You guys need to do a blind test: hide five amps: THR, this Vox, a Katana, a TwoRock and a Victory - or some such. Mic them all up the same way, and see which viewers prefer, without knowing if it's tube or transistor. This amp sounds very nice. I just wish there were a direct comparison....
Plus it's got to be so annoying to listen to Rob play the same fucking string bend run through the scale as fast as he can solo every God damn time he picks up a guitar I can't stand it anymore and immediately fast forward but poor Lee is stuck in there with full volume.
He knows how to play, but it doesn't show. It's always more of the same. That's why I love it when Rabea does a demo. That guy knows how to play clean, blues, rock, metal, ... and still sounds very musical in all the genres. And with a strat he's simply a joy to listen to.
***** I love how folks mistake gear reviews as player reviews! By the way where's your TH-cam channel showing you playing all these awesome chord progressions and just wowing everyone while doing a soul food review???
raze101 Why do we have to prove ourselves? It won't make Rob play differently. I said Rob knows how to play, but in almost every gear demo, he does the same thing. Have you seen Rabea do demo's on his channel? He goes from amazing beautifull clean playing to djent. What is the point of seeing Rob play sweeps and djent playing in every gear demo?
Looks aside, I think the Vox has the edge over the Yamaha. I need to do an A-B test to be sure & I do want to throw the Mustang GT40 in there too as the built in Looper & ability to change patches that don't affect the loop are really appealing. Stay tuned for that review! Cheers
I have the Yamaha one too, it's great, I've spent a bit of time with the pc editor making up some nice presets ... for me, the omission of a line out is a bit pants though - it would be really usable for little gigs if it had one - there's a headphone out but it mutes the speakers of course. If this could be switchable I'd be a happy chap. Amp-wise, anyway. Looks like the vox is the same.
Actually, did you cover that? Can the Vox take a separate cab? I think a new small modeling amp shootout deserves a re-visit. The three you mentioned plus I thought Blackstar had a newer lunchbox sized amp with similar features to this.
Lee doesn't give a shit in the best way. It's like he's just some bloke i met in the pub 4 years ago and i've been watching play guitar since. It'd be nice to meet him one day.
Received my Vox Audio air gt a couple weeks ago. Been playing for over 30yrs. The amps and effects are superb, the spring reverb is addictive with the BT OD amp! IMHO
To all my friends on the other side of the pond, Stay safe! Every time I turn on the news it seems like England is always under some kind of fire. God bless and rock the fuck on :)
10 times more people die every year from chocking on toast in the UK than in terrorist attacks. Disgusting and angering yes, but not as dramatic as the news want you to believe. I was minutes away from London Bridge on Saturday night and life goes on for the rest of us.
I see the same thing every time I turn on the television and watch the news for here in the States. It's just we don't call a guy with a gun shooting up his work place and killing 5 people terrorism. We just call it a Monday.
I don't get angry at toast. What I'm saying is that the UK is hardly under fire, siege or whatever it is that the news want you to believe to keep you captive. It's not an all out war here.
My wishlist (I own a THR10): - Looper needs an effects loop. If you want a mellow background sound, then an overdriven lead in your looping... Tough luck. Because the looper has to go in the front end signal path, you can't get it to loop the wet signal, then change the settings. - Related: if you've got a, say, Boss-RC30, with microphone input -- you have to use a clean effects chain since the vocal gets the same effect as the guitar. If the looper were via separate send/receive then it becomes much more useful. - No output suitable for FOH. I know it's a practice amp, but if you wanted to use it just for its really nice amp simulation, you can't. - Power supply issues cause noise. I get noise from mine as soon as I plug it into anything else that's got an earth. - Cut out on low battery. If you play loud on battery some sort of automatic cut-out turns the amp off and it needs a switch on and off to bring it back. That means no nice linear degredation on failing batteries -- if they're not brand new you can't trust it to stay on after an hour or so of playing. - Bluetooth input (as Cap says) - Not enough headroom on input (as Cap says), they've obviously pushed the digital chain right to the limit on dynamic range. That means if you put signal + looped signal into it, it's too much and distorts the input -- but not in a nice analogue amp way, in an overflowing digital value way -- farty and horrible. All that being said, I love my THR, and it doesn't look like this Vox fixes enough of the above to tempt me (and it's nowhere near as pretty so the wife might not let it in the living room).
My big thing is the Effects Loop for Looping purposes just as you mentioned. Thought it since day 1 of owning the THR10. If this was available in the VOX then I would change but seeing it isn't... not enough of a reason to purchase this one. Would be an option if I didn't have a practice amp of this size though. May choose this over the Yamaha for Bluetooth purposes.
As well as an FX loop, an aux stereo input for connection to i-phone, laptop, 2nd giutar or mini-key board, drum machine, mic etc. A clean 50W output amp(s) would easily handle multi-inputs.
Once Rob help up that first PRS he was holding my jaw nearly hit the floor, might just be the best looking finish I've ever seen on a guitar, just stunning!
