@Squidmar Miniatures love your stuff, I have picked the hobby again thanks to you and was looking for some new brushes. Do you deliver the brushes to Japan and if so do you know how long would take?
My first thought was “well that’s how you make a full set of Primarchs, for the two unknown you just pick a good but vague silhouette and paint with the blackest black.”
Yes thank you so much for this! I just got into 3d printing and am looking for the darkest black possible, but I'm making jewelry so it needs some durability. I'm so happy that you also showed it with the matte varnish since it's imperative I seal my paint. Love your videos and your website! Referral links to products are in my Amazon cart!
I'd be interested to see what a zenithal highlight looks like over the musou, I'm assuming you'd see the white (obviously) then it just fades to nothing lol
Okay, so I have about 106 paints that were made specifically for minis (that is, they were produced by citadel, vallejo etc.) ,a pack of 10 cheap acrylics, 12 oil paints, one primer from vallejo, 5 enamel rattle cans, 2 refills for molotow (which I use as a primer), three pots of artistic ink, two dropper bottles of alcohol inks, and two pigments which I use for washes. So combined, it's about 151 painting utilities for miniatures.
First off: You sir, are a brave man for spraying the blackest black while wearing the whitest sweater. Second: I also like to use the MDF bases from Kromlech. They are good!
If it's that hard to see details, it wouldn't be workable as an undercoat. It would be good to see it used for black areas on a finished mini, I mean instead of painting black with dark grey and shading with black, you could probably use one of the other blacks and shade with this black.
"Lukas, come check this out!" Every video I´m watching from now on I´ll imagine Lukas sitting silent in a corner, waiting just in case you need his input for something. It´ll make the videos roughly 2% more enjoyable for me I think! :D
please use the musou black in some practical mini painting applications! I'd love to see how it looks as some shadows or, as you said, an army of void miniatures!
I really want to see it used too. My thought was having a secondary character in musou black creeping up on a primary character. When he showed all the minis in the black box, I thought it was missing!
I think using this for engine vents, or recesses that are meant to be cavities would probably be ideal both because it will not see much wear from handling, while also providing a sense of depth. Very cool; I will definitely have to pick some up!
I've had an Eldar/Aeldari army on the backburner for a long time and they are going to be painted in the Ulthwe black and bone scheme. I'm considering making the armour fairly glossy black but trying this Musou paint for the robes. It would probably give them a pretty interesting contrast despite being mostly black.
@@SquidmarMiniatures Darn it, I knew I should have also counted my box of overflow paints I don't keep at my desk, that would easily be another 100 paints. I could've been a contender. ;)
Not gonna lie. I didn't see the musou black mini when u put it in the black box. I thought u had a weird gap when u framed the shot, and only realized the miniature is there in later shots.
A zenithal would likely result in little particles getting on most of the miniature (even if you're trying to avoid painting those areas). Just a matte coat boosts the visibility by quite a bit. I think you need to do more of a reverse zenithal. Prime it with the lighter color, then spray at like 45 from the bottom of the miniature to hit the underside with black shadows. Dry brushing would probably have a similar issue. You're going to get a bunch of that lighter paint on everything. Even a very thin amount of paint is going to be a big shift in the reflectivity. Edge highlighting, since you'd be controlling exactly where it goes with a brush, would probably be the only way to really keep the deep black while having the edges pop.
I actually like black 3.0 more than musou black. Black 3.0 is so much more flat in my opinion. They're both AMAZING and mind blowing in person, but I have my preference now.
Dude, great video. Cool models too! I'd love to see you follow through on some of these ideas. Using the musou black as super dark shadows on a bust or something, a creature transforming from inky shadow into full color... Really cool!
131and counting :D I'd totally use this Musou black to half cloak, with a bright transition, some space ships. Might work, even better if you can use some white dots on top of it for stars.
I’m really looking forward to some unique miniature paint job with that paint, I would love to see a hyper contrasted figure almost fell shade style with it.
Counted this week, so far about 200 dropper bottles and 30 ish citadel pots. And some pigments and mud/watter effects. Than about 50-80 cheap acrylic paint tubes and all kinds of primers. Was just looking into how to properly store it. Printing the needed racks will take me about 3 weeks fulltime printing.
