It is a very good book for beginners as well as for those that are already into th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt A very good basic ebook to keep as a reference too. I like it and the way the subject matter is presented. It has humor and that helps with the reading.
Thank you for your time and generosity giving such great input on the roof framing work. Much clearer than my teacher at the carpenter and jointers school, some thirty five years ago.
Excellent th-cam.com/users/postUgkxYGamVaHfdHiPlAQaLa7zkwR02OKpGYDU . I built the basic model with its help and it turned out great . It is intensive and really educational. Ryan got another victor! No one can represent it better than Ryan. Thank you, Ryan!
What a basic video. He doesnt have to use humor and be silly to teach. I like that, This guy is a great teacher and I'm about to check out his other videos. Great Job!!!!!!!!!!!!
just finished a hip on my garden shed . Was going to do a Gable , like everyone around me . watching your video inspired me . I took it one step at a time ,following you closely . If I may , I like to add for others who are new to this . Make sure your floor is perfectly level and solid . Top plate needs to be level and square . Use nice looking material . I used screws through out for floor and framing . Very little hand banging . Don't overthink it . I enjoyed building the hip on my shed . My tolerance was +/- 3/32 inch ,not sure if that is good or not ,but I like it . Thank you for a great video and the inspiration .
Framing side walls, windows and doors? Not a problem. Top it with a hip roof? Before today, I wasn't brave enough to even consider it a possibility; fears of elevated costs for all the waste in materials and those mental images of the roof collapsing in on my new addition. I'm not a builder by trade so thank you for taking the time to give a very thorough explanation followed by the markings, cuts, assembly and recap. Teachers like you help to change dreams into realities for many of us. Bare minimum, we have a greater understanding if/when we're dealing with architects and building contractors.
I love how you have learnt that skill and use it so confidently. I would say if I do this, you are going to end up with a whole lot of short timber. I am glad you showed how to put up the ridge, as I was wondering what went first. A really helpful explanation.
Old school. Experience, perfect methodology, without unnecessary clowning. The guys know what they are doing and share it. I appreciate here in Poland. There is a lack of such professionals today. Does anyone know what years it is?
smashing vid. Remind me so much of the late great Larry Haun. Easy for us to criticise. No one is perfect. keep it up guys, this vid is going to hit the millions.
The great thing about this video, I saved a lot of money. I now know to just hire a pro rather than waste time and dollars attempting it myself. Thanks!
Your not a chippie mate your a true Master craftsman my hat off to you, hope your Not working but teaching youngsters in a collage, over here we also have our own master craftsmen skill builder, skills you are Both tops s a teacher you just make it all sound so easy Great stuff thanks for posting mate
This is great information! Did anyone else notice or feel like this video was made in the mid 90's? Look at the truck and van in the background. Did you make this excellent video all those years ago? THATS forethought and planning!
Yeah he stole this video. The guy in the video is Steve Peters and this video was part of a series he made in the 90’s. ‘Sawdust and Wood’ flat out stole this video and claimed it as his own, he’s deleted comments of mine before because I’ve called him out on this theft as well.
For all of y'all hammer heads that are criticizing this man's video why don't y'all make y'alls own at lease he took the time to teach people something they didn't know
I'm a carpentry instructor and I teach this every class. This guy did a great job. It's very difficult to explain these concepts in a way people who are not craftsmen, or are just learning to understand. Being a carpenter is a separate skillset then being a teacher. If you can do both god bless ya. Let alone being able to film, edit, and publish an instructional video. Excellent job man!
Nice to see the Steel Square used for it's designed purpose. We use sliding levels for plumb and seat cuts...or used to. I haven't pitched a roof in donkeys years..lol!
From a carpenter who lives in Florida mostly all trusses cas of hurricane uplift. Being able to conventional frame is an art in itself. Ol reliable Hitachi stick gun can't beat um
When matching HAP or heel height on hip to the common rafter it shouild be marked 3/4" back -ish (for 1.5" stock), where the hip sides intersects wall. Did I miss something? if you did it his way it would be way low?
Good intro. I learned a little but still I could not do this without watching it again a few times. It looks like the hip rafter tails need a special cut on them to attach the rake/subfacia but IDK.
My rancher has hipped roof with tilted fascia and no gutters with typical 20" soffit/overhang. So you can actually have more fun with your exterior on a hipped roof. Some homes put fun shapes on exposed rafters and fascia.
Initially I was wondering how this guy was so jacked, every framer I’ve worked with is lean and wire-y. Figured he was a concrete guy. And then he cut the rafters with a windows 98 monitor lol thank god for technology.
