I loved you work since your first video! I hope you can produce a continuation to this documentary series. I would love to know more about the Stormblood and Shadowbringers developement, as well as how the Square Enix team reacted to the huge player increase in 2020 and 2021.
now, whenever you roll your eyes at at pun, you can put a face on who to blame: Koji "Pun Master" Fox But then again, he is also to blame for things like: "Grade 3 Skybuilders' Hemp: Compared to the grade 2 variety, this is the good shite" or "Grade 3 Skybuilders' Stew: The grade 3 stew contains ingredients with names other than "dunno" or "not sure but it was definitely dead when I threw it in"
' "If you took away my paper, I would write on my heart. If you took away my ink, I would write on the wind. ...It wouldn't be an ideal way to work." ─Unknown author, dreamweaver, visionary, plus actor ' - Grade 3 Skybuilders' Ink
*"Something's wrong with Koji's face, why doesn't he look like a corporative android? Why do his voice doesn't sound monotone and robotlike? Are devs allowed to be human?"*
You probably wouldn't be wrong. I remember a very old interview from around the 1.2 content when we got the primals. Soken mentioned being on the train coming up with Garuda's theme and making all these sounds with his mouth. I don't remember clearly but I think he mentions getting stares. lol
Yoshi-P even references that moment later at Soken's Fan Fest tearjerker, and it's so surreal seeing him saying it before all that. Even how Soken was doing the AV work, setting up the mikes for it, etc.
@@whyareyoubothering If you listen to the song he wrote through chemo (To the Edge), it really sounds like he thought it might’ve been the last one he wrote. Just listen to the lyrics, and you might get the same feeling
Yoshida-san is so fucking cool dude. He's punk rock, professional as the devil, and REALLY fucking good at his job. The man is actually a real life Chad.
He's a gamer that managed to find his way to being a producer for games he'd want to play. I really wish he'd get his chance to make a Dark Souls inspired game, like maybe we get a Dark Souls raid series similar to Nier.
Whilst Yoshi-p himself doesn't like to be called such, it's by no means hyberbolic to say that he saved the game, and the company's reputation. He is deserving of the lavish praise given to him by fans, because without him stepping in, it wasn't just the final fantasy brand that was at stake. The entire company could have taken an irreparable hit, and was facing serious financial hardship thanks to 1.0's failure.
Heck, even the OG founder of the FF franchise has been playing it recently and on his way to Stormblood already. Seems to be excited to catch up for Endwalker.
@@1LuvMLPFiM He's already in Shadowbringers as we speak lmao, he's addicted and if that doesn't tell you how deserving of praise Yoshi P has gotten, the FATHER of FF is addicted to his game, then nothing will
IIRC Square Enix was already going through some hard times due to the fact that they invested a ton of money into the Crystal Tools engine which ended up being a complete nightmare to work with which led to quite a lot of their staff leaving causing games like Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy 15 so suffer because of it. It was a cock-up cascade of epic proportions for Square Enix around that time. Much respect to Yoshi-p and his team for their work with FFXIV, but they aren't the only thing that saved the company's reputation. Not by a long shot
Preach not too long ago would've never thought of saying "We have to go play some of the old ones, man!" I'm so happy for all the content creators and many other players broadening their views and scanning for new adventures to experience! Much as I myself learned to slow down and enjoy the journey, even if it happened overtime after clearing the entire MSQ. It's so important and something a lot of us had forgotten.
50:50 Speaking of the goodwill this created. Look at this documentary, look at how emotional people still get not even watching it the first time but on multiple viewings, thankful for the effort of their devs. It's an insane effort but it paid off like crazy. Very few players I know don't know the history of this game and those that know it, gained a deeper appreciation for the game and its developers through it. And this goodwill has lasted many years, thanks to the solid foundation of their effort, but also by keeping with their new philosophies over these years.
its gotten to the point where, im aso tempered by ff14, just watching this doc makes me emotional. i think the next step is becoming a yoship shaped egi
In the endwalker media tour he was asked by jesse cox if the rumours of him being a primal and tempering everyone were true,and he replied that the japanese playerbase says that too, but he isnt a primal and doesnt want to temper anyone
@@dafire9634 i yea, i saw that. issue is, its not him that's the primal. he's like the summoner of the primal(or maybe a more spoiler thing that i wont say). ff14 is the primal itself, sustained by the the fervent work and prayer from the devs and community around the world. he's just as tempered as everyone else.
Koji is such an awesome influence on the game, not only did he play a major role in FF14 rebirth but he also formed a band (The Primals) with Yoshi and the other Devs who tour and play the music of the game, that's freaking rad.
@@tusharrathore6330 Guess it was our first NES. We played the first four 8-bit FFs together. They also showed up on Gameboy, and are on the Play store now, as you pointed out.
@@Flatunello …first four? FFIV was 16-bit and FFII and FFIII were not even released in the west until much later (on the PlayStation and Nintendo DS respectively).
I think the only reason why Yoichi Wada made the decision to accept option B was because he already knew his foot was out the door with the company. The company lost massive amounts of money that year and he was going to be force out of the company... so he thought to himself.. I have nothing really to lose so why not. This way I can atleast do my part to save the company and streer it in a better directions before I am forced out. And it wasn't him saving his own skin and just ditching or spitefulness. Yoichi Wada staked his own reputation on the line as well making many many public appearences with Naoki Yoshida making sure people knew he was involved with the decision making and that if it had failed he was going down with it. It was a bold move and one I don't think we would see from a company like Blizzard or Activision.
This came out years ago and the best part is that everyone you see in this video is still with the company now. Having a consistent dev team that cares is really what sets FFXIV apart imo.
This is an example of team tunnel vision, corporate momentum, and cultural arrogance giving rise to a willingness to not even peek at the assembled whole. They should have had periodic proof builds to test features, even if disconnected, to see the whole rather than just trying to describe the elephant from the perspective of seven blind men.
I hope the NoClip channel can produce a continuation to this documentary series. I would love to know more about the Stormblood and Shadowbringers developement, as well as how the Square Enix team reacted to the huge player increase in 2020 and 2021.
