Thanks for another interesting video! Much would depend on the individual and the exact dimensions of the bat. They make small bats for fishing where someone can administer a quick kill to a fish with a knock on the head. These bats are very lightweight and just a little bit shorter than the one you used. They would be a good example of what you were using. Some softball bats are also fairly thin and lightweight. They would be longer than the bat you used and would be very effective even when wielded with one hand. Some of the larger baseball bats might be too heavy to use effectively with one hand. That would be a different kind of fight.
I'd also wonder about using a bat as a shortened staff. A two-handed approach (like a baton) would mean you could defend and attack from either end, and easily transition to a large swing.
The problem with sacrificing the arm is that you do not know, how exactly your body will react to the trauma of perhaps getting both bones in the lower arm shattered. It might be directly debilitating. Anyway - quite interesting again. Did something similar with two sais against a European long sword a few years ago. Of course, the sais often come in pairs AND you can use them to hook.
@@kanetao Not necessarily. At least, battle and fight descriprions say so. Depending on the makeup of your neural pathways it can als drop and the trauma might even stop your heart.
Another issue is how solid the hit is. A glancing blow that shatters the elbow and part of the forearm, and you should still be able to charge in. But if it hits you solidly on the elbow and snaps your humerus, you're not gonna be able to charge in. Getting hit like that is like running into a wall, it'll stop you dead in your tracks and make you stumble back; and it's not even a matter of the pain, just how much force it suddenly imparts.
That's what I was thinking too. Besides that trying to block a metal bat as someone swings might work but I think more often than not the person swinging is trying to put damage into you so your hand/fingers are gonna be crushed.
i think quite interesting is that all choosing the bat used it more like a shortsword. They swung it like a bat, yes. But with a bat you would normally not hold in in front of you because you have less time for swinging it back and then down on your opponent. You need it in a position ready to hit your opponent critically. To actually injure your opponent and not let him get to stab you, you would need to hit quite hard on important parts of the body so the knifeperson cant continue his attack, which he is defenitly able to when just hit lightly.
Another good training session 👊🏻 personally I would choose the knife even though it limits your range and maybe a real bat will be heavier and also slower to swing
I think it also matters that the guys whose chose the bat were both taller than the knife wielder, which means they also have a naturally longer reach, further compounding their range advantage.
So an adult baseball bat is longer and heavier. More importantly it can be used two handed like a staff for thrusting attacks as well as double-ended attacks.
I would prefer the bat or a baton, small staff against a knife. In a knife attack situation, the staff is much better for self defende, specially if you use Kali and Silat martial arts.
That prop bat is closer to a real baton than a real baseball bat Which is fine by me. I always wanna see a more realistic showdown of the Donnie Yen vs Wu Jing fight scene in SPL Killzone, see how it gonna play out And i got it here. Greatly appreciated
Just a little insight from Filipino martial arts. For a blunt weapon like a bat to hit hard it's mostly about speed, not distance traveled. Speed can also be created by arcing attacks. A skilled stick fighter can throw powerful attacks the same way a whip or the one inch punch generates power
The knifeman was too intenta on attacking the body. I think that once he had hold of the bat hand, he could hace attacked the arm to neutralizar the weapon, them get freedom to finish the opponent.
The weight of a bat is not that much to make it cumbersome in a fight. A wooden bat weighs maybe 29-36 ounces. Aluminum bats weigh even less. In the video the guy with the bat looks more like he’s trying to fence with it rather then using as a clubbing weapon. The bat has huge advantage. It can be held with two hands giving it much more power and with size simply turning wrist adds more powerful impact. It’s disadvantage is if missed with swing you can be open for counter attack. Also the knife is faster and can cut. If you are not trained the bat is easier to attack and defend and it’s not even close. For someone who is trained the difference is smaller but the bat still has the advantage. On a side the size of the “bat” makes it look more like he’s fighting with a baton which be a very different weapon then a bat
I apologize, but a fighter with a longer weapon (bat) who does not have the skill to take advantage of the weapon's length is not good fighter. In our sparrings longer weapon wielder attacks legs (knees) or hands (especially with weapon) much more often than a head or other body parts.
really appreciate your content! what do you think about inviting some longsword figher once again? it's really interesting to watch japanese schools of swordsmanship vs HEMA
The problem with every Kendo people I have sparred with is they all stop their attack at the front, they do not follow with the cut. Which is make a lot of mistakes when they use different weapons.
