Sounds similar to Fade from Apex Mobile. Both Phantom and Fade have a movement passive, a movement tactical and a void grenade. Instead of a double jump Fade gets a speed boost after sliding, instead of a hook shot Fade gets a rewind of his movement but both ultimates are the same idea of a void based grenade. Maybe Phantom was a draft of Fade
the void grenade could be used to blind the enimes so your team can reposition around them but you can also hide yourself, i think it would give players in the void a purple trail like wraith when she void jumps so you can see them but not you
But you can see people in the void But yeah it will have a lot of Playground would be nice to push a team and if you frow it on 1 or 2 enemys they can't help there mates
Nah why tf y'all already makin up these fucking ideas hell nah bro💀 if this shit true I'm ratting every game, I'm be DAMNED if my friends get tossed into the void just so i can get jumped. Y'all are something else😭
Void grenade definitely looks useful. Just depends how quick you can throw it and how long it lasts. Could be very good late game to rotate. Should definitely last a little longer than what it does in the firing range since it’s an ultimate and not a wraith tactical. 6 or 7 seconds would be really effective to move the team or buy time.
I would love to have phantom in the game, I would definitely Main them when they release it just seems so fun and awesome for movement interested players like me
It reminded me that the wraith we have is from another reality and she swapped with the voidwalker wraith from the apex verse that was most likely a pilot, so potentially if we ever get a Titanfall 3, it could be set in the other verse that voidwalker was left in, to avoid any plot holes with the apex games
Void Granade: If u cant see other players, on the enemy to reposition without them knowing or if u can see other players, on ur team to get out of sticky situation.
I'm Japanese and use Google Translate. How to use Ultimate Abilities I've thought about some, so I'll introduce them. ① Use in the same way as Wraith ・ Move safely ・ Escape from the enemy ② Use instead of portal ・ The ring is shrinking ・ Go to a place with a shield ③ Protect allies ・ When the physical strength of allies is low ・ Allies are being fired ④ Restrict the actions of the enemy While in the void ・ Opening and closing doors ・ Use of abilities -Gun shooting-Use of ally abilities ... and other actions are restricted, so if you use it ... ・ Since the enemy cannot get on the jump pad, There is no follow-up ・ If you close the door, you will not be able to open the opponent in the void. There is no follow-up I think it will be possible to use it tactically. 私は日本人で、グーグル翻訳を使っています。 アルティメットアビリティの使い方を いくつか考えたので紹介します。 ①レイスと同じように使う ・安全に移動をする ・敵から逃げる ②ポータル代わりに使う ・リングが縮小している ・遮蔽物がある場所へ行く ③味方を守る ・味方の体力が少ない時 ・味方が集中砲火されている ④敵の行動を制限 虚空に入っている間は ・ドアの開閉 ・アビリティの使用 ・銃の射撃 ・味方のアビリティの使用 ...等の行動が制限されるので、それを利用すれば... ・敵はジャンプパッドに乗れなくなるので、 追ってこれない ・ドアを閉めれば虚空状態の相手は開けず、 追ってこれない という風に、戦術的な使用が可能になると私は考えます。
@@simplysage3562 it’s a “double” jump. Of course you can’t jump again until you hit the ground. He means add a limit to the double jumps so people don’t move around so crazy.
I feel like if the double jump was a little hop, and not a full jump it would be alright It's not like you could follow up the double jump with a wallrun
I love how they're willing to add another complex movement legend (even tho I was kinda hoping for a wallrunning to be in the game). As for the ultimate, it would be very interesting but imo pretty weak if it's not on a very short timer...
Think it should be an instant explosion but quite small range. If it has a timer, it can be easily dodged, unless the range is very large, and if the range is large it kinda defeats the point of choosing to use it to either a team mate or an enemy, but instead just hitting all.
@@tuomassaarinen147 I meant a timer on the ult recharge, because it's such a tricky ultimate to use it shouldn't be too punishing to miss it (I'm guessing a cooldown closer to Octane's jumpad or Loba's market than Bangalore's missiles As for the actual explosion, I think it's fine as it is in the leak : a bit shorter startup than Wraith's Q, so that you can easily react if you use it defensively but the enemies can't react if they are unaware when used offensively...
@@johanngalland6188 Okay gotcha. I am interested to see how it pans out, but it doesn't seem to be too powerful. Anyways, this legend has such an interesting tool set, and the double jump passive might even end up being problematically OP when in hands of a top level player.