I played the original FF on NES when it was released. Was my 1st RPG. Hooked instantly. Also played FFXI on PS2 w/hardrive. Again, loved it. 1st MMORPG I had played. FFXIV was announced and I pre-ordered the collector's edition for PC. Was very sluggish but I still found enjoyment in it. Became a legacy player by sticking with it and got to add my name to the credits. "Ancientsxi Zenwolf" is the name. Pre-ordered Endwalker as well, I can always count on Yoshi P to make a great game 😀
FF11 was a very similar tale of 14's rebirth. The original FF11 was basically everquest levels of punishing, nothing you can solo, nothing you can afford, nothing you can attain, unless you grinded for months in groups. Then that expansion came out and made it a lot more solo friendly and stuff like unlocking Summoners summons (You had to beat tough raids basically) or even some classes like Samurai wasn't impossible for everybody but the top tier guilds anymore.
FFXI was one beast of a game. There's no other game like it. It was brutal, punishing, dangerous, and everyone was on the same boat. Reputation was important. The community would know the who's who on the server. I'm glad XIV didn't become XI-2.
I remember being 17 and spending all my after high school time playing that game (i've played for around 15 years total in the end sheesh..). That game gave me friends for life, and even though i can understand the argument that it didn't respect player's time etc, i still had the best experience i've ever had in a video game. That game taught me english as well, since it wasn't available in French when i started playing. Having a special set of skills that made you, the player, good at a certain job, having that "reputation" as you said, was really thrilling. I'm glad the game is still around, i sometimes go there and chat with the unrelentless people that still play.
@@girodleo31 15 years? Damn! Way longer than me. What broke my Galka's back was Mee Degi the Punisher. I went 0/32 on that NM. The reputation thing was real. I didn't realize it until one day I was invited to join a Japanese party. The one guy who could speak English said his friends heard about me and wanted to see for themselves if the stories were true about this "Galka PLD from NA." Long story short, they concluded that the stories of me were true - I could do a merit party better than a NIN tank. I met a lot of players who learned English from XI. One guy in particular, a German fella, by the time I quit, learned English better than the native English speakers! It was awesome! XI was the first time I ever had to use French when I got invited to a French party. It was still difficult because Canadian french is so different from french spoken in France. Oh the memories!
In the endwalker media tour he was asked by jesse cox if the rumours of him being a primal and tempering everyone were true,and he replied that the japanese playerbase says that too, but he isnt a primal and doesnt want to temper anyone
A thing to keep in mind that the things Yoshi P critics wasn't just about FFXIV. It was the direction SE was going in general. 13, 14, 15 supported some incredible cinematics and later updates of 14 showed it was a very pretty game once it could run. But the focus on graphics was taking over on what SE was focusing on. Honestly since 7 it's what gamers knew them by. Up to FFXII they released popular titles to hits. 13 declined with each game in the series in gameplay and story quality, 14 had it's present issues and 15 was carrying much of the principles 13 followed since it was originally intended to be part of the 13 series. 5 major titles that ranged from bombs to mediocre. While 14 was the only one losing money, those 5 games were expensive and SE didn't make back nearly as much as they projected and the reviews for each of them sometimes being even worse. Yoshi P wouldn't just end up saving FFXIV and its why so many fans hold him in such high regards. Sure he makes mistakes too but he's generally very transparent and will own up to those mistakes too. Which just makes more people love the guy or at least appreciate what he has done with the franchise.
This documentary morale is not just for the gaming company but also all type of companies and jobs. Yoshida views is, If customers are happy they will keep coming and be our free advertisement and if we be the customer we can see what is wrong with our products and what need to be fixes. So he spent years upon years just to fix this game and now become one of the most popular mmorpg and possible revive the mmorpg genres.
I never get bored watching this 3 part series. They did the impossible and will NEVER be replicated again, no other company has the balls to pull it off... no other company has a Yoshi-P.
The original 1.0 version FFXIV actually improved so much after Yoshi P took over. So many changes to the game that ARR should have been labled ver.5.0 not 2.0... and by the end 1.0 was a very playable and enjoyable game. I have so many amazing memories and it was so much fun. But ARR is still the vastly superior game.
33:25 whooo the ol' Boi remembers coaxial cables for networking. That was IPX/SPX before TCP/IP(What ya'all would consider IPv4 as normal) (BNC is the connect, Coax is the cable itself)
And now IPv4 is being phased out for IPv6. We running out of IP Addresses on IPv4 since it's 32 bit can only generate 4.3 billion addresses. That's less than the world population of by nearly half. IPv6 is a 128-bit addressing system so in theory that can do 340 undecillion addresses. That's is 1^36 numbers of zeros. That should last for a long long time. Way more than IPv4 lasted.
I hope that the devs being "we realized it was not good" is a wake up call to people about how game development is most of the time you KNOW there are issues but it's very rare to have the time or leadership to fix it around in time or post
i genuinely hope to see a documentary done like this for wow. ff14 proves that no matter how bad your game is, you can always revive it. and no matter how bad wow is today, it IS still very much playable and has many things to enjoy, it just needs people with passion to lead it.
One thing I feel compelled to say, the Market boards of 1.0 were terrible in terms of functionality and the looks were very basic, but the idea behind it was hella cool. Now that we have a real market board I wouldn't hate seeing the market row return as a novelty, maybe with the retainers having an actual shop in front of then, like a rug with random items on them.
I was an avid FFXI player and later in that journey I started playing wow unlike a lot of my friends. While completely change my perspective about what an MMO was supposed to be. And I was excited for the follow-up to final fantasy 11 because shortly the devs would have learned and paid attention to current offerings. But that wasn't the case. They even had a quest that made a joke about how jumping wasn't necessary. All of my frustrations from final fantasy 11 bubbled up because Tanaka had a history of deciding that he and his team knew better than what the players wanted and just doing that. It actually reminds me a lot of how WOW is now. After a few months I just had to quit because I couldn't suffer through another final fantasy 11 but more poorly optimized. I had just lived through burning crusade and Wrath of the lich King. Two of arguably the best expansions of any game ever at that point. I just couldn't do it
One of the things that cemented me playing FF14 in the early days starting out watching lots of FF14 content creator vids in research was people in various video comments referencing the FF14 documentary that I had never heard of spellbound to WoW. I had bought and played the game on launch day, quit on first day it was so bad an experience. It was watching the documentary with great interest that turned things around for me just starting out as I was just trying out the game.
