HOW MUCH DAMAGE!? Zenless Zone Zero Disorder Guide

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  • @mriceband9212
    @mriceband9212 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Just to mention, with Nicole you can get more anomaly build-up and damage from stalling out the EX special; if you input a spin while charging with Nicole she does a little spin and it stalls out the charge for much longer which does more damage and anomaly build-up on the enemy and still preserves the invulnerability.

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That's actually sick! Thank you!

  • @samsan4644
    @samsan4644 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    dude you deserve much more subs than this. Your explanation is informative and so easy to understand, with actual game play footage. hope your channel can scale up for the quality content you produce. Pls turn up your mic a tiny bit would be perfect.

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks so much for the feedback, really appreciated. I'll get the audio right next vid!

  • @cockroach5078
    @cockroach5078 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I didn't even know this mechanic existed, I did get it once and was wondering what it was, thanks and good guide

  • @happyxerox
    @happyxerox 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    As mentioned in the video, to maximize Disorder damage you want your two anomalies to finish building as closely together as possible. There are a couple niche mechanics you can use to ensure this, the most useful being "only onfield characters can trigger anomaly".
    The practical example is Piper: while spinning with her ex special she rapidly builds physical anomaly, and applies a big chunk on the final slam attack. If you swap character before Piper does the slam attack she will finish the animation and apply the same amount of physical anomaly but since she's not "the onfield character" assault won't trigger and the enemy will be left sitting there with a 100% full physical gauge.
    Typically you would then build up and trigger your second element's anomaly (usually by onfielding someone like Grace). Immediately switch back to Piper and trigger Assault and disorder- since the the Assault is coming so close after the first anomaly, the Disorder will be bigger.
    tl;dr swap mid animation to avoid triggering anomaly early, keep anomaly triggers lined up to maximize disorders.

  • @balakaye
    @balakaye หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    From what I can tell, there’s currently two styles of team comp developing. First is the standard dps, stun, support that seems relatively obvious. The second is based around anomaly and disorder. Disorder turns dot into instant damage, so we’re yet to see just how valuable that may be and finding creative ways to trigger it while the enemy is stunned or debuffed could be really interesting!

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So true, I can''t wait to see how the meta develops.

    • @chillax319
      @chillax319 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is a third one: Throw things randomly and hope for the best.
      This way I discovered that Piper works quite well as a stun character triggering chain attacks like crazy with Anton being a close second non-stun character that doubles as a stun character. Though he is far more effective towards enemies that are weak to elecricity.

    • @balakaye
      @balakaye หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chillax319 it’s actually for that reason that I might consider going for Jane Doe over Qingyi! Physical anomaly is actually really good for daze so I’d be interested to see the comparison in how quickly you can build the meter

  • @kingabe221
    @kingabe221 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    your channel is amazing bro ty for all the informative/ no bs content

  • @nonononothere
    @nonononothere หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great guiddle, thank you!!

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're welcome! Thank you for your time!

  • @WZJohan
    @WZJohan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My biggest mistake in ZZZ: getting Ellen joe

  • @nggames9201
    @nggames9201 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm still kind of confused on the types of disorders, I haven't seen anyone talking about them

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you'll see more soon, other content creators seem to be picking up on it. I'm thinking about doing a full element guide that goes more in depth so subscribe for that in the future!
      To recap though: Disorder is what happens when you mix any two anomalies (which are the elemental reactions). It deals a singular chunk of damage once the second anomaly has been triggered on the same enemy.

    • @noxgamez2503
      @noxgamez2503 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      its basically like genshins reactions only that instead of the 2nd character who does the reaction the 1st characters stats matter. anomaly mastery is like genshins elemental mastery. also unlike genshin where application of element is instant u need to fill a gauge in zzz. and u can throw all of this out if u havent played genshin XP

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly. I also play Genshin... For my sins.

  • @Lightmagician60
    @Lightmagician60 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i have a few questions about Anomalies
    1: Does Attack and/or Crit effect the Anomaly damage?
    2: does Break effect the Anomaly damage?
    3: can you apply the Same Element twice or does it have to be different?
    4: can you chain 2~3 elements in a loop. so that every Anomaly after the 1st is a Disorder?
    5: do Bangboos measure up to Agents in anyway?

