40.000KM SERVICE - SYM SYMPHONY ST 200
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2023
- Donnie my SYM Symphony ST200 has crossed the 40.000 km mark and it's time to get him on the lift for some well deserved maintenance
- Engine oil chance
- Transmission oil change
- Air filter change
- Belt and rollers change
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Really nice. I own a Lance Cali Classic 200i 2024 model and it's basically all the same on my scooter. Thanks for the video as I plan on doing all my own maintenance
Hello Alex! Really appreciate the extensive video on your scooter service. I don't have a scooter myself, but it's great to learn something from you and get a basic understanding of servicing a CVT powered 2wheeler :D cheers from Denmark!
My pleasure 😁
Thanks a lot for that Alex, really needed it.! Huge thumbs up sir.!! 👍👍👍
My pleasure!
Since your epic journey to Anatolia, I was wondering about a maintenance video of Donnie! You seemed so confident about the engine oil change or even a spare belt, if I am not mistaken... Glad you spent time and effort to teach us!!
On my trip last year yes a I did have a spare belt with me just in case but there was no need for it :).
Thank you so much for this. #futuregoals My bike is still in warranty but I plan to eventually do as much as I can.
Loved to see the Revo50 and all the 50cc outside the showroom 🎉
Just what I wanted to see! Amazing video bud:)
Thanks!
You’re organized and good @ mechanical things Alex. Your video will no doubt help some DYI scooter mechanics, (even I think I could give it a go as long as I had your video to help me make sure I hadn’t forgotten anything)? Thumbs up! Best, Rola (Oregon / USA)
Thanks! 👍
Very thank for this video 💯
My pleasure. 😁
Thanks! I wanted to know how a scooter variator worked. I have a 1971 DAF33 with a very similar transmission arrangement. 👍
My pleasure.
Hey Alex, I don't think you need to grease the Rollers. Not sure if it will mess the whole thing up und gets sticky by time. ... But thanks for showing Big Inspektion! Very Detailed! :-) Is very helpful for everyone that wants to do their own Inspektion! Great Job!
We always grease the rollers, it helps with the wear over time.
Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure!
Hello from Bulgaria! I just enjoyed watching trip to Asia and all other trips with Danny. Do you plan to do more bonkers trips with him?
Currently no plans but who knows what the future holds
Alex, are you able to do a valve adjustment video please - cover off things like intervals, spacing, tools required. Thanks in advance !
I let the valve adjustment to the professionals.
LOL....Understood - Any chance to video them doing it ??@@RideWithAlex
@@e2e4au maybe next time I have to do it.
Did you check the valves clearances on the Zontes? Sometimes they can be off from the factory and if the cold starts are not ok, they can be too tight.
I have a lot to ride.. My Symphony is on 4000 at the moment.
That zontes was taken apart many times to try to figure it out and no luck, it's just as is and it's our sacrificial bike now because we can't sell it like this.
@@RideWithAlex Sorry, Alex. I am just professionally distorted, because I am fixing industrial machines all day long, all my life. And just tickles when someone have gremlins problems like the Zontes.
Very nice video mate, very helpfull. One question. Would it be smart to insert a fuel filter into a sym 125 st? Im talking of those universal ones. thank you
No, you will mess the fuel pressure to the injector and the scooter will run lean. It has a big fuel filter in the mouth of the fuel pump in the tank it's all it needs.
@@RideWithAlex Thank you.
I pull the cluch pulley a little bit and the I put the belt a bit inside, so I don't strugle at the front!
Good hint 😁
I hope one day symphony will be sold in VietNam
Hello Alex. it doesnt really have something to do with the video, but I wanna buy new tyres on my sym jet 14 and i cannot find michelin city grip 2 for 100/90/14 measures for the front tyre. These are the measures written in the scooter book. Should i give up on michelin city grip 2 and buy another tyre or just buy this one but another measure? For example the back tyre has 110//80/14 and I found for bot rear and front. Would it be a good idea to buy 2 tyres like this for both rear and front ? I heard they are kinda the best on the market so that s why i am insisting on them.
