For more can sauce we also got the setups that you get from doing MP HP Target combo can: - Double can setup by doing meaty sHK sMP Can 2 into a second strike ,throw , shimmy where you can also still do smp DI on the second can - Meaty sHK sMP cMP teleport to bait mashed and DP’s
Great advice especially on neutral. Forcing myself to stand closer and hit that medium punch. Working well. On the lower ranks you start chewing them up in the neutral then they respond by walking to the corner and standing far away. They start playing with respect when they realize kim isn't just going to kill herself with unsafe specials. That and just going on straight offense while playing no neutral. A lot of diamond players are getting by just on offensive mix-up and pressure.
I stopped the video halfway through and got to playing in order to implement the steps and it helped out so much. I was especially guilty of playing at the wrong ranges and having literally no sauce 😭Will binge the rest soon!
I've seen Jaccy do a lot of slide after target combo because you can do dash -> sprint cancel -> crouch MK which hits meaty and can combo into target combo after. It seems like this is good to mix in, instead of always doing sprint kick after target combo
This is what I need. I have a foggy, taped together Kim that I'm kinda playing by ear and doing what has worked so far without any real knowledge or confidence in how legit or air tight it is. Basically just praying that they don't know something that I don't know either.
Hrm... Man have I been struggling. They just reset the ranks and are on Phase 8 of Master League. I was stuck around 1580 to 1650 MR and couldnt figure out what I was doing wrong. I play every day and always end the Phase in the 1800s or around there. I followed step one after watching a replay and seeing myself do exactly what you said. I go across the screen and wait... WHY? Now I get close and pressure with st.Mk waiting for either a swing in return or a jump. I brought my rank up to 1774 MR currently I sit as 223rd Legend (for now until they get the MR up in the 2000s). I have a 13 game win streak going. Thanks for the tips dude! It filled in the gaps. Great video.
My favorite thing to do is whiff punish someone trying to AA the 236K, P when I don't follow it up. HP xx 214P will clip people throwing out and big normal.
I appreciate the video, but I'm honestly not sure what to make of your advice about playing neutral. You admit that Kimberly doesn't really have the best buttons for playing the whiff punish game, but then recommend trying to whiff punish anyway, with the advice basically boiling down to "try hitting them out of their buttons instead of them hitting you out of your buttons". But if both players are just pressing buttons in neutral, hoping to catch the other's recovery, those disjointed hitboxes will require pretty precise and opponent-specific positioning to make a difference. Otherwise, we're just flipping coins. That's not even taking into account that by standing closer to someone like Dee Jay, I am subjecting myself to his teleport-like Drive Rush, or his jump-arc-altering shenanigans. At least if I get him to throw fireballs from a longer range, I can command normal slide or teleport in to punish it. Sure, these options are also punishable, but those still feel like calculated risks, instead of just walking into a blender.
Realistically that's what you gotta do. Instead of just guessing, though, you're using your walkspeed as a psudu-teleport- moves have startup and your opponent can't exactly pinpoint your position at all times. You use precise forward walking before counterpoking to throw their spacing off guard. Realistically counterpoking is just making reads on their neutral, which you could say is rps or gambling. You're playing the character with probably the worst or second worst neutral in the game. You gotta do what you gotta do, and slide / teleport doesn't work
Walking back and forth and trying pokes is trying to play Kim like it’s Ken or a shoto character, which is a really bad way to play Kim and she is specifically designed to be lackluster with this approach
Im platinum theres so much DI and i have trouble counter DI-ing because i get caught doing some dumb kick that wont allow me to counter. Like medium crouch kick why cant i couter off of medium crouch kick!
Quick question. Whats the difference between using dash vs run stop for Oki. Almost all her knock downs you can make it in time using both methods . Is there a disadvantage to this? I use pretty much all the time except off of throws which lose to jab but usually beats Level 3 supers unless they're frame perfect. Risk worth taking? I like doing it because it allows me to mix my overhead or plus frame lower flip. That and it just attracts people who mash od dp or wakeup supers on knock down. Modern players love mashing dp. Also i notice in high level play people drive rush on a knocked down opponent. Do you ever drive rush block? It seems like most high level play just take the mix on the drive rush or it rarely goes punished. Usually when i knock somebody down as soon as my opponent sees green its wakeup up od dp. Also when you delay buttons do you risk getting thrown (most likely from opponent delay teching) or do you delay tech yourself to cover all options? Sometime i do both, but stinks because i get the backwards throw out of the corner.