The Yamaha THR takes pedals incredibly well! I use it with drive and boost pedals and they sound great! I find it really cool though that the Vox has 11 amps (or 23 with the app) vs the THR's 5
@@drovoseg I don't want to assume anything, as I only have THR10x and 10c (biased, I know). However, what I can tell you is that I've yet to see a small (or bigger) practice amp that rivals the dynamics and response of the small THR units. It's not the sound, it's more of a tactile thing. I will be fair, on the 10x I mostly use Brown I, Southern Hi and Clean settings, but the effects are good to great and those channels simply deliver. Power I also works in low gain for hendrix stuff and much more. The flat / bass models are excellent for pedals/modelers/other sources (even music, as to be able to EQ to taste as opposed to serving it though aux in. Most other ss/digital amps I've tried, while they do have good sounds inside, lack this level of dynamics and feedback. For instance, I do have a newer MOOER GE-200 multiFX unit which I can run into PAs or even the THR LineIn/BASS/FLAT setting or speakers/headphones, with tons and tons of great sounds and effects (and Impulse Responses). However, I don't feel any of them have that tactile thing the small Yamaha amps do so well. In many instances you can go from gentle clean to dirty and mean just by using finger/pick attack. Most models respond extraordinarily well to the guitar's volume knob (assuming it's not the kind that gos instant off after turning it down one fifth. They also are the best sounding units at really really low volumes. At 2 AM, if I did have to crank something up to get a good sound, I'd rather crank a tube amp w/powersoak :) So, I don't know what to say, for something a little louder I'd probably just skip ahead to BOSS Katana (maybe) or something similar. Connectivity-wise, well, there's an app that allows loading/saving presets via usb cable+otg adapter and smartphone for the Yamaha (I suppose a bluetooth - USB receiver could be used for that and aux in perhaps), but it's a really nice feature on the Vox, that's for sure. The tuner on the THR is accurate and fast for any tunging/pitch while as far as I see, the vox only offers some leds to check standard tuning. I'll surely try the Vox at some point, but based on what I know so far, I'd much rather have an updated THR to rule them all :)
Couldn't agree more. And maybe it comes in a paper carrier bag with string handles, so that the buyer can swing the wrapper on his/her wrist for a few weeks...
People who know small amplifiers well or have heard a lot of them; Can you give me some SUGGESTIONS (don't argue/fight) for an amplifier with the following criteria: - Analogue, so transistor or valve and no digital modeling and effects (it's not necessary). - One or two channels/modes, or at least the ability to switch between low and high gain. - A natural/balanced "transparent" sound. So not necessarily a single/strong character like "Blues" or "Metal". - In a size that's easy to move around and place indoors. - Even up to a 1x10" or 1x12" (though that probably gets heavier). - And an affordable(!) price-tag, as it would be an extra practice-amp. So preferably not break or hit the 400 Pound/Euro mark. I'm not talking necessarily about a direct comparison to this Vox and the Yamaha, which are nice, but a more straightforward analogue practice-amp. - I know there are the small Blackstar ones for example, which I'm already taking in consideration, so kind of along that line. I mean, I'd like to know which other ones are out there to consider.
Lee, I've wanted Bluetooth on my thr 10 since about two weeks after I got it. I really like it, but you could do so much more with it if it had Bluetooth. That and a stereo effects loop, then it would be close to perfect. the main reasons would be to add wireless accessories like a footswitch to select between the presets, and obviously streaming audio. I think the declared number of a maximum devices is 6. 4 is about the most you can practically get away with before you start running into problems.
Glad you pointed out the lack of bluetooth on the Yamaha. It's already sitting on my desk. I'd like it to be able to pull double duty as a bluetooth speaker.
Pretty cool! The functionality and sounds seem to be perfect for at home use. Although I have to say its ugly as hell. This looks just cheap compared to the THR10.
my Yamaha thr-5a fell from over four feet onto a bare wooden floor, did a forward roll..... never even bent a dial, excellent engineering. I believe it was the last time i used the trampoline as a Doppler reverb.......
I bought one this week. Having owned the yamaha thr10 and THR10X , I have to admit this vox is the best sounding device in this segment... BUT as for downsides: it looks very ugly... And feels almost to plastic-esque... I am loving the vox tho because it has everything on board , where with yamaha you would at least have to buy 2 different versions to come at same level. The dual rec on the vox sounds killer, but also very nice boutique strat sounds are possible... If we could have the sounds and functionallity in the THR casing, that would be the ultimate amp I also firmly believe this concept are the best thing home players can buy. Speakers sound very convincing... Beter to buy some high end desktop amp like this or the yamaha instead of a modelling amp with a 8inch guitar speaker. These things are not cheap at all, but you get great quality...
Luke Mcfarlane Luke Mcfarlane I just got done building a 1x12 cab (still waiting in some parts actually) and while browsing tolex options, no kidding, I seen a Louie Vuitton wrapped 4x12. The white background with the rainbow colored "LV" logos all over. Actually didn't look too bad lol
Rob and the Captain; did you know that a Danish bloke invented Bluetooth technology? He named it after King Bluetooth who was King of Denmark and Norway hundreds of years ago. Love your Channel!
Jebbus H the Rob critical just crawl outta the woodwerk on these comments ....I,m sicker of reading your criticism , than I,d ever be of what Rob chooses to play.........these two work well together , and the contrast in their respective styles never gets old to me every one sounds like themselves even y,all ....when you start making umpteen videos as good as these , I,ll be the first to watch and listen......love your vids guys.....as good as any out there..........Cheers to the whole Andertons crew, Rab and Pete of course as well \m/
Fun and hear that they are starting to sounding better, stopped playing guitar when I bought my first modulation amplifier from Vox (never got any good sound and the fan with a background noise, suck ...). I think I had a break from the guitar for over 5 years until I heard some friends' gear, now I'm finally getting started again.
This might beat the yamaha but at 229.00 you can get the Katana mk2 , all these table top amps should be $199 and under . You would have to be really tight on space to get this over a Katana.
