I didn't hear anything very funny from him. He just comes across as a cocky Northern Jack-the-Lad. There are ten of him in every pub North of Sandbach Services mate. You ought to come for a holiday.
Stuart Lancaster was bad at the end of the day. Not picking Danny because he was a little controversial and choosing Marland over Chris or others was stupid and dont get me started on his back row
Mate, England don't want him back you keep him lmao. The guy had a home world cup and couldn't create a good environment for the players and produced shit games.
Ashton was dropped by Lancaster after the ABs match when he shot out of the line for a spot tackle about 10 yards out. That, I believe, signaled to Lancaster that he was not dependable defender.
Correct. Lancaster dropped him for shit defence, the same shit defence that cost us dearly in WC ‘11. Due to being the arch poacher he plays in great teams like Sarries and Toulon where his defence is hidden and not exposed by being in a great defensive team. But his defence still isn’t the best and, coupled with his all round play, may be the reason he doesn’t get selected. He’s a great luxury to have to sniff out tries but can be a liability. I’m sure people will now give me loads of shit but it’s just an opinion, chill out guys ✌️
Dan Patterson of course it is when playing for sarries and Toulon where your defensive frailties are covered up in very good defensive teams and you are given a shit load of tries/overlaps, anyone would get a decent record that way. He just doesn’t have the all round game of Watson, Daly, May or Nowell. In football, strikers just need to score, not defend. In rugby, wingers and fullbacks need to defend... Ashton can’t!
@@brentmeistergeneral6074 and they need to score tries as well, heres a little fact for you, Ashton has twice the strike rate in tries to game ratios than ANY of the 4 you mention, and if his defence was'nt good enough he would'nt have played for Saracens, Gustard said it himself, he's no better or worse than most backs, they ALL miss tackles
George ford has had the best season of his career. Played well for England this year. Top prem points scorer even with missing out through international duty. Whilst being at a shit club. But obviously you wouldn't know that because you on the bandwagon and probably have not watched a leicester game all season.
Eddie Jones was a breath of fresh air after Lancaster, and many results speak for themselves, but not Selecting easily the best 10 in Europe, Cipriani, and arguably the best 15 in Europe, Alex Goode is disgraceful. Ashton is understandable in some ways as we have a wealth of back 3 talent, but without Cips I honestly don't think we can win the WC as he has that game changing X factor game that can't be coached.. To my mind 3 backs that may not go but absolutely should as they're special players, Goode, Cipriani and big Joe C.. And Hughes needs dropping completely. One trick pony, upright in tackle and abysmal defensively.. Sam Simmonds, Zac Mercer, Ted Hill, great 6 and 8 potential game changers, with Wilson, Big Billy V, Curry and Underhill shoe ins if fit.. One other who we need to be fit is Mako. He's the best loosehead in world rugby and since Marlers retirement we're a bit short there.. Moon is a great workhorse, Genge is good enough on his day, but Mako is special..
Easily the best 10? Bollocks, Biggar, Russel, Farrel and Sexton are better than him. Biggar and Russel can change up a game more than him. Cips should be on the plane but he is not the best 10 in Europe
@Cameron Brown I'm not saying Farrell isn't a great player and inspiration,because he is, and he owns the England 10 jersey.. But when, not if, England are in trouble in the WC, after 50-60 minutes, I would rather have Cipriani coming off the bench to add the bit of magic that only he provides as an English 10.. Definitely Ford isn't good enough, and Marcus Smith isn't ready. He's been easily the best 10 in Europe this season, and not choked once, as his fellow pros, and commentators have voted. As much as I like Farrell, he's not the heartbeat of Sarries, thats Brad Barritt, and if you put cips in that side I'm certain they would still be at least as great, if not more so..
@@colc5469 Biggar???? Haha he's a player to close an already won game out, not a game breaker.. Sexton is a game manager and hasn't been anywhere near playing well this season. Russell us the nearest to Cipriani I've seen for mercurial play, but his game management isn't great if not playing all out attack. Farrell owns the England 10 shirt deservedly, but doesn't have that extra spark that Cipriani has, and would bring to the WC. He can change a game in the blink of an eye, and I believe he's needed to come off the bench in the WC during difficult games.. he has been the best club 10 in Europe this season, as shown by the accolades he's picked up, especially from his fellow pros...