When I was sparring amongst my friends, I was regularly forced to fall back to my sidearm knife, and most of the time, it served me better as a projectile
If someone has a knife, and you have armor, you're still not safe. The single most salient point I ever learned in jujutsu was that someone that's good with a knife will know how to conceal it and you're not leaving without getting wounded, unless you can run faster than they can. I wouldn't engage anyone with a knife with anything shorter than a nuntibo or eku.
Great video, and quality content! For me it gives an idea of how useful or not an expandable baton or bat can be agaist a knife with the right training. And none of that BS about catching the knife hand
I think a bat is stronger, because at worst, you'll break some bone in the opponent before he beats you, and at best you'll break him too much that he can't fight you back.
It does knot need to be a heavy baseball bat: even a light escrima stick will serve as well. Surely in this kind of fight distance, timing are the most important things... and a longer reach is always welcome! 👍 Thank you for this video and your mind open to experiment: it's fun to train this way and it teaches a lot.
Getting the feels of the second last fight scene with Wu Jing from Donnie Yen's SPL all over again watching this, although that was with a police baton which is probably less awkward to swing, twist and turn at speed than a real baseball bat.
The plastic bat was always going to be better since the taller fighters chose chose it though did they have to use 2 hands with the bat though since it was light plastic 1 hand Technique would of been better since the free hand could then be used to stop or disarm the knife
some bat alloys are pretty light aluminm etc how about teating it like a baton shuveeling to thwe lrft or right or in circles while swining left and right
Dagger is so dangerous. If you can not knock them down, they will just kill you. So if you use bats or sticks, you should make sure every strike would disable the guy with knife,
Apparently you did this just like this is a scored sport. The Bat man hit the knife girl first, then the knife girl stopped, this is ridiculous if you just do it in real fightg, knife guys would not stop until you knock them down.You hit them first doesn't mean they don't have the ability to stab you.
I really like how these videos are interesting and insightful, but also lighthearted, fun and not overly serious!
Thanks for another interesting video!
Much would depend on the individual and the exact dimensions of the bat. They make small bats for fishing where someone can administer a quick kill to a fish with a knock on the head. These bats are very lightweight and just a little bit shorter than the one you used. They would be a good example of what you were using. Some softball bats are also fairly thin and lightweight. They would be longer than the bat you used and would be very effective even when wielded with one hand. Some of the larger baseball bats might be too heavy to use effectively with one hand. That would be a different kind of fight.
I'd also wonder about using a bat as a shortened staff.
A two-handed approach (like a baton) would mean you could defend and attack from either end, and easily transition to a large swing.
Definitely. The bat could've been even longer, confirming easier wins.
The problem with sacrificing the arm is that you do not know, how exactly your body will react to the trauma of perhaps getting both bones in the lower arm shattered. It might be directly debilitating.
Anyway - quite interesting again. Did something similar with two sais against a European long sword a few years ago. Of course, the sais often come in pairs AND you can use them to hook.
Actually, even smashed there is time before you get crushing pain, long enough to get in a stab.
@@kanetao Not necessarily. At least, battle and fight descriprions say so. Depending on the makeup of your neural pathways it can als drop and the trauma might even stop your heart.
Another issue is how solid the hit is. A glancing blow that shatters the elbow and part of the forearm, and you should still be able to charge in. But if it hits you solidly on the elbow and snaps your humerus, you're not gonna be able to charge in. Getting hit like that is like running into a wall, it'll stop you dead in your tracks and make you stumble back; and it's not even a matter of the pain, just how much force it suddenly imparts.
some people die heartattack from jumpscare, and there are this mfs carrying camrads in bullet rains.
That's what I was thinking too. Besides that trying to block a metal bat as someone swings might work but I think more often than not the person swinging is trying to put damage into you so your hand/fingers are gonna be crushed.
i think quite interesting is that all choosing the bat used it more like a shortsword. They swung it like a bat, yes. But with a bat you would normally not hold in in front of you because you have less time for swinging it back and then down on your opponent. You need it in a position ready to hit your opponent critically. To actually injure your opponent and not let him get to stab you, you would need to hit quite hard on important parts of the body so the knifeperson cant continue his attack, which he is defenitly able to when just hit lightly.