17:43 With Koji talking about how each team was proud of the parts they contributed but none of it really worked well with each other reminded me of how Blizzard's team were proud of the little bits that the individuals added to Shadowlands. Made me think Blizzard is repeating the mistakes of FFXIV 1.0 but they seem to refuse to want to learn from it as a mistake.
Hiromichi Tanaka was the one responsible for this mess. He literally did nothing to organize the mess that was the dev of FFXIV. I personally think he should have stepped down before the game's released but his fucking ego got in the way and almost killed SE. He later used the excuse that he was ill. If that was true he should have just stepped aside and have SE delay the launch....
When I went into animation school, one of my teachers used the phrase "You can't polish a turd". When I went into the industry, the boss was like "Yeah, but 90% of our job is basically turd polishing."
Oh please do play some of the old ones. FF1 (GBA version), FF3 (3D version), FF4 (complete collection), FF6, FF9, FF12 (Zodiac Age)... FF Tactics and FF Tactics Advanced. Are some of my favorites. FF Crystal Chronicles is also pretty good according to my friend but not the PC version apparently it's missing some original features. I mean they're all good in there own right!
I participated in Alpha 1 Phase 1 of 1.0.... the battle system was EVEN WORSE than what was shown in the documentary. It was the first and only time the dev team listened to feedback before release. Also it required a dual core processor. But it had to be two physical cores. Some players were only running 1 core with hyperthreading and the game would not work with that setup. The reason for the second core? The UI. The entire UI was a separate thread and felt entirely separate from the game. There was just SO MUCH wrong.
Like Koji, I also started my primary MMO experience with FFXI. I'd seen WoW and played like 5min of it prior but didn't really want to get into it at the time. Then I saw FFXI at Software Etc and thought "eh why not?". Little did I know, that would be the drug that hooked me into the MMO genre. To this day, there has never been an experience quite like it, for better or worse. FFXI is still a game I play today. FFXIV 1.0 comes out and... I liked it? I think I liked the concept, more than the execution. It tried to recreate the unnecessary difficulties of FFXI. The fatigue system was something even FFXI didn't dare do, outside of fishing (but that was due to their attempts to counter bots). The thing was a huge mess. That lag though... that lag was so fucking infuriating. There was no fucking auction house lol. How the fuck do you go from a working and fully functional AH in FFXI, to nothing but bazaars that don't work properly!? LOL! For those of us that continued to play, we saw there was something good there. Like you're seeing the diamond in an ocean of shit. Something that will change everything. Then Yoshi-P came along and actually fixed shit over time. He actually made the ocean of shit not so thick with it. The game was fucking playable. It didn't suck as much ass just to spend time on it. Like you didn't question as yourself as much if you're just stupid for playing it lol. Then came the communication. A level of communication that put the old blue posts by Blizzard to shame. Now, as a Legacy player that stuck with it, I get to celebrate my time with 1.0 in current FFXIV with permanently reduced subscription fees and other benefits. I sincerely believe a lot of the sway behind the decision to give us those things (especially the reduced fees) came from the man himself, Yoshi-P, and possibly those around him who worked so hard on the games. For all the work these people put in, they deserve all the respect people give them. They also deserve fair criticism for their fuck ups, but always with that level of respect they've rightly earned.
This is such an excellent documentary. I've watched it like three or four times now. Koji was right, though. Long grinds on a handful of the same mobs, loss of XP... that was common at the time FFXI was released. It was the way Everquest did it, and that was the big MMO at the time XI was being developed. So the idea that you can level off mobs and quests solo was still not really a part of MMOs and wouldn't be until WoW.
I think one of the little things that sort of saved it from going as badly as it could have, was in Koji's statement about the fan reaction to the game, where he's pointing out that while he loves the devs, if he were on the outside, playing this game at home, he'd be having much the same reaction. Almost no company would be willing to admit that they had fucked things up that bad, but as SE, they pretty much immediately went to, "Guys, we fucked this up. We should absolutely not have released the game like this. We need to make it right. Can we make it right?"
The fact of a company actually living up to and announcing failure, apologizing for it, is very refreshing. If it were blizzard it would never be an actual apology. You never hear a sorry. It's always some bullshit starting with "We understand and have heard the concerns" or "Despite issues we are currently facing, we are proud of the release" of some shit like Warcraft 3 reforged. It's always evasive PR speak to make it sound like they've done nothing wrong.
10 years later for them, 8 for us the players since ffxiv ARR launch. FF14 has become their most profitable Final Fantasy to date thanks to the man the myth the legend Yoshi P.
I remember that I watched a video with a guy called Mike B a.k.a Fony and he did some pre release stuff for the first FF14. When they interviewed the devs and they asked "why can't you jump" the response was something like "because it's stupid". Then he played some demo and within a few screens he saw a copy & paste of the same roads and rocks I knew to avoid that shit. Ironically new world has copy & paste cities and towns and the pvp lags like crazy. Funny that.
Oh man, if you're going to play the old FF games I cannot recommend 6 enough, it's fantastic. 1, 3, and 5 are generic (not much for story) but solid, 3 and 5 kinda go nuts with the jobs so I enjoyed them quite a bit. 4 is ok, has a decent story and is a big source of inspiration for Endwalker but it didn't really stand out to me. 2 sucks. From 7 and beyond they start using 3d graphics and they're all good. Everyone has their favorite, oftentimes it's the first one played. If going for one of those just pick what looks/sounds the most interesting; some are more realistic while others are more high fantasy, some stories are more political while others have more romance. The variety is one of the main reasons I enjoy the series so much, they never say "hey this game sold well let's copy/paste it with a few tweaks and call it good". (Well they did make sequels and remakes but each original game is very much its own.) Every game reworks the combat system, very few re-use characters.
Holy.... I've seen this documentary a bunch but how did I miss the Hildibrand FFXIV 1.0 footage. I wish they would re release parts of the old game (namely the quests) but with the updated system so we could experience it.
