; there's no purpose to it. They just usually automatically win anyway
The purpose is to have fun.
@@accomplice55Exactly 😊
Seaman or semen?
Judge Seymour Robinowitz died Nov 7, 2006 (a little more than 50 years after this show). 1912-2006. So he was 44 when this show aired. Arthur Miller remained married to Marilyn Monroe for five years.