As an electrician from the US, I don't know anyone here that considers the Crescent linesman pliers to be OG. They're they adjustable wrench guys and that's about it. For me, I use Klein, Channellock (high leverage non-1kv), and Wiha linesman pliers. For the work I do which is mostly industrial, I use 1KV linesman pliers when it's warranted, but if I'm just pulling fish tape or other rough work, I use non-rated pliers. I love Southwire pliers for residential stuff I've done on my home. Their specialized strippers for Romex were a game changer.
Yes guys always carry a set of strippers. Unless they have some sort of a hybrid plier. Klein makes one and they are much smaller and lighter then a normal set of linesmen’s but are not as good when used as a hammer lol
@@scotthill4742 after using kleins for years and switching to knipex the only thing I miss is being able to hammer shit. Lol Knipex cuts better with that satisfying snap, feels lighter, is generally more comfortable and doesn't gum up over time requiring lube as often like kleins do but doesn't work well for hammering. Kleins can handle a bit more abuse for sure though.
@@AddictedtoTools I just used my Wiha lineman to pull insulation off a 3 cable power cord like you were doing😂, maybe 8 gauge wire... I'll still to my combo pliers
Thanks for the feedback Rod. It’s definitely appreciated. I’m slowly growing my other collections, so I’ll see what I can do in the future. Any in particular you’re wanting to see?
@@AddictedtoTools I own and use the knipex “euro” installation pliers and have seen other versions here and there online so am mainly intrigued how they would stack up against each other in this format as I never used a other brand of those. Myself I run the veto MP1X pouch and hate putting tools in my work pants pockets So installation pliers for my are the go to as they replace my needle nose, combo pliers and side cutters ( do have a small pair of knipex side cutters for Tyraps in there too) Also being in Europe using round cable and wago’s I don’t need the wide head for twisting. ( side note I learned to combine all wires in the cable in one Wago on ruff in compared to your twist and tape. Same principle ) I like you honest personal take on it in this video Not claiming a definitive verdict but just a solid opinion
Good stuff. I’ll keep a look out for other installation pliers. With the twist and tape options, are you also running ring circuits and only having 2 cables per outlet. I believe plant places do this so it makes it a little safer. Always good to see what others are doing.
@@AddictedtoTools not so much rings as all to central ceiling boxes all in conduit. Learned it off an old spark years ago while on bigger sites as a last resort fail safe against stupid mistakes. Better to pop a breaker when someone F’s up then to have a live openend cable hanging about. But to be honest I see most just use one Wago for each wire in domestic / smaller sites. As it’s easier to track the cables. Might just be more of an old school thing here these days did learn it like 25 years ago.
Got to admit the NWS stuff is class for the money! Used knipex since the 90s and ended up with NWS as that’s the best I could get in stock in a emergency and now that’s all I use
*American Weird to see Knipex called heavy. I love my Knipex. They live in my belt which I don’t use for much except trimming out. I work service mostly so just carry my tote where my heavy Kleins live. They’re my old junkyard dogs. HD2000 9NE. Holding the Knipex after holding the Klein’s and I barely feel the bastards. Lol
Really interested in the Fujiya, especially for their price-performance. In the USA, been using the insulted knipex linesmans and really enjoyed them, but they are just biiiiiiiiig. The fujiya just seem sleek, nimble, and a ton of value.
man, I also rock the happy meal pliers. Doing the what you shouldn't do, cutting screws and stuff, the NWS just stay sharp. Yeah i copped a bit on site when I got them, however, they have outlasted channelocks and such. I have had prolly 50 pairs of pliers over the years and the cheap happy meal pliers have been the best. Not in the sense of throw away, they last. with the channelocks locking up, what causes that is if a strand of flex gets stuck the rotating bit they lock up. Only way I know to free them up is spend ages to work them till they expend the strand. Theyre overpriced and underperform anyway.
