I was thinking it would've been cool to see the Saber vs Kendo. Now Im thinking how cool it is that the lightsabers can bridge that gap of nonlethal duels between styles. Now if only we can get more solidly made lightsabers
The problem with this kind of fencing is that usually is attack over defence, or who hits first: in real life, you'd always put defence over attack as there is no benefit if you can hit your opponent and get hit in return. This completely changes the dynamic of the fight. Great example of sabre sword fighting can be seen in "Potop-The deluge" (1974) and in "The Duellists" (1977)
I think Saber matches are the most beautiful to watch because they have a back-and-forth to them, like a sort of flowing momentum. With longswords, katana, etc the round is over in two seconds and you can't really tell what happened without slowmo.
It's very weird because while the katana got hyped up to cloud nine yet the sabre, another classy curved sword that served in war way longer than katana didn't get much attention
The thing about polish sabers is that they are actually cavalry weapons, they're a little long and heavy slightly hindering close in fighting, but great for reaching out and lopping off heads and limbs as you gallop by on horseback. I advise looking up "the deluge sword fight". It's a saber duel from an old polish movie and regarded as the closest to a real duel ever caught on film. It's carried out at full speed and at one point during filming an actor nearly died missing his parry.
@@56Seeker Samurai could be anything their daimyo needed them to be. Swordsmen, bowmen, spearmen, cavalry, It all varied on the needs and preference of their lord. The only commonality being they where a caste of professional soldiers you had to be born into.
@@56Seeker that's the thing though, they mostly fought from afar with ranged weapons(both bows and matchlocks/flintlocks) or acted as commanding officers in the back. When they did charge into battle on horseback, they used polearms most of the time as their sword was treated more as a sidearm and a weapon of last resort, like how a modern soldier carries a pistol. Swords weren't the main weapon of choice for the samurai so they never sought a need for a cavalry sword. The use of swords in feudal Japan were heavily romanticized by media as the weapon of the samurai when in reality, although used when needed, it was mostly just a badge of honor.
@@56SeekerTachi weigh the same as heavy cavalry sabers, about a kilo. Heavy for a one-handed sword on foot, but on horseback you want that extra reach and power. If you have to dismount and fight, using it 2-handed is much faster than 1 handed. Scholagladiatoria also recently made a video about using 2 handed weapons on horseback. As the japanese already knew how to use two handed weapons on horseback (bows, naginata, nodachi, spears) it's also totally possible for them in a cavalry vs cavalry situation to fight two handed with the sword, but you lose reach with this approach so it's not great for fighting infantrymen unless you have a really long weapon like a polearm or greatsword.
Sabers are actually exceptional all-rounder battlefield weapons. They provide a good mixture of reach and size, you can stab as well. The broad, hefty blade is also a boon as it allows for easier parries. There's a reason why the saber gradually took over Europe and replaced practically all other types of swords in service, even in the infantry.
the most common things that carries over regardless of your sword technique(or martial arts) background is 1) distance management 2) timing 3) reading opponents movements. all those three are learned separately from stance and actual striking techniques and those three are learned through experience and sparring. that's why if you give an experienced fighter a different weapon, or a different ruleset (unarmed combat), it's really easy for them to make adjustments and adapt to their new context.
I want to learn HEMA saber, but the only close HEMA center I could find didn't have any. My other pick was longsword which was flooded with demand, followed by kenjutsu or kendo, which never responded when we asked them when we could come for a trial. And fencing was my past hobby, which my timetable doesn't let me excercise anymore. In one word : Great.
Roworth has plenty of demonstration from the academy of historical fencing, and is reasonably simple. Hit that with solo study to begin with. Maybe some friends will also get interested. Branch out to more complex systems after.
There are probably hemaists at your local hema center who might be interested in learning with you, even if they do not know any or have any instructors.
The reason saber isn’t as popular is because there aren’t as much historical manuals on it. In fact, most of them come from the 19th to 20th century when the saber was mostly a cavalry weapon and was being phased out in favor of firearms. If you really want to do saber, I suggest studying Meyer’s dussack manual, which is similar enough to saber.
@@gamer7916 Absolutely not true. Unless are you referring specifically to early sabre sources such as polish sabre, it is the most well documented and arguably comprehensive style of swordsmanship to learn. The real reason it is not as popular is because the medieval period is more romanticized than the early modern era, so people tend to gravitate to longsword or even rapier but that's more renaissance than medieval. There are some of course more minor reasons as to why saber is also less popular but that's certainly the main one.