That was cool, but also helpful to see the ranking of the other blacks. I know I would love to see a video of your go to base palette of paints. (I may have missed it if you've already done one but didn't see it in a search.) Miniatures and modelling have so many base colour variations and sure you can't mix for fluorescents and metallics, but if you had to pick 12 or maybe even 24 colours from various brands in your paint arsenal what would they be? Sort of in the way you might have a go to set for watercolours. It would be super helpful to fill any gaps in my ever growing paint collection.
I would love to see you paint a Void Beast of some kind in the way you mentioned. Stepping through the void and becoming visible. Or maybe something like a Nebula Dragon. A mousou black dragon, with stars and galaxies. So many options!
I have used Blk 2.0 for minis and it ironically makes a great primer provided you let it dry completely over bare plastic, but it tends to be too soft and rub off if left exposed. the biggest problem with it is it "can" be thinned with water for use in an airbrush but it is not fun to clean out of an airbrush. If Musou Black works straight out of the pot it is looking like a winner to me, especially given how dark it stayed with that varnish on it.
I'd love to use Musou for a wizards cloak with a star/nebula kinda theme, or anything else where you want to create a void space. How well does it hold up against dry brushing? If it flecks off by touching it I can't imagine it'd perform well there.
I've had this idea for a homebrew D&D race - I call them the Illiti (singular: Illitim) - whose defining feature is their bodies absorbing all light (except their eyes, which shine). So they look like they're person-shaped voids, with two pinpricks of light looking out at you. It's basically the black mages from Final Fantasy, except as a character race. Just like the black mages, Illiti prefer to wear lots of obscuring clothing and headwear, because they're instinctively uncomfortable with being seen clearly (they are adapted to live in darkness and be stealthy, so having their presence exposed is a big trigger). Having a really black paint would be vital to properly capturing them in miniature form. Use an undercoat of Musou Black, then painting their clothing and eyes with regular color.
That blackest black could be a realy cool effect for a mini of a shadow monster. Making it always look like a silhouette even tho it phyicically has the 3D details
D&D player here. Seems like a quick way to create minis that are meant to be invisible - an alternative to buying clear plastic versions of a character. Since nothing in real life is actually that black, not even shadows or the night sky, you can't use it to paint objects, but you can use it for voids. Might be handy for painting spiderwebs, for instance. Magical effects. The inside of an open chest leading to a pocket plane. Voids in horrors from the forbidden dimensions. The inside of the mouths of a gibbering mouther. Since it's fragile, a mask-and-spray technique might work nicely.
You know, this could also be quite fun for a space marine force or other one with a high amount of flat panels. Or Batman...just for the look there. With either Black 2.0 or 3.0 a friend of mine had done some artwork with that was rather cool. He'd originally been doing some line art where it was a normal and a high gloss version of the same paint, and he moved to a few with the Black 2.0 or 3.0...not sure which he used for them, but it was over a year ago when I saw them, rather simple ways to make a very cool looking thing. With the older stuff, I'd seen him do it. Take a good flat black (he also did some with white paints), and prime the surface. He used the expensive plywood for the back for it and attached the things to hang it before painting. Then he took the image he wanted on it and used the computer to print out a stencil of it after scanning it in and carefully putting it over the wood and spraying on the other paint with an airbrush (Originally, he'd used gloss, but with some switched to the crazy blacks for some). Then he'd use a stamp of his signature in an opposing color (White for black ones/black for white ones) in the corner before sealing it. They looked awesome...unfortunately, with the lockdowns and everything, I haven't seen him since everything started...he was one of the players in the AL group I'd been in.
Around 200-230 paints, depending on if you also count varnishes, inks, pigments, texture pastes, mediums etc. Realistically I probably have enough acrylics, but I definitely need to start dabbling more with inks and enamels. These 99%+ light absorbent black's would be really good for representing things like portals or deep pits on otherwise shallow terrain. The price of Musou is a bit steep but it looks like you can pick up small samples of Black 3.0 on eBay at a reasonable price... Gah, it never ends!