The void grenade sounds really good, either defense wise and attack. Good for late game rotations and to isolate 1 enemy players while attacking the rest. Hope he comes out soon
Phantom sounds like a really good poke legend. If you've gotta get out of a 3v1 against another team, you can use your double jump to juke them out around a corner, throw your void grenade into the air so it lands on the team chasing you, and then use your tactical to reposition up high or behind them and give them the slip
This legend has such an awesome kit. The void nade can be used in so many ways. I wonder if you can heal and res teammates while in it, since you just exist there and not get teleported like in the other void ults. That would maybe be a bit op, but a great way to counter third parties.
just hit 2 members of the enemy team and jump the third. then before they come out, just track them and kill them since you can't start shooting right after the time out
I think they should do that but to balance it make it so you can ya store the second double jump and make it weaker than the first jump Edit: I hate my phones auto correct
@@ゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝ the very definition of agile is to move ur body quickly and and easily. Gameplay wise he is indeed fast with his stalker passive. Lore wise he is able to climb buildings swiftly to hunt down his bounty. His body is meant to break the limitations of the human body. Indeed he is a ruthless killer but he is indeed agile. Hes able to take down an army of security because of his agility, after all he isnt indestructible
The void grenade sounds like it is useful for isolating enemy team. Like a temporary kidnap. Would allow you to potentiall 3v2/1 before the other guy gets back
Personally, this is the legend I'm most excited for I just love their kit. I'd probably use the void grenade either on the enemy team so we can leave fights or if I'm in ring 3-4 I'll use it on my team to get us in ring then maybe in late game rings I would use it to give us better cover or rotate to a better position
Imagine that phantom is another project (test lab subject) like wraith before (hope), and she escape from the lab like wraith (as the storyline video) but they never met until phantom comes to apex games. Or it's Wraith but from another time and space, another dimension, another parallel universe.
If Phantom is actually going to be put in the game then they would be my main because I play Titanfall and I love the fast moving pace to that game and it seems like this character would be fun to move around with.
Since they’re masked, and have access to phase tech. In a broad scenario there’s a possibility of “Phantom” being the Wraith from our version of the games. Would be wild lore lol
i can see some uses for the void grenade, you can use it to confuse the enemy team and reposition around them, or throw it on your own team and escape, slow the enemy to reload both guns / heal and reposition, it would be really useful in my opinion if it slowed down the enemy, since they can use the void advantage to escape you
I've been a Wraith Main since literally Day 1 of Apex Legends, though I sometimes switch over to Octane for a bit but from what I've seen here I'll absolutely become a Phantom Main once he launches! His Kit sounds amazing, especially his Passive and Tactical will be a lot of fun for Titanfall 2 Players like me :D Void Grenade also sounds extremely useful offensively as well as defensively (if used right of course). Great Content, keep it up man :)
I think it would be really cool if phantom could have a phase tactical where they could phase through a wall or just phase through bullets for half a second
They might be saving that for Blisk who they have been working on since day one, but scrapping him. My theory as to why they haven't put someone like Blisk or Cooper in the game is because they can't think of a way to make them strong enough that it will fit the lore without making them op. Ash is the strongest legend by lore, but only mid tier in game and we don't want something like that again.
They put the grenade into mobile on the character Fade. It’s much more useful when using it to push enemies because they don’t expect it, and being voided isn’t great for your team because enemies can follow the trail, like a wraith tactical, and shoot you during the buffer before you pull out your gun.
I dreamed up a character called phantom a while ago. Surprisingly similar. Class: assault Description: ghostly operator. Passive: detection interference Completely undetectable by passive recon abilities (bloodhound tracking, seer heartbeat sensor.) All active scans last 1/2 as long (eotaf, foa, pathfinder ring scan) Crypto drone and valk flyover must be 2x as close to scan him. Aoe scan abilities have a 3sec delay before they can reveal him (seer ult). Is highlighted by motherlode, marked for death, and newt. Is not highlighted by threat detector. very quiet but not silent. Tac: shadow dash Quickly dash in the direction you are looking. Leaves faint trail that disappears ~ 3 sec later. Dash in a straight line up to 15m. Can dash shorter distances by looking at the ground where you want to stop. Can dash over open air. Can use to jump to ledges/into the air. Dashing to a ledge will mount it (small indicator for mountable ledges when tac is readied.) It isn’t teleportation so you still hit things in your path fence/gas/silence/well timed bullets/etc. you can also maintain some momentum when you “land” so Dashing while crouching will leave you sliding. quicker animations and ready time than Loba teleport. 30 sec cooldown. 2 charges. Can be used in rapid succession without having to exit the animation. Ult: isolation “welcome to my world” Create a large sphere (1/2 size of seer ult) that obscures and mutes everything inside. Has a similar appearance to rift on Olympus. The wall is nearly entirely opaque from the inside and out. Lasts ~ 15 sec. highlights enemies that enter through the walls briefly. Enemies inside cannot send pings to their teamates outside. Bullets and abilities can pass through, however no sound can escape the sphere.
Was exceptional militia pilot. Very friendly and happy go lucky but a complete battle junkie. Got fatally wounded. Asked to be turned into a sim so he could keep fighting. Had a buddy who was working in the sim project. Asked buddy to remove the programming that prevents sims from recognizing themselves as sims. Due to his overwhelming borderline narcissistic sense of “self” he managed to completely maintain his ego and sanity (he thinks being an immortal murder bot is cool.) After the war he became a mercenary trying to rekindle the thrill of combat. But after years of “boring work” he hears about the apex games. After sneaking into them and causing his fair share of chaos in active games he is officially recruited so he would stop ruining games in progress. (Teaser is that isolation bubble will randomly appear on maps and when they disappear there are three death boxes inside.) He isn’t looking for fame or glory. He doesn’t need money. He has no blood feuds. He’s just here to have fun in the best way he knows how.