American electricians have a habit of using their linemen's pliers as hammers and thinking bigger is better. I've been getting away from that. Kleins, especially the journeyman series, are good for many commercial and industrial applications, especially as they withstand drops from heights well, but if all you're doing is cutting NM cable and twisting wire then you're probably better off with the Marvels...or a smaller cable cutter like the Russian guy uses. If you cut a lot of metallic cable then a heavy pinch cutter makes sense, but even robust cutters like the Kleins will wear out faster cutting MC every day. For MC I've been using the Klein BX Cutter model 1104 since 2016. You just nip the cable cladding, twist and pull, and then make your cuts through the insulated wire. So...I might give the Marvels or a similar pair of pliers a try.
We don’t use this type of pliers here in france ;( Because we don’t work with flat câble (it’s not sale here..) and we use rigid câble with pinch connector on everything . Not we don’t need screwdriver in outlet, socket, interuptors or panels… We use wire in a plastic sheath or rond cable. I use crosscut plier like knipex electrician or a pinch cut with my wiha tricut in plastic boxes. The crosscut of the fujima is rond and I think it will be better with our rond câble like my knipex 1376200 ;) For me the US,UK and AUS méthod is boring to no very Time consuming … Now we work With a Pz2 screwdriver and an electricien plier for 90% of the job here in france ;)
Sick vid. Agreed, crescent is horrible to use, handles are yuk. Channellock for me, still have my set from apprentice days Tho I’m due for a new set so maybe will have a look at the Wiha Everyone I supply seems to use Wiha at the moment and I had heard the new channelocks are no good too
Crescent had it's start around 1907, fantastic tools till around 1960,when they got sold. Turns out the quality soon went south as they say. Now all made in China from chicken wire and used yugo cars.
Do you think the channel lock handles will fit on the wiha pliers. Love my channel lock blue grips but not loving the wiha grips. Would love to combine the 2
I definitely want to get my mitts on the NWS 5746… can you double check that part number I’m not getting any results on the longer pliers… seems that the 205mm is the top length for NWS combi/linesman’s when it comes to current availability. Could the 5746 have been discontinued?
I have the blue Fujiyas. I think they're by far the best set of pliers you can get for $50. Once you get used to them, they're so easy to handle with the slim handles and you get a heap of leverage because they're a little longer than others. They're perfect straight out of the pack, smooth and loose action, snap shut on every cut. I've cut through screws with them and still no light comes through the cutting jaws when you hold them up. I ordered the yellow 1000v wattmaster cross cuts, made in taiwan unlike the japanese wattmasters which was a little dissapointing and stiff to open and close. Another great buy was the VDE NWS pliers in the single pack from bunnings, they were better than the double or triple plier pack but no longer on their website
Black and gold for me for side cutters and lineman. I do like the flush cut version better and hold up well. Sadly I can't get marvels in the US even az jp it would cost me almost 100 us. On thr insulated front 20 percent are 1k rated in my techpack and u have more than the average American. I do prefer dipped knipex handles super slim and fits more tools in the bag by quite a bit. My most used pliers I'd say knipex instalation pliers 12/14g though I'm jealous of the eu spring loaded version. Don't worry even in usa thoes milwaukee pliers even the made in USA ones are kinda a joke just hd trash among the people I meet. Thoea in the know buy real pliers nws rebrands or knipex.
Could I use the NWS and Fujiyas like hammers like i do the kleins? I wanna grab knipex, but ive heard about them getting fucked up and start to slip after using them as beaters like we so in the US
Not many electricians here in the USA use it, but I do because I'm both a gun owner and an electrician. It's good stuff. So are the Inox products made in Australia.
Great video mate. I bought a fair of those Crescent pliers a year ago with the side cutters, haven’t used them since as they were awful. I reckon I got a set of those Wattmaster cross cut pliers with the side cutters but they have dark blue handles instead and might be a 1000V rated. I’ve also got some other pair of pliers that’s a Crescent but has a yellow handle and is pinch cut. What pliers do you recommended in terms of needle nose pliers?
Honestly I agree, for the moment I might grab a pair of marvels or my wiha crosscuts and put knipex handles on them until knipex releases their own pair of cross cuts
Hey mate have the NWS Combination Pliers - 225mm Been Discontinued? I legit cannot find a single pair of them for sale anywhere and even the NWS website doesn't have them listed. have you heard anything?