Now I really want to experiment with buffed surface -> musou black -> gloss varnish -> mirror paint Have a feeling that will give an absolutely insane mirror
Is there a miniature that holds something like a mini black hole or so, where you can use this to actually transfer a nice effect with contrast to shiny purple swooshing colors?
Ok a few questions. 1: Where or how can i buy this paint 2: How does it hold up if you varnish the paint and then "handle", like a tabletop player does. 3: Is it appliable via brush? Or is there a difference in texture and look via airbrush or brush. 4: If you use it as a primer base, how does it look if you apply hobby paint untop of it.
I have a serious problem, I have 282 bottles on my desk from Vallejo, Army Painter, and Citadel. My daughter teases me and says my hobby is "collecting paint bottles" LOL. I love Army Painter's black. Nice video! Nice video.
A lictor coming out of the shadows. Infiltrators or snipers revealing themselves. A bunch of cool effects can be had SQUID! DO THE DO MAN! Show us what is possible! :)
I hardly ever use black or white paint on my minis. Both colours are almost never seen in nature. The lightest colour I use is Vallejo Ivory, the darkest is German Panzer Grey, though I do mix in a blob of craft acrylic black from a tube when I want to put shadows on the panzer grey.
The Musou Black would look cool on a Hexwraith or other spectral units. Dry brush a fluorescent colour on it as highlight could make a cool looking spectral effect against a black background.
The 2 things I would like to see this paint used for are some LOTR Nazgul models, and the other one some 40k black armoured Space Marines. Even used as airbrushed shadows, it could really make things pop a bit more.
A small terrain with this paint could be awesome, have little raised parts and put "floating" platforms throughout. Could even have little holes and led lights throughout for a spacy effect while keeping the endless pitch black look.
Blacks seem to be the first to be sold out constantly. One shop I order from in canada is constantly out of black vallejo primer, model, game, air, mecha, everything. Also Abaddon black is great for putting metallics over to cover it :)
Thanks for the video. That mussou black would be awesome on a battlefleet Gothic ship. Imagine it on a black surface... 'so where did my miniature go?' Lol
Nice vid Emil 😊 I’m not sure about Musou Black’s application on miniatures since you want to see contrast in colours. By the way I’m on 1400-1500 hobby paints and it is still growing 😂
@@SquidmarMiniaturesit’s probably a little too much for a normal minis painter to have that kind of collection of paints, but I need alot for my hobby paint mixing software, and a little bit of painting 🙂
Mosou black is substantially darker than 3.0. By a factor of 2 or 3 times blacker. Ive sprayed 5 coats of each with my airbrush and the Mosou is way, way, way blacker. Ive painted with 3.0 for the last year and thought it was great. Saw these videos a couple weeks ago and ordered the mosou. Immediately saw the difference.
What about painting over the black? Finishing with a varnish after painting the whole model? I'm wondering what kind of almost comic book shadows you could get using muso.
I own close to 800 paints. I have bought many total collections including Army painter, 2 different vallejo, and war colours. I own probably 2/3 of Citadels, some P3 and a few different color shift paints
That's impressive. I was surprised that you opened comparing to Black 3.0, but didn't include it in your test. Why wasn't it included? Does it not airbrush well? How does it compare?
It would be interesting to see how paint look on the MB. How it interacts with the mirror color. I don't think that they can be mixed. How would MB interact with mod podge as a painting foundation. 🤔 I can easily see that as a high light shadow color. Bottom of the well, cave entrance color.
I'm not a figure painter but a scale modeller. I like to test different paints to see how they behave and as it is now I've got 1000+ bottles/tins from a lot of different manufacturers. I've sold of 300+ ones so far from ranges that I didn't like. I just may have a slight problem...
My first thought was painting the head of an assassin under his cloak. Or an Diorama where something steps out of the Shadow, the dark corner completly in Mouso black and both the terraine and the mini are getting "brighter" with Vallejo black and than morphing to the normal colors of each part...This could be a realy crazy and stunning effect
That is really black like stealth aircraft are just a bit more black than that. It would be so good on stealth models, just remember to accent some parts for contrast. Also good to know Vallejo Black is the second most black!