I even came up with some quips! “Hey buddy, you’re buggin out. something wrong? Oh that’s right, the bullets.” “Come on man, my cat would’ve survived longer than you” “It takes a genius to kill as well as I do” “I hate to do this to you but I need you to shut up” “Does anyone smell burning toast? I can’t smell so I was just wondering” “Sure, simulacrum don’t feel physical pain, but words still hurt” “This isn’t anything like the battlefield… it’s so much more fun!” “Tell all the other losers I said hi” “Y’know I canceled my plans for this. Such a good decision” “Don’t worry guys, I’m not like those crazy murder bots that you know, I’m the fun kind!” “It takes a special kinda person to kill me for good, too bad I haven’t met them yet” “And here I am tryna have fun. Didn’t realize you were gonna be so boring” “If you were better you wouldn’t be dead. Yet.” “I sure do miss chocolate milkshakes, but basically being immortal has its perks too” “Ha hahaha hahahahahahah HAHAHAHAHAHA!” “I came here for entertainment, so entertain me.” “Have you considered not dying?” “Hmph, not bad” “You’re kill leader? But I wanted to be kill leader!” “That was disappointing. Aren’t you supposed to be a legend?”
If this leak is true then My theory is that phantom is the perfected version of the voidwalker experiments. Wraith was just the Guinea pig and throughout the testing phantom was just an empty shell that was eventually trained to be the perfect wraith
Depending on the time in the void (if the final product differs from what's shown here) you can pull a lifeline Rez on a teammate and ensure they're not damaged. You can separate enemies from their teammates for easy picks, or use it on a downed enemy or their lifeline/ teammate to deny a Rez. It also depends on if you can use equipment in the void such as a shield cell/ bat. Or if it lasts long enough for a phoenix. Lots of conditions not yet known but the potential is definitely there for skilled players to have a lot of options on how to use it.
In mobile, Fade’s ultimate is just like Wraith’s tactical in that you go to the void, but it’s in the form of a grenade. Only it lasts like 3 seconds and has a detrimental affect on enemies. It marks and slow enemies.
basically Genji from overwatch mixed with Skye from paladin than can be invisible due to her smoke grenade and the grapple hook is from Widowmake from overwatch XD
Im not entirely sure but the void grenade could probably give your enemies a advantage (which would be stupid but this is just a thought) and the reason why is because they can probably see you and move to a different spot to catch you off guard
Funny thing about that jump kit, somebody just found audio files from viper ( Valkyries dad in titanfall 2) in apex linked to a legend named Phantom so it kinda makes sense to have a jump kit since he is from titanfall
Honestly seems pretty balanced, that passive is neat for mobility, same with the tactical, very similar to horizon, wraith, and Bangalore in the sense of mobility. As for the ultimate, that definitely seems like an ultimate style ability, the hardest part about balancing that though would be for setting times of cooldown and effect.
I think void grenade Is better used for teammates for any situation since you will have the element of surprise and invulnerablity on your side. Using it on the enemies will likely to be result in ambush or enemy position themselves in more favorable positions to wipe out your squad more efficiently.
If this really appears as a legend and has lore linking to Wraith I got a good idea for a finisher. It'd be phantom walking over and stabbing an enemy like normal but instead it's Wraith's knife so alt universe Wraith comes out of nowhere and snatches it from them through a portal and they're just left with their gun.
I feel like the void grenade could be use to take space. For example say your in a bubble fight so you throw you grenade in the bubble forcing the enemy team out and if they don't leave you can take space without any repreconsions. The other way I would use it is to take out one or two enemy so you could focus fire on other targets relieving pressure. I can see this character being very good in ranked
the void grenade concept is already in the mobile version as fade's ult and its called void or phase chamber and it does the same thing except that it doesn't apply on you and your teammates
Double jump for a passive? Definitely overpowered. I think for a better balance. Their passive should be silent footsteps and a slightly higher climb. Tactical should be double jump (so that it'll be on a timer, maybe like 45 seconds) Void grenade seems fine if it does no damage and if the other plays can heal
The Double Jump passive may be a little stronger than we think. The reason being that if we assume tap-strafing (which is currently maxed out to 90 degree turns) is tied to 1 jump action, then you can probably do a second tap strafe on the second jump (potentially allowing you to do 180 degree turns). Imagine the insane potential of juking people again and the insane potential of parkour to scale buildings and cliffs quickly.
A really overlooked fact about the passive is that he can basically negate the fall stun - if he double jumps before hitting the ground he can just keep running basically making it horizons passive but way way better
i'd use the void grenade as a sort of escape from gas for my team, or escape from things like gibby ults to get out . thermites and other throwables you could use it to set up traps like throwing that then your team either getting closer throwing grenades to where they run to even showing positions as they might usually try run an leave a trail if it's like wraith voids.
If you are playing solo and you want to isolate a player to reduce the preasure the grenade will be usefull. helps you get the knock on that one player as the rest are in the void . in the end ring it can help you last abit longer with your team mates
I'm titan fall 2 there was a passive where you had a hook, it held you on the wall just like that, but you had to already be on the wall, the grappling hook was the one pathfinder has. That hook type is new but the grapple hook hold onto wall thing already exists.