@@AddictedtoTools There is only 2x for sale in Australia atm and they're on Ebay, I just bought one of them in case they have been discontinued or no longer shipped to AUS.
I though the thousand volt rated means the shoulder. Hence why all the shown 1000v rated pliers have them. They're all tested to the same voltage I believe. Love the video. Definitely a cross cut fan aswell.
Hey Matt. Would love to see your opinion on the Trojan pliers at Bunnings. $25, lifetime warranty, and 1000V rated. Although not the loosest or the sharpest, they are an excellent entry item
The Trojans were my first pair as an apprentice and they were easily the worst pliers I've ever used. Better than nothing, but not by much. They're really not worth it in my opinion
Keep in mind... When looking at stuff from Bunnings?... They're not intended for the full time tradies. They advertise on TV for starters (everything's online now!) Tradies are watching targeted videos and the algorithms are learning what's valuable to them. Which means specialist, informed and educated advertising. (Not diy quick fix or "doing the best you can with what you have" type market.) Bunnings are not serious about selling you a quality, well engineered product! They want to sell you Ryobi! (A compromise!)
@@AddictedtoTools sounds like a good idea for those who maybe just want a set laying in a storage cupboard. That’s what I’ve got those Trojans for, but Sydney Tools also have their Xtorque for $10!! Also 1000V rated but would assume they are much like the Aldi and would only use in a pinch. I run the NWS 225s and both the red and the orange Marvels. Good to see we are on the same page. Would like to give that handle change a go on the Marvels but not rich enough to get a pair of channelocks just to try it.
As an electrician from the US, I don't know anyone here that considers the Crescent linesman pliers to be OG. They're they adjustable wrench guys and that's about it. For me, I use Klein, Channellock (high leverage non-1kv), and Wiha linesman pliers. For the work I do which is mostly industrial, I use 1KV linesman pliers when it's warranted, but if I'm just pulling fish tape or other rough work, I use non-rated pliers.
I love Southwire pliers for residential stuff I've done on my home. Their specialized strippers for Romex were a game changer.
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in Russia, we do not use pliers to bite the wire, we use cable cutters for this, I have a Weidmuller KT8 for this, including up to 35mm2
Awesome video! Thanks for doing this!
No worries luke. It was a fun one to finally go through
Hello, I congratulate you for the video, I loved seeing so many options for pliers and their performance, greetings
Oh btw, knipex pliers only for me - that’s all I’ll use. Surprised they are so heavy as they weigh the least out of any American linesman
I have noticed a lot of the American linesman are larger and heavier. But then you usually use strippers for fitting off. Is that correct?
Yes guys always carry a set of strippers. Unless they have some sort of a hybrid plier.
Klein makes one and they are much smaller and lighter then a normal set of linesmen’s but are not as good when used as a hammer lol
@@AddictedtoToolswe use strippers, the insulation on wires are not really flexible so using cutters isn't as easy and reliable as stripper
@@scotthill4742 after using kleins for years and switching to knipex the only thing I miss is being able to hammer shit. Lol
Knipex cuts better with that satisfying snap, feels lighter, is generally more comfortable and doesn't gum up over time requiring lube as often like kleins do but doesn't work well for hammering.
Kleins can handle a bit more abuse for sure though.
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I just used my Wiha lineman to pull insulation off a 3 cable power cord like you were doing😂, maybe 8 gauge wire...
I'll still to my combo pliers
Really liked the video and good comparison for sure.
Would love to see more of these maybe installation pliers and side cutters ?
Thanks for the feedback Rod. It’s definitely appreciated. I’m slowly growing my other collections, so I’ll see what I can do in the future. Any in particular you’re wanting to see?
@@AddictedtoTools I own and use the knipex “euro” installation pliers and have seen other versions here and there online so am mainly intrigued how they would stack up against each other in this format as I never used a other brand of those.