165 paints here. About 100 GW ones then the rest are a mix of Vallejo, Green Stuff world, ProAcryl, Nocturna and a couple of Army Painter. It is me and my wife so that is between us 😁
I imagined a t-shirt this black when I was nine. I thought it would make me look completely 2D and I'm glad I got that confirmed some 23 years later. I also remember spray painting a chaos black base for the first time and I was blown away by how much that improved the look of a mini. Might still be the best paint job I ever managed, just wanted some player tokens for TTRPG campaign and realized I like writing and planing a lot better i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If you were to try edge highlighting the mussou black what colors would you use? A different shade of black or would You try using a blue or purple? I’m thinking it would be too stark a difference to use a color on this paint. Cool video!
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@Squidmar Miniatures love your stuff, I have picked the hobby again thanks to you and was looking for some new brushes. Do you deliver the brushes to Japan and if so do you know how long would take?
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Hey Squidmar, love the vid! How/where do I get the paint? I did a bit of research and I can't seem to get it.
I think the most important takeaway from this is that you can now use Vallejo black as an edge highlight ...
It's like you haven't unlocked that character yet
Lego Star Wars be like
My first thought was “well that’s how you make a full set of Primarchs, for the two unknown you just pick a good but vague silhouette and paint with the blackest black.”
The Musou black mini straight up looks like a photoshopped silhouette. Like, "who's that Pokémon? Haha it's actually literally just a black shadow."
Would love to see how the Musou black plays when mixed with other colours.
Yeah that's what I was expecting, such an underwhelming video lol
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@@iggiboi2501 imagine being so sensitive that you get mad at people for having an opinion. Wild.
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@One Decent Machinist my god I apologized stop coming for me
614 miniature paints. Yep, I have a problem.
- 450 Reaper
- 118 Vallejo
- 15 Citadel
- 6 Army Painter washes
- 25 Daler-Rowney inks
Coming soon:
- 62 Pro Acryl paints
You have so many paints you stopped using colors and now your just using random words lol..
Interesting that only about 2% of your collection is Citadel. Would love to see your setup, cheers!
Thank you for being like the only person I've seen so far who tested Musou black with varnish.
Yes thank you so much for this! I just got into 3d printing and am looking for the darkest black possible, but I'm making jewelry so it needs some durability. I'm so happy that you also showed it with the matte varnish since it's imperative I seal my paint. Love your videos and your website! Referral links to products are in my Amazon cart!
This is perfect for scary marines. You basecoat ultra-black then just add a red glow to the eyes.
Raven Guard or straight up have Corax painted with it :D even the Night Lords would $hit their pants
The Blackest Templars
With the slightest hint of pure white edge highlighting. it adds that extra flavor of edge.
do you know how badass a legion of the damned would be with this?
there you go! "shadow legion"
We need a follow up where you properly paint a model and experiment with its uses!
"Black as midnight, black as pitch, blacker than the foulest witch...."
Even blacker than Black Magic Craft? *hmmm*
Blix get back in your cage...
Legend!
EPIC film.
Blix!
Off the top of my head I have at least 323 paints, I may have a problem..
You're the first one, but you pretty much double me! :D
Why am I not surprised? :D
How is that a problem? If it's actually sorted so you can find stuff readily, that's a beautiful state of affairs...
I wish lol. Paint is so expensive XD
I'd be interested to see what a zenithal highlight looks like over the musou, I'm assuming you'd see the white (obviously) then it just fades to nothing lol
Okay, so I have about 106 paints that were made specifically for minis (that is, they were produced by citadel, vallejo etc.) ,a pack of 10 cheap acrylics, 12 oil paints, one primer from vallejo, 5 enamel rattle cans, 2 refills for molotow (which I use as a primer), three pots of artistic ink, two dropper bottles of alcohol inks, and two pigments which I use for washes.
So combined, it's about 151 painting utilities for miniatures.
Mosou black makes every other black paint look like a dark grey, thats crazy! Mosou also just looks like a unlockable character
First off: You sir, are a brave man for spraying the blackest black while wearing the whitest sweater. Second: I also like to use the MDF bases from Kromlech. They are good!
