FIRST TIME WATCHING | Hellraiser (1987) | Movie Reaction | I Love A Good Puzzle!
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- Thanks to Grandaddy, The Uber Geek, with the Special Request, both of us watch Hellraiser (1987) for the first time. Here's our reaction. Don't forget to check out his shoutout's TH-cam Channel, @HeelvsBabyface!
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My favorite line in the film: “No tears, please. It’s a waste of good suffering.”
Always makes me think of
"Fear and pain may accompany death, but it is desire that shepherds its certainty, as we shall see."
that Doug Bradley recorded for a cameo in a Cradle of Filth song.
Similarly, his excited little "We have such *sights* to show you!" It really conveys that they just operate on an entirely different wavelength.
“Demons to some, Angels to others…” really gets to me
Mine is “Jesus Wept”
@@LongandWeirdName Same.
The heaven they mention is actually pain because some people love S&M which is what basically the whole of the films in the Hellraiser series is about!!
Yeah, more of a 'heaven' for perverts. XD
exactly! Demons to some,angels to others...
@@leonefurlan137 Well, yes, that's what they say in the movie but is there really no "good" entity? There should be some kinda positive force in these movies but they don't show any.
Even Pinhead is only as old as WW1 but that is something discussed in one of the later movies.
@@parker469a true,but then again,this is not a "deep" movie!?
Concept of it is cool...
@@parker469a There is positive forces, but the box does not take you there or summon them. It was constructed solely for the purpose of opening a door to "hell" basically.
I definitely got the "Ross" reference 🤣
😂 i started yelling "pivot" at the exact same time.
I once knew a guy who had that box. I don't mean a replica. He owned one of the onscreen boxes. We had a bit of a fling while I was in the US. We kept in touch afterwards and he said that for my next birthday he'd come visit me in England and he alluded to him giving me that box as a gift as he knew how much I wanted it. And, yes it's true I wanted that box more than I wanted him.
He never turned up. I found out about a month later that he was killed in a car wreck the morning of the flight over here. I tried my hardest to find out more but the internet wasn't what it is now.
Just searching for news articles and opening a page took about 5 minutes. I've still no idea what happened to that box. Probably taken away in the car to be crushed.
The heaven part will be available when they release Heavenraiser.
There's lore that Frank was molesting Kirsty as a child and on. Thus why he says "come to daddy". And he wasn't going to kill her. He was going to keep her. It's proven even more in the second movie
The cenobites didn't say anything about a heaven part. They are demons to some, angels to others. Depends on how those who seek them out view them. Clive Barker liked to bring up bdsm subjects. Some folks like pain, and those folks would view the cenobites as angels. But only those who sought out the box would ever be in that camp.
"I do love a jigsaw." Wrong franchise.
The "heaven" aspect depends on who opens the box. Pinhead said it himself:
"Angels to some. Demons to others."
So people who love pain and eternal torture find it as heaven and everyone else they are demons stuck in hell??
@@israymervalentin-arias6313 Something like that. I am guessing that the "angel" people are in the extreme minority, though...
It's about pain and pleasure being indistinguishable.
Another interpatation I saw was they are "angels to some" by taking evil out of our world. Like good, take this evil out of our world.
@@israymervalentin-arias6313 The Hellraiser concept, but more loosely played out in the movie, isn't actually about simply pain and torture. It's about sensation, sensation so extreme that it's really neither pain nor pleasure. The movies, as they progressed, became more and more focused on just the pain and suffering aspect.
So really, it's good for people who are just looking for the next level in sensation. Someone who's done all the drugs they can do, screwed everything they can screw, and done all sorts of weird shit to their body, but at the end of it all still want something MORE.
Hellraiser has always made me, visually, incredibly, incredibly uncomfortable and that’s why it’s one of my favourite horror franchises. Ever. 💀⚰️
I tried watching hellbound on LSD... Tried
The ultimate in body-horror.
26:44 it literally went from a corpse vomiting maggots to an ad sprinkling cheese on a pizza. The transition was flawless. Kudos to the ad gods.
😆😆👍
When we seen that part we ordered a pizza, it made us hungry lol
“...That guy had it coming” after watching a character do terrible things for an hour and a half is one of my favorite understatements ever lol
The cenobites are one of the most interesting "villains" in horror movie history. They aren't good or evil, they just fulfill a contract.
Sadly, they turned Pinhead into a pun spewing idiot and completely removed everything that made him unique.
it is not hands that call us,
it is DESIREEEE !!!
The Cenobites are good people🤗
@@Chris_34 Dr.Chenard would disagree!?
@@leonefurlan137 I think you mean Dr *Channard.*
@Move_I_Got_This The Cenobites are a marginalised section of society and need our compassion and understanding.
Spread love not hate🥰
Actually, the "Heaven Part" of the puzzle box *is* out there. This puzzle box is the Lament Configuration. You're looking for the Elysium Configuration (but that's in the 4th movie).
Love seeing people experience Hellraiser for the first time, you never know what kind of reaction you're gonna get xD
If you're hoping for more explanation and expansion of this universe, "Hellraiser II: Hellbound" is a really good sequel that opens this world up much more.
Fav part in hell raiser 2 is the singing doctor who knew Opera
First 4 movies where the only ones worth watching; after that they really go to shit..