I have the Boss Katana 50 watt . For power for gigging , and the fantastic plethora of Boss effects . I purchased the Yamaha THR-X as a practice amp and sometimes use it as a Preamp through the Katana as my cab . The tones you can dial in are to many to count. If your a Metal , Thrash , Shred person I think its a must have . I have 34+ plus yrs. as a Gigging Guitarist and over a decade of session work . Both amp's compliment each other and wont hurt your wallet . The Vox they are testing does have some cool features but you wont miss them imho ??
It's probably the fact that it's being recorded with a microphone against the speaker (in stereo, too) and then good spacious modeling. - I don't think it would sound AS impressive if you were in the room with it. - It's like with any other small speakers; It can be impressive up close, but as you get farther away from it, even a bit, it starts sounding kinda weak and small. Could be wrong, it might still make it seem "big" with its imaging, which helps a lot, but the point being that perspective, literally the way you're catching the sound, matters.
this tiny vox ampy is standing on a bigy foxy ac30 ampy wonderfully a big amp resonates a lot- without connectdirectly ! fine tone here and there! rockn rolly!
I mean, I am listening with a proper high end dac and headphone amplifier with sennheiser 660's, so it may partially be that I am eeking every bit of quality I can from youtube audio, but this thing sounds fucking amazing in 2020.
lets not beat around the i was gonna say i prefer the yami but after that demo lets be honest these 2 amps have got to be some of the finest tones on the planet for modelling amps absolutely amazing sound glad i caught an eye on them you just gotta have that sound
One of the simple joys over the last few years, is to watch Lee go from a nervous "I'll be your twitchy nervous rhythm guy" to someone perfectly happy to play a few licks and have the confidence to just do it and not worry. Warms my heart. I may be kidding myself, but I swear I can see pride in Chappers when Lee does it too. I may well-up now.... sob!
Bought this jan 2022 it was great! feb 2023 the app would not work and vox dissed the local distributor there was a beta app that kind of worked and also did not work mid 2023ish last month after an update on the phone it all worked again 2 weeks later they updated the app to the beta version and boom I have no current android phone or tablet that works that is a year and 5 months of something I spent money on not to have it work as it was sold. UGGGHHHHHGG I've used my tube amp and the pathfinder 15r more as they just work... unlike this over sized paperweight
Hey guys - good video but not using the iPhone app takes away a good chunk of functionality. The Tone Room app gives you different effects immediately and less need to have all those pedals on the floor getting in the way if you simply want to practice at home or in a small area. Give it a try if you haven't already.
Don't forget the software the Yamaha has, as it has a compressor with stomp or rack mode, a noise gate a reverb setting with Room,Plate,Hall and Spring that gives Hi/Low ratio and Hi/low Depth and Level and the same with the Delay and Chours,Tremolo,Flanger and Phaser plus it has 5 speaker cabs and many presets plus a web site with downloadable patches plus it can be battery operated but this is a great comparison Vox is moving up I'll bet their software is up to par too. Wow Great PRS.
I was on the fence until I heard the Dual Rectifier tone, which was crazy flubby. Also - I'm in love with that blue PRS. If I didn't have to sell organs to afford one, I'd get it.
I also own a THR 10 (a THR 10X in fact). In fact, it's the only amp I have in my workshop. In regard to using a pedal with a THR, I actuallu use a Maxon OD808 as a clean boost in front and though it doesn't add much to the drive, it adds loads more sustain (I only ever use my Maxon as a clean boost with 0 gain)...
@@WorldEagleKW It's probably saved a lot of marriages. Most wives or significant others don't want a man-cave in the living room. There is often a ban on amps or "backline" in most rooms of the house. With the THR, it just looks like a little radio or something. It's kind of pretty actually. And it does a decent guitar tone at a reasonable volume.
Vox was never really on my radar until I played a Vt20x the other day for a couple hours. It has a preamp tube that seems like it makes a difference. Sounded way better than my Blackstar id20tvp. I'm a huge Blackstar fan, so I hate to say I'm switching it for the Vox. I did not want to like the Vox, but I did.
50w - Thats probably what the amplifier chipset could do with the right power supply and its probably a DIN rating not an RMS one. Also, large paper coned speakers are way more sensitive and shift a ton more air that two 3" general purpose speakers ever will. The former are about tone.
According to the spec sheet 50W means: 2x25W RMS @ 8 Ohm max. It dials back to 2,5W when using batteries. I suspect this is the solidstate/modeling combo variant of the MV50.
Coming at'cha from (youtube) America (Manhattan to be exact)This Vox Adio Air GT looks like a ladies pocket book bag with the same (criss-crossing) designs that were used in the 60's television program 'The Outer Limits'. By the way...it sounds pretty damned good- and by the way- I love you guys. You're so funny and spot on- i think you two should have your own TV show.
about super wide mode, the THR has a hidden button for that as well, just press and hold the tuner button for a long time and than a # sign appears in the display. Thats your wide mode.