This could be the other scientist that was working with wraith, he work a Hammond and got promoted and was given a titan and pilot jump kit he then found a way to contain the wraith ability, hence the void grenade, it would be cool if his tactical is a cloak and that his passive can wallrun.
Phantom was a scientist who studied wraiths phase project and went through the void to track her down bcuz one of her other dimension wraiths destroyed a bunch of stuff in a different dimension. So he’s hunting down wraiths
This Legend seems very powerful but balanced at the same time. It's likely that he's going to be different when he actually gets released just like most other unreleased Legends. I just hope his passive stays the same or is stronger or goes to dif legend
Sounds like a mix between a destiny 2 hunter with the void subclass and a mini pathfinder. Interesting take, and I would add that if the void grenade was the equivalent to the warlock nova bomb in D2, that should be an incredible ult for this legend
for sure use it for team to reposition on lets say a gibby ult or third party rush that ult could open your roster to different characters because now everyone has wraith q so you could use more for a push build and have the nade ready and even gibby will have that oh crap button if everyone plays together correctly
U can use the void to escape anything horizon ult caustic ult u can use it to push newcastle u can use it to rotate against mirage or u can use it on mirage to find him since it is an area splash etc
double jump + tap strafe is gonna be insane. Especially if people figure out how to cancel the grapple ability and keep the speed and combine a double jump + tap strafe. instant insane momentum.
This guy's passive is SO overpowered. It should have a slow down effect like octanes jump pad, and a sound effect like horizon when she lands from a height.
Apparently from other people, they say that the void grenade sends you into the void like wraiths tactical and ultimate but people can shoot you but you can’t shoot them, of course this would be for a very short time because otherwise it would be extremely broken especially if you had a high power/fire rate gun.
Sounds similar to Fade from Apex Mobile. Both Phantom and Fade have a movement passive, a movement tactical and a void grenade. Instead of a double jump Fade gets a speed boost after sliding, instead of a hook shot Fade gets a rewind of his movement but both ultimates are the same idea of a void based grenade.
Maybe Phantom was a draft of Fade
Passive is better than fade
Fades speed boost isn’t that fast…
they should add fade to the original game at this point
Wait there’s legends in apex legends mobile that arent in regular apex legends?? No fair!
@@cooldawg2009 theres like 10 legends on pc that aint in mobile so whats unfair again?
the void grenade could be used to blind the enimes so your team can reposition around them but you can also hide yourself, i think it would give players in the void a purple trail like wraith when she void jumps so you can see them but not you
But you can see people in the void
But yeah it will have a lot of Playground would be nice to push a team and if you frow it on 1 or 2 enemys they can't help there mates
But u can see in the void tho , i think its good to make a fight a 3v2 for a few secs
@@caimang3194 you can't see other players when in the void only the environment, you also leave a trail if you move in the void
@@Digimonchamp1 yes u can tho
Flashbangs don’t need to be in this game
Let’s see, send them to the void so you can shield swap,
Send it on two enemies so you can 1v1-3v1 the other enemy,
Gigabrain👀🤣
Exactly my thoughts. Another good Legend for stalking prey
Sounds balanced
@@DiscoCubeHD sounds FUN
Nah why tf y'all already makin up these fucking ideas hell nah bro💀 if this shit true I'm ratting every game, I'm be DAMNED if my friends get tossed into the void just so i can get jumped. Y'all are something else😭
Void grenade definitely looks useful. Just depends how quick you can throw it and how long it lasts. Could be very good late game to rotate. Should definitely last a little longer than what it does in the firing range since it’s an ultimate and not a wraith tactical. 6 or 7 seconds would be really effective to move the team or buy time.
but you can use it on the enemy meaning that it would be to strong if you just used it on 1 or 2 enemys to kill the rest
@@offfreakyy741 Hey there’s caustic ult, rev totem, gibby ult. I don’t see your point.
That's in the mobile game now
I would love to have phantom in the game, I would definitely Main them when they release it just seems so fun and awesome for movement interested players like me
Same
Yeah I main Revenant. but I'll main Phantom over anyone
how would superglides work?
@@tacozzz593 n wall jump
@@HeavenlyTheo That sounds interesting. Would there be a spare jump after the wall bounce?
Ooh that ultimate is pretty interesting
Your internet
It reminded me that the wraith we have is from another reality and she swapped with the voidwalker wraith from the apex verse that was most likely a pilot, so potentially if we ever get a Titanfall 3, it could be set in the other verse that voidwalker was left in, to avoid any plot holes with the apex games
Void Granade: If u cant see other players, on the enemy to reposition without them knowing or if u can see other players, on ur team to get out of sticky situation.
or to break enemies momentum on you, if everyone is invisible, noone gets to fight lol
I'm Japanese and use Google Translate.
How to use Ultimate Abilities
I've thought about some, so I'll introduce them.
① Use in the same way as Wraith
・ Move safely
・ Escape from the enemy
② Use instead of portal
・ The ring is shrinking
・ Go to a place with a shield
③ Protect allies
・ When the physical strength of allies is low
・ Allies are being fired
④ Restrict the actions of the enemy
While in the void
・ Opening and closing doors ・ Use of abilities
-Gun shooting-Use of ally abilities
... and other actions are restricted, so if you use it ...