And it's easier than ever to plan a trip in and around the city. And depending on which prefecture you plan on visiting, you won't need to use much Japanese.(hint:The closer you are to Okinawa/Yokohama, the more English you can use)
I've watched this doc a few times now. At first I thought it was an amazing, triumphant comeback and all was good in the world. It's still amazing that they pulled it back, but they had no excuse for the original being this bad. This isn't a small dev team, it's final fantasy. Kinda sad seeing how hard giants can fall. We need more Yoshi P's, less arrogant companies and less apologists when their favourite companies make such terrible mistakes.
I pre-ordered FFXIV 1.0, but barely got to play it. Every time Hideyuki talks about the game's heavy use of scripts, I shudder. Despite meeting the game's requirements, my computer could barely run it. I wasn't even able to reach the gameplay and content failings of the game because it was so terribly optimized I couldn't even play it.
Hello everyone o/ Been playing FFXIV for 2 years at this point. My character is "Ash Cat" on the server Courel. I left WoW at the start of BFA. What I love about FF is the game isn't a race to endgame its all about the journey. Veteran players and new players are rewarded for playing together, You have side activities that don't effect character power what so ever. All of these are what I want in an MMORPG. Also onto the combat. I know alot of WoW players are turned off by the longer GCD. Let me tell you right now you won't miss it. I actually much prefer it. So for example a trial in FFXIV (essentially a boss fight) is played out more like a dance. You can see the boss patterns to learn the attacks and move accordingly. I highly encourage anyone to atleast give the free demo a try :) Just remember it's not a race to endgame take your time embrace the narrative nature of the game and get lost in the world of Final Fantasy!
Pick one: Patch the game or patch the game while remaking it from the ground up in less than half the time it takes to make an MMO. It is a goddamn miracle they let him go along with plan B.
that would be awesome if you played the older titles Preach, I'd recommend to start FFIV, V, the VI they are not connected, but a great intro.... then... then ... do FFVII, YES!!!!
WoW "fall" is over 10 years after the launch though. It was a slow gradual decline as well. Completely uncomparable to the flaming dumpster fire that 1.0 was.
Speaking of just patching a game to be MEH its MEH but ill still play cause im a sucker...... the brand damage done to Blizzard as a whole due to their treatment of not just wow but their employees..... Diablo4 was the only game ive looked forward to in a long time and they just put a wow dev in charge of it..... I already was on the fence about just calling shadowlands my last blizzard product but they fact the entire wow team hasnt just been fired yet..... yea a lot of the issues with the game design are coming from above so its not really the programmers faults. but they have been working under a flawed mindset for too long to think outside of the box and to make anything good. they just keep rehashing the same shit. reskin items, reskin mounts, reskin toys, reskin daily quest, reskin world quests, reskinned bosses. The next wow expansion might as well just be called WoW: Copy Paste
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I loved you work since your first video!
I hope you can produce a continuation to this documentary series. I would love to know more about the Stormblood and Shadowbringers developement, as well as how the Square Enix team reacted to the huge player increase in 2020 and 2021.
now, whenever you roll your eyes at at pun, you can put a face on who to blame: Koji "Pun Master" Fox
But then again, he is also to blame for things like:
"Grade 3 Skybuilders' Hemp: Compared to the grade 2 variety, this is the good shite" or
"Grade 3 Skybuilders' Stew: The grade 3 stew contains ingredients with names other than "dunno" or "not sure but it was definitely dead when I threw it in"
' "If you took away my paper, I would write on my heart. If you took away my ink, I would write on the wind.
...It wouldn't be an ideal way to work."
─Unknown author, dreamweaver, visionary, plus actor '
- Grade 3 Skybuilders' Ink
*"Something's wrong with Koji's face, why doesn't he look like a corporative android? Why do his voice doesn't sound monotone and robotlike? Are devs allowed to be human?"*
45:37 Soken, the realest. I can imagine him going straight from that meeting to grab a guitar and to go write Under the Weight.
The fact he worked through chemo, also makes it believable that he went straight to writing. The dude is a monster of a musician.
You probably wouldn't be wrong. I remember a very old interview from around the 1.2 content when we got the primals. Soken mentioned being on the train coming up with Garuda's theme and making all these sounds with his mouth. I don't remember clearly but I think he mentions getting stares. lol
Yoshi-P even references that moment later at Soken's Fan Fest tearjerker, and it's so surreal seeing him saying it before all that. Even how Soken was doing the AV work, setting up the mikes for it, etc.
@@whyareyoubothering If you listen to the song he wrote through chemo (To the Edge), it really sounds like he thought it might’ve been the last one he wrote. Just listen to the lyrics, and you might get the same feeling
@@someclevername8167 yeah man, to the edge hits so goddamn harder when you have the context of how it was written
Little known fact, Yoshi Ps rings actually contain the Infinity Stones, thats how he was able to save the game.
Yoshida-san is so fucking cool dude. He's punk rock, professional as the devil, and REALLY fucking good at his job. The man is actually a real life Chad.
He's a gamer that managed to find his way to being a producer for games he'd want to play.
I really wish he'd get his chance to make a Dark Souls inspired game, like maybe we get a Dark Souls raid series similar to Nier.
@@CrashB111 Honestly I could see Hidetaka Miyazaki (Dark Souls director) being up for that, since the man's a massive nerd (in a good way)
Whilst Yoshi-p himself doesn't like to be called such, it's by no means hyberbolic to say that he saved the game, and the company's reputation. He is deserving of the lavish praise given to him by fans, because without him stepping in, it wasn't just the final fantasy brand that was at stake. The entire company could have taken an irreparable hit, and was facing serious financial hardship thanks to 1.0's failure.
Heck, even the OG founder of the FF franchise has been playing it recently and on his way to Stormblood already. Seems to be excited to catch up for Endwalker.
@@1LuvMLPFiM He's already in Shadowbringers as we speak lmao, he's addicted and if that doesn't tell you how deserving of praise Yoshi P has gotten, the FATHER of FF is addicted to his game, then nothing will
@@xS1D3SW1P3x Link to his Twitter?