The saber is by far my favorite type of sword and really enjoyed the video. It was very interesting seeing how well someone trained in another system entirely could adapt and rather quickly as well.
For the people that are in comments learning about sword combat there are sword groups called sca and hema that I know of and for lightsaber combat there is light speed saber league, the saber league, and ludo in France I think. There are many more, Singapore has a league I think and many places in Facebook has training groups for sparring. I got into the rabbit hole of sword fighting so there are a lot just difficult to find
It looked like your instincts from practicing Kendo where hampering your ability with the sabre somewhat. Did much better in the dual at the end when it was kendo vs sabre fencing.
There are popular accounts of Montenegrin Aleksandar Lekso Saicic deuling a samurai in the Russo Japanese War, but the details provided are almost certainly fabricated.
No. But a Kendoka can Longsword. It's all about learning two handed martial arts for the most part. one handed martial arts can be done in kendo but its not as common.
Замечательный ролик! Очень здоров видеть, что европейские стили фехтования популярны также и там, где есть своя древняя традиция владения оружием. Польская сабля - очень серьезная вещь, против нее сложно работать )
Before watching: Yes, he/she would be very comfortable with the blade weight and geometry, and would use it effectively without any additional instructions. However this will be more or less true depending on how often they've trained with one hand solo. Understanding how to use a particular blade and having the muscle memory to be effective are totally separate. The best sabre wielders would be less than impressive if you made them use a Tachi instead.
But why i don't see gloves/gountlets etc on hands??? PPL protect yours hands. And this sabre (szabla) good looking but i feel like it's medium quality (or average)
My understanding is that this style of sword came from Central Asia, and then spread to South Asia, the Slavic world, the caliphate and then to European officers by Napoleon who got it from Egypt (the kilij, shamsir, saber, Mameluke etc). And separately, it spread to the US Marines thru a gift from the ottomans to a Marine officer that made it the official sword. My question is, what is the big deal about this style sword that it was adopted by so many militaries, and why is it that other curved swords didn't spread like this? (Like the cutlass and messer).
There's a lot of reasons as to why it became so popular but from what I know the main ones are: -it's a one-handed sword so it can be carried with no problems -despite this it can generate a lot of power in the swing - has a greater range than many other swords But most importantly: -the basics are very easy to teach which is incredibly valuable when you need to train up a guy for war, so let's take a guy for example and call him Mr. Expendable. So mr. Expendable has never seen a sword in his life but the country needs him on the frontlines yesterday. You can teach mr. Expendable the basics of sabre fighting in less than a week and ship him out, and if he survives he can pick up some more skill. When time and effort is key for the functioning of the military, having a super simple, cheap and effective system that trains a soldier just enough to survive but still produces top-tier duellists with time is insanely valuable. That's why so many armies settled on using it -
No hand protection on the weapon hand? That is a bold choice. p.s. not having protection on the rear hand is also bold, especially with such lack discipline.
The fear that can be instilled by a swordsman with a saber in his hand is nothing when compared to a dentist with a dental drill in his hand.
then we have fricking saber weilding dentists!
Dude just imagine the sound of that drill when it's turned on. Brrr the horror!
The light saber duel looks really good with the two different styles.
it was epic.
I was thinking it would've been cool to see the Saber vs Kendo.
Now Im thinking how cool it is that the lightsabers can bridge that gap of nonlethal duels between styles.
Now if only we can get more solidly made lightsabers
Count Dooku vs Anakin.
Anakin does Kendo vs Dooku HEMA saber fights lmao.
Really showed that a good fighter can use their basics to adapt to a different weapon and style
The problem with this kind of fencing is that usually is attack over defence, or who hits first: in real life, you'd always put defence over attack as there is no benefit if you can hit your opponent and get hit in return.
This completely changes the dynamic of the fight.
Great example of sabre sword fighting can be seen in "Potop-The deluge" (1974) and in "The Duellists" (1977)
Man, i like saber guy's style. Aggressiveness, feints, and continuity makes his style seem a lot more fun
I think Saber matches are the most beautiful to watch because they have a back-and-forth to them, like a sort of flowing momentum. With longswords, katana, etc the round is over in two seconds and you can't really tell what happened without slowmo.