You didn't drop the hip. Also can you show how to get rafter lengths and make deductions for the ridge. Also rafter tails? I like the way you made the double cheek. Great mock up for demo
I have hip roof as per your design. Would you be able to do another You tube video to show how to do loft conversion supporting the rafters and removing the purlin on all sides. The purlin are currently supporting the rafters and preventing them from sagging. They are supported by two load bearing walls of the stairwell in the middle of the house. I am not thinking of dormer but just utilising the existing roof space.
Good video...... you have done good tricks in your skill set. Here’s one... If you subtract a quarter inch off of your heel height on you hip rafter, the corners of the rafter won’t be high. I see it all the time, and it shows when the roof is sheeted.
Will your rafter layout match up to your stud layout. 5’1/2” is not on 16 or 24” center. How would you do it if you wanted rafters to land over a stud?
Beautiful, great job! Q: Why in some areas in the US they haven't brazed the rafters so they use the attics as nice rooms? Is it because they did it themselves without counting with restrictive inspectors and engineers which in most cases ruin our spaces? Once you see an open attic that hasn't being brazed, open and nicely converted into a room or a story, you will try to avoid brazing your roof.
It looks like you angle cut the end of the ends of the jack rafters where they abut the hip rafters (45 degrees?), but do you angle cut the end of the hip rafters where they meet the ridge? If so, at what angle? And what about the bird's mouths on the hip rafters where they meet the corners at the top of the walls?
Gable as you know is exactly same procedure as a hip but with out a hip, so generally a ladder is formed to give the required overhang from the last rafter either end
When I'm cutting Jack Raptors I cut the Long Point of the 45 on the top board and I stack it exactly on top of another board where the bird Mouse match so that when I cut the lawn point of the top board it marks the bottom board short Point all I do is Slide the top board back with the seller around and cut the short point of the one underneath it and both are cut without having to mark. Then I go to the next shortest one with a pattern and stack two boards on top of each other and do the same thing so in essence every time I make a cut I'm cutting an exact opposite
Wyatt Earp stacking a hipp roof !!! Good video though of a real framer cutting and hands on explanation Not a cookie cutter from hgtv that’s for sure!!
No Diablo blades back then 😆 good to see him try explain the common diminish method. Speed square in his pouch never came out… interesting. A lot easier to use and grasp for beginners than using a builders square. But a decent video not over the top and at a good pace.
When measuring the span, to work out the lengths of common rafters, there was no mention of an allowance for the thickness of the ridge. The ridge would affect the angles cut, or it just a minor change?
Several different ways but using the Pythagorean theorem on a basic calculator it's simple you square you rise and run add them together and hit √ button it will tell you the length of course in decimal form if you don't have carpenter calculator which is simple of course like .25 is a quarter .5 a half .333 a third so on and so forth but you length of rafter on a 12/12 pitch which just put√2 that's a foot for rise and one for run it'll give you 1.414 which is basically 17 inches because the .414 is not 4 inches it's 5 or close enough .42 is 5 inches .33 is 4 inches because your looking at it as a percentage of of a foot
Mid Michigan '68 ranch 16"center rafters 3/12 pitch HIP ROOF: PROB: Front & Back of home about 5th Bay from corner ALL bays closed off-HOW DO I VENT THESE?
Amazing video. One question is how do you determine the height of the ridge? Also what was the width of your birdsmouth when you were marking them on the common rafters
Say a roof has a span of 24' to get the height of the ridge take 1/2 so it would be 12' say the roof rises 6'' per foot so 6x12 - 72 if you want it exact take a framing square and lay it on a flat board put 6 and 12 on the same edge and slid the square 3/4 '' .following the 12 side of the square and read the height on the 6 ' side it would be about 5 3/4 so subtract the difference 1/4 and you have 71 3/4 then add the amount the rafters at the seat is above the plate on a plumb line on a 2/6 it would be about 4 1/2 for the ridge height would be 72 4 and 1/4
It's the owner who should decide the height of the ridge. Unless the house is done, measure it by tape measure. And if you cannot get access use Pythagorean theorem.c^2-b^2=a^2,
with great mustache comes great responsibility
It is a very good book for beginners as well as for those that are already into th-cam.com/users/postUgkxTNB_zFBSnTo_O1PqfVUwgi7ityw0JlKt A very good basic ebook to keep as a reference too. I like it and the way the subject matter is presented. It has humor and that helps with the reading.
That dude looks like the most '90's construction worker' I've ever seen
They look like they are from the "Disco" era (1970's). Whatever.