Hi! Thanks for all your hard work. The question I’d like to ask (partly connected to last week’s “Small Valve Amp or Big Modelling Amp? Which is Better??” video) is, which is better in this price range for home recording? Six months ago I tried a Yamaha THR10, and immediately fell in love with it. Only to discover, post purchase, it’s really hard to record. Just never sounds anywhere near as good (either dynamic or condenser mics). Some feel this is to do with the fact it is basically producing the sound of a well recorded cab, rather than sounding like an actual cab in the room. Anyway, there are lots of people out there it seems who, like me, just want to record wee songs at home. And are on a tight budget. Perhaps some form of A/B/C/etc. testing would help those folk? Focusing on how well they sound recorded? Perhaps a Vox AC4C1-12 vs. THR10 vs Vox Adio vs Blackstar (ID:CORE BEAM?) vs something similar? Anyway, that’s my request/suggestion. Okay, one of them…
That "wide stereo" thing is an enhancement deal using phase shifts, as many small countertop CD/radios have used forever; it can be turned off in the Yamaha, otherwise apparently can mess with headphone/as line out audio. I also don't get testing a basic small unit with integrated setting options by bypassing to obfuscate using extra pedal stuff. What are we hearing, the unit or the pedal?
the yamaha picks it up big time when u use it connected to a pc, its my first amp in 15 years, love it amazing technology since my old peavy bandit when i was a teen
WHY YOU'D WANT TO USE PEDALS WITH THE ADIO OR THR? :) - Hi guys! Great video! One of the reasons you might want to put pedals in front of it, would be in a recording scenario. I use the THR all the time to record, just with the USB out, straight into Logic. Cool onboard sounds, but sometimes you want some different sound. But the guitar sound part of the THR doesn't take pedals nicely, at all. The bass patch though, does (weirdly enough) work very nicely :)
Lovin the gt40. Took a lilbit but really feeling it now. Bandmaster and as Stan lee would say, Excelsior! Oh, maybe a gt40, marshal code 25, vox, and thr shootout? Pete and the pedal guy or Rabea?
Love the video, but not reviewing the app was a BIG miss. For some reason, Vox decided to leave some of the best amp models accessible by the app only, especially on the high gain side. Also there’s deeper editing with more functions, and a ton of options for modulations and time based effects. Using the app takes the Adio from a great practice amp to an incredible piece of gear. I’ve had mine now about 6 months and absolutely love it. I’ve pre-ordered the THR30II to see if it’s the best now.
Dude please report back when you get it. I have an Adio and I love it with the wide mode on, but through any of my various headphones (and I have some very good ones) it sounds completely rubbish, just fucking terrible. I hated the Fender Mustang I had years ago but at least the amp models sounded decent through headphones, the Adio is just god awful, I wonder how the new THRii fares in this respect.
the boss katana head should be in the same category as this and the yamaha thr. It has the internal 5" speaker for practice, personally I think it blows both of these away
cool thing is you just leave your cab at the rehearsal space, bring the head home for practice and back for rehearsal. get the same tone at home and with the band
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You guys need to do a blind test: hide five amps: THR, this Vox, a Katana, a TwoRock and a Victory - or some such. Mic them all up the same way, and see which viewers prefer, without knowing if it's tube or transistor. This amp sounds very nice. I just wish there were a direct comparison....
Most viewers are not the best judges. Just as most players are beginners.
I love how every video you just see Lee giving less and less fucks.
F1337 the casual and silly way they do these demos and challenges makes them my favourite duo to watch for guitar related demos. 👌😀
Plus it's got to be so annoying to listen to Rob play the same fucking string bend run through the scale as fast as he can solo every God damn time he picks up a guitar I can't stand it anymore and immediately fast forward but poor Lee is stuck in there with full volume.
He knows how to play, but it doesn't show. It's always more of the same. That's why I love it when Rabea does a demo. That guy knows how to play clean, blues, rock, metal, ... and still sounds very musical in all the genres. And with a strat he's simply a joy to listen to.
***** I love how folks mistake gear reviews as player reviews! By the way where's your TH-cam channel showing you playing all these awesome chord progressions and just wowing everyone while doing a soul food review???
raze101 Why do we have to prove ourselves? It won't make Rob play differently. I said Rob knows how to play, but in almost every gear demo, he does the same thing. Have you seen Rabea do demo's on his channel? He goes from amazing beautifull clean playing to djent. What is the point of seeing Rob play sweeps and djent playing in every gear demo?
Looks aside, I think the Vox has the edge over the Yamaha. I need to do an A-B test to be sure & I do want to throw the Mustang GT40 in there too as the built in Looper & ability to change patches that don't affect the loop are really appealing. Stay tuned for that review! Cheers
I have the Yamaha one too, it's great, I've spent a bit of time with the pc editor making up some nice presets ... for me, the omission of a line out is a bit pants though - it would be really usable for little gigs if it had one - there's a headphone out but it mutes the speakers of course. If this could be switchable I'd be a happy chap. Amp-wise, anyway. Looks like the vox is the same.
Actually, did you cover that? Can the Vox take a separate cab? I think a new small modeling amp shootout deserves a re-visit. The three you mentioned plus I thought Blackstar had a newer lunchbox sized amp with similar features to this.
CaptAnderton you guys should review the pignose amp🤘🤘
What about Blackstar ID:CORE BEAM and how it is in comparison with Yamaha and VOX?
Get the BEAM in the mix for a comparison.
Thank you so much for the review. Watched it 6 years ago and still using it
Vox's modeling has come a long way, this sounds very good to me. I owned one of the first two series of Valvetronics.
Bought this little amp today, absolutely love it! Sounds amazing, perfect size, and (in my opinion) looks great.
Lee doesn't give a shit in the best way. It's like he's just some bloke i met in the pub 4 years ago and i've been watching play guitar since. It'd be nice to meet him one day.
Received my Vox Audio air gt a couple weeks ago. Been playing for over 30yrs. The amps and effects are superb, the spring reverb is addictive with the BT OD amp! IMHO
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TheAdynator Cheers bro! :-)
Rob Chapman By the way, I did a cover of Aeromancy for my school music exam last month and I got an A+, Dorje brings the good grades 🤘
Omg, that PRS is stunning
Robur custom 24, dont think it's a 10-top though.... Still nice
the mccarty 594 is my perfect guitar
To all my friends on the other side of the pond, Stay safe! Every time I turn on the news it seems like England is always under some kind of fire. God bless and rock the fuck on :)
Thanks man :) I live in the UK and the terror attacks are getting more common; nice to see someone who genuinely cares and isn't taking the piss.
