Star Trek: 10 Things You Didn’t Know About Vulcans
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The best explanation of the Vulcans I remember a friend saying, "Vulcans do have emotions but, unlike the rest of us, they do not let emotions have them. They are also perfectly capable of telling a lie, if it is logical to do so."
Never really believed that part. "Vulcans do not lie, but they do tend to exaggerate".
Valeris: "A lie?"
Spock: "An error."
I think the struggles so many of us have with our emotions has always made Vulcans intriguing. It really hit me when Tuvok said "Do not mistake composure for ease" as that is something I can really relate to
emotions usually surface when the subject in question finds it difficult or down right impossible to find a solution to a given problem
you want something, you're met with a negative, you get angry.... as simple as that.
BUT!, if you can piece apart the problem itself and find the root of the negative, even if it all sums up to "you're an idiot" regarding whomever is giving you the negative, then *having* that root helps you solve the problem itself, therefore, no anger.
if you want something, and you're met with a negative, circle around to find the root of that negative, and still obtain the something regardless of negative... if the person denying you that is not smart enough to anticipate you, THEIR loss!
when you know "who is guilty of what" as Garak would put it, you no longer get angry or emotional at anything.... you know exactly why things are, and how to deal with them.
@@bcn1gh7h4wkYour explanation seems to assume that emotions are always negative. A further assumption seems to be that the person feeling the emotions must be coveting something.
@@pike100 I'm talking about "emotions" as "behavior-inhibiting" emotions.
you can still be overwhelmed with inspiration and happiness, both _emotions,_
but neither of them would _prevent you from acting_
_anger_ is an emotion... anger _due to frustration_ is an inhibition to act.
you can still be angry due to frustration, but if you know why that frustration comes along, you would have anticipated that anger beforehand.
anger due to frustration (specifically) comes when you're unable to achieve something that you planned to achieve, and are met with a negation you didn't anticipate.
when that negation is (specifically) the behavior of *a person* and not *an unavoidable circumstance,* that person behaving in such a way intentionally for the sole purpose of pissing you off doesn't merit that show of anger.
therefore -> "you're an idiot"
.....people never consider the scenario that they'll be called out for being wrong, so, very few plan ahead for that.
just consider that, and problem solved.
As Spock turned human pointed out, Vulcans aren’t void of emotion, they have extremely STRONG emotions and contain them with years of mental training. Suddenly being human knocked down those walls, and made him snap at Sam Kirk over not clearing away his dirty dishes from lunch fast enough.
Would explain a lot why I’m fascinated with Vulcans. And having a great understanding to my autism.
same
To each their own. I am a Klingon-phile.
@@Awestefeld6612why not both? (Me AuDHD)😊
I have always identified with Spock, I never quite knew why. Perhaps it's unsurprising that I've only recently as an adult started realizing that I have most of the symptoms for autism
@@Awestefeld6612 Youuu liike STINKY girls! Ick!
I heard "Hormones are raging, synapses blazing" and my head echoed "My Pon Farr's gone to hell but how are you?" Thank you for that earworm 😸
I will say that as an autistic person who strongly identifies with Data (among others), he definitely has emotions prior to getting his emotion chip - maybe they're harder for him to interpret (a fairly common experience among ND people in general) and not expressed in the way many humans would recognise, but Ode to Spot is definitely full of love for his cat, he can appreciate art, and he cares about his friends.
As someone with Aspergers Syndrome, which is a form of high functioning autism, I can appreciate the Vulcans and their neurodivergence appealing to those of us with autism in its many forms
Apparently, in 2013 the term Asperger's is no longer being used. It's all just autism now, no matter where we fall on the spectrum
We live about 20 miles from Vulcan, Alberta. As an American, it is one of the coolest little towns I have ever visited in North America. Between the Spock memorials, the Trek Station, the Star Trek-themed murals on the buildings, and the Enterprise-shaped streetlights on the main street...Vulcan is a super fun town that is definitely worth a visit if you are visiting Banff or Calgary, especially if you are in the area in mid-June for Spock Days. Can't forget about Quark's consignment store! Great content--we enjoyed this, thanks!
