RAF Scampton: Nearby residents react to proposals to house 2,000 asylum seekers at airbase
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- RAF Scampton in Lincolnshire is best known for being where the "dambusting" bomber squadron was based during the Second World War.
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The huge site closed for military use back in March with the Government saying it wants to accommodate up to two thousand people there who are seeking asylum.
The local council and many residents object to the plans but not everyone is opposed.
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There's no split. We don't want it. We want it to be developed as was the plan. This has ZERO benefit to the local population, only downsides.
I want them there.
The land could easily be shared, and be great for the area.
You have ZERO voice other than your own, and I find your tone embarrassing as a modern Brit.
Go on, tell me to send them to my house again. 😂😂😂
@@ascgazz Why would it be great for the area???? waiting???
@@ianc7866 lol “waiting???”
That’s brilliant. Enjoy it.
@@ianc7866 hello??
Was I too close? 😂😂😂
@@ascgazz you've still not answered.
The community isn’t split. The split is between the community and the authoritarian government
Is the end of this country! Unbelievable
The community is not split. I live in Lincoln and there is overwhelming opposition to the illegal migrants being housed here. The usual disingenuous output from channel 4.
Follow the money, someone in the government wants this to make money. If they want to, they could process claims quicker
nope, not money. It's a treaty all EU countries have signed called the Barcelona agreement, signed without our consent, behind our backs and kept quiet. It forces Europe to meld with Asian countries of 3rd world by mixing ethnicity and creating a Eurasian super continent. I suspect it's a condition of the west going broke and having to accept Saudi money to prop up our economies.
Princess Ann's husband is BBC licence chasers capita, who it's said bought up 60 million reduced to20 mila try ex camps, works for some.
I feel so sorry for all these rural areas that are being used by the government to house all these grifters from abroad.
Different values. She means they are afraid of being sexually assualted
Have a day off 😊
Do yourself a favour and look up 'The Night that changed Germany's attitude to refugees'.
Exactly rape will go up 10000%
@@tiredgardenerSaw it the other day, gangs of immigrants molesting women, stealing and fighting.
I don't blame them for being scared, that's a lot of men they want to bring there, I would be to scared to go out or let any children go out either ☹
And we wonder why Lincoln Christmas Market has closed this year over security reasons.
You can't get a place more opposite of the streets of London than rural Lincolnshire around Scampton.
The people are outnumbered by sheep.
We once had a couple from London retire to a house in the same road as where my parents live in their small rural Lincolnshire village. They thought it was great until experiencing a couple of winters out here. They upsticks and left. It was too harsh for them.
Being cut off for days with no amenities because the roads were impassible so you couldn't even get to a supermarket for bread and milk, no electricity for days so there was no internet and no mobile phone reception so it's not like they could ring anyone. It was literally sit and wait it out in a cold house.
That soon showed who the southern softies were. They had to move to somewhere which was less isolated so they at least had a few shops, a restraunt and pub nearby.
Hey up Stuart,this is fertile Tory land (due to the £3billion in farming subsidies,they even get paid for cutting their hedges. Wiki the Renewable Heat Incentive Scheme 2011 …and see the millions they’re getting for heating their homes n businesses.) With this corrupt Tory Govt. it pays to be the right breed of sheep,cos most are millionaires.
PS It’s the 21st century,even in Lincs.They aren’t ‘southern softies’they know about civilisation…..unlike your carrot-crunching Yellowbellies.
Southern softies ? Bit prejudice?
Literally closing the door after the horse has bolted. Not like we've had 13 years of the same government to organise all this, I mean can't be anything to do with the fact that less than 1% of people have been processed since arriving in a small boat over a year ago
why are the contractors still in r a f scampton, they have been told to leave ,its disgraceful that our government breaks the law when it wants !
And why exactly are they all young men?
When you flee war, you take your family with you.
When you goto war, you leave them at home.
Those people will sip in every single little crack of the country until it is all theirs. Soon in cathedrals, Museums, then ur spare room or even ur living room. It has no end
Who would have thought that the Tories would do this to their own, and in the countries highest Brexit voting region !!! I bet they just love Peppa Pigs oven ready deal.