@@1LuvMLPFiM He's been playing like a demon and gone through the entire MSQ while taking snapshots and following the story.
IIRC Square Enix was already going through some hard times due to the fact that they invested a ton of money into the Crystal Tools engine which ended up being a complete nightmare to work with which led to quite a lot of their staff leaving causing games like Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy 15 so suffer because of it. It was a cock-up cascade of epic proportions for Square Enix around that time. Much respect to Yoshi-p and his team for their work with FFXIV, but they aren't the only thing that saved the company's reputation. Not by a long shot
Preach not too long ago would've never thought of saying "We have to go play some of the old ones, man!"
I'm so happy for all the content creators and many other players broadening their views and scanning for new adventures to experience!
Much as I myself learned to slow down and enjoy the journey, even if it happened overtime after clearing the entire MSQ. It's so important and something a lot of us had forgotten.
50:50 Speaking of the goodwill this created. Look at this documentary, look at how emotional people still get not even watching it the first time but on multiple viewings, thankful for the effort of their devs. It's an insane effort but it paid off like crazy. Very few players I know don't know the history of this game and those that know it, gained a deeper appreciation for the game and its developers through it. And this goodwill has lasted many years, thanks to the solid foundation of their effort, but also by keeping with their new philosophies over these years.
its gotten to the point where, im aso tempered by ff14, just watching this doc makes me emotional. i think the next step is becoming a yoship shaped egi
I haven’t noticed how tempered I was until I watched the Documentary crying.
@@LiquidSleepSolid exactly. except at this level of tempering, its more like liquid unaspected aether instead of tears. lol
In the endwalker media tour he was asked by jesse cox if the rumours of him being a primal and tempering everyone were true,and he replied that the japanese playerbase says that too, but he isnt a primal and doesnt want to temper anyone
@@dafire9634 i yea, i saw that. issue is, its not him that's the primal. he's like the summoner of the primal(or maybe a more spoiler thing that i wont say).
ff14 is the primal itself, sustained by the the fervent work and prayer from the devs and community around the world. he's just as tempered as everyone else.
@@Grimbonez oh no...
Koji is such an awesome influence on the game, not only did he play a major role in FF14 rebirth but he also formed a band (The Primals) with Yoshi and the other Devs who tour and play the music of the game, that's freaking rad.
Yeah, Koji is a real one. I don't think the game or the community would be the same without him.
From a a school teacher to a member of the team that save Square.
Wasn't Soken the one to found the primals?
But yeah Koji wrote songs like dragonsong so he's really good with it xD
@@muuhnkin4611 from what i know koji writes most of the english lyrics
I played FFI with my son when he was 8, 32 years ago, on the SNES.
If i remember correctly FF 1 is only available on NES, GBA, PSP, PS4 and old mobile devices and android.
@@tusharrathore6330 Guess it was our first NES. We played the first four 8-bit FFs together. They also showed up on Gameboy, and are on the Play store now, as you pointed out.
@@Flatunello Nice. Also, if it was on the snes, it could have been FF mystic quest.
@@DotAzam Probably it; We played pretty much all that came out on Nintendo products
@@Flatunello …first four? FFIV was 16-bit and FFII and FFIII were not even released in the west until much later (on the PlayStation and Nintendo DS respectively).
I think the only reason why Yoichi Wada made the decision to accept option B was because he already knew his foot was out the door with the company. The company lost massive amounts of money that year and he was going to be force out of the company... so he thought to himself.. I have nothing really to lose so why not. This way I can atleast do my part to save the company and streer it in a better directions before I am forced out. And it wasn't him saving his own skin and just ditching or spitefulness. Yoichi Wada staked his own reputation on the line as well making many many public appearences with Naoki Yoshida making sure people knew he was involved with the decision making and that if it had failed he was going down with it. It was a bold move and one I don't think we would see from a company like Blizzard or Activision.
This came out years ago and the best part is that everyone you see in this video is still with the company now. Having a consistent dev team that cares is really what sets FFXIV apart imo.
I’ve watched this doc probably 6 times now. Still gets me in my feels.
This is an example of team tunnel vision, corporate momentum, and cultural arrogance giving rise to a willingness to not even peek at the assembled whole. They should have had periodic proof builds to test features, even if disconnected, to see the whole rather than just trying to describe the elephant from the perspective of seven blind men.
ive watched this documentary like 4 times via so many wow guys in the last two weeks lol
I hope the NoClip channel can produce a continuation to this documentary series. I would love to know more about the Stormblood and Shadowbringers developement, as well as how the Square Enix team reacted to the huge player increase in 2020 and 2021.
I played the original FF on NES when it was released. Was my 1st RPG. Hooked instantly.
Also played FFXI on PS2 w/hardrive. Again, loved it. 1st MMORPG I had played.
FFXIV was announced and I pre-ordered the collector's edition for PC. Was very sluggish but I still found enjoyment in it.
Became a legacy player by sticking with it and got to add my name to the credits.
"Ancientsxi Zenwolf" is the name.
Pre-ordered Endwalker as well,
I can always count on Yoshi P to make a great game 😀
Your devotion was truly rewarded due to yoshida. I have been around since post heavensward so much respect to our 1.0 meteor survivor bretheren.
@ 14:08 CatGirls were already a thing in FFXI Preach. That's why they show it.
FF11 was a very similar tale of 14's rebirth. The original FF11 was basically everquest levels of punishing, nothing you can solo, nothing you can afford, nothing you can attain, unless you grinded for months in groups. Then that expansion came out and made it a lot more solo friendly and stuff like unlocking Summoners summons (You had to beat tough raids basically) or even some classes like Samurai wasn't impossible for everybody but the top tier guilds anymore.
FFXI was one beast of a game.
There's no other game like it.
It was brutal, punishing, dangerous, and everyone was on the same boat.
Reputation was important. The community would know the who's who on the server.
I'm glad XIV didn't become XI-2.
I remember being 17 and spending all my after high school time playing that game (i've played for around 15 years total in the end sheesh..). That game gave me friends for life, and even though i can understand the argument that it didn't respect player's time etc, i still had the best experience i've ever had in a video game. That game taught me english as well, since it wasn't available in French when i started playing.