Wow. I've been a Trekkie for 53 years and live in BC. I never ever knew about Vulcan, Alberta or I'd have been there yonks ago!! I fell in 😘 ve with Mr Spock at the age of 13 and it's been my longest (one-sided) relationship. Lol. Will definitely get to Vulcan at least once before I die
Temple Grandin, Kim Peek, Raymond in "Rain Man", and maybe even Sheldon Cooper. I have friends with varying degrees of autism from severe to mild. Audrey had severe, Though 40ish, she can't speak or even use a laptop to communicate, but she can dance; my boyfriend has A.S., drove a tractor trailer for many years, is better at mathematics than I am, but also a bit naive at times; and my friend Jean is in Naval Communications and ready to retire in a couple of years. She was more like Lt. Saavik1 when I first met her, but more like Cdr. Cdr. T'Pol now. T'Pol mentioned 2x-in 'Impulse' and 'Tge Forgotten'-that Vulcans do have emotions, but have to not show them, or they'll lose that control.
Ooohhh, new item for bucket list. Aim for June...of some future year
What! How did I not know about this town?! Dangit, we used to go to Canmore every year, and now we moved. Must. Go. Back!😁
@@gohawks3571 You must go! Vulcan is only a couple of hours from Canmore. Aim to go for Spock 🖖 Days in June!
Can I just say thank you for explaining the Autism/Vulcan thing? And in such a good and understanding way. Nearly made me cry when I heard you talking about it.
"On Vulcan the method is called Tal-Shia. It was considered a merciful form of execution in ancient times."
Most frequently missed Easter Egg...this is where the Romulan Tal Shiar gets its name!
Yay Alberta! Been to Vulcan many times!
Vulcans are my favorite species in Star Trek, that's why I was happy that T'Lyn became a crew of the Cerritos, I hope she would become a main character in Lower Decks.
I would love to see more of the history of Vulcans either through time travel or flashbacks. Ever since Spock said that Vulcan's history was brutal even by human standards I've been fascinated.
It could also give a glimpse into the seperation of the Vulcan and Romulan people which would make for a fantastic long Trek.
Thanks for the video and all the hard work you all put into them.
The Vulcan soul trilogy does give a lot of perspective into the time of the sundering
I heard that a real Vulcan would kill with that neck pinch, but because he was half human, it only knocked them out
One of the most recent story arcs in the Star Trek "comics" goes into some detail about Surak's early rise to power during the aftermath of Vulcan's last great war. Spock touches some weird artifact that transports him to that time to where he sees some of Surak's "methods" of conversion to pure logic to be less than stellar (Think Chairmen Mao's playbook..specifically towards indocturing children).
@@recoveringsoul755Spock felt that because he was half-human, he had to be more Vulcan than a full Vulcan, and as a result, he was the best or among the best at many things Vulcan. Being half-Vulcan, his physical strength was many times that of a human. He could easily kill if he wished. But the whole point of the nerve pinch was to knock someone out because it was illogical to kill unnecessarily. Remember that Vulcans celebrate IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combination). You don't celebrate life by extinguishing it unnecessarily.
@@littleredpony6868What is the soul trilogy?
Props to the town of Vulcan choosing the Connie-refit Enterprise A. While I Stan the Excelsior-class B, the A is without a doubt the most _Enterprise_ Enterprise.
The town council noticed lots of fans parking 1km outside of town and taking a photo in front of the road sign. One clever council member encouraged fans to move that 1 km further in to town and buy some merch.
So pleased you remembered Vulcan, AB! Lovely western-Canadian small town ❤
7:38 lots of people stopped by this road sign for a picture. Some smart fans on town council wondered if drivers could be persuaded to continue that 1 extra kilometre...and maybe buy some merch while in town!
I liked Spock experimenting with smiling and laughing since he was smiling in TOS pilot.
"Off to another Chapel"! HAHAHA!!!
Brilliant! Thanks for the vid TC Team!
Thank you so much for exploring the neurodiversity link here. I’ve seen ST commonly mentioned in ASD groups, but not the other way around. (This despite an ST:Disco Engineering Dept that clearly has the policy “Neurotypicals need not apply”!😂 Tig wasn’t exactly first!! ❤)
As a devoted fan of 5 decades and a late-diagnosed AuDHD, I literally choked up and cried when Disco retconned and divulged Spock’s Vulcan dyslexia. As I explained to my tween AuDHD son, “All our lives, so many of us have found meaning in the belief that we were like him, which provided some comfort in our isolation. Dyslexia is a neurodivergence. ST had just made CANON that *he* is one of *us*. They’re actually making a nod to our affinity and then made the kinship real!”