Really curious to see how the Musou undercoat affected the final look of a completed mini.
If it's that hard to see details, it wouldn't be workable as an undercoat. It would be good to see it used for black areas on a finished mini, I mean instead of painting black with dark grey and shading with black, you could probably use one of the other blacks and shade with this black.
@@kaneworsnop1007 imagine it being used on something like a mandrake from the Dark Eldar. Deep, pitch black with green highlights on the flames
@@theshadowling1 or Raven guard marine
@@theshadowling1 One of my first thoughts, could look absolutely rad
Looks like it's to fragile to paint on top of, unless you varnish it.
"Lukas, come check this out!" Every video I´m watching from now on I´ll imagine Lukas sitting silent in a corner, waiting just in case you need his input for something. It´ll make the videos roughly 2% more enjoyable for me I think! :D
I really think you should haha
please use the musou black in some practical mini painting applications! I'd love to see how it looks as some shadows or, as you said, an army of void miniatures!
I really want to see it used too. My thought was having a secondary character in musou black creeping up on a primary character. When he showed all the minis in the black box, I thought it was missing!
Squidmar is the new Black
I think using this for engine vents, or recesses that are meant to be cavities would probably be ideal both because it will not see much wear from handling, while also providing a sense of depth. Very cool; I will definitely have to pick some up!
I've had an Eldar/Aeldari army on the backburner for a long time and they are going to be painted in the Ulthwe black and bone scheme. I'm considering making the armour fairly glossy black but trying this Musou paint for the robes. It would probably give them a pretty interesting contrast despite being mostly black.
Imagine a c'tan shard of the nightbringer with musou black and just a bit of highlight and glowing eyes
Still brighter than my future
Great video brother, very interesting. Since the question was asked, I have 881 paints in ready access at my painting desk. ;)
I thought it would be past thousands haha. I think you're in second place so far 😁
@@SquidmarMiniatures Darn it, I knew I should have also counted my box of overflow paints I don't keep at my desk, that would easily be another 100 paints. I could've been a contender. ;)
Haha its very likely you'll be nr1🤯😁
Damn, OK now I have to buy more paints... Scale75 collectors box looks fine right now.
I would love to see the Musou black used in an actual pant job! It would be interesting to see how it layers and contrasts with other colours!
Not gonna lie. I didn't see the musou black mini when u put it in the black box. I thought u had a weird gap when u framed the shot, and only realized the miniature is there in later shots.
Please tell me you attempted a zenithal highlight! I would love to see what that does on the Musou black and how the contrast would look! 👌
My thoughts exactly. A zenithal with this could be really cool
Zenital lightning with the brightest white on musou black. Or also drybrush with the brightest white.
Yeeees I was thinking this the whole time. I want to see someone use it in a full painted model
A zenithal would likely result in little particles getting on most of the miniature (even if you're trying to avoid painting those areas). Just a matte coat boosts the visibility by quite a bit. I think you need to do more of a reverse zenithal. Prime it with the lighter color, then spray at like 45 from the bottom of the miniature to hit the underside with black shadows.
Dry brushing would probably have a similar issue. You're going to get a bunch of that lighter paint on everything. Even a very thin amount of paint is going to be a big shift in the reflectivity. Edge highlighting, since you'd be controlling exactly where it goes with a brush, would probably be the only way to really keep the deep black while having the edges pop.
How about a vallejo model black as a zenithal and then some edge lighting?
Props to Squidmar to edit out all the models with the musou black and photoshop a void in there
Now let's see it used in a creative way.
To quote Nathan Explosion: "we will make it blacker then the blackest black times infinity."
A Raven Guard Space Marine In this would be amazing.
Musou black + mirror paint for the most extreme contrast.
Can't wait to use this paint in dioramas with reflective eyes in a dark forest.
MUSOU Black is brighter than my future.
Finally a paint fit for the Raven guard
I actually like black 3.0 more than musou black. Black 3.0 is so much more flat in my opinion. They're both AMAZING and mind blowing in person, but I have my preference now.
After 25 years in the hobby easily over 400 (pots of) paint. No regrets.