@wildebest I watch pro14, super Rugby, French top 14 and some televised French federale games when televised.. I also played at a very good level, albeit many years ago, and don't disagree with your assessment of Farrell at all, but if we're to have a chance of winning the WC, we need to offer something different at times.. I know all the arguments against Goode, but to say he's had a fair go is unconvincing to say the least.. There's a very good reason he plays at 15 for Sarries ahead of Liam Williams. He's the consummate 15 because he has the extra and highly unusual skill set of being a very good playmaker with vision, who has played at 10 without any drop in performance.. He's deceptively quick, with amazing balance, strength for his size, good under the high ball, defensively solid, and if its to be believed the first name on the team sheet at Sarries.. I know why Cipriani doesn't play more for England, but my argument is that when England need a game changer in the WC if/when they get to the latter stages and are maybe behind at 55-60 minutes, I would want him coming off the bench rather than any other English 10.. Ford isn't good enough, and Marcus Smith is a great prospect, but lacks experience for the latter stages of a WC..
@@tollyt7465 Your evaluation of Biggar is just wrong. He was a crucial role in Wales Grand Slam being a great impact player throughout the Championship. Are you forgetting what Farrel did with Japan when he came on in the second half? Cips can change a game up make no mistake but is he the best 10 in the entirety of Europe? No he's just not.
How many chances has Cipriani had? Six? Seven? There has to be real consequences of acting a unstable dick eventually. Great narrative for the English press to develope though when England fail. If only we picked this messiah figure who would have easily beaten all comers single-handedly. Rughy is a business on and off the field, all about narrative and perception, hype and protecting brand. There is no honesty in any of it.
It's not a click bait title. The video is full of interesting content and there is the pay off when they do address the content of the title in the video. I'm not going to title the video. "Chris Ashton discusses his relationship with Stuart Lancaster and then goes on to talk about Cipriani at the end". It's too messy. Stop complaining, you're getting free content. If the video had not included the chat about cipriani, then it would be click bait. But it did.
Also the longer watch time improves the chance of the video being shown to people due to Yotube's algorithm. If you're not interested just lift your precious thumb and skip to the last minute ya fairy
School teacher attitude with grown men never works iv come across a few coaches like lancaster over the years in my sportting life .....never got on with them .They talk to you ilike ts ayear one games lesson ...Never good 😮😮
@@matthofmann7517 An award also won by Nick Abendanon. Didn't mean he automatically got picked for England. Club rugby isn't test rugby, and Watson, Daly and Nowell are all Lions test players, which suggests Gatland thinks highly of them too.
Although Ashton was certainly able to run in some good tries, he did not have much of a clue about defence within the Union game. As such there are better wingers to choose from.
Nothing new. Answer: "He doesn't fit in". Fast forward to the final 45 seconds for the subject of the video. The rest is just showboating guff, starting with a bizarre jokey comment from Jim Hamilton about "abusing boys". What the heck was that about?
6.40 for title part of the video
Exactly the comment I was going to make.....and even then, he ended up saying that he just doesn't fit in the set up.....FFS
6:40
Didn’t realise how funny Ashton was until this podcast
I didn't hear anything very funny from him. He just comes across as a cocky Northern Jack-the-Lad. There are ten of him in every pub North of Sandbach Services mate. You ought to come for a holiday.
Ed McGuigan did you actually watch the whole podcast
Besides all the show boating and media Criticism, Chris Ashton is one hell of a bloke !
Ashton sounds like he's from Winterfell
@Connor Mcdonald I figured
@Connor Mcdonald It was a joke
Stuart Lancaster was bad at the end of the day. Not picking Danny because he was a little controversial and choosing Marland over Chris or others was stupid and dont get me started on his back row
As a Leinster supported I hope he maintains such a terrible reputation in England, and neither the national side or any of the clubs look to hire him
Ashton went a long spell without scoring a try for England and his defence was crap.
Mate, England don't want him back you keep him lmao. The guy had a home world cup and couldn't create a good environment for the players and produced shit games.
I'm sure Lancaster is happy in Ireland and happy to be away from the moaning English, babbling on about swing fucking low swing friggin world cup..