😬
another remoaner boring us to death
We told you 500,000 times, do NOT bomb other countries, do NOT fund regime change in other countries.
Blame ur govt, EU, NATO and the US. Do NOT export 'freedom and democracy''. Do NOT plunder and loot countries.
You failed to listen. In the future, tens of millions more will come.
What an intelligent, considered response.
@@Hartley_Hare thanks 👍
Can we house MP's with them pending deportation to the mid-atlantic
Infrastructure is not coping at all even before 9million extra people decided to come here over the past twenty years... government's have short term memories for long term problems 🤔
If you spoke to the local community, I would guess that the divide between those in favour of the centre and those against would be about 15% to 85%. That would be pretty typical of the views of people in the UK. At the last UK general election (2019) less than 1% of the UK population voted for a far-right party, yet Channel 4 , as always on this dort of issue wants to associate the 85% of people opposed to this plan with the 1% of the population who hold ultra right wing ideas.
It is the same in France. In order to clean Paris of the migrant tents, EVERY council is forced to house them, thus spreading an evil, unwanted marmite all other the country despite people’s protests.
A mayor house was burnt during the night, he fled but another one continues with the project. Everywhere
These "refugees" have lost everything, including their women and children.... Luckily they managed to save their smartphones and cigarettes. 🤔🤔🤔
@dondoodat They managed to save their smartphones and cigarettes, I saaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! 🤔🤔
We told you 500,000 times, do NOT bomb other countries, do NOT fund regime change in other countries.
Blame ur govt, EU, NATO and the US. Do NOT export 'freedom and democracy''. Do NOT plunder and loot countries.
You failed to listen. In the future, tens of millions more will come.
@@franckcolomb5579 been another attack.
2 thousand god help the locals, if hemmed in they will go berserk demanding homes, trouble big trouble, with only 250 hemmed in they burnt part of the camp in protest to be housed,, ask about folkestone, and penaly.
The community isn't split. They don't want 2000 fighting age men.
We have been sold it via men, women, and children for years, there is no women and children, none.
Imagine living happily in a nice, clean, safe environment and suddenly a penpusher, far away sends a cloud of locusts to u….
Imagine describing fellow human beings as locusts.
@@Pining_for_the_fjords u are absolutely right, its a bad example. Locusts dont stay more that a few days at one spot. I experienced it first hand in Brazil, impressive, disastrous but short. Migrants on the other hand…
If I lived there I would be worried. We all saw the baby stabbings in France and the African migrant trying to steal a little girl from her grandmother.
@@jimpath9586 it will be worse as they will b 2000. All young, all horny, all hardened criminals. They aim? Dislodge the local to extend the muslim territories
Be very worried. They will integrate like oil and water
This absolutely breaks my heart ! Leave that historic site untouched. Preserve the heritage and put those immigrants somewhere far less sensitive.
Best wishes from Australia. Our flyers were part of the 617 squadron and I just think this whole site should be a museum 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
YES. 300 thousand people annually for 25 years has ruined this place. Turn off the tap then we can discuss how to bail out all this unwanted sewage water.
This is nothing compared to how many countries and lives your government ruined over the years due to greed and imperialism. So please be quiet.
It is a proven fact that immigration has ADDED to the economy of the country proven by the issues in the NHS, farming, manufacturing and just about every sector post Brexit now all the foreign workers, "who took our jobs" , have left.
And you have the gall to call other people "degenerates" and "monsters"...
@@ogribiker8535 We have a massive labour surplus crushing wages down and making it so most young people will never own a home, leaving them perpetual rent slaves. Its benefitted the economy but only for the owners and property class.
Sure some immigrants become doctors but they bring so many more dependents its a net negative.
@@crown9413 What alternative planet are you on?????. We have a massive labour shortage you muppet. Immigrants pay more taxes, fact . So go on show just one economic report that says otherwise (I mean an actual economic report not some op ed in the Daily Fail), just one!. Then show one that says immigration costs more than it generates!.