I share the sentiment. Sabers are really fun to watch. You can tell whats going on and the movements flows really fluidly.
I agree. They’re the most viewer friendly.
There's something classy about sabers...
It's the curves.
@@rustycastle5397 That's the sexy part.
It's very weird because while the katana got hyped up to cloud nine yet the sabre, another classy curved sword that served in war way longer than katana didn't get much attention
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age…
Thats the reason why I like it the most haha😃
The thing about polish sabers is that they are actually cavalry weapons, they're a little long and heavy slightly hindering close in fighting, but great for reaching out and lopping off heads and limbs as you gallop by on horseback.
I advise looking up "the deluge sword fight". It's a saber duel from an old polish movie and regarded as the closest to a real duel ever caught on film. It's carried out at full speed and at one point during filming an actor nearly died missing his parry.
This is what I've never understood: weren't the samurai horsemen? How did they end up with a two handed sabre?
@@56Seeker Samurai could be anything their daimyo needed them to be. Swordsmen, bowmen, spearmen, cavalry, It all varied on the needs and preference of their lord. The only commonality being they where a caste of professional soldiers you had to be born into.
@@56Seeker that's the thing though, they mostly fought from afar with ranged weapons(both bows and matchlocks/flintlocks) or acted as commanding officers in the back. When they did charge into battle on horseback, they used polearms most of the time as their sword was treated more as a sidearm and a weapon of last resort, like how a modern soldier carries a pistol. Swords weren't the main weapon of choice for the samurai so they never sought a need for a cavalry sword. The use of swords in feudal Japan were heavily romanticized by media as the weapon of the samurai when in reality, although used when needed, it was mostly just a badge of honor.
@@56SeekerTachi weigh the same as heavy cavalry sabers, about a kilo. Heavy for a one-handed sword on foot, but on horseback you want that extra reach and power. If you have to dismount and fight, using it 2-handed is much faster than 1 handed.
Scholagladiatoria also recently made a video about using 2 handed weapons on horseback. As the japanese already knew how to use two handed weapons on horseback (bows, naginata, nodachi, spears) it's also totally possible for them in a cavalry vs cavalry situation to fight two handed with the sword, but you lose reach with this approach so it's not great for fighting infantrymen unless you have a really long weapon like a polearm or greatsword.
Sabers are actually exceptional all-rounder battlefield weapons. They provide a good mixture of reach and size, you can stab as well. The broad, hefty blade is also a boon as it allows for easier parries. There's a reason why the saber gradually took over Europe and replaced practically all other types of swords in service, even in the infantry.
You don't even realise how happy I am that you are enjoying part of my country's culture (saber)
The ending was very impressive, the sound/light effects where a great touch!
You really got a feel for the sabre quickly. Good work.
the most common things that carries over regardless of your sword technique(or martial arts) background is 1) distance management 2) timing 3) reading opponents movements. all those three are learned separately from stance and actual striking techniques and those three are learned through experience and sparring. that's why if you give an experienced fighter a different weapon, or a different ruleset (unarmed combat), it's really easy for them to make adjustments and adapt to their new context.
As a hema guy the fact that you're not wearing any gloves makes me anxious< I love sparing with sabers good to see that your having fun.
I want to learn HEMA saber, but the only close HEMA center I could find didn't have any.
My other pick was longsword which was flooded with demand, followed by kenjutsu or kendo, which never responded when we asked them when we could come for a trial. And fencing was my past hobby, which my timetable doesn't let me excercise anymore.
In one word : Great.
Roworth has plenty of demonstration from the academy of historical fencing, and is reasonably simple. Hit that with solo study to begin with. Maybe some friends will also get interested. Branch out to more complex systems after.
There are probably hemaists at your local hema center who might be interested in learning with you, even if they do not know any or have any instructors.
The reason saber isn’t as popular is because there aren’t as much historical manuals on it. In fact, most of them come from the 19th to 20th century when the saber was mostly a cavalry weapon and was being phased out in favor of firearms. If you really want to do saber, I suggest studying Meyer’s dussack manual, which is similar enough to saber.
@@gamer7916 Absolutely not true. Unless are you referring specifically to early sabre sources such as polish sabre, it is the most well documented and arguably comprehensive style of swordsmanship to learn.
The real reason it is not as popular is because the medieval period is more romanticized than the early modern era, so people tend to gravitate to longsword or even rapier but that's more renaissance than medieval. There are some of course more minor reasons as to why saber is also less popular but that's certainly the main one.
