@@TomsMusicShop Tom , do you know what the felt pads that go on the under side of the trebele side on diatonic accordions are called . The small little pads that go on each button hole ?
@@ninergoldrush2680 Hey Niner! Well, the pad holders are called "pallets". So I would guess that stuff is called pallet felt. www.stringsandboxes.de/Accordion-Materials/Accordion-Felt/Leather-for-pallets-Treble/Bass
Okay...my take. I have just switched to Melodion from a Hohner Bravo 3 120 bass accordion. This new 120 bass was made in China and did not compare with my older German made Hohner Atlantic 4. I kept running out of air with it. It did not have that typical and lovely German thumping bass. On the melodion front, I think the old German made paperwork melodions sound better ( more bass ...the treble is powerful). The plastic keyboard is a big plus especially out here in humid Australia. The corona 3 is a beautifully made instrument. The Chinese have been making instruments for THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!! Something has gone wrong with Hohner management. They need a sound quality engineer and tester to bring back that Hohner sound which they were loved for. The reeds are just not the same. Why the Chinese made accordions need more pumping I do not know. Maybe the reed clearances are a tad too generous or the bellows are just not tight. But that's my take. Why do most people opt for an old German box? I have just explained why.
I agree with you on those points, Peter. I think tolerances used to be lower on the older reeds. Plus, wood resonates better as it ages. At least that’s how it is with the guitar. I don’t know why the newer ones might be lacking in compression though. Have a good day! Tom
I begin playing Button Melodeon next week. I wonder if I eventually need to buy another as a backup while it’s away being turned/serviced. How often does a (Saltarelle Bouebe) does one of these need to be tuned? Note that I’m a beginner and will probably play about 40 minutes a day. Thanks! 🙂😎🎻
I mean, as long as you take care of your instrument, and store it in a dry place (not the attic or basement), the tuning should be good for quite a while. Tuning gets mostly affected by the metal reeds oxidizing, getting, dusty, etc.
I can’t comment on the wooden key board or for that matter the corona, I have a Chinese made two row poker work Hohner which has the plastic key board. I found it very annoying that when playing it the buttons went down into the hole and I would catch my fingers on the rim of the hole. I resolved that by fitting a strip of thick felt onto the plastic below the behind the buttons. This stopped them going below the plastic. The type of felt I use was made to go on the bottom furniture legs to stop them scraping on wood or tiled floors. I don’t play the melodeon very often I prefer to play my Fantini 5 row C system accordion.
I like the wood keyboard. With a wood keyboard the balance of the accordion is better. And it sounds better. The wood keyboard is a vibrating structure and adds a small amount of volume.
Hey Richard, thanks for your feedback! I always wondered what do you opinions were on this. From the maintenance standpoint, the plastic is better, but admittedly the wooden one feels a little nicer.
I've been around diatonic Hohners for decades and am a pretty busy repairer. I can't remember ever seeing a German made one with a broken bass spring. But the Chinese 3 row instruments, including Coronas and Del Reys do have a nasty habit of breaking bass springs.
Hey Peter! Actually, I have never had a bass spring break, but I did have a treble spring break in one of the very first Corona IIs that I had. It hasn't happened since then, but I have springs on reserve now. 😉
@@TomsMusicShop I'm in Melbourne Australia and we have a small Columbian community here who play Coronas, or possibly more often the cheaper versions aimed at the Central American market - the Panthers, Compradres, El Reys, all of which of course are Chinese made. Anyway, I've probably had to replace a dozen or so broken bass springs over the last 8 - 9 years.
Very interesting, Peter. Thanks for sharing! I’ve had several hundred of these go through my hands and I only saw that happen once. That’s interesting to know that you have a small Columbian community there in Australia 🇦🇺.
@@TomsMusicShopit’s actually Colombian, not Columbian. And yes Colombian’s are big in Corona lll because Vallenatos Songs and Cumbia Songs. Hear some and let me know.
excellent video like always Tom
Thanks, Niner!
@@TomsMusicShop Tom , do you know what the felt pads that go on the under side of the trebele side on diatonic accordions are called . The small little pads that go on each button hole ?
@@ninergoldrush2680 Hey Niner! Well, the pad holders are called "pallets". So I would guess that stuff is called pallet felt.
www.stringsandboxes.de/Accordion-Materials/Accordion-Felt/Leather-for-pallets-Treble/Bass
Okay...my take.