Dude, great video. Cool models too!
I'd love to see you follow through on some of these ideas. Using the musou black as super dark shadows on a bust or something, a creature transforming from inky shadow into full color... Really cool!
It would be interesting to see a comparison between this and black 3.0. Not just color but properties of how it works for minis.
131and counting :D
I'd totally use this Musou black to half cloak, with a bright transition, some space ships. Might work, even better if you can use some white dots on top of it for stars.
Dipyourcar used musou black with star like stuff :D Maybe wanna check that out
I’m really looking forward to some unique miniature paint job with that paint, I would love to see a hyper contrasted figure almost fell shade style with it.
Counted this week, so far about 200 dropper bottles and 30 ish citadel pots. And some pigments and mud/watter effects.
Than about 50-80 cheap acrylic paint tubes and all kinds of primers.
Was just looking into how to properly store it.
Printing the needed racks will take me about 3 weeks fulltime printing.
That was cool, but also helpful to see the ranking of the other blacks.
I know I would love to see a video of your go to base palette of paints. (I may have missed it if you've already done one but didn't see it in a search.) Miniatures and modelling have so many base colour variations and sure you can't mix for fluorescents and metallics, but if you had to pick 12 or maybe even 24 colours from various brands in your paint arsenal what would they be? Sort of in the way you might have a go to set for watercolours. It would be super helpful to fill any gaps in my ever growing paint collection.
Have you tried painting on it or just painting certain parts with a brush? I'm thinking it'd be cool for certain details
Dude is out here painting in a long sleeve white shirt. What an absolute mad-lad.
That color is insane! literally turns the mini into a shadow.
I wanna see the musou mini get some regular colors added to it. Curious what it would do with the visibility of everything having "empty" segments
I would love to see you paint a Void Beast of some kind in the way you mentioned. Stepping through the void and becoming visible. Or maybe something like a Nebula Dragon. A mousou black dragon, with stars and galaxies. So many options!
That first comparison around the 5 minute mark on the turn table was crazy. The Musou black figure had like a black nimbus around it.
I'm wondering how it would look like with some neon-color thin details on Musou black
I have used Blk 2.0 for minis and it ironically makes a great primer provided you let it dry completely over bare plastic, but it tends to be too soft and rub off if left exposed. the biggest problem with it is it "can" be thinned with water for use in an airbrush but it is not fun to clean out of an airbrush. If Musou Black works straight out of the pot it is looking like a winner to me, especially given how dark it stayed with that varnish on it.
I'd love to use Musou for a wizards cloak with a star/nebula kinda theme, or anything else where you want to create a void space.
How well does it hold up against dry brushing? If it flecks off by touching it I can't imagine it'd perform well there.
Probably one of the best hobby vids I've watched in ages, cheers.
The musou black makes the miniature look like you have not unlocked the character yet.
That is amazing!
Wonder how it looks like if you give it a really slight dry brush with an Color
11:13 You can see the black box is literally projecting a shadow on to his face.
That's insane.
I've had this idea for a homebrew D&D race - I call them the Illiti (singular: Illitim) - whose defining feature is their bodies absorbing all light (except their eyes, which shine). So they look like they're person-shaped voids, with two pinpricks of light looking out at you. It's basically the black mages from Final Fantasy, except as a character race. Just like the black mages, Illiti prefer to wear lots of obscuring clothing and headwear, because they're instinctively uncomfortable with being seen clearly (they are adapted to live in darkness and be stealthy, so having their presence exposed is a big trigger).
Having a really black paint would be vital to properly capturing them in miniature form. Use an undercoat of Musou Black, then painting their clothing and eyes with regular color.
Gotta love the way you built up the story telling on it all. Very interesting video!
Awesome video. That mini was so black. I really want to create creepy sinister shadows trying to get someone with that black it’s so great.
That blackest black could be a realy cool effect for a mini of a shadow monster. Making it always look like a silhouette even tho it phyicically has the 3D details
I think we've found the colour that Hotblack Desiato's ship was painted o_O
Good call on that, but the buttons on the control panels inside could be seen so they must have had varnish applied after painting :)
Being dead is tax deductible, after all
Let's bring this comment up to 42 likes and stop there. Just because.