10 times more people die every year from chocking on toast in the UK than in terrorist attacks. Disgusting and angering yes, but not as dramatic as the news want you to believe.
I was minutes away from London Bridge on Saturday night and life goes on for the rest of us.
I see the same thing every time I turn on the television and watch the news for here in the States. It's just we don't call a guy with a gun shooting up his work place and killing 5 people terrorism. We just call it a Monday.
Toasts don't try to deliberately kill you.
I don't get angry at toast. What I'm saying is that the UK is hardly under fire, siege or whatever it is that the news want you to believe to keep you captive. It's not an all out war here.
Lee, I never, ever comment on vids but, mate, your playing has taken to new heights. Cheers, G
My wishlist (I own a THR10):
- Looper needs an effects loop. If you want a mellow background sound, then an overdriven lead in your looping... Tough luck. Because the looper has to go in the front end signal path, you can't get it to loop the wet signal, then change the settings.
- Related: if you've got a, say, Boss-RC30, with microphone input -- you have to use a clean effects chain since the vocal gets the same effect as the guitar. If the looper were via separate send/receive then it becomes much more useful.
- No output suitable for FOH. I know it's a practice amp, but if you wanted to use it just for its really nice amp simulation, you can't.
- Power supply issues cause noise. I get noise from mine as soon as I plug it into anything else that's got an earth.
- Cut out on low battery. If you play loud on battery some sort of automatic cut-out turns the amp off and it needs a switch on and off to bring it back. That means no nice linear degredation on failing batteries -- if they're not brand new you can't trust it to stay on after an hour or so of playing.
- Bluetooth input (as Cap says)
- Not enough headroom on input (as Cap says), they've obviously pushed the digital chain right to the limit on dynamic range. That means if you put signal + looped signal into it, it's too much and distorts the input -- but not in a nice analogue amp way, in an overflowing digital value way -- farty and horrible.
All that being said, I love my THR, and it doesn't look like this Vox fixes enough of the above to tempt me (and it's nowhere near as pretty so the wife might not let it in the living room).
My big thing is the Effects Loop for Looping purposes just as you mentioned. Thought it since day 1 of owning the THR10. If this was available in the VOX then I would change but seeing it isn't... not enough of a reason to purchase this one. Would be an option if I didn't have a practice amp of this size though. May choose this over the Yamaha for Bluetooth purposes.
Your wife wouldn't like an amp that looks like grandma's handbag?
That's odd ; )
totally agree why do these things not have fx loops or loopers its a no brainer
As well as an FX loop, an aux stereo input for connection to i-phone, laptop, 2nd giutar or mini-key board, drum machine, mic etc. A clean 50W output amp(s) would easily handle multi-inputs.
Once Rob help up that first PRS he was holding my jaw nearly hit the floor, might just be the best looking finish I've ever seen on a guitar, just stunning!
MB215
Tastes differ. Ugly to me.
Sheeeet that first run from Rob on the PRS, been watching this channel for years and still get mind blown every now and then.
This may sound silly, but what I would really like would be a THR10 with an effects loop.
The Yamaha THR takes pedals incredibly well! I use it with drive and boost pedals and they sound great!
I find it really cool though that the Vox has 11 amps (or 23 with the app) vs the THR's 5
I love pedals with the THR, the flat setting takes distortion pedals and amp in a box really well.
Tone-wise, that thing sounds amazing.
We need more blues videos from the Captain! Cheers, Lee!
Rob and Lee are the most entertaining gear reviewers on the tube. Have a lot of time for Andertons always been great service when I've ordered online.
Someone’s been practicing! that sounds sweet on the fender my friend, kind of like your soulful playing vs 47 notes every two seconds.
again the editing SLAYS ME!! Great review!
The Holy Diver reference made my day. Rob is killer at guitar 👍
rob, thank u so much for showing that sexy prs to the cam at around 3:15 lol
I've had a Yamaha THR10C for 5 years. I kept the new Vox for a month. Speaks for itself.
What was wrong with Vox?
@@drovoseg I don't want to assume anything, as I only have THR10x and 10c (biased, I know). However, what I can tell you is that I've yet to see a small (or bigger) practice amp that rivals the dynamics and response of the small THR units. It's not the sound, it's more of a tactile thing.
I will be fair, on the 10x I mostly use Brown I, Southern Hi and Clean settings, but the effects are good to great and those channels simply deliver. Power I also works in low gain for hendrix stuff and much more. The flat / bass models are excellent for pedals/modelers/other sources (even music, as to be able to EQ to taste as opposed to serving it though aux in.
Most other ss/digital amps I've tried, while they do have good sounds inside, lack this level of dynamics and feedback.
For instance, I do have a newer MOOER GE-200 multiFX unit which I can run into PAs or even the THR LineIn/BASS/FLAT setting or speakers/headphones, with tons and tons of great sounds and effects (and Impulse Responses). However, I don't feel any of them have that tactile thing the small Yamaha amps do so well.
In many instances you can go from gentle clean to dirty and mean just by using finger/pick attack. Most models respond extraordinarily well to the guitar's volume knob (assuming it's not the kind that gos instant off after turning it down one fifth.
They also are the best sounding units at really really low volumes. At 2 AM, if I did have to crank something up to get a good sound, I'd rather crank a tube amp w/powersoak :)
So, I don't know what to say, for something a little louder I'd probably just skip ahead to BOSS Katana (maybe) or something similar.