UPthatHILL Music good coach no way director of rugby
Loved hearing big Jim being so honest
About not being happy watching Scotland go far in the World Cup
Fair play Mr Ashton, very honest and from the heart. Forget the macho bullshit response, you will actually have touched some people
Danny went to my old school, oratory reading
Cips should be in that squad
Wow Ashton is a legend
Ashton was dropped by Lancaster after the ABs match when he shot out of the line for a spot tackle about 10 yards out. That, I believe, signaled to Lancaster that he was not dependable defender.
Correct. Lancaster dropped him for shit defence, the same shit defence that cost us dearly in WC ‘11. Due to being the arch poacher he plays in great teams like Sarries and Toulon where his defence is hidden and not exposed by being in a great defensive team. But his defence still isn’t the best and, coupled with his all round play, may be the reason he doesn’t get selected. He’s a great luxury to have to sniff out tries but can be a liability.
I’m sure people will now give me loads of shit but it’s just an opinion, chill out guys ✌️
Andrew Vance oh I agree but it’s like in football with just goalscorer, Ashton scores tries just what he does his record is unreal
Dan Patterson of course it is when playing for sarries and Toulon where your defensive frailties are covered up in very good defensive teams and you are given a shit load of tries/overlaps, anyone would get a decent record that way. He just doesn’t have the all round game of Watson, Daly, May or Nowell.
In football, strikers just need to score, not defend. In rugby, wingers and fullbacks need to defend... Ashton can’t!
@@brentmeistergeneral6074 and they need to score tries as well, heres a little fact for you, Ashton has twice the strike rate in tries to game ratios than ANY of the 4 you mention, and if his defence was'nt good enough he would'nt have played for Saracens, Gustard said it himself, he's no better or worse than most backs, they ALL miss tackles
Ashton weren't picked by Lancaster cos he was also fucking banned half the time lmao
George Ford should not be picked
George ford has had the best season of his career. Played well for England this year. Top prem points scorer even with missing out through international duty. Whilst being at a shit club. But obviously you wouldn't know that because you on the bandwagon and probably have not watched a leicester game all season.
Mcal laughable, steered the ship so well at 10 for Leicester they finished 11th only wining 7 games
Dumbass
Mcal ford has been outstanding just cipriani is better
Mcal yet he wasn’t voted Prem player of the year 👀
Eddie Jones was a breath of fresh air after Lancaster, and many results speak for themselves, but not Selecting easily the best 10 in Europe, Cipriani, and arguably the best 15 in Europe, Alex Goode is disgraceful. Ashton is understandable in some ways as we have a wealth of back 3 talent, but without Cips I honestly don't think we can win the WC as he has that game changing X factor game that can't be coached.. To my mind 3 backs that may not go but absolutely should as they're special players, Goode, Cipriani and big Joe C..
And Hughes needs dropping completely. One trick pony, upright in tackle and abysmal defensively.. Sam Simmonds, Zac Mercer, Ted Hill, great 6 and 8 potential game changers, with Wilson, Big Billy V, Curry and Underhill shoe ins if fit.. One other who we need to be fit is Mako. He's the best loosehead in world rugby and since Marlers retirement we're a bit short there.. Moon is a great workhorse, Genge is good enough on his day, but Mako is special..
Easily the best 10? Bollocks, Biggar, Russel, Farrel and Sexton are better than him. Biggar and Russel can change up a game more than him. Cips should be on the plane but he is not the best 10 in Europe
@Cameron Brown I'm not saying Farrell isn't a great player and inspiration,because he is, and he owns the England 10 jersey.. But when, not if, England are in trouble in the WC, after 50-60 minutes, I would rather have Cipriani coming off the bench to add the bit of magic that only he provides as an English 10.. Definitely Ford isn't good enough, and Marcus Smith isn't ready. He's been easily the best 10 in Europe this season, and not choked once, as his fellow pros, and commentators have voted. As much as I like Farrell, he's not the heartbeat of Sarries, thats Brad Barritt, and if you put cips in that side I'm certain they would still be at least as great, if not more so..