Exactly what I thought...
It's, like, so black.
D&D player here. Seems like a quick way to create minis that are meant to be invisible - an alternative to buying clear plastic versions of a character. Since nothing in real life is actually that black, not even shadows or the night sky, you can't use it to paint objects, but you can use it for voids. Might be handy for painting spiderwebs, for instance. Magical effects. The inside of an open chest leading to a pocket plane. Voids in horrors from the forbidden dimensions. The inside of the mouths of a gibbering mouther. Since it's fragile, a mask-and-spray technique might work nicely.
You know, this could also be quite fun for a space marine force or other one with a high amount of flat panels.
Or Batman...just for the look there.
With either Black 2.0 or 3.0 a friend of mine had done some artwork with that was rather cool. He'd originally been doing some line art where it was a normal and a high gloss version of the same paint, and he moved to a few with the Black 2.0 or 3.0...not sure which he used for them, but it was over a year ago when I saw them, rather simple ways to make a very cool looking thing.
With the older stuff, I'd seen him do it. Take a good flat black (he also did some with white paints), and prime the surface. He used the expensive plywood for the back for it and attached the things to hang it before painting. Then he took the image he wanted on it and used the computer to print out a stencil of it after scanning it in and carefully putting it over the wood and spraying on the other paint with an airbrush (Originally, he'd used gloss, but with some switched to the crazy blacks for some). Then he'd use a stamp of his signature in an opposing color (White for black ones/black for white ones) in the corner before sealing it.
They looked awesome...unfortunately, with the lockdowns and everything, I haven't seen him since everything started...he was one of the players in the AL group I'd been in.
Around 200-230 paints, depending on if you also count varnishes, inks, pigments, texture pastes, mediums etc. Realistically I probably have enough acrylics, but I definitely need to start dabbling more with inks and enamels.
These 99%+ light absorbent black's would be really good for representing things like portals or deep pits on otherwise shallow terrain. The price of Musou is a bit steep but it looks like you can pick up small samples of Black 3.0 on eBay at a reasonable price... Gah, it never ends!
Now I really want to experiment with buffed surface -> musou black -> gloss varnish -> mirror paint
Have a feeling that will give an absolutely insane mirror
Is there a miniature that holds something like a mini black hole or so, where you can use this to actually transfer a nice effect with contrast to shiny purple swooshing colors?
I have Black 2.0. Use it for deeper shadows where you want that devouring darkness feeling. Works great for hooded wraiths.
Some necron characters have some orbs that would look good with that theme
It could actually be really useful giving the illusion of a deep pit or something
id really love to see this with some lighting effects painted on it.
Ok a few questions.
1: Where or how can i buy this paint
2: How does it hold up if you varnish the paint and then "handle", like a tabletop player does.
3: Is it appliable via brush? Or is there a difference in texture and look via airbrush or brush.
4: If you use it as a primer base, how does it look if you apply hobby paint untop of it.
I have a serious problem, I have 282 bottles on my desk from Vallejo, Army Painter, and Citadel. My daughter teases me and says my hobby is "collecting paint bottles" LOL. I love Army Painter's black. Nice video! Nice video.
A lictor coming out of the shadows. Infiltrators or snipers revealing themselves. A bunch of cool effects can be had SQUID! DO THE DO MAN! Show us what is possible! :)
I hardly ever use black or white paint on my minis. Both colours are almost never seen in nature. The lightest colour I use is Vallejo Ivory, the darkest is German Panzer Grey, though I do mix in a blob of craft acrylic black from a tube when I want to put shadows on the panzer grey.
The Musou Black would look cool on a Hexwraith or other spectral units. Dry brush a fluorescent colour on it as highlight could make a cool looking spectral effect against a black background.
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This is an amazing color. I can imagine doing some really cool effects with mouso.
The 2 things I would like to see this paint used for are some LOTR Nazgul models, and the other one some 40k black armoured Space Marines. Even used as airbrushed shadows, it could really make things pop a bit more.