I had the privilege of meeting Mr. Nimoy once, and he was so gracious and clearly humbled and grateful for the huge degree of contribution he was able to help make to so many people through Spock, and somewhat awed that that legacy had continued. I wish he could have seen that it continues to this day, and that Spock continues to encourage and inspire a new generation of fans. 🖖❤
I think no.5 is a point well made, I was diagosed with Autism almost two years ago (I'm 38 now, though having learned of it in 2019 and finally making the connection & starting the diagnosis process), I've often felt a lot more like a Vulcan than a human, and emotions just get in the way of things, both my own and others', but the ability to look at things in a logical manner versus getting emotional about something that may not actually be worth the emotion, it's handy, and being socially inept (my own choice of words, cos it's true in my case!) means I can spend more time looking into things, learning about them and working on stuff, it's great to be ND... :D
(well, most of the time anyway!)
Live Long And Prosper 🖖
Indeed.
My late wife was Autistic. She was the most intelligent person I ever knew. She could spend time in research, like no others miss her.
I loved the way Spock handled the 3 witches in Cats Paw, completely un-fazed by them!
Vulcan was also the name of a hypothetical planet that many astronomers believed orbited the Sun between Mercury and the Sun. There is mention of it dating back to the 17th century with some even claiming that they had observed it with telescopes.
Speculation about a "tenth planet" (a "ninth planet" now, I guess) is a recurring thing. Every new generation has a new name for a new planet they think is out there.
Isn't there an asteroid belt, that could've been the remnants of a doomed planet?
There are people who believe that Earth's original Sun was actually Saturn. Look up Purple Dawn. It might explain the Saturn worship among some
Thanks Sean and Jack for the lovely discussion of autism and the Vulcans in this video and article where we identify a lot with the Vulcans and I love how much later Trek has played into that identification, especially Strange New Worlds.
I do have a couple of points to note though
1) Decent discussion on social interaction issues though in general communication is an issue of neurotypical and neurodivergent people not being able to understand each other, each having different communication styles.
2) Generally autistic people in UK and US prefer using Identity First Language (IFL) where we are 'autistic people' rather than 'people with autism' since autism is a part of us, it cannot be removed and there's a bit of a problematic history with autism being purposefully separated from the person to suggest it can be "cured", or even needs to be in the first place. That said, you would 'have' a diagnosis of Autistic Spectrum Disorder (ASD) because that is something given to you which describes you rather than directly you.
There is a Vulcan, Michigan. It is in the Upper Peninsula. near Iron Mountain.
66 year old fan since Star Trek first aired in 1966. Great video! I learned new things about Vulcan. 👍👍👍☺☺☺
Interesting bit of trivia about the Vulcan Nerve Pinch. Wolverine (of the X-Men) was once the recipient of the FSNP.
As a gray Ace person i always found it comforting that abstaining was an option.
Thanks for taking the time to add the part about Vulcans being similar to those of us who are Autistic. I certainly relate a lot to Spock and others like him. I also appreciate the part about how we’re definitely not cold and emotionless.
I wished to be a volcan in my teens, when my emotional disregulation was used as an excuse to bully me by my classmates and to not intervene by my teachers ("just don't react, they'll stop"). Then came enterprise with the info of vulcan emotions being stronger than human, and simply repressed and hidden.
Indeed, that was very well done fleshing out of the Vulcans and contextualising them more in autism.
I know people who try that BS, and it's the WORST method of conflict resolution EVER.
In part because it teaches people that it's GOOD to bully people who do things you don't like.
One thing that I had to think about after watching SNW is how Ponn Farr worked. In TOS, Vulcans would mate every 7 years or die, but in SNW, Spock and T'Pring were "mating" all the time, and Spock was two timing her with Nurse Chapel. Looks like I wasn't the only one to think about it 🤣
Vulcans CAN mate anytime they want to, it's just that every seven years they must because the constant suppression of all their emotions build up over time so this is the only way they can release all those tensions, mate or die. The only other way to release those tensions is meditation or to fight an opponent to the death.
