Which is the BEST Performing LED Pod the Morimoto 4Banger or Diode Dynamics SS3?
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Which is the top-performing LED light pod, the Morimoto 4Banger or the Diode Dynamics SS3? In this video, we compare these two pods side by side and find out how they perform against each other. To get LED pods and other lighting equipment for your vehicle visit our web link above.
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💡Lux Numbers💡
🔦Morimoto 4Banger: 720 Max Lux (46% Brighter)
🔦Diode Dynamics SS3: 490 Max Lux
🔦Morimoto 4Banger: 400 Max Lux After 1HR
🔦Diode Dynamics SS3: 350 Max Lux After 1HR
00:00 - Intro
00:22 - White Wide
01:35 - Diode Dynamics SS3 Options
01:51 - Morimoto 4Banger Options
02:18 - Side By Side Specs
02:46 - Testing Conditions
03:38 - Morimoto 4Banger Light Output
04:18 - Diode Dynamics SS3 Light Output
05:32 - 10 Minute Temperature Test
06:10 - 1HR Light Output Test
06:22 - LED Pod Stack Test
07:21 - Lighting Tech
07:44 - Which One Is Best
08:45 - Outro
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I like this guy! Explains everything in great detail.
We like you too, Neil!
Both are great. Have the SS3, but would be happy with either.
Also love Baja designs
I'm a little impartial to the SS3, seeing as how I work there and have made several pods personally, the quality is there, the Performance is there, and they look very refined and uniform, compared to the 4 bangers very angular look, I will say I am impressed that they squeezed out the same performance out of 3 Osram diodes, makes me wonder how long those boards will last running hotter though
You assembled several pods personally? Neat!
Personally, the SS3 looks like every other pod light out there, I have to squint at any 4 LED pod to even know who made it. If you see a set of 4Bangers they're immediately recognizable.
The 4Bangers are being pushed harder but the passive cooling design is also much more efficient. The higher performance is also due to the optics, not just the diodes being pushed a bit more.
Not to mention that LIFETIME warranty!
@@HeadlightRevolution my only issue with the 4bangers is that they don’t have the swappable lens.. and they’re a bit cheaper
Edit: I was wrong, not sure why I was thinking the 4banger didn’t have swappable lens’s
@@JoeyLovesTrains I had to contact Morimoto Customer support just to make sure, but no. The 4Banger Lens are not swappable.
Unless it was a typo and you meant to write the SS3 instead of 4Banger.
@@WilliamSilvaOfficial at 2:19 it says interchangeable lenses
@@JoeyLovesTrains 4 Bangers are more expensive than the SS3's too
I like the Diode Dynamics. They stand behind their warranty. They have done a great job of serving me. Also, when you call them you get a person that actually knows their product. Morimoto might be a great product, but they hare going to have to work to move me from DD.
DD i think is a clear winner here, i like it how wider it is compare to the 4banger. Also DD have an option for an Amber backlight it is SAE compliant making it road legal which the HXB is missing.
Both are great! I’d go whichever is cheaper.
My choice is the 4Banger. It is a bit brighter but it is smaller so I can replace my factory fog lights with it. They are also smaller so they are less visible when I mount them by my A pillar.
Very solid points! For the performance these pack in the tiny little package, they are very hard to beat!
I prefer the wider beam of SS3. The lower cutoff line helps my eyes focus on what is inside the pattern.
We all have a preference!
Great video. Hard to choose, as both have favorable aspects. I still can decide
Fair enough!
Will the Morimoto 4-Banger be part of the Black Friday sale?
I’d love to mount one of these on my mountain bike 🚵♀️
so, did you do it?
@@morganbills2749 not yet
@@TheCarCrazyGuy you def should
4 banger all day!! i have these and love them
We're a big fan of the Banger series pods!
Cool that you show DD has better thermal management to maintain close to peak lux. I have ss3 sport fog yellows and I absolutely adore them.
Junction to heatsink thermal resistance itself is lower on 4 Banger( lower thermal resistance=faster thermal stabilization). Video is using preproduction sample, it was for me to record thermal behavior curve log and had a wider range. Sample start-up is set 50W saturate at 34W but Production will be 48W start-up. Saturate at 36~37W under 25C for HXB. So it will be slightly brighter at saturation than video. SS3 max was logged 46W start-up and saturated at 33W in same 25C ambient If you would like to compare with SS3 sport fog, what you want to check is NCS( base model) wide beam 4Banger NCS yellow particularly has a very narrow selected yellow spectrum that has less spectrum scatter Looks yellow and actually yellow has a true difference in contrast penetration. And NCS model uses lower-powered efficient emitters, no active Junction temp feedback driver is needed, both SS3 sport and 4 Banger NCS to be low power unit, the thermal capacity is nearly identical.
what about the non max. The lower end of the ss3
Morimoto for me .
2020 Jeep 4dr. Wrangler Willy
The 4 Bangger 💥 💯
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Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
4 banger definately
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The Morimoto 4-Banger is the best - they are here for the CROWN! 👑
YOU RIGHT!
yea i am stuck between a rock and a hard place with this. Morimoto sells to Australia Diode Dynamics doesn't but they have a light bar and there ones are SAE meaning SAE fogs in most places if placed and aimed properly are coincided secondary low beams and can be used on the road. also the back light on DD's lights means they can act like clearance lights when off. what would really make me say " SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!" would be lights that with a flick of a switch go from white to amber i rater white for normal night driving and amber for adverse conditions. thats just my opinion or money if some one makes it real.
They've had that. Full white strobe white full amber or strobe amber. 4 banger flush mount or pod.
@@frederickstirtz6429 yeah I'm not looking for strobes I'm looking for ordinary lights for driving around and being able to see the terrain.