A small terrain with this paint could be awesome, have little raised parts and put "floating" platforms throughout. Could even have little holes and led lights throughout for a spacy effect while keeping the endless pitch black look.
This could make some really cool drukhari mandrakes. Black silhouettes with some glowing eyes and other details maybe.
what's your process for airbrushing Vallejo model color compared to model air? I would really like to know how to properly airbrush the stuff.
Blacks seem to be the first to be sold out constantly. One shop I order from in canada is constantly out of black vallejo primer, model, game, air, mecha, everything. Also Abaddon black is great for putting metallics over to cover it :)
I used to have necrons myself but your work is just art
Imagine that black with just a weapon OSL!
Oh ye especially if it was on a blade with stars painted on it or something like that, that would look seriously cool
Thanks for the video.
That mussou black would be awesome on a battlefleet Gothic ship.
Imagine it on a black surface...
'so where did my miniature go?'
Lol
Nice vid Emil 😊
I’m not sure about Musou Black’s application on miniatures since you want to see contrast in colours.
By the way I’m on 1400-1500 hobby paints and it is still growing 😂
I think you're in a clear lead by like 4-500 paints in this comment section haha :D
@@SquidmarMiniaturesit’s probably a little too much for a normal minis painter to have that kind of collection of paints, but I need alot for my hobby paint mixing software, and a little bit of painting 🙂
The was the best “subscribed to me” plug I’ve ever seen haha!
Mosou black is substantially darker than 3.0. By a factor of 2 or 3 times blacker. Ive sprayed 5 coats of each with my airbrush and the Mosou is way, way, way blacker. Ive painted with 3.0 for the last year and thought it was great. Saw these videos a couple weeks ago and ordered the mosou. Immediately saw the difference.
What about painting over the black? Finishing with a varnish after painting the whole model? I'm wondering what kind of almost comic book shadows you could get using muso.
Love those Titanforge miniatures, they have my pledge 👍
I own close to 800 paints. I have bought many total collections including Army painter, 2 different vallejo, and war colours. I own probably 2/3 of Citadels, some P3 and a few different color shift paints
Wow that would be great for painting and adding holes. Thats really good
That's impressive. I was surprised that you opened comparing to Black 3.0, but didn't include it in your test. Why wasn't it included? Does it not airbrush well? How does it compare?
took 4 weeks to arrive from when we ordered. video was recorded and published when we got it :/
Excellent choice for black history month👌
It would be interesting to see how paint look on the MB.
How it interacts with the mirror color. I don't think that they can be mixed.
How would MB interact with mod podge as a painting foundation. 🤔
I can easily see that as a high light shadow color. Bottom of the well, cave entrance color.
50 shades of black, huh? That Musou was intense!
I'm not a figure painter but a scale modeller. I like to test different paints to see how they behave and as it is now I've got 1000+ bottles/tins from a lot of different manufacturers. I've sold of 300+ ones so far from ranges that I didn't like. I just may have a slight problem...
My first thought was painting the head of an assassin under his cloak.
Or an Diorama where something steps out of the Shadow, the dark corner completly in Mouso black and both the terraine and the mini are getting "brighter" with Vallejo black and than morphing to the normal colors of each part...This could be a realy crazy and stunning effect
That is really black like stealth aircraft are just a bit more black than that. It would be so good on stealth models, just remember to accent some parts for contrast. Also good to know Vallejo Black is the second most black!
THE AIRBRUSH AT 4:20 !! You cheeky devil
165 paints here. About 100 GW ones then the rest are a mix of Vallejo, Green Stuff world, ProAcryl, Nocturna and a couple of Army Painter.
It is me and my wife so that is between us 😁
I imagined a t-shirt this black when I was nine. I thought it would make me look completely 2D and I'm glad I got that confirmed some 23 years later. I also remember spray painting a chaos black base for the first time and I was blown away by how much that improved the look of a mini. Might still be the best paint job I ever managed, just wanted some player tokens for TTRPG campaign and realized I like writing and planing a lot better i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If you were to try edge highlighting the mussou black what colors would you use? A different shade of black or would You try using a blue or purple? I’m thinking it would be too stark a difference to use a color on this paint.
Cool video!