Hard to learn saner due to the fact that it is not that popular. almost everybody wants to learn longsword...
The saber is by far my favorite type of sword and really enjoyed the video. It was very interesting seeing how well someone trained in another system entirely could adapt and rather quickly as well.
For the people that are in comments learning about sword combat there are sword groups called sca and hema that I know of and for lightsaber combat there is light speed saber league, the saber league, and ludo in France I think. There are many more, Singapore has a league I think and many places in Facebook has training groups for sparring. I got into the rabbit hole of sword fighting so there are a lot just difficult to find
It must be so tricky and frustrating to temporarily switch from a two handed weapon to a one handed weapon!
Seems like it's true that a red crystal can sometimes break other lightsabers :D
Lovely and genuine people, great guests!
You know I do like the style of the 1821 light & the heavy cavalry swords
When I started watching this channel it has 9k subscribers, now you're up to 90k! Well done, and keep up the good work!
What an ending! You never see that in Star Wars.
Saber fighting with the hand behind the back is so damn elegant
Love you, guys! Awesome unique content
It looked like your instincts from practicing Kendo where hampering your ability with the sabre somewhat. Did much better in the dual at the end when it was kendo vs sabre fencing.
finally a light saber duel without the fancy bullshit moves
WHEN THE WINGGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
Excellent you try all this out , good to have open minded fighters 👍🏻
Omg yes! A polish sabre!
That's actually my favorite sword for friendly sparring
this is more realistic than the fights we see in Star War
if you were surpried by how curved a saber is, what would you think of a scimitar?
very fun to see one hand vs two hand lightsaber :)
saber is sick, glad you guys are branching a little out into hema yourselves :)
Im learninf some hema saber, but breaking that lightsaber was crazy
6:20 Hello there!
did not expect it to start with a dentist came to our dojo
the saber guy right hand is too strong.
The kendo guy got problem even to grip properly after the impact
That last part is basically makashi vs shien/djem so
Love your channel. Thank you.
U should try hussar's saber definitely one of the best if not actually the best
Great. Thanks for sharing this.
I remember of an event in which a russian sabreur defeated a japanese swordman,i don't remember which war though.
There are popular accounts of Montenegrin Aleksandar Lekso Saicic deuling a samurai in the Russo Japanese War, but the details provided are almost certainly fabricated.
No. But a Kendoka can Longsword.
It's all about learning two handed martial arts for the most part. one handed martial arts can be done in kendo but its not as common.
Ohh, the guy is going to swordfish?! That is awesome.
The lightsaber duel - makashi vs djem so! xD
Замечательный ролик! Очень здоров видеть, что европейские стили фехтования популярны также и там, где есть своя древняя традиция владения оружием.
Польская сабля - очень серьезная вещь, против нее сложно работать )
its interresting that kendo guy holds properly his hand on a hip when the other keeps it dangerously in front :)
The light saber fight is nice! Almost like in Star Wars!
Very cool with the light sabres
When i was a teen I did Jang Song Kum Do which is Korean but i never see it mentioned on this channel
You should try the longsword and kreigsmesser as they're the closest handling European swords to katana.
I thought it's Uncle Roger! 😆
Preparing for duel against Jamie Oliver ✌️
Seriously though, quite exciting vid.
The lightsabers are a nice addition 👌👌👌
3:24😏I was like...😬🤣🤣
Before watching: Yes, he/she would be very comfortable with the blade weight and geometry, and would use it effectively without any additional instructions. However this will be more or less true depending on how often they've trained with one hand solo. Understanding how to use a particular blade and having the muscle memory to be effective are totally separate. The best sabre wielders would be less than impressive if you made them use a Tachi instead.
But why i don't see gloves/gountlets etc on hands??? PPL protect yours hands. And this sabre (szabla) good looking but i feel like it's medium quality (or average)
Лихо! Молодцы, ребята и девчонка!!
The light saber duels should be looked more into,, you just have to get higher rated battle sabers that can withstand abuse. looked very cool !!
I have to be honest; from the thumbnail image, it looked like PM Justin Trudeau holding a sword. lol
Awesome content, more HEMA please!
This is so amazing!
lol I was waiting for them to break. :)
Can you do the Kyu Gunto in one of your videos?
It's a sabre with katana blade. The fighting style is still the same
@@jaketheasianguy3307 still gonna look cool
Great duel.