・ Since the enemy cannot get on the jump pad,
There is no follow-up
・ If you close the door, you will not be able to open the opponent in the void.
There is no follow-up
I think it will be possible to use it tactically.
私は日本人で、グーグル翻訳を使っています。
アルティメットアビリティの使い方を
いくつか考えたので紹介します。
①レイスと同じように使う
・安全に移動をする
・敵から逃げる
②ポータル代わりに使う
・リングが縮小している
・遮蔽物がある場所へ行く
③味方を守る
・味方の体力が少ない時
・味方が集中砲火されている
④敵の行動を制限
虚空に入っている間は
・ドアの開閉 ・アビリティの使用
・銃の射撃 ・味方のアビリティの使用
...等の行動が制限されるので、それを利用すれば...
・敵はジャンプパッドに乗れなくなるので、
追ってこれない
・ドアを閉めれば虚空状態の相手は開けず、
追ってこれない
という風に、戦術的な使用が可能になると私は考えます。
I really hope Phantom comes to the game, I would main them
I'd say the double jump should have limited uses before having to recharge similar to valkyrie's fuel otherwise infinite double jumps will be too op
Maybe you can't double jump again unless you hit the ground
@@simplysage3562 it’s a “double” jump. Of course you can’t jump again until you hit the ground. He means add a limit to the double jumps so people don’t move around so crazy.
@@nubmyr exactly
I feel like if the double jump was a little hop, and not a full jump it would be alright
It's not like you could follow up the double jump with a wallrun
I don’t think double jump is going to be OP
I love how they're willing to add another complex movement legend (even tho I was kinda hoping for a wallrunning to be in the game).
As for the ultimate, it would be very interesting but imo pretty weak if it's not on a very short timer...
Think it should be an instant explosion but quite small range.
If it has a timer, it can be easily dodged, unless the range is very large, and if the range is large it kinda defeats the point of choosing to use it to either a team mate or an enemy, but instead just hitting all.
@@tuomassaarinen147 I meant a timer on the ult recharge, because it's such a tricky ultimate to use it shouldn't be too punishing to miss it (I'm guessing a cooldown closer to Octane's jumpad or Loba's market than Bangalore's missiles
As for the actual explosion, I think it's fine as it is in the leak : a bit shorter startup than Wraith's Q, so that you can easily react if you use it defensively but the enemies can't react if they are unaware when used offensively...
@@johanngalland6188 Okay gotcha. I am interested to see how it pans out, but it doesn't seem to be too powerful.
Anyways, this legend has such an interesting tool set, and the double jump passive might even end up being problematically OP when in hands of a top level player.
Idk , I would prefer infinit double jump more😋
@@tuomassaarinen147 I agree, imagine the insane constant tap strafes lmao
I would use the void grenade inside rooms with the only exit having doors so the enemy won’t be able to escape if the doors are shut.
The void grenade sounds really good, either defense wise and attack. Good for late game rotations and to isolate 1 enemy players while attacking the rest. Hope he comes out soon
Like valkyrie says :they all look around, but they never look up. This will be a good legend
I've always felt that Rev should have wall cling along with his passive. It kinda just makes sense
@Jam imagine seeing that, creepy af
@@RiddelJr yeah as a rev main that'd be fun
Well you're in luck because this is all going to be the rework for Revenant Reborn
Phantom sounds like a really good poke legend.
If you've gotta get out of a 3v1 against another team, you can use your double jump to juke them out around a corner, throw your void grenade into the air so it lands on the team chasing you, and then use your tactical to reposition up high or behind them and give them the slip
This legend has such an awesome kit. The void nade can be used in so many ways. I wonder if you can heal and res teammates while in it, since you just exist there and not get teleported like in the other void ults. That would maybe be a bit op, but a great way to counter third parties.
The res would take too long unless being in that void speeds up the time of healing or reviving
just hit 2 members of the enemy team and jump the third. then before they come out, just track them and kill them since you can't start shooting right after the time out
I'am curious about his passive would It make phantom get 3 jumps if he uses octane's jump pad?
Nah
No the jump pad would just overwrite it
@@bobz it would be fun though
I think they should do that but to balance it make it so you can ya store the second double jump and make it weaker than the first jump Edit: I hate my phones auto correct
*their
“Phantom is supposedly an agile assassin”
Revenant: “Am I a joke to you?”
Revenant is a joke by now, give my edgy robot boy some buffs and love
When was rev agile
@@ゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝ his passive allows him to move quickly and quietly when crouch walking and wall climbin
@@TheSafeSword still not “agile” he’s literally a ruthless killer
@@ゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝゝ the very definition of agile is to move ur body quickly and and easily.
Gameplay wise he is indeed fast with his stalker passive. Lore wise he is able to climb buildings swiftly to hunt down his bounty. His body is meant to break the limitations of the human body. Indeed he is a ruthless killer but he is indeed agile. Hes able to take down an army of security because of his agility, after all he isnt indestructible
this character is def my favorite
The void grenade sounds like it is useful for isolating enemy team. Like a temporary kidnap.