@@colc5469 Biggar???? Haha he's a player to close an already won game out, not a game breaker.. Sexton is a game manager and hasn't been anywhere near playing well this season. Russell us the nearest to Cipriani I've seen for mercurial play, but his game management isn't great if not playing all out attack. Farrell owns the England 10 shirt deservedly, but doesn't have that extra spark that Cipriani has, and would bring to the WC. He can change a game in the blink of an eye, and I believe he's needed to come off the bench in the WC during difficult games.. he has been the best club 10 in Europe this season, as shown by the accolades he's picked up, especially from his fellow pros...
@wildebest I watch pro14, super Rugby, French top 14 and some televised French federale games when televised.. I also played at a very good level, albeit many years ago, and don't disagree with your assessment of Farrell at all, but if we're to have a chance of winning the WC, we need to offer something different at times.. I know all the arguments against Goode, but to say he's had a fair go is unconvincing to say the least.. There's a very good reason he plays at 15 for Sarries ahead of Liam Williams. He's the consummate 15 because he has the extra and highly unusual skill set of being a very good playmaker with vision, who has played at 10 without any drop in performance.. He's deceptively quick, with amazing balance, strength for his size, good under the high ball, defensively solid, and if its to be believed the first name on the team sheet at Sarries..
I know why Cipriani doesn't play more for England, but my argument is that when England need a game changer in the WC if/when they get to the latter stages and are maybe behind at 55-60 minutes, I would want him coming off the bench rather than any other English 10.. Ford isn't good enough, and Marcus Smith is a great prospect, but lacks experience for the latter stages of a WC..
@@tollyt7465 Your evaluation of Biggar is just wrong. He was a crucial role in Wales Grand Slam being a great impact player throughout the Championship. Are you forgetting what Farrel did with Japan when he came on in the second half? Cips can change a game up make no mistake but is he the best 10 in the entirety of Europe? No he's just not.
Cips is class too much politics
Scotland would have been patterned by Argentina in 2015 lol
Scotland were one dodgy ref's decision away from beating finalists Australia.
How many chances has Cipriani had? Six? Seven? There has to be real consequences of acting a unstable dick eventually. Great narrative for the English press to develope though when England fail. If only we picked this messiah figure who would have easily beaten all comers single-handedly. Rughy is a business on and off the field, all about narrative and perception, hype and protecting brand. There is no honesty in any of it.
Steaks L was a terrible coach for England. Apparently he's a good assistant at Leinster, but ..............
Different take....I am drunk. his is the era Mike Brown was 15 Alex GOODE never had a chance...
Great prediction
Stop these click bait titles when you don’t get to the point until the very end, its unbelievably annoying
It's not a click bait title. The video is full of interesting content and there is the pay off when they do address the content of the title in the video. I'm not going to title the video. "Chris Ashton discusses his relationship with Stuart Lancaster and then goes on to talk about Cipriani at the end". It's too messy. Stop complaining, you're getting free content. If the video had not included the chat about cipriani, then it would be click bait. But it did.
Milo Gill-Taylor in other words; you’re a twat
Also the longer watch time improves the chance of the video being shown to people due to Yotube's algorithm. If you're not interested just lift your precious thumb and skip to the last minute ya fairy
School teacher attitude with grown men never works iv come across a few coaches like lancaster over the years in my sportting life .....never got on with them .They talk to you ilike ts ayear one games lesson ...Never good 😮😮
My back five for England world cup squad would be May, Daly, Nowell, Watson and Cokanasiga. Ashton and Brown might step in for an injury.
beatonthedonis47 Alex Goode?
@@matthofmann7517 Goode can't play wing. The seven I mentioned have played wing for England and five of them can play full back.
beatonthedonis47 Goode at full back May and Daly/Nowell on the wing remember that Goode recently won the award for best European player
@@matthofmann7517 An award also won by Nick Abendanon. Didn't mean he automatically got picked for England. Club rugby isn't test rugby, and Watson, Daly and Nowell are all Lions test players, which suggests Gatland thinks highly of them too.
Can you explain Nowells absolutely abysmal try scoring stats, hes a myth, bang average at best @@beatonthedonis
Although Ashton was certainly able to run in some good tries, he did not have much of a clue about defence within the Union game.
As such there are better wingers to choose from.
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Nothing new. Answer: "He doesn't fit in". Fast forward to the final 45 seconds for the subject of the video. The rest is just showboating guff, starting with a bizarre jokey comment from Jim Hamilton about "abusing boys". What the heck was that about?