Connectivity-wise, well, there's an app that allows loading/saving presets via usb cable+otg adapter and smartphone for the Yamaha (I suppose a bluetooth - USB receiver could be used for that and aux in perhaps), but it's a really nice feature on the Vox, that's for sure.
The tuner on the THR is accurate and fast for any tunging/pitch while as far as I see, the vox only offers some leds to check standard tuning.
I'll surely try the Vox at some point, but based on what I know so far, I'd much rather have an updated THR to rule them all :)
Dear lord that is a killer guitar - congrats Rob.
Thanks for the demo, chaps. I was looking forward to this one.
this sounds really good.
can't wait for the Yamaha vs. Vox showdown.
the amp looks like a bling-bling purse!
mynickisnick true, looks like my mom's handbagXD
That was my thought. Like if it had some of those little leather purse handles on the top I don't think anyone would be surprised.
lol That's what I thought - ladies hand bag!!
Couldn't agree more. And maybe it comes in a paper carrier bag with string handles, so that the buyer can swing the wrapper on his/her wrist for a few weeks...
Swap Meet Louie.
People who know small amplifiers well or have heard a lot of them; Can you give me some SUGGESTIONS (don't argue/fight) for an amplifier with the following criteria:
- Analogue, so transistor or valve and no digital modeling and effects (it's not necessary).
- One or two channels/modes, or at least the ability to switch between low and high gain.
- A natural/balanced "transparent" sound. So not necessarily a single/strong character like "Blues" or "Metal".
- In a size that's easy to move around and place indoors. - Even up to a 1x10" or 1x12" (though that probably gets heavier).
- And an affordable(!) price-tag, as it would be an extra practice-amp. So preferably not break or hit the 400 Pound/Euro mark.
I'm not talking necessarily about a direct comparison to this Vox and the Yamaha, which are nice, but a more straightforward analogue practice-amp. - I know there are the small Blackstar ones for example, which I'm already taking in consideration, so kind of along that line. I mean, I'd like to know which other ones are out there to consider.
nobody responded to this two years ago? Wow... lol
Fender Blues Junior hands down
Lee, I've wanted Bluetooth on my thr 10 since about two weeks after I got it. I really like it, but you could do so much more with it if it had Bluetooth. That and a stereo effects loop, then it would be close to perfect. the main reasons would be to add wireless accessories like a footswitch to select between the presets, and obviously streaming audio.
I think the declared number of a maximum devices is 6. 4 is about the most you can practically get away with before you start running into problems.
It may be time to do an updated version of this video comparing the Vox Adio Air GT to the Yamaha THR30IIW.
I have been eyeballing that cool looking jazz bass in the background of every video
Glad you pointed out the lack of bluetooth on the Yamaha. It's already sitting on my desk. I'd like it to be able to pull double duty as a bluetooth speaker.
Pretty cool! The functionality and sounds seem to be perfect for at home use. Although I have to say its ugly as hell. This looks just cheap compared to the THR10.
Hey Rob- some beautiful emotional lead work here...I think maybe the vox inspired you.
my Yamaha thr-5a fell from over four feet onto a bare wooden floor, did a forward roll.....
never even bent a dial, excellent engineering.
I believe it was the last time i used the trampoline as a Doppler reverb.......
Is that a Chuck Norris signature? 😂
@@therockchannel613 no that model throws a gun away before every fight.
Lee's playing on that 3rd setting was awesome! 👌
That is one lovely looking PRS Rob is rocking there
Thanks for the video! Just ordered my Adio :))
I bought one this week. Having owned the yamaha thr10 and THR10X , I have to admit this vox is the best sounding device in this segment...
BUT as for downsides: it looks very ugly... And feels almost to plastic-esque...
I am loving the vox tho because it has everything on board , where with yamaha you would at least have to buy 2 different versions to come at same level. The dual rec on the vox sounds killer, but also very nice boutique strat sounds are possible...
If we could have the sounds and functionallity in the THR casing, that would be the ultimate amp
I also firmly believe this concept are the best thing home players can buy. Speakers sound very convincing... Beter to buy some high end desktop amp like this or the yamaha instead of a modelling amp with a 8inch guitar speaker. These things are not cheap at all, but you get great quality...
Didn't know Louis Vuitton were making amplifiers 😂 jokes, sounds fantastic though
Luke Mcfarlane
Luke Mcfarlane
I just got done building a 1x12 cab (still waiting in some parts actually) and while browsing tolex options, no kidding, I seen a Louie Vuitton wrapped 4x12. The white background with the rainbow colored "LV" logos all over. Actually didn't look too bad lol
Ryan Wilson I saw a LV Tele on Jared Dines' Instagram 😂😂
Luke Mcfarlane that lv tele is post malone's
kim paolo salgado yeah I couldn't relieve the name, I just knew it wasn't Jareds
kim paolo salgado post malone? the shit rapper?
Rob and the Captain; did you know that a Danish bloke invented Bluetooth technology? He named it after King Bluetooth who was King of Denmark and Norway hundreds of years ago. Love your Channel!
Just had to say, I love your channel!
It looks pretty good. I'm a Vox junkie, so it will eventually be in my arsenal one day.
The best bit of this is the Subliminal Edit at 13 min 07 secs.