Would allow you to potentiall 3v2/1 before the other guy gets back
The void grenade was used for fade and exclusive legend for mobile
Personally, this is the legend I'm most excited for I just love their kit. I'd probably use the void grenade either on the enemy team so we can leave fights or if I'm in ring 3-4 I'll use it on my team to get us in ring then maybe in late game rings I would use it to give us better cover or rotate to a better position
Imagine that phantom is another project (test lab subject) like wraith before (hope), and she escape from the lab like wraith (as the storyline video) but they never met until phantom comes to apex games.
Or it's Wraith but from another time and space, another dimension, another parallel universe.
If Phantom is actually going to be put in the game then they would be my main because I play Titanfall and I love the fast moving pace to that game and it seems like this character would be fun to move around with.
The void grenade is actually the new mobile apex legends exclusive legends ult, Fade
Finally some good movement for ps4
Void Grenade is basically a wraith Q for your whole team and i absolutely love it! Imagine the combos, Phantom, Revenant, Ashe/Octane
Since they’re masked, and have access to phase tech. In a broad scenario there’s a possibility of “Phantom” being the Wraith from our version of the games. Would be wild lore lol
no I don't want two wraiths plus why would phantom not have all of wraiths abilities then
Phantom is just Fade from Mobile but instead of movement speed Boost after slide he gets double jump
typo: Doble to DOUBLE
i can see some uses for the void grenade, you can use it to confuse the enemy team and reposition around them, or throw it on your own team and escape, slow the enemy to reload both guns / heal and reposition, it would be really useful in my opinion if it slowed down the enemy, since they can use the void advantage to escape you
also i can already see the clips where people will just grapple into someone from the back and punch them without them realising what even is going on
I've been a Wraith Main since literally Day 1 of Apex Legends, though I sometimes switch over to Octane for a bit but from what I've seen here I'll absolutely become a Phantom Main once he launches! His Kit sounds amazing, especially his Passive and Tactical will be a lot of fun for Titanfall 2 Players like me :D Void Grenade also sounds extremely useful offensively as well as defensively (if used right of course).
Great Content, keep it up man :)
i really want this character lol when i first saw this character i got excited
I think it would be really cool if phantom could have a phase tactical where they could phase through a wall or just phase through bullets for half a second
I really want a legend that can wall run still.
They might be saving that for Blisk who they have been working on since day one, but scrapping him.
My theory as to why they haven't put someone like Blisk or Cooper in the game is because they can't think of a way to make them strong enough that it will fit the lore without making them op.
Ash is the strongest legend by lore, but only mid tier in game and we don't want something like that again.
@@jpronan8757 I don't like that reasoning : respawn should make fun a priority for a legend, not lore accuracy or balance
@@johanngalland6188 I agree fun should be prioritised, but when Pilots are introduced into the game they need to introduce a new formula.
@@jpronan8757 yeah I kinda see what you mean
@@johanngalland6188 I just have a feeling if they do add Blisk or Cooper into the game they will most likely be the season finale legend.
So bobz, I’m excited for a trailer for phantom. It’d be so cool, and remember how respawn make banger trailers. Yes this will be lit!
The next sweaty legend
They put the grenade into mobile on the character Fade. It’s much more useful when using it to push enemies because they don’t expect it, and being voided isn’t great for your team because enemies can follow the trail, like a wraith tactical, and shoot you during the buffer before you pull out your gun.
I'm pretty sure this became fade
2:03 basically fades fade chamber (apex mobile)
I would love to see this
I dreamed up a character called phantom a while ago. Surprisingly similar. Class: assault
Description: ghostly operator.
Passive: detection interference
Completely undetectable by passive recon abilities (bloodhound tracking, seer heartbeat sensor.) All active scans last 1/2 as long (eotaf, foa, pathfinder ring scan) Crypto drone and valk flyover must be 2x as close to scan him. Aoe scan abilities have a 3sec delay before they can reveal him (seer ult). Is highlighted by motherlode, marked for death, and newt. Is not highlighted by threat detector. very quiet but not silent.
Tac: shadow dash
Quickly dash in the direction you are looking. Leaves faint trail that disappears ~ 3 sec later. Dash in a straight line up to 15m. Can dash shorter distances by looking at the ground where you want to stop. Can dash over open air. Can use to jump to ledges/into the air. Dashing to a ledge will mount it (small indicator for mountable ledges when tac is readied.) It isn’t teleportation so you still hit things in your path fence/gas/silence/well timed bullets/etc. you can also maintain some momentum when you “land” so Dashing while crouching will leave you sliding. quicker animations and ready time than Loba teleport. 30 sec cooldown. 2 charges. Can be used in rapid succession without having to exit the animation.
Ult: isolation
“welcome to my world”
Create a large sphere (1/2 size of seer ult) that obscures and mutes everything inside. Has a similar appearance to rift on Olympus. The wall is nearly entirely opaque from the inside and out. Lasts ~ 15 sec. highlights enemies that enter through the walls briefly. Enemies inside cannot send pings to their teamates outside. Bullets and abilities can pass through, however no sound can escape the sphere.