Myself I run the veto MP1X pouch and hate putting tools in my work pants pockets
So installation pliers for my are the go to as they replace my needle nose, combo pliers and side cutters ( do have a small pair of knipex side cutters for Tyraps in there too)
Also being in Europe using round cable and wago’s I don’t need the wide head for twisting. ( side note I learned to combine all wires in the cable in one Wago on ruff in compared to your twist and tape. Same principle )
I like you honest personal take on it in this video
Not claiming a definitive verdict but just a solid opinion
Good stuff. I’ll keep a look out for other installation pliers. With the twist and tape options, are you also running ring circuits and only having 2 cables per outlet. I believe plant places do this so it makes it a little safer. Always good to see what others are doing.
@@AddictedtoTools not so much rings as all to central ceiling boxes all in conduit.
Learned it off an old spark years ago while on bigger sites as a last resort fail safe against stupid mistakes.
Better to pop a breaker when someone F’s up then to have a live openend cable hanging about.
But to be honest I see most just use one Wago for each wire in domestic / smaller sites. As it’s easier to track the cables.
Might just be more of an old school thing here these days did learn it like 25 years ago.
Got to admit the NWS stuff is class for the money! Used knipex since the 90s and ended up with NWS as that’s the best I could get in stock in a emergency and now that’s all I use
*American
Weird to see Knipex called heavy. I love my Knipex. They live in my belt which I don’t use for much except trimming out. I work service mostly so just carry my tote where my heavy Kleins live. They’re my old junkyard dogs. HD2000 9NE. Holding the Knipex after holding the Klein’s and I barely feel the bastards. Lol
Cant believe no Gedore and Bahco pliers? These two are probably the only ones to compete with Knipex..
Really interested in the Fujiya, especially for their price-performance. In the USA, been using the insulted knipex linesmans and really enjoyed them, but they are just biiiiiiiiig. The fujiya just seem sleek, nimble, and a ton of value.
Couldn’t agree more mate. A lot lighter and slimmer. Definitely worth looking into
I use the Fujiha flush cuts they’re the best pliers I’ve ever used
man, I also rock the happy meal pliers. Doing the what you shouldn't do, cutting screws and stuff, the NWS just stay sharp. Yeah i copped a bit on site when I got them, however, they have outlasted channelocks and such. I have had prolly 50 pairs of pliers over the years and the cheap happy meal pliers have been the best. Not in the sense of throw away, they last.
with the channelocks locking up, what causes that is if a strand of flex gets stuck the rotating bit they lock up. Only way I know to free them up is spend ages to work them till they expend the strand. Theyre overpriced and underperform anyway.
love these types of videos Matt, what love to see similar videos on beakys and side cutters etc aswell
American electricians have a habit of using their linemen's pliers as hammers and thinking bigger is better. I've been getting away from that. Kleins, especially the journeyman series, are good for many commercial and industrial applications, especially as they withstand drops from heights well, but if all you're doing is cutting NM cable and twisting wire then you're probably better off with the Marvels...or a smaller cable cutter like the Russian guy uses. If you cut a lot of metallic cable then a heavy pinch cutter makes sense, but even robust cutters like the Kleins will wear out faster cutting MC every day. For MC I've been using the Klein BX Cutter model 1104 since 2016. You just nip the cable cladding, twist and pull, and then make your cuts through the insulated wire. So...I might give the Marvels or a similar pair of pliers a try.
Marvel pliers every day in Sydney, everyone knows they’re the best
Damn that's a lot of work
In North Korean, we use our teeth for everything: cut, trim, strip....
Great vid. And not because NWS 225's are my pick for best too 👍🏼
We don’t use this type of pliers here in france ;(
Because we don’t work with flat câble (it’s not sale here..) and we use rigid câble with pinch connector on everything . Not we don’t need screwdriver in outlet, socket, interuptors or panels…
We use wire in a plastic sheath or rond cable.
I use crosscut plier like knipex electrician or a pinch cut with my wiha tricut in plastic boxes.
The crosscut of the fujima is rond and I think it will be better with our rond câble like my knipex 1376200 ;)
For me the US,UK and AUS méthod is boring to no very Time consuming …
Now we work With a Pz2 screwdriver and an electricien plier for 90% of the job here in france ;)
Sick vid.