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This was designed to be a quick guide on how to do it so I don’t have all the answers but I’ll tell you what I do know below.
      1. Would need to test it.
      2. Again would need testing
      3. It does have to be two different elements, if you apply shock again, then you just trigger shock.
      4. Disorder clears the elements applied when it triggers, so yes you can chain it but after the disorder triggers you’re starting fresh.
      5. My thoughts are nah, not right now

    • @Lightmagician60
      @Lightmagician60 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AverageLuckGamer 4: so it would be always every 2nd anomaly.

    • @PatchDaBlunt
      @PatchDaBlunt หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lightmagician60yes I believe it scales off of the ATK stat so you would want on slots 4/5/6 anomaly proficiency/ATK%/anomaly mastery for any anomaly character

    • @Lightmagician60
      @Lightmagician60 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PatchDaBlunt i recently found out how awful the disc pool is. It's so diluted. 2*6 is so many, the odds of you getting the Disc 5 you want is 2*6*9 (1/108) which worse then HSR body and orb together.
      Also just disappointed that they even did the 1~6, it looks so stupid, they are discs, what CD drive has 6 different formated trays? make them interchangeable. I'd rather have a 2*15 then a 2*6*7 and 2*6*9
      There was no mechanical or lore reason we needed this drop table. This should have been the perfect excuse to change it

    • @PatchDaBlunt
      @PatchDaBlunt หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lightmagician60 no yeah I noticed that too I’ve been grinding discs for about a week and the only way I am about to get a 4/5/6 slot with the main stat I want is to go to the bardic needle and recycle so that I can roll for those specific slots smh

  • @memetic_hazard
    @memetic_hazard หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm surprised at how much anomaly damage your grace is doing. Mine is only at around 40k, but then again I haven't leveled up my equipment that much so I might still be low on the anomaly and attack stats.
    Guoba did make a video on the topic and apparently anomaly damage scales with your attack stat, but not at all with any skill modifiers so you don't need any real investment in skill levels.
    I have a Grace and Piper team that I'm still trying to figure out the third unit for (Lucy would probably be ideal but I don't have her) and right now it's a toss up between picking Anton for Grace synergy and potentially an additional damage source once assault breaks the enemy, and Nicole as a support and gatherer.

  • @yys6102
    @yys6102 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the reason why you are dealing so much disorder damage is due to the W-engine "Weeping Gemini". Because I have similar stats as you excluding the W-engine and my disorder does not exceed 40k

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah potentially. I did point my gear out in the video, as I thought I may had just gotten kinda lucky with the combo somehow.

    • @thebumsterman
      @thebumsterman 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea it’s was the W-engine Weeping Gemin, base Weeping Gemini increases Anomaly proficiency by 120 if maxed stack

  • @theversatilegenius91
    @theversatilegenius91 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thumbnail ❤

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah that Grace image is fire, when I saw it in game I had to snip it.

  • @lemonnn2157
    @lemonnn2157 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got 1.86 million disorder on Inferno Reap lol

  • @the7thsouls
    @the7thsouls หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your account DOES NOT suck

  • @nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo2795
    @nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo2795 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    for the algorithm

  • @chaos5467
    @chaos5467 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Video is great, thanks for explaining. I'm not sure I understand tho. I have Grace with 270AP, and testing myself I only get Disorder of 30k. You don't seem to have such higher numbers but your disorder gets to 80k and 100k. :S What am I missing?
    Then Piper with 154AP does a Disorder of 8k. I don't get the correlation.

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it's because I'm using the weeping gemini wengine which gives a pretty sizable buff to your AP so long as you have triggered prior reactions up to 4 stacks, it scales based on it's level and I actually didn't fully realise how big the buff was.

  • @gemgem-hl7ii
    @gemgem-hl7ii หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's so hard to see whether the circle is filled once the enemies are moving, especially when you're playing on mobile. (How did hoyo think it's a good idea?? Lol) Is there a better way to know?

    • @AverageLuckGamer
      @AverageLuckGamer  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It does also trigger an effect when filled (e.g. SHOCK) and that appears as well but sometimes it gets lost in a sea of number lol. Maybe Hoyo will make it clearer with UI updates in the future.

  • @zusako
    @zusako หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want grace so bad..

  • @raihanbintang5928
    @raihanbintang5928 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So to increase anomaly disorder dmg is increase the atk of 1st appliee right?