I wonder where will be next for endless flow of strapping young men? How about care homes? More COVID boosters for the elderly would facilitate this!
I’m an immigrant and I don’t agree that they should be placed there.
Use the runway load the dinghy divers on to aircraft and remove back to country of origin simple. Dna can be used to determine country of origin.
DNA?
DNA says nothing about country of origin.
Ah the Jeremy Kyle generational school of though that DNA is conclusive and final.
One does have to ask the question. Why an airbase? Why in such a remote and secluded area away from the public eye?
Why an airbase though?
If they won’t tell you their country of origin, ship them back halfway…somewhere over an open body of water will do.
I must lack some kind of logic , all the past and its heritage will be lost because of migrates.But, a private deal will secure all the history and the company are going to preserve the site.Very generous of them...or as we all know capitalism is about profit, not sentimentality.
If these are genuine asylum seekers and not just illegal economic migrants chancing their arm I have no problem here and would have no problem with this if the base were right next to me. However, we (and Europe more generally) needs to seriously address the migration issue. I’m pro legal immigration and obviously pro helping out genuine asylum seekers. But we have borders in this world, for better or worse, and surely every country, *every* country has the right to determine *exactly* who and who it does not admit. In the same way that every home-owner has a right to decide who to let into their house, Europe has this same right. As far as I can tell, most (the vast majority in fact) of the incoming migrants to Europe are simply economic migrants and unless they have specific skills they can contribute to a given country’s economy or unless they are bona fide *genuine* refugees fleeing life-threatening war/persecution, a strong message should be sent out that the doors will be locked when they arrive at Europe’s house.
@dondoodat Neither do I. All I’m saying is that the host country decides for economic migrants. There is enough opportunity on this planet for many of these migrants to go to places other than Europe. If someone came to your front door and kicked it open demanding the right to stay you’d not be happy. And you’d be right not to be happy. Economic immigration should always be at the say of the host country, whichever country that may be.
@dondoodat Not a “drama queen” response at all. Perfectly calm and logical here, mate. Last year there were 45,755 arriving in boats across the Channel. Some of these people will be genuine asylum seekers and those who are can stay, no further debate. The vast majority, however, are young men seeking economic opportunity. That’s fine. All I’m saying is that the UK has the right of refusal if they are economic migrants. This really *isn’t* that difficult and I’m not sure why it’s even up for debate.
These "refugees" have lost everything, including their women and children.... Luckily they managed to save their smartphones and cigarettes. 🤔🤔🤔
Many countries have borders but that didn't stop the British Army from invading. Iraqis and Afghans have as much right to be here as British troops have to be in their countries!
@@khoyrulislam Quite.
Then?
Who will pay for the asylum seekers expenses?
When saying, we should home our own homeless first, they should go to London and import the homeless from there.
We don't need theses people let alone house them,we have to pay for this lot.
The mortgage rate won't affect them,cost of living not a problem to them.
You fought really hard over this....oh, wait
Join Great British Gaurdians and together we can stop this invasion
Had to give it a thumb down after she called the vulnerable men I'm sorry but there's nothing vulnerable about them they made it all the way here from God knows where with no problem
The lady who spoke about the asylum seekers having different values and how women are treated - she should check out the stats on rape, child abuse and domestic violence in the UK.
Carried out by immigrants
Parky Stanley
meh
The immigrants seldom fit in with UK standards of living
Imported culture is the problem.
It's a plot. Get them all on the site. Load them all onto cargo plane for a joy ride. And, then, fly to Africa and drop them off on a deserted airstrip.
Next load please!
Just remember, the Tories did this.