(See McCoy's comment on it in Amok Time)
I read somewhere that originally they where going to have three ears . the left ear the right ear and the final front ear
Ack!
One of the things I heard years ago, (that seems to have been abandoned), was that much of the 'power' of Vulcans were in their hands. They apparently had some type of innate power that other species didn't have, which was why they could do a Vulcan neck pinch (which originally nobody else could at one time), mind meld, and why they don't shake hands. There was even an episode of Enterprise that said Vulcans don't use their hands to eat, which I always understood it because of that otherworldly power or sensitivity they had. Even the mating ritual from Search for Spock seemed to calm 'young' Spock by touching his fingers/hand.
if I recall they are touch telepaths so their hands are extremely sensitive which would make sense of all you've mentioned as well
Nice catch! Nimoy explained once that his initial pitch was an energy focused to his fingertips to knock out the nerves. I never realized that's why they don't shake hands...but it's brilliant!
Damn it. I´m so envious of Vulcanadians.
I have come to consider Spock to be a metaphor for human nature in its dual qualities of emotion and reason or logic. Especially appreciated the SNW episode Charades for its illustration of this distinction, as well as the importance of being true to who you are, appreciating both sides of one's nature, and the great strain of pretending to be something you are not, along with not accepting some thing that you are.
Yes. Quite an apt observation.
Well said!
Excellent video. I always enjoy looks at the early days of Trek.
As far as the Ponn Farr thing goes -- I always assumed that was a vestigal biological thing that at one time ensured the species' propagation but was no longer entirely necessary. if nothing else, it makes for an excellent excuse for hilarity to ensue.
My thought on Pon Farr, it's that it's more about a steadily growing neurochemical imbalance. 'cause here's the part of it that hints that it's not just "part of their race", Vulcans and Romulans are the same species. Romulans don't have that problem. this leads to the possibility that maybe the Vulcan "logic" CAUSES Pon Farr? Vulcans just treat it as normal, but is it... really?
@@marhawkman303Very interesting point (about the Romulans).
The pitch shown at 5:17, regarding Spock: “He cannot, however, mask his cat-like curiosity about everything of alien origin.”
This deserves further exploration.
Here, kitty.
As someone relocating to Alberta in the next few years, it is my new life ambition to become the mayor of Vulcan.
Spock played a great Waltz (Requiem for Methuselah).
Spock was also a poetry critic:
Three witches laughing maniacally and threatening the landing party.
Kirk: Spock. Comment?
Spock: Very bad poetry, Captain (Catspaw).
Really enjoyed this one, some of the items I really didn't know. Fascinating
So that’s why Spock doesn’t say “Live Long and Perspire”
😅
I liked that Spock seemed as autistic as I am. He didn't have to "mask" to be accepted by the crew of the NCC-1701.
The neck pinch was used long before Star Trek. Doc Savage used the procedure in the books that were written from 1933 onwards. I'd recommend reading these books as they are incredibly futuristic, with many examples of accurate predictions.
As someone who is on the autistic spectrum, I'd never thought of a similarity with Vulcans. However, I can certainly relate to it. The description that you gave of the Vulcans was an amazingly close description of my own character and behaviour.
I’d really like to see a Vulcan give a Cardassian a nerve pinch, given that they have those large neck ridges which I assume protect any arteries and nerve plexus’ that when impinged would cause loss of consciousness. Also, I’d like to see if Vulcans could mind meld with them given that on DS:9 the Vulcan female member of the Maquis had failed spectacularly when she attempted to mind meld with Gul Dukat…which Dukat attributed to Cardassian’s superior mental discipline…rather smugly I thought.
heh, Lower Decks did that, but not until after you asked. :D
Mind Melds don't work well in general with an unwilling target.
The Vulcan hand salute is the a symbol used by the Cohanim, who descend from First Temple Priests
I adore the relationship between Spock and Nurse Chapel in SNW. It’s absolutely pure and genuine. She’s absolutely beautiful, a total badass and Spock’s intellectual equal in the most human of ways.
The relationship between Spock and Christine is doomed. This makes me sad because I adore them as a couple.