Having a special set of skills that made you, the player, good at a certain job, having that "reputation" as you said, was really thrilling. I'm glad the game is still around, i sometimes go there and chat with the unrelentless people that still play.
@@girodleo31 15 years? Damn! Way longer than me. What broke my Galka's back was Mee Degi the Punisher. I went 0/32 on that NM.
The reputation thing was real. I didn't realize it until one day I was invited to join a Japanese party. The one guy who could speak English said his friends heard about me and wanted to see for themselves if the stories were true about this "Galka PLD from NA." Long story short, they concluded that the stories of me were true - I could do a merit party better than a NIN tank.
I met a lot of players who learned English from XI. One guy in particular, a German fella, by the time I quit, learned English better than the native English speakers! It was awesome!
XI was the first time I ever had to use French when I got invited to a French party. It was still difficult because Canadian french is so different from french spoken in France.
Oh the memories!
My reaction when I see this lovely title pop up in my suggestions
"Ohhhhhhhhhh herreeeee weeee gooo..."
also, why am I not subbed. Subbed!
ngl I love the look of thoes cutscenes in 1.0
When people said to YoshiP they wanted to play XIV 1.0
Me: "You think you do, but you don't."
Yoshida is indeed a primal, he was summoned to the XiV by the prayers of fellow devs
In the endwalker media tour he was asked by jesse cox if the rumours of him being a primal and tempering everyone were true,and he replied that the japanese playerbase says that too, but he isnt a primal and doesnt want to temper anyone
I was there I watched this doc when it was made. I've watched this doc every year since and I still love it so much
A thing to keep in mind that the things Yoshi P critics wasn't just about FFXIV. It was the direction SE was going in general. 13, 14, 15 supported some incredible cinematics and later updates of 14 showed it was a very pretty game once it could run. But the focus on graphics was taking over on what SE was focusing on. Honestly since 7 it's what gamers knew them by. Up to FFXII they released popular titles to hits. 13 declined with each game in the series in gameplay and story quality, 14 had it's present issues and 15 was carrying much of the principles 13 followed since it was originally intended to be part of the 13 series. 5 major titles that ranged from bombs to mediocre.
While 14 was the only one losing money, those 5 games were expensive and SE didn't make back nearly as much as they projected and the reviews for each of them sometimes being even worse. Yoshi P wouldn't just end up saving FFXIV and its why so many fans hold him in such high regards. Sure he makes mistakes too but he's generally very transparent and will own up to those mistakes too. Which just makes more people love the guy or at least appreciate what he has done with the franchise.
This documentary morale is not just for the gaming company but also all type of companies and jobs.
Yoshida views is, If customers are happy they will keep coming and be our free advertisement and if we be the customer we can see what is wrong with our products and what need to be fixes. So he spent years upon years just to fix this game and now become one of the most popular mmorpg and possible revive the mmorpg genres.
I never get bored watching this 3 part series.
They did the impossible and will NEVER be replicated again, no other company has the balls to pull it off... no other company has a Yoshi-P.
The original 1.0 version FFXIV actually improved so much after Yoshi P took over. So many changes to the game that ARR should have been labled ver.5.0 not 2.0... and by the end 1.0 was a very playable and enjoyable game. I have so many amazing memories and it was so much fun. But ARR is still the vastly superior game.
I love this documentary!
Also... Imagine a company having a QA team given any resources.
33:25 whooo the ol' Boi remembers coaxial cables for networking. That was IPX/SPX before TCP/IP(What ya'all would consider IPv4 as normal) (BNC is the connect, Coax is the cable itself)
And now IPv4 is being phased out for IPv6. We running out of IP Addresses on IPv4 since it's 32 bit can only generate 4.3 billion addresses. That's less than the world population of by nearly half. IPv6 is a 128-bit addressing system so in theory that can do 340 undecillion addresses. That's is 1^36 numbers of zeros. That should last for a long long time. Way more than IPv4 lasted.
This is like the seventh person I've seen somebody for the love of god PLEASE get to pt 2.
He uploaded part 2 and 3
"What's with Koji's wide eyes?"
I dunno, man. Koji's weird, but we love him.
The guy in the Superdry jacket looks so much like an astronaut I just can’t get over it
I hope that the devs being "we realized it was not good" is a wake up call to people about how game development is
most of the time you KNOW there are issues but it's very rare to have the time or leadership to fix it around in time or post
I'm actually kind of happy the first version of the game failed so spectacularly, because the rebirth has been phenomenal
The perfect video before bed. Koji's voice is so relaxing.
first time ever watching this had to watch it with preach though so amazing
i genuinely hope to see a documentary done like this for wow. ff14 proves that no matter how bad your game is, you can always revive it. and no matter how bad wow is today, it IS still very much playable and has many things to enjoy, it just needs people with passion to lead it.
One thing I feel compelled to say, the Market boards of 1.0 were terrible in terms of functionality and the looks were very basic, but the idea behind it was hella cool. Now that we have a real market board I wouldn't hate seeing the market row return as a novelty, maybe with the retainers having an actual shop in front of then, like a rug with random items on them.
Preach's wholesomeness to this game is amazing.
The famed Goobue Wall at the end
I was an avid FFXI player and later in that journey I started playing wow unlike a lot of my friends. While completely change my perspective about what an MMO was supposed to be. And I was excited for the follow-up to final fantasy 11 because shortly the devs would have learned and paid attention to current offerings.
But that wasn't the case. They even had a quest that made a joke about how jumping wasn't necessary. All of my frustrations from final fantasy 11 bubbled up because Tanaka had a history of deciding that he and his team knew better than what the players wanted and just doing that.
It actually reminds me a lot of how WOW is now.
After a few months I just had to quit because I couldn't suffer through another final fantasy 11 but more poorly optimized. I had just lived through burning crusade and Wrath of the lich King. Two of arguably the best expansions of any game ever at that point.
I just couldn't do it
If you want to go back and play some of the old ones, 4 and 6 are a must. So much of the game is a love letter to those two and they're wonderful.