Was exceptional militia pilot. Very friendly and happy go lucky but a complete battle junkie. Got fatally wounded. Asked to be turned into a sim so he could keep fighting. Had a buddy who was working in the sim project. Asked buddy to remove the programming that prevents sims from recognizing themselves as sims. Due to his overwhelming borderline narcissistic sense of “self” he managed to completely maintain his ego and sanity (he thinks being an immortal murder bot is cool.) After the war he became a mercenary trying to rekindle the thrill of combat. But after years of “boring work” he hears about the apex games. After sneaking into them and causing his fair share of chaos in active games he is officially recruited so he would stop ruining games in progress. (Teaser is that isolation bubble will randomly appear on maps and when they disappear there are three death boxes inside.) He isn’t looking for fame or glory. He doesn’t need money. He has no blood feuds. He’s just here to have fun in the best way he knows how.
I even came up with some quips!
“Hey buddy, you’re buggin out. something wrong? Oh that’s right, the bullets.”
“Come on man, my cat would’ve survived longer than you”
“It takes a genius to kill as well as I do”
“I hate to do this to you but I need you to shut up”
“Does anyone smell burning toast? I can’t smell so I was just wondering”
“Sure, simulacrum don’t feel physical pain, but words still hurt”
“This isn’t anything like the battlefield… it’s so much more fun!”
“Tell all the other losers I said hi”
“Y’know I canceled my plans for this. Such a good decision”
“Don’t worry guys, I’m not like those crazy murder bots that you know, I’m the fun kind!”
“It takes a special kinda person to kill me for good, too bad I haven’t met them yet”
“And here I am tryna have fun. Didn’t realize you were gonna be so boring”
“If you were better you wouldn’t be dead. Yet.”
“I sure do miss chocolate milkshakes, but basically being immortal has its perks too”
“Ha hahaha hahahahahahah HAHAHAHAHAHA!”
“I came here for entertainment, so entertain me.”
“Have you considered not dying?”
“Hmph, not bad”
“You’re kill leader? But I wanted to be kill leader!”
“That was disappointing. Aren’t you supposed to be a legend?”
😨😨😨😨😨😨😨
Double Jump!!???
Grappling !!!!!??
Void Grenade!!!?
If this leak is true then My theory is that phantom is the perfected version of the voidwalker experiments. Wraith was just the Guinea pig and throughout the testing phantom was just an empty shell that was eventually trained to be the perfect wraith
Use the void grenade when the enemy is reloading, it'll reset their reload and allow you to do a little more dps
Depending on the time in the void (if the final product differs from what's shown here) you can pull a lifeline Rez on a teammate and ensure they're not damaged. You can separate enemies from their teammates for easy picks, or use it on a downed enemy or their lifeline/ teammate to deny a Rez. It also depends on if you can use equipment in the void such as a shield cell/ bat. Or if it lasts long enough for a phoenix. Lots of conditions not yet known but the potential is definitely there for skilled players to have a lot of options on how to use it.
In mobile, Fade’s ultimate is just like Wraith’s tactical in that you go to the void, but it’s in the form of a grenade. Only it lasts like 3 seconds and has a detrimental affect on enemies. It marks and slow enemies.
basically Genji from overwatch mixed with Skye from paladin than can be invisible due to her smoke grenade and the grapple hook is from Widowmake from overwatch XD
They will definitely be my main when they're introduced.
This didn't age well
Im not entirely sure but the void grenade could probably give your enemies a advantage (which would be stupid but this is just a thought) and the reason why is because they can probably see you and move to a different spot to catch you off guard
Just check out the effect Fade’s ultimate has on enemies in mobile.
Funny thing about that jump kit, somebody just found audio files from viper ( Valkyries dad in titanfall 2) in apex linked to a legend named Phantom so it kinda makes sense to have a jump kit since he is from titanfall
woudl you be able to sort of tap straife the second jump? Could be awsome to see some clips of people shattering ankles.
I really like this legend Phantom
Hey fade looking GOOOFY
What if phantoms lore is that it’s actually wraith but an assassin in that universe. We just never see it’s face and it’s heavily implied
Honestly seems pretty balanced, that passive is neat for mobility, same with the tactical, very similar to horizon, wraith, and Bangalore in the sense of mobility. As for the ultimate, that definitely seems like an ultimate style ability, the hardest part about balancing that though would be for setting times of cooldown and effect.
we need more Legends like Mirage. He’s so fun to play
Fade in apex mobile have a ult which is exactly llike a void grenade
I think void grenade Is better used for teammates for any situation since you will have the element of surprise and invulnerablity on your side. Using it on the enemies will likely to be result in ambush or enemy position themselves in more favorable positions to wipe out your squad more efficiently.
Unless it has a detrimental effect on them like Fade’s ultimate in mobile. It’s marks and slows enemies.
If this really appears as a legend and has lore linking to Wraith I got a good idea for a finisher. It'd be phantom walking over and stabbing an enemy like normal but instead it's Wraith's knife so alt universe Wraith comes out of nowhere and snatches it from them through a portal and they're just left with their gun.