You can still effectively jab with blunt weapons. Use it as a check, then lever with your off hand to bring in a weighted right hook.
"Yeah, why don't you come over and say that to my face, tough guy?"
"Bonk!"
Another good training session 👊🏻 personally I would choose the knife even though it limits your range and maybe a real bat will be heavier and also slower to swing
I think it also matters that the guys whose chose the bat were both taller than the knife wielder, which means they also have a naturally longer reach, further compounding their range advantage.
But maybe there is a way to swing it that brings it back should you miss?
Any attack that leaves you exposed must be a sure thing.
I also like better range rather than speed.
Having higher range in sparring is an upper hand. A spear> a sword.
So an adult baseball bat is longer and heavier. More importantly it can be used two handed like a staff for thrusting attacks as well as double-ended attacks.
I would prefer the bat or a baton, small staff against a knife.
In a knife attack situation, the staff is much better for self defende, specially if you use Kali and Silat martial arts.
これがバットう術というやつか……。
Everyone seems like they have a lot of fun making these videos! 🖤💙
That prop bat is closer to a real baton than a real baseball bat
Which is fine by me. I always wanna see a more realistic showdown of the Donnie Yen vs Wu Jing fight scene in SPL Killzone, see how it gonna play out
And i got it here. Greatly appreciated
Just a little insight from Filipino martial arts. For a blunt weapon like a bat to hit hard it's mostly about speed, not distance traveled.
Speed can also be created by arcing attacks.
A skilled stick fighter can throw powerful attacks the same way a whip or the one inch punch generates power
The knifeman was too intenta on attacking the body. I think that once he had hold of the bat hand, he could hace attacked the arm to neutralizar the weapon, them get freedom to finish the opponent.
The weight of a bat is not that much to make it cumbersome in a fight. A wooden bat weighs maybe 29-36 ounces. Aluminum bats weigh even less. In the video the guy with the bat looks more like he’s trying to fence with it rather then using as a clubbing weapon. The bat has huge advantage. It can be held with two hands giving it much more power and with size simply turning wrist adds more powerful impact. It’s disadvantage is if missed with swing you can be open for counter attack. Also the knife is faster and can cut.
If you are not trained the bat is easier to attack and defend and it’s not even close. For someone who is trained the difference is smaller but the bat still has the advantage.
On a side the size of the “bat” makes it look more like he’s fighting with a baton which be a very different weapon then a bat
I apologize, but a fighter with a longer weapon (bat) who does not have the skill to take advantage of the weapon's length is not good fighter.
In our sparrings longer weapon wielder attacks legs (knees) or hands (especially with weapon) much more often than a head or other body parts.
really appreciate your content!
what do you think about inviting some longsword figher once again? it's really interesting to watch japanese schools of swordsmanship vs HEMA
The problem with every Kendo people I have sparred with is they all stop their attack at the front, they do not follow with the cut. Which is make a lot of mistakes when they use different weapons.
Slugger Style vs armed thug
Bro bat wins I’m hit a home runner with the knife attacker’s head.
is it just me or is that a smaller than average bat? like a baseball bat would be bigger or am i hallucinating?
Do long baseball bat vs sword
Each weapon has its advantages and disadvantages. I enjoyed watching this experiment
nah, bat is superior.....
Tbh if I had a knife and someone came at me with a 32 inch baseball bat, unlike the thing they claim is a bat in the video,
I would run for my life.
The bat is an underrated weapon!
tha best
If it were a real sized bat I would choose bat.
knife is a million times more lethal even if its short
We now need nunchucks vs different sized sticks and bats !!!
Mad Dog Style vs Slugger Style
Majima: Why not both ?!
Average London citizen vs Average New Yorker in a nutshell
とても面白い実験。動画の剣道家のバットの振り方は頭をちょんと叩く軽い打撃になるからあまり有効打とは言えないが、両手で持ってフルスイングした場合はバットの方が危険。特に袈裟斬りでフルスイングしたらかなり危ないね。袈裟斬りは避けにくいから。ただ、ナイフ持ちがバットスイングを見切って懐に入ることができたらナイフ持ちが有利だし、さらにナイフ持ちがヘルメットをかぶっていた場合、さらに有利になるね。対ナイフの場合、バットよりも警棒の方がいいね。軽いから素早く振れるし、小回りも利く。小手狙いもできる。
警察の逮捕術のようにこういう乱取りはどんどんやった方がいいね。いろいろと勉強になるわ。
Thank you very much for the video
longer reach will almost always win, it gives the user a huge advantage
When I was sparring amongst my friends, I was regularly forced to fall back to my sidearm knife, and most of the time, it served me better as a projectile
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Majima vs Majima?