One of the things that cemented me playing FF14 in the early days starting out watching lots of FF14 content creator vids in research was people in various video comments referencing the FF14 documentary that I had never heard of spellbound to WoW. I had bought and played the game on launch day, quit on first day it was so bad an experience. It was watching the documentary with great interest that turned things around for me just starting out as I was just trying out the game.
and now wow is in that position "we know better, we will do it our way"
17:43 With Koji talking about how each team was proud of the parts they contributed but none of it really worked well with each other reminded me of how Blizzard's team were proud of the little bits that the individuals added to Shadowlands. Made me think Blizzard is repeating the mistakes of FFXIV 1.0 but they seem to refuse to want to learn from it as a mistake.
Hiromichi Tanaka was the one responsible for this mess. He literally did nothing to organize the mess that was the dev of FFXIV. I personally think he should have stepped down before the game's released but his fucking ego got in the way and almost killed SE. He later used the excuse that he was ill. If that was true he should have just stepped aside and have SE delay the launch....
Me and my buddies have a running joke that Tanaka spent 80% of the budget on hookers and coke.
I snorted when you said "Yeah POE".
I love both poe and 14, but dayum they're different
45:43 : Yoshi P talks about Soken's reaction on his speech
Chat: SOKEN ❤
Me: 2021 Fanfest flash back emerges 😢😭
When I went into animation school, one of my teachers used the phrase "You can't polish a turd". When I went into the industry, the boss was like "Yeah, but 90% of our job is basically turd polishing."
Oh please do play some of the old ones. FF1 (GBA version), FF3 (3D version), FF4 (complete collection), FF6, FF9, FF12 (Zodiac Age)... FF Tactics and FF Tactics Advanced. Are some of my favorites. FF Crystal Chronicles is also pretty good according to my friend but not the PC version apparently it's missing some original features. I mean they're all good in there own right!
Feels weird seeing Koji without his hat lol. Now I feel i need to watch some Primals concert videos lol
Been a wild 2 years huh. "We got to play some of the older games!"
I participated in Alpha 1 Phase 1 of 1.0.... the battle system was EVEN WORSE than what was shown in the documentary. It was the first and only time the dev team listened to feedback before release.
Also it required a dual core processor. But it had to be two physical cores. Some players were only running 1 core with hyperthreading and the game would not work with that setup. The reason for the second core? The UI. The entire UI was a separate thread and felt entirely separate from the game. There was just SO MUCH wrong.
Like Koji, I also started my primary MMO experience with FFXI. I'd seen WoW and played like 5min of it prior but didn't really want to get into it at the time. Then I saw FFXI at Software Etc and thought "eh why not?". Little did I know, that would be the drug that hooked me into the MMO genre. To this day, there has never been an experience quite like it, for better or worse. FFXI is still a game I play today.
FFXIV 1.0 comes out and... I liked it? I think I liked the concept, more than the execution. It tried to recreate the unnecessary difficulties of FFXI. The fatigue system was something even FFXI didn't dare do, outside of fishing (but that was due to their attempts to counter bots). The thing was a huge mess. That lag though... that lag was so fucking infuriating. There was no fucking auction house lol. How the fuck do you go from a working and fully functional AH in FFXI, to nothing but bazaars that don't work properly!?
LOL! For those of us that continued to play, we saw there was something good there. Like you're seeing the diamond in an ocean of shit. Something that will change everything.
Then Yoshi-P came along and actually fixed shit over time. He actually made the ocean of shit not so thick with it. The game was fucking playable. It didn't suck as much ass just to spend time on it. Like you didn't question as yourself as much if you're just stupid for playing it lol. Then came the communication. A level of communication that put the old blue posts by Blizzard to shame.
Now, as a Legacy player that stuck with it, I get to celebrate my time with 1.0 in current FFXIV with permanently reduced subscription fees and other benefits. I sincerely believe a lot of the sway behind the decision to give us those things (especially the reduced fees) came from the man himself, Yoshi-P, and possibly those around him who worked so hard on the games. For all the work these people put in, they deserve all the respect people give them. They also deserve fair criticism for their fuck ups, but always with that level of respect they've rightly earned.
This is such an excellent documentary. I've watched it like three or four times now.
Koji was right, though. Long grinds on a handful of the same mobs, loss of XP... that was common at the time FFXI was released. It was the way Everquest did it, and that was the big MMO at the time XI was being developed. So the idea that you can level off mobs and quests solo was still not really a part of MMOs and wouldn't be until WoW.
Played XI for years before coming to Azeroth. Vana'diel will always be my home away from home.
I think one of the little things that sort of saved it from going as badly as it could have, was in Koji's statement about the fan reaction to the game, where he's pointing out that while he loves the devs, if he were on the outside, playing this game at home, he'd be having much the same reaction. Almost no company would be willing to admit that they had fucked things up that bad, but as SE, they pretty much immediately went to, "Guys, we fucked this up. We should absolutely not have released the game like this. We need to make it right. Can we make it right?"
Im thinking of wc3 reforged and im malding hard
FFV and FFVI are both incredible games everyone needs to check out.
Look at Preach's smile when Yoshi-P comes on screen :)
....he hasn't looked at a WoW dev like that in a decade
Find you a man who looks at you the way Preach looks at YoshiP
Oh lord, now I know what I’m doing with my afternoon
He's happy because he's not working for Blizzard, and getting sushi, sukiyaki, and katsu in Japan is easy.
Holy Yoshida.... Holy shit that guy... Extremely intelligent dedicated and I wish WoW could finally do that
I played during 1.0 and I remember the unofficial forums being an absolute dumpster fire. Hey at least I got a legacy chocobo for my troubles.
The fact of a company actually living up to and announcing failure, apologizing for it, is very refreshing. If it were blizzard it would never be an actual apology. You never hear a sorry. It's always some bullshit starting with "We understand and have heard the concerns" or "Despite issues we are currently facing, we are proud of the release" of some shit like Warcraft 3 reforged. It's always evasive PR speak to make it sound like they've done nothing wrong.
omfg yessss im so glad he is watching this
Let is not also forget that even in FF11 you could play all jobs on one character.
10 years later for them, 8 for us the players since ffxiv ARR launch. FF14 has become their most profitable Final Fantasy to date thanks to the man the myth the legend Yoshi P.