I feel like the void grenade could be use to take space. For example say your in a bubble fight so you throw you grenade in the bubble forcing the enemy team out and if they don't leave you can take space without any repreconsions. The other way I would use it is to take out one or two enemy so you could focus fire on other targets relieving pressure. I can see this character being very good in ranked
I can already see the amazing skins for him
Based on the story from the outlands I believe this may be an assassin sent to kill wraith
the void grenade concept is already in the mobile version as fade's ult and its called void or phase chamber and it does the same thing except that it doesn't apply on you and your teammates
Double jump for a passive? Definitely overpowered.
I think for a better balance. Their passive should be silent footsteps and a slightly higher climb.
Tactical should be double jump (so that it'll be on a timer, maybe like 45 seconds)
Void grenade seems fine if it does no damage and if the other plays can heal
The Double Jump passive may be a little stronger than we think.
The reason being that if we assume tap-strafing (which is currently maxed out to 90 degree turns) is tied to 1 jump action, then you can probably do a second tap strafe on the second jump (potentially allowing you to do 180 degree turns).
Imagine the insane potential of juking people again and the insane potential of parkour to scale buildings and cliffs quickly.
Imagine Wall Jump + Double Jump + Tap strafe + Wall Slide + Tap Strafe + Hook
A really overlooked fact about the passive is that he can basically negate the fall stun - if he double jumps before hitting the ground he can just keep running basically making it horizons passive but way way better
i'd use the void grenade as a sort of escape from gas for my team, or escape from things like gibby ults to get out . thermites and other throwables
you could use it to set up traps like throwing that then your team either getting closer
throwing grenades to where they run to
even showing positions as they might usually try run an leave a trail if it's like wraith voids.
So when phantom jumps off an octane pad does that give them triple jump🤔
you could also use it to make 1-2 enemy players useless in a team fight and get an easier fight - 2v3 or 1v3
It's probably useful for stealth or just playing as doomguy. Either way when phantom gets released I'm gonna be excited
If you are playing solo and you want to isolate a player to reduce the preasure the grenade will be usefull. helps you get the knock on that one player as the rest are in the void
. in the end ring it can help you last abit longer with your team mates
I'm titan fall 2 there was a passive where you had a hook, it held you on the wall just like that, but you had to already be on the wall, the grappling hook was the one pathfinder has. That hook type is new but the grapple hook hold onto wall thing already exists.
The void nade can be used to create a 1v1, which would be good for an assassin
void grenade could be great to reposition from a gibby / bang ult; or if you're squeezed between a few teams you can just dip to cover and leave.
This could be the other scientist that was working with wraith, he work a Hammond and got promoted and was given a titan and pilot jump kit he then found a way to contain the wraith ability, hence the void grenade, it would be cool if his tactical is a cloak and that his passive can wallrun.
Using the tactical to stick to the ceiling or a wall behind an enemy pushing you would lead to some hilarious gameplay
Phantom actually seems better the the Mobile’s Fade
I like how he’s double jumping and talking about the how op the “new” hero will be all while playing Wraith.
Phantom was a scientist who studied wraiths phase project and went through the void to track her down bcuz one of her other dimension wraiths destroyed a bunch of stuff in a different dimension. So he’s hunting down wraiths
Void grenade is like fades ult
This Legend seems very powerful but balanced at the same time. It's likely that he's going to be different when he actually gets released just like most other unreleased Legends. I just hope his passive stays the same or is stronger or goes to dif legend
The Phantom looks Awesome I can't wait to see him in his backstory and what date well he well be in Apex legends season 13
Sounds like a mix between a destiny 2 hunter with the void subclass and a mini pathfinder. Interesting take, and I would add that if the void grenade was the equivalent to the warlock nova bomb in D2, that should be an incredible ult for this legend
That would be really good for movement
for sure use it for team to reposition on lets say a gibby ult or third party rush that ult could open your roster to different characters because now everyone has wraith q so you could use more for a push build and have the nade ready and even gibby will have that oh crap button if everyone plays together correctly
U can use the void to escape anything horizon ult caustic ult u can use it to push newcastle u can use it to rotate against mirage or u can use it on mirage to find him since it is an area splash etc
plenty of sick plays i had playing titanfall with the wall hook, just chilling in the corner of a room.
The tap strafe possibilities with the double jump especially off of an octane jump pad
I want this legend Phantom to come in Apex legends season 13
I love this legend I really want Phantom to be the next legend in Apex legends season 13
double jump + tap strafe is gonna be insane. Especially if people figure out how to cancel the grapple ability and keep the speed and combine a double jump + tap strafe. instant insane momentum.
Is there actually a reason the description and all says its unable to connect but the ad runs at 4k...
of all the leaked characters that's the one that caught my attention the most
This guy's passive is SO overpowered. It should have a slow down effect like octanes jump pad, and a sound effect like horizon when she lands from a height.
That double jump is making my pilot instincts reawaken
imagine chasing a phantom through a door out of a building then as you walk out you see them disapear out of thin air
The explosion animation for the void grenade is used from the gravity star grenade from Titanfall. It does look cool though
I wonder how would the jumps work if he uses octane's jump pad? Would it be a triple jump then?
Apparently from other people, they say that the void grenade sends you into the void like wraiths tactical and ultimate but people can shoot you but you can’t shoot them, of course this would be for a very short time because otherwise it would be extremely broken especially if you had a high power/fire rate gun.
So what you can be shot that pretty bad if u can be attacked