@@leticiagarcia9025 ohhhh … no. Now I need a drink 😢😭☹️
seriously? Pure and genuine. Wow. What series are you watching. He's engaged and she has an emotional affair with him, not even bothering to consider personal boundaries. This ends up becoming a serious factor in his difficulties with T'Pring. And yes she's made out to be a superwoman who can solve just about any problem thrown at her. Meanwhile, Spock is no intellectual equal in this series. He's constantly beat out by Uhrua AND Chapel. He's been completely stunted in SNW and has been made into a hormonal bag of idiocy. A man who can't seem to figure out anything. Yeah it's a relationship for the times all right.
@@Patricia599woke police
So if she was ugly, youd ve against it?
Loved all this Vulcan background. For another “Things you didn’t know” episode …….there is a town in Scotland called Borgue.
As an autistic/ADHD person, vulcans feel very familiar
There is a Vulcan, Michigan USA and it's a small town.
5:43 Is that the NX-01 refit near Gene???
Yes it is. Hi edited this video, I have two Easter eggs that I put it each of my videos. A Horgh'an and the NX01 refit. Most people only see the Horgh'an so it's a nice surprise to see someone spot the refit 👍
Cant believe I was in Calgary, Alberta, and I didnt had a clue that the town of Vulcan existed. Canada, I'm going back to visit you! Very soon! *
"Spock's World" by Diane Duane is a marvelous history of Vulcan interspersed with a visit of the Enterprise to the planet to allow members of the crew to testify in favour of Vulcan remaining a part of the Federation after separatists get a planet-wide referendum asking the population to leave.
I bought that book from the science fiction book club back in the 80's. I still have it. It was one of my favorite books.
Diane Duane is an excellent writer in general. I need to get around to reading more of her Star Trek work...
@@keiyakins The Wounded Sky is also excellent. TNG used it for a first season episode.
There’s also a Vulcan in Michigans Upper Peninsula. It’s right next to Norway
My father, brother, and son are on the autism spectrum and love to watch the characters that are working to understand humanity like Spock, Data, The Doctor, and Seven. They are relatable as smart and kind people, but they still do not really fit in with the rest. Those are all wonderful characters.
One realization I've come to over the years, is that modern society's view of "normal".... is actually less than 25% of the population. Unless you use a strict view, then it's even less. Why? because the standard is set by highly social people. People who don't want to admit that being that social... is actually UNusual.
I won’t lie; I bawled my face off when Spock died in Star Trek II
I was too shocked....just wet eyed....saw it in the cinema .....but the funeral sequence was the worst....everytime I see it now, I think of my late parents' funerals. I hate to think what it does to Nimoy's family. 😢
Even my no emotions showed ever hubby cried in the theater.
Some of the early info mentioned I remember reading in the Book " The Making of Star Trek" in the early 70's. For anyone who wants some interesting reading about Vulcan should read the Book "Spock's World" I'm not sure if it's canon but I found it was a good read about the history of Vulcan.
Looks like I'm gonna have to dig it out and reread it😊
I remember reading several critics thought Leonard Nemoy was a bad actor because he didn't emote, even though that was his character trait.
I like the comparison to Autism . I'm the father of an Autistic young man .
I also live an hour and a half away from Vulcan . I've played hockey there as a child . And visited there with my kids to see the Star Trek attractions .
Enterprise corrects the discrepency about Ponn Farr by stating they are CONDITIONNED to copulate once every seven years. Not meaning they can't physically speaking just as T'Pol demonstrates throughout the series; jealousy, flirting, cheating, etc...
There is another place on Earth named after the God of Fire, the island of Vulcano in the Lipari archipelago between Italy and Sicily, one of those islands is also the famous Stromboli volcano.
Had Romulus not been so far away, Vulcan dissidents might as well have just had Nuclear Fusion propulsion but to reach the Romulus we know in a timely manner, a Warp Drive is more likeky, even at lower speeds like Warp 3 or 4.
Possibly that that they left with ALL starships available leaving Vulcans with no other choice than not only rebuild their society but also rebuild their space program from scratch. I couls imagine than upon leaving the future Romulans blew up all ground facilities of the Vulcan space program, so no more VABs, factories, launchpads, engine test and design labs and power plants... all of that as a reprisail against their brothers. Given how, in the Potemkin fan series, some original stranded Vulcans deal between eachother, some behaving more like Romulans, it's entirely possible.