@@phalanx3803 lol. Maybe I wasn't clear. They have 4 modes. You stated you wanted the ability to switch between white and amber at the push of a button right? There is a brand of 4 banger pod that has white option and amber option. It has the ability to stay on full white mode or full amber mode or a flash strobe if needed in both colors as mode 3 and 4... or just go between mode 1 and 2. Full white or full amber... 👍🏾
Great video. I have a Tacoma that could use the additional lighting and the morimoto looks nice. Are the HXBs legal for on road use?
The HXB is not SAE compliant but the NCS is!
Question: Will they dim if adequate airflow is provided or will they stay full illumination???
Full illumination may be a misleading term to use as full illumination can only happen in the blink of a moment. It will dim regardless, by a certain range. Any high-power LED drastically drops its initial illuminance as junction temperature ramps up. Then slowly ramp up towards full saturation. Even with maximum ideal airflow, the system will see an illumination drop. Generally, we design to retain above 85% of controlled data volume as a target. For HXB, it requires a minimum 3m/s frontal velocity to remain above 85% of initial illuminance at 25C. Without airflow, it will stabilize around 78% of initial illuminance under 25C ambient temp. Higher the ambient temp, lower the final saturation power balance. System work to prevent LED to reach critical junction points, therefore, if the system is run inside of the heated oven, for example, it further reduces output to protect the system. SS3 Max also has the same junction temp feedback drive logic to ramp down at high temp operation(85C) tests. Both SS3 max and HXB passed 100h run within less than 10% of degrading. For the NCS base model, no active ramp down generates far less heat. The only reduction will be on junction temp vs Vf drop, which is around 82% of initial illuminance at the fully saturated stage. Any questions, feel free to reply back!
@@yoshiishida6577 excellent and knowledgeable reply. Thank you very much for the information.
What is your opinion on piaa led light products?
Not even close to the performance that Morimoto/DD offers
@@nichosam000, how do you know?
@@repairvehicle I have both PIAA LP570 Driving LED (a big light) and the SS3 Max Driving. The SS3 has higher candela and it shows in real life.
Years ago I ran a pair of PIAA 610 HID 35 watt fogs (Wide 100-degree spread). They worked great and did not glare into oncoming traffic, unfortunately they are not available anymore. With advances in technology, I am looking for a true fog pattern street legal light.
How do these two compare with the yellow option as fog lights? Is one better than the other? And if going with the yellow option, is it worth the HXB or the NCS in terms of the 4 banger?
From our testing, both are great performers but the HXB will be the best of the best.
were the lights mounted at the front bumper or at the ditch?
Fogs were tested in the fog light position, ditch lights were tested in the ditch light position.
And now Rigid has the new brighter SAE Dually that has even more output than both the SS3 Max and the 4Banger HXB!!
What model is that?
@@TaurusTheCreator Sae Pro
Morimoto needs to make their light SAE compliant to make it an apples to apples. Comparison.
It is designed to satisfy SAE basic F table. However, they are currently waiting on photometric analysis validation. Both the NCS and HXB are designed to be compliant just like the other brands that claim to be. Until we have an official report, we will not mention it as SAE compliant.
@@HeadlightRevolution
I need a street legal fog light. Would you be able to compare the NCS version to the SS3 MAX and SS3 PRO?
@@lmJustGood theyre SAE rated now and is best ofer all
I wish you would've compared pricing as well
Sorry!
how could i intall these on a hyundai ioniq?
This would be a custom job!
4Banger, Hands Down..👍👍😁😁
For the win!
I dont know how they can, in good conscience, name it a 4 banger with only 3 lights. Makes my AuDHD go effing nuts.
They named it that for good reason! Though this pod only has 3 chips, it's competing and beating the 4-chip LED pods on the market!
I have a bad feeling they are going to want too much for these 4 bangers
They are priced similarly to other LED pods.
Morimoto >
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Can't get over the 3 lights and they call it a 4 banger.....🤣 like at least throw 4 lights in it I mean come on
3 LEDs, and it outperforms other 4 LED pods on the market, 4Banger 😉
Baja designs
@Joshua Beberg have to see a video of that
@Joshua Beberg yeah but that's going up against the squadron lights which don't even hold a candle to the LP series pod lights.
The best
@@frederickstirtz6429 This is 3" or less system category, particularly fog/wide beam application. LP4 like reflector system can not be small to gain efficient overall collimation, parabolic reflector loses a great amount of direct ray being not focused by reflector surface in smaller application. One of the main reasons LP4 cannot retain the required upper gradient limit to act as a fog lamp. Both DD SS3s and 4 Banger series carry high sophistication in beam composure and high-density illuminance in targeted iso candela distribution. The reason for comparing to Squadron, is simply Squadron is a 3" category LED pod lamp for a fair comparison. Does that make sense? If this video is comparing 4 bangers against S1, then you can call that's an unfair comparison. The difference in optical design philosophy has nothing to do with what is better. All depend on the purpose.
@@yoshiishida6577 I was totally thinking of the cube pods from morimoto for like 89 bucks. I am totally wrong on this one here. You definitely are correct and good info in your reply. My apologies
Baja vs dio?
Maybe one day!
DD fanboys are starting to sound like sore losers on all the forums, so i guess morimoto's is doing something right
Those leds are meant for throw, putting wide reflectors on defeats the point.
A wide beam pattern would be meant for fog lights, typically SAE-approved for the beam pattern to avoid blinding other drivers.
Still can’t beat MADE IN USA 🇺🇸.
Assembled in the USA* made with Chinese parts.
Baja Designs better than both.
Not even close to Morimoto.
Meh. Rigid / Vision X or bust.
Josh is the man that did all the testing ^
@Joshua Beberg how did the rigid fall into 3rd place if it was terrible?