WoW has, till this day, never been localized in Japan, I guess that’s a big part why the old dev team didn’t play it.
Really? How did yoshi-p understand it?
@@akinasgreatest01 he understands English and can speak it okay too, he just uses a translator as he's not totally fluent
@@smee6969 Yes. Additionally, he uses translator because he wants to make the content always accessible to japanese audience as well.
I remember that I watched a video with a guy called Mike B a.k.a Fony and he did some pre release stuff for the first FF14. When they interviewed the devs and they asked "why can't you jump" the response was something like "because it's stupid". Then he played some demo and within a few screens he saw a copy & paste of the same roads and rocks I knew to avoid that shit.
Ironically new world has copy & paste cities and towns and the pvp lags like crazy. Funny that.
Oh man, if you're going to play the old FF games I cannot recommend 6 enough, it's fantastic. 1, 3, and 5 are generic (not much for story) but solid, 3 and 5 kinda go nuts with the jobs so I enjoyed them quite a bit. 4 is ok, has a decent story and is a big source of inspiration for Endwalker but it didn't really stand out to me. 2 sucks.
From 7 and beyond they start using 3d graphics and they're all good. Everyone has their favorite, oftentimes it's the first one played. If going for one of those just pick what looks/sounds the most interesting; some are more realistic while others are more high fantasy, some stories are more political while others have more romance. The variety is one of the main reasons I enjoy the series so much, they never say "hey this game sold well let's copy/paste it with a few tweaks and call it good". (Well they did make sequels and remakes but each original game is very much its own.) Every game reworks the combat system, very few re-use characters.
This is a great description of the Final Fantasy series. Gonna save this for the next time a friend asks which FF game should I play.
You think all the 3d ones are good? Oh boy.
11 Released two years before WoW :)
It's sad that the idea that MMOs will fix themselves is still the predominant mentality in development.
BNC is a connector not a cable :( the cable is coax...... Poor guy was given bad info.
Holy.... I've seen this documentary a bunch but how did I miss the Hildibrand FFXIV 1.0 footage. I wish they would re release parts of the old game (namely the quests) but with the updated system so we could experience it.
When’s he doing the rest?
Bro you dont need an excuse to go to Japan. It's amazing for tourism
If he wants to put it as a work expense he does ^^
And it's easier than ever to plan a trip in and around the city. And depending on which prefecture you plan on visiting, you won't need to use much Japanese.(hint:The closer you are to Okinawa/Yokohama, the more English you can use)
Well, they still have a travel ban because of Covid so he's going to have to wait a bit longer.
Did preach watch all 3 parts?
I remember laughing at this game back then when it came out, was playing warframe back then and I heard of the disaster of a release this was.
I've watched this doc a few times now. At first I thought it was an amazing, triumphant comeback and all was good in the world.
It's still amazing that they pulled it back, but they had no excuse for the original being this bad.
This isn't a small dev team, it's final fantasy. Kinda sad seeing how hard giants can fall.
We need more Yoshi P's, less arrogant companies and less apologists when their favourite companies make such terrible mistakes.
Square "we knew it was shit before we released it"
blizzard "our game is ALWAYS perfect the players are just assholes"
I pre-ordered FFXIV 1.0, but barely got to play it. Every time Hideyuki talks about the game's heavy use of scripts, I shudder. Despite meeting the game's requirements, my computer could barely run it. I wasn't even able to reach the gameplay and content failings of the game because it was so terribly optimized I couldn't even play it.
Hello everyone o/ Been playing FFXIV for 2 years at this point. My character is "Ash Cat" on the server Courel. I left WoW at the start of BFA. What I love about FF is the game isn't a race to endgame its all about the journey. Veteran players and new players are rewarded for playing together, You have side activities that don't effect character power what so ever. All of these are what I want in an MMORPG.
Also onto the combat. I know alot of WoW players are turned off by the longer GCD. Let me tell you right now you won't miss it. I actually much prefer it. So for example a trial in FFXIV (essentially a boss fight) is played out more like a dance. You can see the boss patterns to learn the attacks and move accordingly.
I highly encourage anyone to atleast give the free demo a try :) Just remember it's not a race to endgame take your time embrace the narrative nature of the game and get lost in the world of Final Fantasy!
Pick one: Patch the game or patch the game while remaking it from the ground up in less than half the time it takes to make an MMO. It is a goddamn miracle they let him go along with plan B.
To be fair to the 1.0 team, no one at Blizzard seems to be playing WoW either.
that would be awesome if you played the older titles Preach, I'd recommend to start FFIV, V, the VI they are not connected, but a great intro.... then... then ... do FFVII, YES!!!!
dude. he's getting SO into it xD ♥
Like and leave an emote if you were an 1.0 player. ☺
Wow devs overdosing on copium
WOW success too early, that make him don't know what is his problem
While FF14 fail too early, that make him know what they should do again
WoW "fall" is over 10 years after the launch though. It was a slow gradual decline as well. Completely uncomparable to the flaming dumpster fire that 1.0 was.
I ditched a wow beta key for FF11. 11 was well shit.
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The devs went really hard on copium before 1.0 launch. :)
Speaking of just patching a game to be MEH its MEH but ill still play cause im a sucker...... the brand damage done to Blizzard as a whole due to their treatment of not just wow but their employees..... Diablo4 was the only game ive looked forward to in a long time and they just put a wow dev in charge of it..... I already was on the fence about just calling shadowlands my last blizzard product but they fact the entire wow team hasnt just been fired yet..... yea a lot of the issues with the game design are coming from above so its not really the programmers faults. but they have been working under a flawed mindset for too long to think outside of the box and to make anything good. they just keep rehashing the same shit. reskin items, reskin mounts, reskin toys, reskin daily quest, reskin world quests, reskinned bosses. The next wow expansion might as well just be called WoW: Copy Paste
Free yourself of your chains brother
Here's an excuse to go to Japan, or justification, or whatever you wanna call it - You want to go.
Simple.
As an FFXI vet, FFXIV 1.0 sucked. Many of us tried it, but immediately went back to WoW or FFXI.