In case anyone wants to hear facts they already know about vulcans instead of ones they don’t:
1 they have internal organs
2. They have blood
3. They do not have heat vision
4. They have ears
5. They have skin
6. They are not tholians
7. They do not swell and explode if they see mice
8. Vulcan starts with a V
9. There are more than 1 vulcan(s) in Star Trek.
10. Vulcans are not made of plutonium
Ok- I am a Trekkie. I am a person who respects the Vulcan culture and society. They are a very spiritual people. What you did not talk about in the video is sharing of the minds. "My mind to your mind. My thoughts to your thoughts." Not all Vulcans have this ability. That is why at first (in Star Trek Enterprise) it was feared. Some have the ability and some do not. By the time of Spock (TNG) it is no longer feared. It is now viewed as "some can and some cannot" read thoughts. Any other Trekkies who feel differently??? Please let me know. Live Long and Prosper.
They all have the ability, but not every Vulcan was born with such easy access to it. Most Vulcans during that period avoided anything to do with mind melds because their society had deemed it undesirable due to infiltration of their government by Romulan machinations designed to rob them of their cultural heritage and make them easy to manipulate. As a telepathic ability, mind melds would have been an enormous threat to Romulan agents and would keep them from being able to control Vulcan society - which is precisely why they vilified the practice and started pushing them into forgetting that every Vulcan has the potential.
@@heartoffire5902 Thank you. I did not know they all had the ability. Interesting.
Never thought I'd see the name of the only magazine I ever wrote for being mentioned in a TrekCulture video.
Would that be Spockanalia? Or one of the others?
@@ashedarke Sky and Telescope, an amateur astronomy magazine mentioned during the 40 Eridani A section. Something I wouldn't necessarily expect to see mentioned in a TrekCulture video. Wrote an article on structuring observation sessions that was published in there nine years ago.
@@tjzambonischwartz that's cool, hopefully a nice little throwback for you.
Which?
@@katehardwick4283 Sky and Telescope.
Excellent! Well done! Thank you!
A very interesting episode.
I knew all that stuff. I’ve been at this since September of 1966.. Favorite zine….”Night of the Twin Moons” by Jean Lorrah. It’s the best.
Regarding warp drive. It's interesting to note that other alien species were centuries if not millennia ahead of us in this technology. So Quark made a good point regarding this.
Leonard Nemoy's plaque made me tear up a little.
Loved it when T'Pol gave one of the Ferengis a Vulcan Nerve Pinch. She did sweat on the Seleya in 'Impulse', but wss affected by all that Trellium D ore that was turning into her former engineer-Solin-into zombies. Oddly, you'd think a scientist would know better than to addict herself to a chemical that drove her Vulcan crewmates nuts. My friend Jean has Asperger's and is a big Trekker too.
I knew about the town called Vulcan but I didn't know they actually exploited it like Ferengis and turned it into a profitable venture.
I always question the once every seven years , cause then it make no logic sense when it comes to the existence of Spock himself. But then again there are so many questions Sarek's life pre-Amanda. Like is Sybok's mother Sarek's intendent bride?
That’s always been my head canon. However, I have no idea if that’s correct. I’d love to see SNW give some background about him.
@@bbartky what part is head canon, Sarek being betrothed to Sybok's mother? Pon Farr seems to be very violent and with a vulcan's strength I would worry about them mating with a human at that time.
@@karencarter18042 So you think Sybok's mother stepped in for Amanda and "took one for the team"?
@@DTavona No , I don't think that is the reason Sybok exists. Nor do I think Sarek need to go through Pon Farr to be interested in loving Amanda. I just don't think Sarek's parents would have not gotten a bride for their son. We have seen what happens to a Vulcan when they go through Pon Farr without being able to be with their betrothed. Why would Sarek risk being an ambassador to Earth knowing what could happen.
@@bbartkySybok's mother was a Vulcan Princess who turn her back on Surak's teaching, Sarek later divorced her and eventually married Spock's mother Amanda.