Agreed, crescent is horrible to use, handles are yuk.
Channellock for me, still have my set from apprentice days
Tho I’m due for a new set so maybe will have a look at the Wiha
Everyone I supply seems to use Wiha at the moment and I had heard the new channelocks are no good too
Hi sir, im from indonesian, btw, i like knipexs and milwaukee pliers, please give me, knipex or milwaukee pliers..
Knipex range is so good! Such high quality, but for us Aussies, the pliers aren't as comfortably suited to what we do. Just my two cents.
I can’t find the nws pliers 5746 anywhere can someone help me
Crescent had it's start around 1907, fantastic tools till around 1960,when they got sold. Turns out the quality soon went south as they say. Now all made in China from chicken wire and used yugo cars.
Always got the piss taken out of me with my workmate pliers from middys
Still have the pair I got given in my first year, good solid plier
Do you think the channel lock handles will fit on the wiha pliers. Love my channel lock blue grips but not loving the wiha grips. Would love to combine the 2
Hey mate, I haven’t tried it but I know someone that put the wiha handles on the marvels, so i assume they would
Cross cuts all the way i did see you are missing the yellow handle wattmasters pretty much the marvels with the channel lock handles
I think the lengths listed are for the bare tool or maybe the simple dipped handle.
I can't find those NWS 1092-69-225 anywhere except Bunnings, but I live in Canada. Can anyone help? They're not even on NWS site.
X torque cross cuts from Sydney tools are good for 30 bucks
Wtf? 😂😂😂🤣
Have you talked to your doctor about this?
30?!?!!
😂🤣
😂aha yeah I did. He prescribed me a new pair of pliers
@@AddictedtoTools
Yeh yeh, cause he did! 🤣😂🤣😂
Nws 225mm look to be discontinued
Cant wait to see
I have the Wiha 41250-8675309-ATWJ2-AIHN I 7GEBXJDBEGS276YJO9
My first pair were the Milwaukee 😂 great hammer function built-in
No vampliers?
NWS 2 piece set $75 now
Wow they’ve jumped up. Thanks for the feedback mate
I definitely want to get my mitts on the NWS 5746… can you double check that part number I’m not getting any results on the longer pliers… seems that the 205mm is the top length for NWS combi/linesman’s when it comes to current availability. Could the 5746 have been discontinued?
It looks like Milwaukee are making NWS pliers now... I have a pair of NWS 225's from bunnings that I've been using for 5 years or so now. Fantastic!
I have the blue Fujiyas. I think they're by far the best set of pliers you can get for $50. Once you get used to them, they're so easy to handle with the slim handles and you get a heap of leverage because they're a little longer than others. They're perfect straight out of the pack, smooth and loose action, snap shut on every cut. I've cut through screws with them and still no light comes through the cutting jaws when you hold them up. I ordered the yellow 1000v wattmaster cross cuts, made in taiwan unlike the japanese wattmasters which was a little dissapointing and stiff to open and close. Another great buy was the VDE NWS pliers in the single pack from bunnings, they were better than the double or triple plier pack but no longer on their website
Black and gold for me for side cutters and lineman. I do like the flush cut version better and hold up well. Sadly I can't get marvels in the US even az jp it would cost me almost 100 us. On thr insulated front 20 percent are 1k rated in my techpack and u have more than the average American. I do prefer dipped knipex handles super slim and fits more tools in the bag by quite a bit. My most used pliers I'd say knipex instalation pliers 12/14g though I'm jealous of the eu spring loaded version. Don't worry even in usa thoes milwaukee pliers even the made in USA ones are kinda a joke just hd trash among the people I meet. Thoea in the know buy real pliers nws rebrands or knipex.
Could I use the NWS and Fujiyas like hammers like i do the kleins? I wanna grab knipex, but ive heard about them getting fucked up and start to slip after using them as beaters like we so in the US
Nice vid. I've found Ballistol works very well on tight pliers.
Not many electricians here in the USA use it, but I do because I'm both a gun owner and an electrician. It's good stuff. So are the Inox products made in Australia.