Spot on! :-)
The editing was fucking hilarious on this video, Rory (i think is his name) done a good job as usual
Jebbus H the Rob critical just crawl outta the woodwerk on these comments ....I,m sicker of reading your criticism , than I,d ever be of what Rob chooses to play.........these two work well together , and the contrast in their respective styles never gets old to me every one sounds like themselves even y,all ....when you start making umpteen videos as good as these , I,ll be the first to watch and listen......love your vids guys.....as good as any out there..........Cheers to the whole Andertons crew, Rab and Pete of course as well \m/
I would like to see fx loop in those little modelling amps.
I just bought the Air GT. I use the Bluetooth to stream backing tracks and the overall effect is very good. Great for the street or small rooms.
Great video guys. Looks promising.
I have that Yamaha and virtually never get it up to full volume, perfect for practice at home, sounds amazing and very loud
Yes it does
Fun and hear that they are starting to sounding better, stopped playing guitar when I bought my first modulation amplifier from Vox (never got any good sound and the fan with a background noise, suck ...).
I think I had a break from the guitar for over 5 years until I heard some friends' gear, now I'm finally getting started again.
Every time Holy Diver is played in one of these, I like the video.
This might beat the yamaha but at 229.00 you can get the Katana mk2 , all these table top amps should be $199 and under . You would have to be really tight on space to get this over a Katana.
I have the Boss Katana 50 watt . For power for gigging , and the fantastic plethora of Boss effects . I purchased the Yamaha THR-X as a practice amp and sometimes use it as a Preamp through the Katana as my cab . The tones you can dial in are to many to count. If your a Metal , Thrash , Shred person I think its a must have . I have 34+ plus yrs. as a Gigging Guitarist and over a decade of session work . Both amp's compliment each other and wont hurt your wallet . The Vox they are testing does have some cool features but you wont miss them imho ??
really love the cap's tone on the strat 4:57 ..awesome... Rob's tone is awesome too, but that strat tone sounds the way a strat was meant to sound.
Lee is playing cooler and more varying stuff every video!
Is it possible to make a comparison between this Vox and the Yamaha THR 30 mkii wireless?
Sounds pretty darn good on a mic!
9:22 That sound shouldn't come from such a tiny box. impressive
***** haha sure it helps but it's not doing the amplifiers job.. they got that stereo sound down very nicely.
It's probably the fact that it's being recorded with a microphone against the speaker (in stereo, too) and then good spacious modeling. - I don't think it would sound AS impressive if you were in the room with it. - It's like with any other small speakers; It can be impressive up close, but as you get farther away from it, even a bit, it starts sounding kinda weak and small.
Could be wrong, it might still make it seem "big" with its imaging, which helps a lot, but the point being that perspective, literally the way you're catching the sound, matters.
That's what he said.
this tiny vox ampy is standing on a bigy foxy ac30 ampy wonderfully
a big amp resonates a lot- without connectdirectly !
fine tone here and there! rockn rolly!
I mean, I am listening with a proper high end dac and headphone amplifier with sennheiser 660's, so it may partially be that I am eeking every bit of quality I can from youtube audio, but this thing sounds fucking amazing in 2020.
I REALLY like the Vox - thanks for the video guys. Probably time to biff the Line 6 spider III for one of these.
Lee, your playing has improved so much. Bully.
Man Lee has some sweet blues licks.
lets not beat around the
i was gonna say i prefer the yami
but after that demo lets be honest these 2 amps have got to be some of the finest tones on the planet for modelling amps
absolutely amazing sound
glad i caught an eye on them
you just gotta have that sound
Damn Rob, that last solo was awesome !! 🤘
One of the simple joys over the last few years, is to watch Lee go from a nervous "I'll be your twitchy nervous rhythm guy" to someone perfectly happy to play a few licks and have the confidence to just do it and not worry. Warms my heart. I may be kidding myself, but I swear I can see pride in Chappers when Lee does it too. I may well-up now.... sob!
Bought this jan 2022 it was great! feb 2023 the app would not work and vox dissed the local distributor there was a beta app that kind of worked and also did not work mid 2023ish last month after an update on the phone it all worked again 2 weeks later they updated the app to the beta version and boom I have no current android phone or tablet that works that is a year and 5 months of something I spent money on not to have it work as it was sold. UGGGHHHHHGG I've used my tube amp and the pathfinder 15r more as they just work... unlike this over sized paperweight
Hey guys - good video but not using the iPhone app takes away a good chunk of functionality. The Tone Room app gives you different effects immediately and less need to have all those pedals on the floor getting in the way if you simply want to practice at home or in a small area. Give it a try if you haven't already.
Don't forget the software the Yamaha has, as it has a compressor with stomp or rack mode, a noise gate a reverb setting with Room,Plate,Hall and Spring that gives Hi/Low ratio and Hi/low Depth and Level and the same with the Delay and Chours,Tremolo,Flanger and Phaser plus it has 5 speaker cabs and many presets plus a web site with downloadable patches plus it can be battery operated but this is a great comparison Vox is moving up I'll bet their software is up to par too. Wow Great PRS.
That amp sounds really, really good!!! Wow!!!
I was on the fence until I heard the Dual Rectifier tone, which was crazy flubby. Also - I'm in love with that blue PRS. If I didn't have to sell organs to afford one, I'd get it.
Wow that sounds incredible.
I also own a THR 10 (a THR 10X in fact). In fact, it's the only amp I have in my workshop. In regard to using a pedal with a THR, I actuallu use a Maxon OD808 as a clean boost in front and though it doesn't add much to the drive, it adds loads more sustain (I only ever use my Maxon as a clean boost with 0 gain)...
I would never be unfaithful to my beloved Yamaha. It probably saved my marriage.