Thank you for your time and generosity giving such great input on the roof framing work. Much clearer than my teacher at the carpenter and jointers school, some thirty five years ago.
Excellent th-cam.com/users/postUgkxYGamVaHfdHiPlAQaLa7zkwR02OKpGYDU . I built the basic model with its help and it turned out great . It is intensive and really educational. Ryan got another victor! No one can represent it better than Ryan. Thank you, Ryan!
I don't know the answer to that question I'm sorry.
What a basic video. He doesnt have to use humor and be silly to teach. I like that, This guy is a great teacher and I'm about to check out his other videos. Great Job!!!!!!!!!!!!
your level of experience is at another level congratulations you are great
just finished a hip on my garden shed . Was going to do a Gable , like everyone around me . watching your video inspired me . I took it one step at a time ,following you closely . If I may , I like to add for others who are new to this . Make sure your floor is perfectly level and solid . Top plate needs to be level and square . Use nice looking material . I used screws through out for floor and framing . Very little hand banging . Don't overthink it .
I enjoyed building the hip on my shed . My tolerance was +/- 3/32 inch ,not sure if that is good or not ,but I like it .
Thank you for a great video and the inspiration .
Best explanation I have ever gotten for building a hip rafter roof. thank you.
Framing side walls, windows and doors? Not a problem. Top it with a hip roof? Before today, I wasn't brave enough to even consider it a possibility; fears of elevated costs for all the waste in materials and those mental images of the roof collapsing in on my new addition. I'm not a builder by trade so thank you for taking the time to give a very thorough explanation followed by the markings, cuts, assembly and recap. Teachers like you help to change dreams into realities for many of us. Bare minimum, we have a greater understanding if/when we're dealing with architects and building contractors.
I love how you have learnt that skill and use it so confidently. I would say if I do this, you are going to end up with a whole lot of short timber.
I am glad you showed how to put up the ridge, as I was wondering what went first. A really helpful explanation.
Yep. That is exactly why I came here. How do you get that ridge up!
Old school. Experience, perfect methodology, without unnecessary clowning. The guys know what they are doing and share it. I appreciate here in Poland. There is a lack of such professionals today. Does anyone know what years it is?
smashing vid. Remind me so much of the late great Larry Haun. Easy for us to criticise. No one is perfect. keep it up guys, this vid is going to hit the millions.
I believe this is Steve Peters I have heard he has passed as well!
The great thing about this video, I saved a lot of money. I now know to just hire a pro rather than waste time and dollars attempting it myself. Thanks!
I like the fact that you did not over complicate the process. However, this level of skills are not intended for beginners.
Your not a chippie mate your a true Master craftsman my hat off to you, hope your Not working but teaching youngsters in a collage, over here we also have our own master craftsmen skill builder, skills you are Both tops s a teacher you just make it all sound so easy Great stuff thanks for posting mate
literally nothing is left to the imagination here.. friggin love this!
Great Video,learnt everything I need for building the roof of a summer house👍👍thanks
Best video on youtube on this topic hands down. Great job and thank you!!
You just made the impossible, possible. So much demonstrated with such few words. Thank you!
couldn't have explained it any better thanks for the tips.
Thanks for the helpful video. I love the freestyle guard down cutting, classic!
What a science! You are amazing! Who can draw out a roof for me and create all the measurements? I would only need to cut. Thank you.
This is great information! Did anyone else notice or feel like this video was made in the mid 90's? Look at the truck and van in the background. Did you make this excellent video all those years ago? THATS forethought and planning!
Lol!
Yeah he stole this video. The guy in the video is Steve Peters and this video was part of a series he made in the 90’s. ‘Sawdust and Wood’ flat out stole this video and claimed it as his own, he’s deleted comments of mine before because I’ve called him out on this theft as well.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. . It will definitely help me on my new project! Gracias my friend!
Awesome video! I want to build my shop almost exactly like this!
For all of y'all hammer heads that are criticizing this man's video why don't y'all make y'alls own at lease he took the time to teach people something they didn't know
The critics never post links to their videos
I'm a carpentry instructor and I teach this every class. This guy did a great job. It's very difficult to explain these concepts in a way people who are not craftsmen, or are just learning to understand. Being a carpenter is a separate skillset then being a teacher. If you can do both god bless ya. Let alone being able to film, edit, and publish an instructional video. Excellent job man!
I love the bum t-shirt. Great video, too. Thank you
Sir thank you for this video it is one of the best video this is the video of all videos
Very informative for a beginner such as me I save videos such as this thank you for teaching
This dude is awesome. His moustache, his white shoes, just awesome.