Great sparring!
Fun
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If someone has a knife, and you have armor, you're still not safe. The single most salient point I ever learned in jujutsu was that someone that's good with a knife will know how to conceal it and you're not leaving without getting wounded, unless you can run faster than they can. I wouldn't engage anyone with a knife with anything shorter than a nuntibo or eku.
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Great video, and quality content! For me it gives an idea of how useful or not an expandable baton or bat can be agaist a knife with the right training. And none of that BS about catching the knife hand
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I think a bat is stronger, because at worst, you'll break some bone in the opponent before he beats you, and at best you'll break him too much that he can't fight you back.
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Why everyone forgets about throwing knife ??
A bat or a stick has 0 chance against knife especially throwing knife
대가리 알루미늄 배트 맞고 이미 기절, 칼은 리치가 짧음. 진짜 목숨 걸고 한번 해보길.
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근데 야구배트가 원래 저렇게 짧았나요? 저건 거의 경봉 수준인데..
The bat looks kind of short compared to a typical Louisville Slugger.
It does knot need to be a heavy baseball bat: even a light escrima stick will serve as well.
Surely in this kind of fight distance, timing are the most important things... and a longer reach is always welcome! 👍
Thank you for this video and your mind open to experiment: it's fun to train this way and it teaches a lot.
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I thought "a bat is kind of sjort isn't it? And fluffy. The wings they will break easily."
Bat guy very pasive. In fact, baseball bat Is a efectivo weapon againts blades for distance and power.
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If you have the bat you roar loudly ....swing first and smash!
Getting the feels of the second last fight scene with Wu Jing from Donnie Yen's SPL all over again watching this, although that was with a police baton which is probably less awkward to swing, twist and turn at speed than a real baseball bat.
Why does the clock say you are filming at 10 o’clock at night?
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if you give me a metal bat or a knife i would choose bat, range advantage but also the less skilled weapon (less risk)
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The plastic bat was always going to be better since the taller fighters chose chose it though did they have to use 2 hands with the bat though since it was light plastic 1 hand Technique would of been better since the free hand could then be used to stop or disarm the knife
4:17 - you guys noticed 22:11 on the clock or is it just me? (synchronised)
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some bat alloys are pretty light aluminm etc how about teating it like a baton shuveeling to thwe lrft or right or in circles while swining left and right
very fun😂 but man that’s a small ass bat, a long baton might do better against a knife
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What is that bat like weapon at 3:02 with the nunchunk thing hanging off the end?
This is not the way to use the bat.
Invite someone with pekiti skills
They specialize in sticks and knives
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I think between this two weapons, it depends on the user.
That's a kid size bat. The knife needs to be reduced down to a pocket knife
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you should try to stab with the bat. its a powerful attack in stick fighting
Big knife, almost short sword vs tiny toy bat and looks like bat still wins
another great and fun video by you folks as always, great to see
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Mais ce n'est pas comme ça que l'on se sert d'une batte ,c'est à 2 mains😤.
Je choisirais le couteau quand même 😽
Dagger is so dangerous. If you can not knock them down, they will just kill you.
So if you use bats or sticks, you should make sure every strike would disable the guy with knife,
Apparently you did this just like this is a scored sport. The Bat man hit the knife girl first, then the knife girl stopped, this is ridiculous if you just do it in real fightg, knife guys would not stop until you knock them down.You hit them first doesn't mean they don't have the ability to stab you.
Police baton vs Thief knife kinda
Just hit the hand not the body or head take advandatge of your reach
Give a real bat to a MLB player and see what can be done. 😂
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You are all so funny and charming
Thrusting a real bat to the face is effective
That's a small 38 inch aluminum bat
So basically Majima vs. Majima
Knives are stronger than bats
I love this channel 👍
Donnie Yen vs Wu Jing all over again lol
You should do katana vs bat.
Cool video, like always.
Oh look
Majima Goro's 2 preferred weapons in the Yakuza games
Isnt that bat too tiny...
커뮤니티 희대의 난제 빠따 vs 칼을
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