Lucius Titius would love to hear that story :)
lmao not to be rude but your name sounds like it should be in that scene from life of brian where the guards are laughing at that guys name 😂
@@WorldEagleKW It's probably saved a lot of marriages. Most wives or significant others don't want a man-cave in the living room. There is often a ban on amps or "backline" in most rooms of the house.
With the THR, it just looks like a little radio or something. It's kind of pretty actually. And it does a decent guitar tone at a reasonable volume.
@@JC-fj7oo sounds like boys just date whatever female comes to prey on them first or vice versa
Take a drink every time Chappers retunes his guitar.
Vox was never really on my radar until I played a Vt20x the other day for a couple hours. It has a preamp tube that seems like it makes a difference. Sounded way better than my Blackstar id20tvp. I'm a huge Blackstar fan, so I hate to say I'm switching it for the Vox. I did not want to like the Vox, but I did.
50w - Thats probably what the amplifier chipset could do with the right power supply and its probably a DIN rating not an RMS one. Also, large paper coned speakers are way more sensitive and shift a ton more air that two 3" general purpose speakers ever will. The former are about tone.
According to the spec sheet 50W means: 2x25W RMS @ 8 Ohm max. It dials back to 2,5W when using batteries.
I suspect this is the solidstate/modeling combo variant of the MV50.
Coming at'cha from (youtube) America (Manhattan to be exact)This Vox Adio Air GT looks like a ladies pocket book bag with the same (criss-crossing) designs that were used in the 60's television program 'The Outer Limits'. By the way...it sounds pretty damned good- and by the way- I love you guys. You're so funny and spot on- i think you two should have your own TV show.
I love Lee's face after he says "like a false boobie".
Recorded with a Sm7B will give way more bass than a smaller diaphragm mic.
Captain's playing from 12.50. I'd love to play like that. seems so simple. love it
Craig Miller just some pentatonic licks, I believe he's playing E minor pentatonic
jake schleifer Thanks Jake. I'm learning and this stuff sounds great but accessible to someone like myself
The Vox sounds good. Just ordered one from Andertons.
I have them both and the vox is the best by far
Why in your opinion?
Sound
about super wide mode, the THR has a hidden button for that as well, just press and hold the tuner button for a long time and than a # sign appears in the display. Thats your wide mode.
12:47 May I have seconds please? That was some mighty tasty playing there Capt!
Hi!
Thanks for all your hard work. The question I’d like to ask (partly connected to last week’s “Small Valve Amp or Big Modelling Amp? Which is Better??” video) is, which is better in this price range for home recording? Six months ago I tried a Yamaha THR10, and immediately fell in love with it. Only to discover, post purchase, it’s really hard to record. Just never sounds anywhere near as good (either dynamic or condenser mics). Some feel this is to do with the fact it is basically producing the sound of a well recorded cab, rather than sounding like an actual cab in the room.
Anyway, there are lots of people out there it seems who, like me, just want to record wee songs at home. And are on a tight budget.
Perhaps some form of A/B/C/etc. testing would help those folk? Focusing on how well they sound recorded? Perhaps a Vox AC4C1-12 vs. THR10 vs Vox Adio vs Blackstar (ID:CORE BEAM?) vs something similar?
Anyway, that’s my request/suggestion. Okay, one of them…
That "wide stereo" thing is an enhancement deal using phase shifts, as many small countertop CD/radios have used forever; it can be turned off in the Yamaha, otherwise apparently can mess with headphone/as line out audio. I also don't get testing a basic small unit with integrated setting options by bypassing to obfuscate using extra pedal stuff. What are we hearing, the unit or the pedal?
Goddammit, just bought a THR... Haven't watched yet but hope i'm not regretful!
That deep red PRS used on that guitar is a great color.
Just came across this video and have the VOX. If you have some record of them, what were the settings you saved for your presets?
the yamaha picks it up big time when u use it connected to a pc, its my first amp in 15 years, love it amazing technology since my old peavy bandit when i was a teen
WHY YOU'D WANT TO USE PEDALS WITH THE ADIO OR THR? :) - Hi guys! Great video! One of the reasons you might want to put pedals in front of it, would be in a recording scenario. I use the THR all the time to record, just with the USB out, straight into Logic. Cool onboard sounds, but sometimes you want some different sound. But the guitar sound part of the THR doesn't take pedals nicely, at all. The bass patch though, does (weirdly enough) work very nicely :)
I´ll go for the Yamaha anyday. It simply sound better.
Lovin the gt40. Took a lilbit but really feeling it now. Bandmaster and as Stan lee would say, Excelsior! Oh, maybe a gt40, marshal code 25, vox, and thr shootout? Pete and the pedal guy or Rabea?
Love the video, but not reviewing the app was a BIG miss. For some reason, Vox decided to leave some of the best amp models accessible by the app only, especially on the high gain side. Also there’s deeper editing with more functions, and a ton of options for modulations and time based effects. Using the app takes the Adio from a great practice amp to an incredible piece of gear. I’ve had mine now about 6 months and absolutely love it. I’ve pre-ordered the THR30II to see if it’s the best now.
Dude please report back when you get it. I have an Adio and I love it with the wide mode on, but through any of my various headphones (and I have some very good ones) it sounds completely rubbish, just fucking terrible. I hated the Fender Mustang I had years ago but at least the amp models sounded decent through headphones, the Adio is just god awful, I wonder how the new THRii fares in this respect.
How thr II is ?
the boss katana head should be in the same category as this and the yamaha thr. It has the internal 5" speaker for practice, personally I think it blows both of these away
cool thing is you just leave your cab at the rehearsal space, bring the head home for practice and back for rehearsal. get the same tone at home and with the band