Let's see if I've got this right. Housing asylum seekers on a part of Scampton's 800 acres is a "bad thing." Edward Leigh says it's not about being anti migrant but about the particular historic significance of Scampton and its runway. Its association with the 1943 dams raid, etc, is historically important. Fair enough. Then, he says that it jeopardises a £ 300 million development proposal for the site of RAF Scampton. Am I missing something ? If you're going to develop the Scampton site, which usually means houses or / and a business park, how does that "preserve" its historic runway and buildings ? WHY would you preserve a runway at all, unless you keep it as an airfield ? RAF Wickenby the wartime HQ of 626 squadron among others is smaller than Scampton, but its runway, or at least a big chunk it is preserved, because it's still used. Wickenby is in use as an airfield for light aircraft and microlights. Unless you keep Scampton as an airfield, even if a civil one, why would you keep a runway ? Personally I don't see the difference between a part of it being used for asylum seekers, or all of it disappearing under Barratt boxes.
Put the fleas on the goverment back he can't scratch all over at same time.
They’ve got to go somewhere. We’ve all got to make sacrifices and not fob them off to other areas. It’s a national effort.
Selling out your country and birth right for wokeness
Well said. Very brave and very honest.
There’s an endless supply of indigent African men. How far should your national effort go?
@@patrickdoyle9304 - To all those brave enough to make the journey here. They’re obviously desperate to be here and after such great effort, have earned it.
Estimates are that by 2050 the number of refugees from Climate Change will be 1.2billion.
Shall we find homes for all of those people? Where are we going to put them, how are we going to feed them? What jobs can we provide them? How will the health care system manage?
it wont stop just wasting your time talking about it , no one has the answer
Congratulations 🥳 to you all 🎉
Send them ALL home.
The population of Scampton is 1,358. Adding 2,000 people to that population is going to have a while slew of issues. Access to health care, strain on the infrastrucutre, and as they will be refugees they will have little to no purpose/daily activity to keep them occupied.
The Woman at the end was rught about how they may hikd different values, if they come from outsode a Western country they may not be as accepting towards the LGB community, or Feminism. Why are we so helbent on throwing all the progress that we have made into the dirt?
It really is going to be an utter catastrophe.
Tbf, Lincoln is less than 6 miles away, so I’m sure it has enough “infrastructure” to cope.
We managed 2 world wars. A bit of war effort is now needed by all of us.
@@titteryenot4524 6 Miles is quite far if you have no money for public transport.
@colliehouse3133 we did, and that was 1) almost 4 generations ago, and 2) this is completely different situation, WW and this are not good comparisons.
@@tiredgardener I was referring to “infrastructure”; ie. access to health care. And anyway, as I understand it these people get a daily allowance so I’m sure they could catch a bus to Lincoln.
just bare in mind this is the real racism dianne got kicked out of labour for pointing out
The government refuse to deport these people and I hate to say it people are moaning over the costs of the hotels and parts of England are full I live in Kent and it’s over run and so has the crime got out of hand but others wanted them to ring put in hotels so where do they go parts of the country are already full?
And she said lots of stay home mums live there why are they not out working?
10 million out of work in this country and yet their are jobs many crying out for staff yet no one wants to work?
Much better to put them in poor areas, why should tory voters put up with these people.
Congratulations 🥳 on winning
It is no use placating your do gooder attitude by just providing accommodation. You need to give refugees and asylum seekers a sense of purpose - and that means providing them with a means of enhancing thief self worth by PROVIDING jobs and education. If you just dump them, patting yourself on the back for all to see, then, you are creating a problem and you should be held accountable.
No, you just need to speculate that an iconic RAF base might be used to home refugees. That way, on one side you have people who are proud of british soldiers and on the other side you have people tolerant of refugees. You cant be both, youre polar opposites, get busy and hate eachother.
This plan has nothing to do with refugees. A refugee is someone whose asylum claim has been successfully processed and they've been found to meet the domestic criteria for asylum. All refugees are temporary and must return to their county of origin once the conflict or regime which makes them eligible for asylum has ended.
The people this plan is about are people whom have made an irregular border crossing and have subsequently claimed asylum. Claiming asylum does not automatically make someone a refugee nor does it automatically make their claim valid.
No, asylum claimants are not entitled to work during their initial processing period. That isn't just domestic law, it's part of the refugees convention.
Shudda stayed in France then
At 3:00 - 3:05 I could actually hear their brain cells rattling together.