This is a question where you don't understand why people do the things they do. You generally runstop as a frame kill to get a meaty cr mk / run overhead mixup or don't use run. The reason why people use things other than dash is because it might be the only thing that leaves you close enough or jn the case of kim, she has some setups for meaty drive rush b hk / df mk. Check my tech vids, there's a bunch of framekills
@@Zykles Makes sense. I was just run stopping for bait and conditioning off of knock down. Still haven't incorporated frame kills in my game yet. I generally time meaties or use something like drive rush cr.mk that has a a big window, but can easily get blown up by DI. It isn't perfect though because some people can mash jab perfectly and catch you if your timing is off.
I'll be honest I use to Drive Rush crLP or crMK a lot but as you start to play against higher ranks players start react to it so know I switched up my playstyle if they make any move or rush in I just wait to MK and it's been working ever since 😂
For more can sauce we also got the setups that you get from doing MP HP Target combo can:
- Double can setup by doing meaty sHK sMP Can 2 into a second strike ,throw , shimmy where you can also still do smp DI on the second can
- Meaty sHK sMP cMP teleport to bait mashed and DP’s
Content like this on youtube is exacly what the Kim Army needs! Keep them coming!
I was guilty of standing in that deadzone
Guilty as charged
😂 Me too!!
Great advice especially on neutral. Forcing myself to stand closer and hit that medium punch.
Working well. On the lower ranks you start chewing them up in the neutral then they respond by walking to the corner and standing far away. They start playing with respect when they realize kim isn't just going to kill herself with unsafe specials.
That and just going on straight offense while playing no neutral. A lot of diamond players are getting by just on offensive mix-up and pressure.
I stopped the video halfway through and got to playing in order to implement the steps and it helped out so much. I was especially guilty of playing at the wrong ranges and having literally no sauce 😭Will binge the rest soon!
@@Zykles It's not much, but been staying at around 1540~ MR after applying a lot of the stuff in your videos! Thank you once again
congrats bro that's all u ♥️
I've seen Jaccy do a lot of slide after target combo because you can do dash -> sprint cancel -> crouch MK which hits meaty and can combo into target combo after. It seems like this is good to mix in, instead of always doing sprint kick after target combo
That's another good way to get em parrying too
Jaccy plays so ugly, she’s like the Noah of Japan.
This is what I need. I have a foggy, taped together Kim that I'm kinda playing by ear and doing what has worked so far without any real knowledge or confidence in how legit or air tight it is. Basically just praying that they don't know something that I don't know either.
Hrm... Man have I been struggling. They just reset the ranks and are on Phase 8 of Master League. I was stuck around 1580 to 1650 MR and couldnt figure out what I was doing wrong. I play every day and always end the Phase in the 1800s or around there. I followed step one after watching a replay and seeing myself do exactly what you said. I go across the screen and wait... WHY? Now I get close and pressure with st.Mk waiting for either a swing in return or a jump. I brought my rank up to 1774 MR currently I sit as 223rd Legend (for now until they get the MR up in the 2000s). I have a 13 game win streak going. Thanks for the tips dude! It filled in the gaps. Great video.
new kimberly rizz unlocked
i just learned some good frame traps too let’s fuggin go
Beginning a kim as full main
Thx for all ur tips, u make me win lot of time bro 😂
Just in time for the new season 🙏🏼🙏🏼 bout to donate all this MR 🔥🔥🔥
this vid specifically at u smh
@@Zyklesyea i feel called out LOL
The first 3 minutes of this video has changed my life.
My favorite thing to do is whiff punish someone trying to AA the 236K, P when I don't follow it up. HP xx 214P will clip people throwing out and big normal.