Great feature! In addition to being the birthplace of Spock, my home province of Alberta also boasts a UFO landing pad in the town of St. Paul. We love aliens here! 🖖🏽
I read in an ST Novel (forgot the title, such a long time ago) that Vulcans are able to engage persistent mental links with each other. This was done during the migration of the Romulan's ancestors ventured to find a new home. Unfortunately, probably due to relativistic time dilation or just the impossible distances, these links were eventually severed. Not having the technology for intragalactic communications, Vulcans (and the eventual Romulans afeter they found their new home in Ch'Havran and Ch'Rihan) forgot this history.
"Going to the (Nurse) chapel." I see what you did there! 😆
Inspired by the Vulcans, I actually began training myself to control my emotions- and it does help. I can now go to crowded areas without wanting to spontaneously combust.
[Yes, I am neurodivergent if anyone asks.]
In a way, I would not be a functional member of society if not for Star Trek.
Zoharr, the way that you trained yourself to control your emotions is very impressive. 👏
The Vulcan's also play a big part in Minnesota history at the St. Paul Winter Carnival for when the nights start to get shorter..... If I remember correctly...
thank you for your time
The nerve pinch also allowed Kirk to have more screen time showing off him being knocked out, also no accidental whack to the back of the head.
Vulcan (more strictly _Vulcanus_ in the original Latin) was the god of fire, volcanoes, deserts & metalworking. As is typical with the Romans they pinched the Greek equivalent gods and renamed them. His Greek name is _Hephaestus_ (I'll spare you the geek in me wanting to write that in Greek!)
Obviously you can see the connection between the fictional Vulcan planet and the Greco Roman idea of the god. Hephaestus was the blacksmith to the gods (IIRC, so was Vulcan). Vulcan was said to live in Mount Etna - at least that's where the "smithy" was.
He's tied to the story of the founding of Rome by Romulus. Tell me that's, or anything mentioned above, coincidental when it comes to much of Spock's origins and further explanation of the history and geography/geology of the planet Vulcan!
Several things. Another explanation for pon farr is that Vulcan males are able to have relations any time, but within pon farr they are fertile; a bit like human females menstrual cycle. Pon farr would be an extreme PMS.
An usual thing in fanfiction is Vulcans getting drunk/high on chocolate. It comes from the novelization of The One With The Whales. Kirk buys chocolate mints to get exact change for the bus, and gives some to Spock. After all the events at the Aquarium, Kirk asks Spock if he is drunk, and Spock tells that sucrose (sugar) is intoxicating for Vulcans. Apparently sugar was not interesting enough, because even if some fanfiction tells stories of Vulcans inebriated with sugary stuff, lots of fanfiction have the funniest, craziest situations after a Vulcan has chocolate.
I didn't know this about Vulcans
Interesting casual name drop of Salome Jens (the Female Changeling) in the article about Spock, talking about how she was co-starring with him and Rock Hudson in the movie Seconds.
Off to another Chapel made me do a spit take. Good one.
I learned to do the 🖖 by using hair ties when I was like 7 and I can still do it today. Nostalgia
So great and funny too. Enjoyed the show.
I've never considered the similarity between Vulcans as they are portrayed and neurodivergent Humans. Thanks for pointing this out.
Thanks Sean
That ending pun... Pain :p
Great episode.
He was “off to another chapel.” Well played. lol
There is also a "VULCAN POINT ISLAND" in the main crater crater lake of the TAAL VOLCANO in the Philippines."
That neurodivergence bit is something I've thought for years, and I'm glad it's been seen by others, too. The idea of the Vulcan restraint of emotions as an analogue to the need to mask is one I've particularly felt a connection to
I know, Vulcan are a town in Alberta, Canada. I have an uncle who moved from Denmark many years ago and settled right outside Vulcan.
That is a so cool thing to say lol
Been there many times! It's always worth visiting the starship!
The phrasing of the salute is that the first person is supposed to say "Peace, and long life." and the RESPONSE is "Live long and prosper," unless being used as a farewell.
@@funfact8660Why would that be funny? 😢
Steven, the Vulcan salute isn't always done in the manner you described. I do recall seeing it transpire in that sequence, though.
Fascinating.
Vulcan is located about 100 miles north of the Alberta-Montana border, or about 125 miles south-southwest of Calgary. Fortunately, this location puts the town well south of any wildfires currently ravaging the province.