You can buy a 100/90/14 that's "made for the rear" and just mount it backwards on the front. When a tyre says it's made for the rear it just means they only give you rotation direction for the rear. If you put it on the front you just have to mount it the opposite rotation direction from the rear.
Hi alex i have a sym symphony st 125i should the valves be adjusted any time soon or no, my sym has 15k km
The valves have to be checked every 10.000km and adjusted if necessary.
When we should change the transmission oil, i have a scooter 11000 km i never change it
I change it once every 5000km
Name of huil bro i ve too st200cc im from morrocco
How is it in the summer being air cooled ? any problems so far?
No problems, the cooling is more the adequate even on 40 degrees outside temperature.
Is there any video where you calibrate the valves?
No, I have never done it by myself, I let a professional do that.
Heloo,
what are the dimensions of the belt, and what is the weight of the roller?
I use OEM parts they have part codes not dimensions. Belt is 1B01XMA02. Rollers should be about 14gr each.
sal. daca nu avem pistol de impact, dar avem dinamometrica, la cati nm se strang acele 2 piulite de la curea ?
Sincer nu cunosc specificatia dar exista manuale de service pe net.
55 nm
@@homurbey 👌
I’d avoid greasing the rollers as the grease will be flung out potentially contaminating the belt.
But, your scooter has made it to 40k so I must be wrong 😂👍
Always greased my rollers, and will continue to do so. Never had issues with contamination
لقد شاهدت الفيديو من الجزائر و اعجبت جدا بطريقة توضيحك السهل
اتمنى ان تقول لنا ماهي جميع القطع التي استبدلتها من 0 كلم حتى 40 الف كلم
فيديوهاتك رائعة اتمنى أن تستمر في نشرها
Thank you :)
Interesting 😊
Was this first major srvice? I have sym symphony st200, bought it with 11k kilometers now it has 19k,never changed anything on it except engine oil every 1000km, the scooter runs perfect. Also my friend offer me brand new ferodo clutch for this scooter, will it increase the performance of the scooter?
I don't know about the clutch, but at least the transmission belt and rollers have to be changed every 12.500km
Alex i saw you used 10w40 oil for your engine but Sym here in Greece says we should use 15w50 or 20w50 oil for Symphony ST200 Euro5. Last week I got mine to the Sym dealer for the first 1000km service and they put inside my engine Sym 20w50 oil.. i think it's too thick and my motor is struggling to accelerate after that.!
Already replaced it after 50km with a new 15w50 oil. If course it feels better but not as it's first 1000kms..
Should i check for a new 10w40 oil this time you think?
Friends are using 10w40 in the same engine and suggests me to go for it. But Sym Greece doesn't agree with that and i could have warranty issues (2 years in Greece) if i use thinner than 15w50 oil.. OK I'll do it by myself and no-one of them will ever know.
You know what Romanian manual suggests for your scooter oil?
I've used only 10w40 in it and it runs perfectly, try 10w40.
@@RideWithAlex thanks a lot sir.!
Have you ever replaced the centrifuge jaws ??
No, not yet. No need to replace them curently.
@@RideWithAlex How often you think its needed to replace them in real life use ?
@@user-nk5gw6db7j I don't know, as with any clutch depends on how you use it. Clutches don't have a km life time they have a number of starts from 0 lifetime.
@@RideWithAlex I see . okay thanks . cause i changed mine in 20.000 km .. it really needed change and i thought it was crazy ..
Sunt interesat de posibilitatea creșterii vitezei maxime. ( Standard se plafoaneaza in jurul vitezei de 102 km/h, care în realitate e aprox 90-92 km/h.
E exact viteza la care te lupți cu tirurile.
Ideal ar fi să adaug vreo 10 km in plus, nu e important reprizele sau accelerația.