Oooh so this is where that clip is from
Greetings from Poland!
Hmm...very different footwork in this style.
Reminds me of the forbidden blade arts from Capoeira.
Truly wonderful 👏
И тут она поняла, что всю жизнь тренировалась не с тем ножиком...😁
Is so cool!
My understanding is that this style of sword came from Central Asia, and then spread to South Asia, the Slavic world, the caliphate and then to European officers by Napoleon who got it from Egypt (the kilij, shamsir, saber, Mameluke etc). And separately, it spread to the US Marines thru a gift from the ottomans to a Marine officer that made it the official sword. My question is, what is the big deal about this style sword that it was adopted by so many militaries, and why is it that other curved swords didn't spread like this? (Like the cutlass and messer).
There's a lot of reasons as to why it became so popular but from what I know the main ones are:
-it's a one-handed sword so it can be carried with no problems
-despite this it can generate a lot of power in the swing
- has a greater range than many other swords
But most importantly:
-the basics are very easy to teach which is incredibly valuable when you need to train up a guy for war, so let's take a guy for example and call him Mr. Expendable. So mr. Expendable has never seen a sword in his life but the country needs him on the frontlines yesterday. You can teach mr. Expendable the basics of sabre fighting in less than a week and ship him out, and if he survives he can pick up some more skill. When time and effort is key for the functioning of the military, having a super simple, cheap and effective system that trains a soldier just enough to survive but still produces top-tier duellists with time is insanely valuable. That's why so many armies settled on using it
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Great video
Very cool. I like it
That fun video 👍👍
Anyone else get nervous for saber guys fingers?
No hand protection on the weapon hand? That is a bold choice.
p.s. not having protection on the rear hand is also bold, especially with such lack discipline.
Ah yes, *(TRAUMA)*
Polish Saber... The best saber of all.
it did look highly polished
Yes saber is great but rapier is more stylish loveeee its sword blade and hilts
Best in terms of what? If practicality, then British saber goes all the way. The protective hand guard is extremely useful
@@zuyrie Rapier has no stoping power. All form, no practical utylity.
@@jozefkozon4520 Geroge Silver! What are you doing in these TH-cam comments in the year of our lord 2022?
Where can you buy such a lightsaber??
セイバーと刀の決闘を作ろう！ 私は長い間、サムライがサーベルの剣士に対して同等か、それとも強すぎるか知りたいと思っていました (私は日本語を話せず、Google 翻訳を使用しているため、私の発音が適切に伝わらない場合はご容赦ください) )
They are korean. Then they'll translate japanese to korean with google.
New Upload moment
well, since katana ARE sabers, they should.
Great. Now use a claymore
Neat!!
Very cool
awesome
Why are dojos named a certain way lol. The saber is heavy on the wrist.
the westerners katana
Um no the cutlass isn't a saber it's own breed of short curved sword usually with a lot more involved guard than a saber
Is that cousin Roger?
Try a shashka instead of a saber!
You're holding it wrong! Everyone knows you hold a polish sabre by the blade and strike with the handle.
🙂
Captain Jack Sparrow
知らないと思いますが、明治時代 剣道高段者の人(名前亡失)がヨーロッパで、フェンシングのヨーロッパチャンピオンと戦って負けたそうです!、世界一強い武闘家は居ても、世界一強い武道はありません。
テコンドーと言う武道がありますが(知っていますか?)、足技が多く長剣や反った刀を持って戦うには無理があります。
テコンドーは、両足を大地にしっかりと固定して、切る動作より軽快に動き回り、突く動作のほうが実践的です。
朝鮮の昔の武士の絵を見ると、反りについては分かりませんが短めの刀です。
韓国には山岳地形がたくさんあります。 したがって、ナイフよりも長距離武器がより効果的です。木が多い山岳の特性もあるので刀を挙げると盾兵中心です。そして南の海賊を相手にする場合でなければ北方の騎馬民族の相手が多いので、自然に弓をより好むしかありません。テコンドーは最近出てきた武術だろうが、根源の蹴り技術は地形や使用武器から来る自然な発展です。
SABER forge Kendo
GOOD LUCK WITH SWORDFISH
polska gurom
Machacie jak cepami ;)
вы настолко смешьны но из ткруга войны выдит один воин))))
Jej ale szablą tak sie nie walczy
а вся ваша возня русским не итересно))