The confidence to cut all those bird mouth's at once. Damn. That takes a DIY'er at least a day. lol. 6:40
Nice to see the Steel Square used for it's designed purpose.
We use sliding levels for plumb and seat cuts...or used to. I haven't pitched a roof in donkeys years..lol!
Nothing better in framing than a stick built roof!
This video connected the dots for me. Thanks for uploading.
That simple jig he has used for the plumb cut is brilliant
We call it a boat
have you ever cut a roof
@@rexolrexol7893 Idk if u talking to me but I got 31 yrs as a carpenter....2nd gen....yeah hundreds....including my own
Good job! He made it a bit easier to learn hip roof!
That was not how to cut a hip
Iam a carpenter also ..but with u iam learning even more....
Great video. Thanks for your time.
From a carpenter who lives in Florida mostly all trusses cas of hurricane uplift. Being able to conventional frame is an art in itself. Ol reliable Hitachi stick gun can't beat um
Excellent explanation thanks saw dust
Excellent video ....Thank you !
Really awesome video. Thank you
Great job...thanks for teaching...!!
Great video Sir. I would say the negative thumbs down are from the Safety Nazies that probably are not even in the trades.
i learned a lot from this video thank you sir
You make it look easy. I wanna be a carpenter in my next life.
When matching HAP or heel height on hip to the common rafter it shouild be marked 3/4" back -ish (for 1.5" stock), where the hip sides intersects wall. Did I miss something? if you did it his way it would be way low?
I'm grateful, good teacher, thanks for your effort, I already subscribed.
awsome Video well explained Thanks for Sharing you Knowledge!!
Thank you. Great video.
Good intro. I learned a little but still I could not do this without watching it again a few times. It looks like the hip rafter tails need a special cut on them to attach the rake/subfacia but IDK.
My rancher has hipped roof with tilted fascia and no gutters with typical 20" soffit/overhang. So you can actually have more fun with your exterior on a hipped roof. Some homes put fun shapes on exposed rafters and fascia.
Initially I was wondering how this guy was so jacked, every framer I’ve worked with is lean and wire-y. Figured he was a concrete guy. And then he cut the rafters with a windows 98 monitor lol thank god for technology.
My retired Builder Uncle is jacked also even in retirement he is old school.
Lol!
'Wiry' is good i believe!
Incredible content!
You didn't drop the hip. Also can you show how to get rafter lengths and make deductions for the ridge. Also rafter tails?
I like the way you made the double cheek. Great mock up for demo
I have hip roof as per your design. Would you be able to do another You tube video to show how to do loft conversion supporting the rafters and removing the purlin on all sides. The purlin are currently supporting the rafters and preventing them from sagging. They are supported by two load bearing walls of the stairwell in the middle of the house. I am not thinking of dormer but just utilising the existing roof space.
Very nice videos 👍 this is great Sir thanks
Great video. Thank you
Brilliant video,
Thank you, great video. Learned a few things. Will be back for more videos.
Simplicity with excellent preciseness…….only complaint( WHERE IS YOUR SAFETY GEAR)❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thanks for that great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Good and beautiful job I salute you well done
Good video...... you have done good tricks in your skill set. Here’s one... If you subtract a quarter inch off of your heel height on you hip rafter, the corners of the rafter won’t be high. I see it all the time, and it shows when the roof is sheeted.
Called dropping the hip. For a 12/12 slope it needs to be dropped 1/2".
@@paulrobinson5833 have your ever beveled your hips?
@@scottallen5269 no but that's an option.
@@paulrobinson5833 me neither... that’s not in the budget. Lol
@@scottallen5269 yeah takes time.
Sir I consider myself an excellent carpenter...but u are outstanding
Will your rafter layout match up to your stud layout. 5’1/2” is not on 16 or 24” center. How would you do it if you wanted rafters to land over a stud?
Great Job Thank You
Just subscribed and like 👍.. thanks for the video
Excelente explicación amigo
Fantastic Instructions
Beautiful, great job! Q: Why in some areas in the US they haven't brazed the rafters so they use the attics as nice rooms? Is it because they did it themselves without counting with restrictive inspectors and engineers which in most cases ruin our spaces? Once you see an open attic that hasn't being brazed, open and nicely converted into a room or a story, you will try to avoid brazing your roof.
It looks like you angle cut the end of the ends of the jack rafters where they abut the hip rafters (45 degrees?), but do you angle cut the end of the hip rafters where they meet the ridge? If so, at what angle? And what about the bird's mouths on the hip rafters where they meet the corners at the top of the walls?
I really enjoyed the video. I am a woman, so I wanted to know what to expect from a contractor's skills.