Ce poți recomanda? Role, curea, ambreiaj de alte dimensiuni? Bineînțeles, păstrarea garanției și fiabilității,.
Orice modificare duce la pierderea garanției. În materie de role am încercat role de 18grame și la viteza maxima nu au făcut nici o diferență. Nu știu nici eu exact ce sa încerc ca nu găsesc piese modificate, mai studiez problema.
I think you should change gear teeth ratios.I think even scooter has then.Go check SYM ADX 125 what kind of gear ratio it has? And try putting in ST200? Probably that helps?
There is a bearing in the clutch puley, you should have greased it :)
It was pretty greasy, never did do anything with it but probably next belt service at 55.000 km I'll go through all the bearings in the transmission.
Is this SYM Ultra oil full or semi-synthetic?
It's semi, 70-30 split
thanks, so 30% synthetic or 70% synthetic? is it generally better (or safe) to use 100% synthetic with these Symphonys?
@@gilwe 70% synthetic, 100% synthetic is ok for SYM's
Thanks. I just bought my 3rd Symphony (love those 16" wheels), and checked with the local dealer for the ideal oil for it, they insist I should only use semi-synthetic in those but I'm not sure why. They use (and recommend) Motul 5000 10W40 specifically. I've used fully synthetic Castrol Power Racing 10W40 in my older one and at some point it started leaking, so I'm not sure. As a semi-synthetic I've heard the Castrol Power 1 is a better option, but not sure.
@@gilwe I've seen some owners running full synthetic in SYM's without issues so 🤷. I use the SYM semi-synthetic because I can get my hands on it easily and with curently 42000km on the clock I think it's doing a good job so no need to switch to something else.
By the way, whats up with the bmw?
Needs an oil change and I'm lazy =))))
Pe ce motocicleta mergi la inceput?
Am mers pe Symphony ST50 apoi dupa permis an luat acest ST200 si un Transalp din 91, transalpul nu mi-a placut si l-am inlocuit cu in BMW R1100GS din 96. Si tot cu ST-ul merg 90% din timp dar imi place si GS-ul
@@RideWithAlex ma refeream ca la inaceputul filmuletului mergi pe o motocileta
@@danidany8535 ah, Zontes G155
@@RideWithAlex Două întrebări rapide, și mulțumesc anticipat! 1. Ai simțit că rulai prea încet pe ST 50 la livrări, sau era acceptabil? 2. Un XPRO 50 nu era mai manevrabil printre mașini, având roți de 12' ? (Ghici de ce întreb... 😃🥰 )
@@lotusds e ok 50 pt livrări dar mult mai bun este 125-ul. Da x'pro e mai manevrabil dar eu prefer ciclistica rotilor mai mari.
01:17 - spark plug, buy DENSO equivalent :D you probably buy NGK Indonezia ...
24:09 PRO TIP: go and buy "Tech Pulley" rollers (no DR.Pulley) 20% lighter than original weight - you will get 20-35% bether perfomanse then Multivar or some other sport variomat and they will last 40.000-50.000 km with no problem and it will cost 50% less then same sport variomat :D
36:00 why arent you change or blow up the air filter? :O its very important thing to do ...
I did change the air filter with a new one, i change the air fiter everu 5000km
Bummer, I came to valve check.
Sunt fiabile motoarele de 125cc de la sym ? Câți km poate duce un 125cc de la sym ? Mulțumesc!
Salut, daca te uiti pe canal la short-uri o sa vezi un Jet14 de 125cc L/C cu peste 100.000km in bord, actualmente are 112.000km si in continuare este pe livrari. Toti km astia in doar 3 ani.
Write name of product u use
I use only OEM parts, you can get them from your local dealer.
With all respect you make a big mistake with the spanners : never but never try to tight or untight the hex nuts or bolts
with open side of spanner its easy to kill the head of the nut or bolt or even loose it and hurt your hands. Nice job btw.
grease the Rollers-BIC MISTAKE
Been doing it for years and they hold up much better then non greased.