Your country will never know anything about the far right
This is the strangest and possibly stupidest comment yet...
District 9
They need to muck in and lump it. Once the crisis is over they can always restore the base to its former glory, not so easy for the lives of real people.
Would you like to submit your address to the government to build a mobile refugee home in your back garden then? You need to muck in and lump it after all. They’ll make great neighbours for your daughters.
@@bogglesbiggins1101 As a Briton living in Germany, I can give you some advice. The Germans do their fair share. Either put up or shut up.
Kalergi
Always not in my backyard. He's more concerned about the dead than the living. It's a big open field that serves no current purpose
I think they deserve decent accommodation... but not at RAF Scampton. That's hallowed ground.
So are cemeteries and museums.
@@Hartley_Hareso how long is an appropriate time to fixate on destruction and death we inflicted on Germany before moving on?
@@ascgazz Ah, yes. Blameless Germany, foully bombed by the evil swine of the RAF for no good reason other than that they had started a genocidal war of conquest.
Why not stuff a few of them in ur bedroom. It is of no use to me.
I have major concerns about the whole asylum situation...Where were the 'England for the English' when they colonized and destroyed dozens of countries. I am sure that those people felt 'my country for my people..... The chickens have come home......
Yes, because these people were alive back when that happened...
Oh wait!
so you think your children should have a miserable life because people hundreds of years ago went to their countries. You people are thick as mince
so... it's a punishment for historical crimes...?
but i thought it was a benefit... an 'enrichment'... diversity is our strength... no..?
“The fear of the unknown..” as yes, they dont have tv or newspaper in rural areas
casual racism alive and well in the UK
that's not all they bring with them...
So, we’d rather be stuck in the past and focused on our own inflicted destruction against Germany, than help people in genuine need of help from us right now?
Not very charitable is it.
There isn’t enough charity to go around for everyone. This isn’t a fairy tale.
@@725k9 says who?
You?
How have you calculated exactly how much of the country’s charity has been used so far?
..and how do you know how much is left?
@@725k9 ok, so why don’t you tell us all how much money was written off by Sunak when he was Chancellor.
Written off as “Fraud”, and tell me how much he has recovered. .. bearing me in mind, we know exactly who has the money and recovering it should be very simple.
Then you can tell us how much more tax could willingly be taken from the fossil fuel giants who already admitted they expect to pay more tax..
Then you can try and put a figure on how much Boris Johnson’s legal fees ALONE could have paid for for our veterans.
Let alone what he forced the country to waste on Brexit.
The country will likely never recover from these factors, but YOU have been well trained to hate the people begging for help, arriving wet and weary in tiny dangerous boats having idolised OUR country for years, BUT because OUR government shut down ALL LEGAL ENTRY now EVERYONE has to risk their life to get to a generous, wealthy little island because ANOTHER DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS is trying to shut the door for political equity among the extreme right.
You don’t know what the country is capable of so stop pretending you do and covering it in nationally embarrassing and obvious xenophobic hatred with stupid comments like yours.
Go away and do some research about what this government has spent OUR MONEY on for the last thirteen years before you flap your stupid little fingers again, and stop blaming the most desperate people on earth for YOUR IGNORANCE.
@@725k9 tell me you’re old and racist without telling me you’re old and racist.
We can celebrate our history and look after people who need it. This isn't either/or.
Where do they want them to go instead?
Japan is having a population crisis. One that experts keep saying could be resolved if only Japan allowed for immigration/refugees.
So, why can't Japan take a chunk of the numbers.
@@tiredgardener why don't they?
HOME!!!! Even friendly ET had to!.
@@tiredgardener Japanese are proud of their country and culture, unlike mix-and-match England.
@@franckcolomb5579 this is their home now
Refugees welcome!
As long as you are not housing them where you live
@@JamesyahyahDo you want to have running water - yes. Are you ok with living right next to a water plant - obviously no. Do you don’t deserve running water
@@GoogleAccount-tf6lh What the fxxk are you on about
LOL WW2. The defensive war. Britian only jumped in when they knew the russsians had turned the tide.