You're really making Lukes believe they can jump in on me with this.. when they can't lol.
how do I dislike a comment
@@Zykles by accepting the truth and facts 😎
yeh i defo fall into the category of no sauce with can setups im working on it im often scared of ex reversals i just gotta guess and risk more
me when that kick on OD run is my main gimmick tool on neutral lmao
I appreciate the video, but I'm honestly not sure what to make of your advice about playing neutral. You admit that Kimberly doesn't really have the best buttons for playing the whiff punish game, but then recommend trying to whiff punish anyway, with the advice basically boiling down to "try hitting them out of their buttons instead of them hitting you out of your buttons". But if both players are just pressing buttons in neutral, hoping to catch the other's recovery, those disjointed hitboxes will require pretty precise and opponent-specific positioning to make a difference. Otherwise, we're just flipping coins.
That's not even taking into account that by standing closer to someone like Dee Jay, I am subjecting myself to his teleport-like Drive Rush, or his jump-arc-altering shenanigans. At least if I get him to throw fireballs from a longer range, I can command normal slide or teleport in to punish it. Sure, these options are also punishable, but those still feel like calculated risks, instead of just walking into a blender.
Realistically that's what you gotta do. Instead of just guessing, though, you're using your walkspeed as a psudu-teleport- moves have startup and your opponent can't exactly pinpoint your position at all times. You use precise forward walking before counterpoking to throw their spacing off guard.
Realistically counterpoking is just making reads on their neutral, which you could say is rps or gambling. You're playing the character with probably the worst or second worst neutral in the game. You gotta do what you gotta do, and slide / teleport doesn't work
could you do a beginners guide for kim players new to SF? I have just learned how to do all of her moves consistently
10:45 Why Kim's cr.hp AA is a trade almost 50% of a time? Even on this footage.
Yeah my neutral needs help. Gonna try that step and see if I improve. Only at silver now
i'm part of the crayon eater army! 🖍
Walking back and forth and trying pokes is trying to play Kim like it’s Ken or a shoto character, which is a really bad way to play Kim and she is specifically designed to be lackluster with this approach
Welcome to high level Kim.
Im platinum theres so much DI and i have trouble counter DI-ing because i get caught doing some dumb kick that wont allow me to counter. Like medium crouch kick why cant i couter off of medium crouch kick!
my honest reaction to not going for kick or grab off run.. NO FEAR
my honest reaction to watching you die after their jump back somehow beats your kick
Whats some advice for M Kim players? 😅
learn motion inputs hehe
Quick question. Whats the difference between using dash vs run stop for Oki. Almost all her knock downs you can make it in time using both methods . Is there a disadvantage to this? I use pretty much all the time except off of throws which lose to jab but usually beats Level 3 supers unless they're frame perfect. Risk worth taking?
I like doing it because it allows me to mix my overhead or plus frame lower flip. That and it just attracts people who mash od dp or wakeup supers on knock down. Modern players love mashing dp.
Also i notice in high level play people drive rush on a knocked down opponent. Do you ever drive rush block? It seems like most high level play just take the mix on the drive rush or it rarely goes punished.
Usually when i knock somebody down as soon as my opponent sees green its wakeup up od dp.
Also when you delay buttons do you risk getting thrown (most likely from opponent delay teching) or do you delay tech yourself to cover all options? Sometime i do both, but stinks because i get the backwards throw out of the corner.
This is a question where you don't understand why people do the things they do. You generally runstop as a frame kill to get a meaty cr mk / run overhead mixup or don't use run. The reason why people use things other than dash is because it might be the only thing that leaves you close enough or jn the case of kim, she has some setups for meaty drive rush b hk / df mk.
Check my tech vids, there's a bunch of framekills
@@Zykles Makes sense. I was just run stopping for bait and conditioning off of knock down.
Still haven't incorporated frame kills in my game yet. I generally time meaties or use something like drive rush cr.mk that has a a big window, but can easily get blown up by DI. It isn't perfect though because some people can mash jab perfectly and catch you if your timing is off.
Thank you for this 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I'll be honest I use to Drive Rush crLP or crMK a lot but as you start to play against higher ranks players start react to it so know I switched up my playstyle if they make any move or rush in I just wait to MK and it's been working ever since 😂
That mod is drippy
Ok in the third Part you tell me what is Counterhit picking its very important in all fighting Games you must in your Opponents head 🤓
Guilty as charged of standing at wrong range. Also why do Kim's level 1 and 2 suck so bad
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