Wow! A woman by crikey!
What about the next roof model in the background? Any vids on that?
Great video, I am a draftsman who has to draw roofs line by line. This has helped tremendously. Thanks a lot. Is there one for gable roofs etc ?
Gable as you know is exactly same procedure as a hip but with out a hip, so generally a ladder is formed to give the required overhang from the last rafter either end
I UNDERSTAND the plumb and seat cut etc but didnt see how you got your lenghts of rafter or hips , but great video many thanks mick
Man thanks. From. Sc just getting ready to frame my sunroom in.
Question i missed how he figured out the jack rafters change by 2'9" 7/8 Incrementally?
This use to be available for purchase at one time didnt it? I almost bought it years.ago.
Great teaching
Perfect!!!
This video have been very helpfull to me thanks
Time for a New Blade!
When I'm cutting Jack Raptors I cut the Long Point of the 45 on the top board and I stack it exactly on top of another board where the bird Mouse match so that when I cut the lawn point of the top board it marks the bottom board short Point all I do is Slide the top board back with the seller around and cut the short point of the one underneath it and both are cut without having to mark. Then I go to the next shortest one with a pattern and stack two boards on top of each other and do the same thing so in essence every time I make a cut I'm cutting an exact opposite
Wyatt Earp stacking a hipp roof !!! Good video though of a real framer cutting and hands on explanation
Not a cookie cutter from hgtv that’s for sure!!
Very helpful thanks
Yeah fantastic video
hello there buddy i want to know how do you determine the slope of the roof ???
Great video! I really appreciate it! Can you tell me how to determine the length of the rafters?
Roofing books or calculators
THANKS FOR SHARING
Excellent!!!
No Diablo blades back then 😆 good to see him try explain the common diminish method. Speed square in his pouch never came out… interesting. A lot easier to use and grasp for beginners than using a builders square. But a decent video not over the top and at a good pace.
great video, i thought he's Randy Johnson brother.
Good video
When measuring the span, to work out the lengths of common rafters, there was no mention of an allowance for the thickness of the ridge. The ridge would affect the angles cut, or it just a minor change?
You need to subtract half the thickness of the ridgeboard from the common rafter length and 1 1/16 in from the length of the hip rafter
@@timothypalmer5846 That's what I thought, but do not recall that being mentioned
Subtract the ridge thickness from the span, then calculate your common and hips they will be the right length without sortening after the fact
How do you cut hip rafters with hand saw
Can't even count how many times I have been referred back to this video for some reference that I forget 😂😂
Great work. You cut everything prior installation. How did you get the length of all your rafters?
He wouldn’t know because it’s not his video. He stole it and won’t give the guy who made it any credit.
Juan Ramirez if you read the info on the framing square,it will tell you the length of the common rafters.
An amazing piece of kit, brian,uk,
Several different ways but using the Pythagorean theorem on a basic calculator it's simple you square you rise and run add them together and hit √ button it will tell you the length of course in decimal form if you don't have carpenter calculator which is simple of course like .25 is a quarter .5 a half .333 a third so on and so forth but you length of rafter on a 12/12 pitch which just put√2 that's a foot for rise and one for run it'll give you 1.414 which is basically 17 inches because the .414 is not 4 inches it's 5 or close enough .42 is 5 inches .33 is 4 inches because your looking at it as a percentage of of a foot
Mid Michigan '68 ranch 16"center rafters 3/12 pitch HIP ROOF:
PROB:
Front & Back of home about 5th Bay from corner ALL bays closed off-HOW DO I VENT THESE?
Amazing video. One question is how do you determine the height of the ridge?
Also what was the width of your birdsmouth when you were marking them on the common rafters
When you have the span and pitch the height is wherever they happen to line up.
Your birdsmouth depth cannot exceed 1/3 the width of the board
The height is determined by the slope used, the larger the slope the taller the roof
Say a roof has a span of 24' to get the height of the ridge take 1/2 so it would be 12' say the roof rises 6'' per foot so 6x12 - 72 if you want it exact take a framing square and lay it on a flat board put 6 and 12 on the same edge and slid the square 3/4 '' .following the 12 side of the square and read the height on the 6 ' side it would be about 5 3/4 so subtract the difference 1/4 and you have 71 3/4 then add the amount the rafters at the seat is above the plate on a plumb line on a 2/6 it would be about 4 1/2 for the ridge height would be 72 4 and 1/4
It's the owner who should decide the height of the ridge. Unless the house is done, measure it by tape measure. And if you cannot get access use Pythagorean theorem.c^2-b^2=a^2,