OG MVA-200s forever anything else borders on patent infringement IMO
Not a sparky but have a pair of nws on the boat for cutting big hooks out stuff and cutting hardened steel hooks one handed is not easy task
Channel locks aren’t what they used to be, had a few pairs lock myself. Nws all the way these days
Cheers for the feedback mate. Glad it’s not just me. It’s definitely a shame but the it’s good to see others liking the nws👌
Channel locks are brutal for cutting. They just done have the leverage to cut anything bigger then a #8 awg or a 10 mm
Great video mate. I bought a fair of those Crescent pliers a year ago with the side cutters, haven’t used them since as they were awful. I reckon I got a set of those Wattmaster cross cut pliers with the side cutters but they have dark blue handles instead and might be a 1000V rated. I’ve also got some other pair of pliers that’s a Crescent but has a yellow handle and is pinch cut.
What pliers do you recommended in terms of needle nose pliers?
Best pliers for someone with a hand length of 17.5cm?😬
Soak those locked up ones in penetrating oil overnight.
Never used cross cuts. Are they any good to strip with
For pliers Knipex are No1 and then places empty.. I was using meny of them but Knipex are the best Made in Germany. Wiha is Made in Vietnam
Honestly I agree, for the moment I might grab a pair of marvels or my wiha crosscuts and put knipex handles on them until knipex releases their own pair of cross cuts
Wohoo!
Is the part number actually nws 5746 because i cant find it anywhere online
Yeah. If you look for nws 225mm it should come up
Fujiya! Yeah!
Knipex is the best
Nice comparison.. you know your pliers.
Hey mate have the NWS Combination Pliers - 225mm Been Discontinued? I legit cannot find a single pair of them for sale anywhere and even the NWS website doesn't have them listed. have you heard anything?
Hey mate. I’ve found the same thing. I’ve actually emailed nws to see if I can stock them. I haven’t heard back yet though unfortunately
@@AddictedtoTools you and I both mate, they’re no longer on their website either. I’ll let you know if they reply to my message too.
@@AddictedtoTools There is only 2x for sale in Australia atm and they're on Ebay, I just bought one of them in case they have been discontinued or no longer shipped to AUS.
quick mate put the video on private before the missus sees
😂 i blocked her
I though the thousand volt rated means the shoulder. Hence why all the shown 1000v rated pliers have them. They're all tested to the same voltage I believe.
Love the video. Definitely a cross cut fan aswell.
Hey Matt. Would love to see your opinion on the Trojan pliers at Bunnings. $25, lifetime warranty, and 1000V rated. Although not the loosest or the sharpest, they are an excellent entry item
Cheers for the insight Patrick. I haven’t used them but they looked similar to the workzone pair. Maybe I’ll do a video on the cheapest sets
The Trojans were my first pair as an apprentice and they were easily the worst pliers I've ever used. Better than nothing, but not by much. They're really not worth it in my opinion
Keep in mind...
When looking at stuff from Bunnings?... They're not intended for the full time tradies.
They advertise on TV for starters (everything's online now!)
Tradies are watching targeted videos and the algorithms are learning what's valuable to them. Which means specialist, informed and educated advertising. (Not diy quick fix or "doing the best you can with what you have" type market.)
Bunnings are not serious about selling you a quality, well engineered product! They want to sell you Ryobi! (A compromise!)
@@AddictedtoTools sounds like a good idea for those who maybe just want a set laying in a storage cupboard. That’s what I’ve got those Trojans for, but Sydney Tools also have their Xtorque for $10!! Also 1000V rated but would assume they are much like the Aldi and would only use in a pinch. I run the NWS 225s and both the red and the orange Marvels. Good to see we are on the same page. Would like to give that handle change a go on the Marvels but not rich enough to get a pair of channelocks just to try it.
My favourite is Klein..
Seems like you’re addicted to cox LOL
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The Knipex on the bench behind are awesome too
Hey Matt, got a question what do you prefer total tools or sydney tools?
If they were the same distance away I would go to Sydney tools. Larger range and usually more stock from what I’ve experienced