You left out that the at first the photolab kept color correcting Spock. The film had to be sent back several times until this was discovered and they were told to stop.
Thank you for pointing out, and explaining, the divergence. I have ADHD and can relate. This divergence is why I don't like recent trek trying to erase it from Spock.
It's like telling a divergent person they should act like a typical.
I like T'Pau, especially her younger self in ' The Awakening' on Enterprise". The older T'Pau's portayer, Celia Lovsky, was once married to horror actor Peter Lorre. He once told Spike Jones," You do to music what I do to people."
I agree with the common assessment that the change in Chapel/Spock relationship in SNW vs TOS has to do with the writer's & Paramount's wish to estrange themselves from Roddenberry's often misogynistic perspectives. In TOS, Chapel is often portrayed as a one-dimensional character who is only interested in Spock. In TOS, she is constantly pining after him, even though he shows no love interest in her. This portrayal of Chapel is demeaning and reinforces the idea that women are only valuable for their relationships with men.
In SNW, Chapel is a much more well-rounded character. She is clearly interested in Spock, but she is also her own person with her own interests and goals. She is not defined by her relationship with Spock, and she is not constantly pining after him. This portrayal of Chapel is much more respectful and empowering.
I believe that the change in Chapel/Spock relationship is a positive step forward for Star Trek. It shows that the writers and Paramount are committed to creating a more evenhanded and respectful show.
Uh huh. And I suppose no man has EVER become one-dimensional because of his "pining" after some woman. Sheesh, dude, it can happen to almost anyone.
I don't know anything about the change in the Chapel-Spock relationship from that portrayed in the original series other than what I read in this and other comments. Here's what I, as a 12 to 13 year old viewer of the original series in its original time and date, thought in the Stone Age of those years.
* Not everyone gets liked back by the person whom they like. That's a GREAT lesson that Star Trek provided, because everybody gets rejected sometime. There just might not ever be a mutual attraction and forcing someone to love you is a losing move. It seemed clear that the Spock - Nurse relationship would never reach lift off but it might continue to be used as a minor plot point of the characters.
* Many shows in those years decided to not let a romance start or continue particularly between recurring characters because the audience would lose interest in the "dulled-down" relationship. That's why just about every woman who appeared in Bonanza died, or became a nun, or remembered that she was actually married. It's why in the western series Gunsmoke, Matt and Kitty never even held hands - they would just look "maturely" at each other every 8 to 10 episodes to ensure that we knew they really DID have a romance of some extremely boring nature.
* Nurse Chapel (Majel Barrett) and Gene Roddenberry were carrying on an affair during the original series. The SUITS became convinced that negative gossip might increase about her personally, her character, and/or the character of Spock. And Chapel and Spock carrying on with each other in the show might exponentially increase negative publicity.
[Majel and Gene did marry and she played parts in other Star Trek series.]
* During the very interesting 60's and a bit less interesting 70's, women and girls were thinking that we, too, should have the opportunity to be doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. And some of us DID that while others wanted to marry a nice man and raise children, and others wanted to do both. I always thought that people should at least have the opportunity to do what they want to do.
[And now some want to throw away the advancements that were accomplished by many forward-thinking brave people. SIGH.]
Nurse Chapel had the opportunity to become a First Officer BUT she did NOT have the opportunity to remain a First Officer. In the ORIGINAL ORIGINAL two part opener she was the first officer (with a "more professional" not blonde) hair color. But when the wife of Jeffrey Hunter (the ORIGINAL ORIGINAL captain) told him that she saw no future in a space ship TV show he lost interest while the SUITS decided that a series with a woman running the ship wasn't going to be a hit show.
Therefore, in the two part reworked Original Series opener she got reworked off the bridge and into the medical cabin to experience the longing looks at Spock that were never returned.
Was Gene a misogynist? He was a man of that time - a forward thinker in terms of science (such as transporters and communicators) as well as story themes and structure. But Majel was not the only affair that he had in his life and, I think, he viewed that as an OK thing.
Fascinating,
I'd like to hear how life was for the Vulcan left behind in the Voyager episode. While on earth where he crash landed.
6:06 Wise choice of clip.
Ok, with most of these "10 things you didnt know" videos, I typically know most of them. This one on the other hand I barely knew anything.