I have just switched to Melodion from a Hohner Bravo 3 120 bass accordion.
This new 120 bass was made in China and did not compare with my older German made Hohner Atlantic 4.
I kept running out of air with it.
It did not have that typical and lovely German thumping bass.
On the melodion front, I think the old German made paperwork melodions sound better ( more bass ...the treble is powerful).
The plastic keyboard is a big plus especially out here in humid Australia.
The corona 3 is a beautifully made instrument.
The Chinese have been making instruments for THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!!
Something has gone wrong with Hohner management.
They need a sound quality engineer and tester to bring back that Hohner sound which they were loved for.
The reeds are just not the same.
Why the Chinese made accordions need more pumping I do not know.
Maybe the reed clearances are a tad too generous or the bellows are just not tight.
But that's my take.
Why do most people opt for an old German box?
I have just explained why.
I agree with you on those points, Peter. I think tolerances used to be lower on the older reeds. Plus, wood resonates better as it ages. At least that’s how it is with the guitar. I don’t know why the newer ones might be lacking in compression though.
Have a good day! Tom
I begin playing Button Melodeon next week. I wonder if I eventually need to buy another as a backup while it’s away being turned/serviced. How often does a (Saltarelle Bouebe) does one of these need to be tuned? Note that I’m a beginner and will probably play about 40 minutes a day. Thanks! 🙂😎🎻
I mean, as long as you take care of your instrument, and store it in a dry place (not the attic or basement), the tuning should be good for quite a while. Tuning gets mostly affected by the metal reeds oxidizing, getting, dusty, etc.
@@TomsMusicShop Thanks! 😎
I just got a new classic I did not know they where made in China since the 90s. 😮
Excelente!!!👏👏👏👏👏
Haha, thanks Mariana!
I can’t comment on the wooden key board or for that matter the corona, I have a Chinese made two row poker work Hohner which has the plastic key board. I found it very annoying that when playing it the buttons went down into the hole and I would catch my fingers on the rim of the hole. I resolved that by fitting a strip of thick felt onto the plastic below the behind the buttons. This stopped them going below the plastic. The type of felt I use was made to go on the bottom furniture legs to stop them scraping on wood or tiled floors. I don’t play the melodeon very often I prefer to play my Fantini 5 row C system accordion.
Thanks for your feedback, Peter!
4:35 Que linda valsa😊😊😊
It’s supposed to be, anyway ;) I have a tough time playing with both hands.
I like the wood keyboard. With a wood keyboard the balance of the accordion is better. And it sounds better. The wood keyboard is a vibrating structure and adds a small amount of volume.
Hey Richard, thanks for your feedback! I always wondered what do you opinions were on this. From the maintenance standpoint, the plastic is better, but admittedly the wooden one feels a little nicer.
the older hohner keyboards are a bit less noisy
That’s cool, Isaac. Thanks for your comment!
No problems with the china version
Very good Ismael, thanks for your comment!
I've been around diatonic Hohners for decades and am a pretty busy repairer. I can't remember ever seeing a German made one with a broken bass spring. But the Chinese 3 row instruments, including Coronas and Del Reys do have a nasty habit of breaking bass springs.
Hey Peter! Actually, I have never had a bass spring break, but I did have a treble spring break in one of the very first Corona IIs that I had. It hasn't happened since then, but I have springs on reserve now. 😉
@@TomsMusicShop I'm in Melbourne Australia and we have a small Columbian community here who play Coronas, or possibly more often the cheaper versions aimed at the Central American market - the Panthers, Compradres, El Reys, all of which of course are Chinese made. Anyway, I've probably had to replace a dozen or so broken bass springs over the last 8 - 9 years.
Very interesting, Peter. Thanks for sharing! I’ve had several hundred of these go through my hands and I only saw that happen once. That’s interesting to know that you have a small Columbian community there in Australia 🇦🇺.
@@TomsMusicShopit’s actually Colombian, not Columbian. And yes Colombian’s are big in Corona lll because Vallenatos Songs and Cumbia Songs. Hear some and let me know.
I prefer plastic keyboard
Great! Can you say why? Lots of people like the wooden ones. I think both are fine.
Sounds like it could use some tuning 🤷♂️
Hey Ryan, thanks for your perspective.
Wooden keyboard made in Germany
What’s the advantage for you, Pete?
new chinese hohner corona iii’s are made out of crap wood i think like the panthers