@@Flametasticeedits Yes! :)
The sequel has such sights to show you...
@@beerbaby.56724 Everything past 2 is kinda trash not gonna lie
Kirstie is one of my favorite of the 80s final girls, Ashley Laurence plays the innocent and tough sides very well. It's definitely worth checking out Hellraiser 2! I think it's a bit better than the first honestly
Kirstie rocks, and damn, is she beautiful.
There's only one person who can play PINHEAD PERFECTLY......
DOUGE BRADLEY
Douge is Doug's twin brother. True story.
Douge is dougs twin brother, he does the stunts
Hellraiser 2 is better, but being that she doesn't like hell related stuff, she won't like Hellbound.
hellraiser 2 has a scene that icks even me a gore hound out the matress scene
@callmecatalyst oh yes..its a LOT.ii love horror and gore but its just a LOT. fun fact the man was played by skinless frank in the first movie ;)
ESPECIALLY if you watch the unrated version. Yeah... that mattress scene is a bit brutal!
I gotta say, as despicable as Frank & Julia are, they truly do deserve each other lol
Pinhead is easily one of the most iconic movie monsters, and this is easily one of the most iconic Body Horror films
Yes, love this series, hope you guys watch Hellbound Hellraiser 2 🤘
Pinhead is the somewhat gory equivalent of Arnold Schwarzenegger - one liners straight from hell! "Pain has a face, allow me to show it to you." Love it.
Excuse me?
@@Flametasticeedits Get down!
@@Flametasticeedits Your arrogance blinds you, Master Schwarzenegger.
@@slimbrady6691 With a British accent. 'Get down.'
The book Hellbound Heart better demonstrates the fine line between pleasure and pain that Frank is seeking. It's hard to visually demonstrate. The booknis super short, and the 2nd movie isn't based on anything. For me, the 2nd is the only good sequel. Expands the world and characters.
Yeah the book is great
the book is so insanely entertaining! huge fun
I like 2 as well, and the introduction of this cosmic being Leviathan. Personally I also like the 3rd movie (though I agree it couldv'e been made better), going into the creation of the puzzle box and the ending with the descendant creating a giant version to trap Pinhead. Anything beyond that is absolutely crap.
@@xen0bia the descendent one is the 4th one in space.. the 3rd had jadzia dax in
Yeah the 1st and 2nd Hellraiser are the only good ones, the rest are trash
The Heaven part depends on you, it depends on your point of view. Hell can be Heaven for some people. By the way you should definitely watch part 2. It's one of those rare cases where the sequel is just as good or even better than the first part. And it continues the story with the same characters. Definitely react to part 2.
I concur. I'd actually say Hellbound is better.
@callmecatalyst I like the first one better because it's about Julia and Frank which it's to me the most interesting part. But yes, the second part is awesome too.
I like the second one because pinhead says I'll be back
Idk anyone that would think this hell is heaven. I understand the point and love Hellraiser, but nah. And yes Hellbound is better
@@el34glo59 that's because you're thinking in duality. Good and evil, pain and pleasure, Heaven and Hell. But the Cenobites are explorers from the further regions of experience, they offer an experience beyond the limits of the human experience, something fo far away from our capability of experience that oposites become one and indivisible, and something so extreme that the person is changed forever. None of us could even imagine such extreme.
If you want another Clive Barker movie. Watch Nightbreed. Preferably the directors cut. Brilliant film. Super underrated, an absolute cult classic.
The Uncut Version
Not the Cabal cut! I was a fan of Nightbreed but that put stuff in that really needed to be cut out cause it drags on.
The original movie is much better.
I have never thought it was all that good. IMO the only good thing about it is Cronenberg in an acting role as Decker. Decker was a great character
@@MirrorDomains not the Cabal cut necessarily. The blu ray directors cut only added about 10 minutes and restored the original ending. I much prefer it.
As Doctor Who once said; "Hell is just Heaven for bad guys"
Which incarnation of the Doctor said that
@@solomonkane6442 Twelve
@@clemfandango8182 Peter Capaldi
Andrew Robinson later went on to play Garak on Star Trek: Deep Space 9. "A simple tailor, nothing more"🤔 (and maybe also an exiled spymaster assassin - allegedly). Guy was awesome from start to finish, arguably the best character on the show. Even if the broader audience isn't familiar with him, he's a legend to DS9 fans.
He was also Scorpio in DIRTY HARRY.
@@karlydoc The real ref! 👍
One interesting thing about the 'heaven' part is that when Kirsty toyed with the box it did genuinely give her what she wanted (aside from Chatterer's hand all up in her mouth, unfortunate side-effect). Though it seems bad that she summoned the cenobites, they were her way of stopping Frank. And when that was done, the box allowed her to banish them back to Hell, rather than forcing her to go with them. The sequels changed a lot about how it worked, but I think originally the box was meant to be like Silent Hill; as long as you aren't completely deranged, it poses no real danger.
Well no cause these are based on books, it only protects a true innocent. She learns how to use the box to her advantage in the comics too.
For a film made in the 80's the practical effects are amazing and akin to maybe The Thing.
"Needle face" lol. That's the sort of thing my mum would say🤣
Appreciate the hail Mary's after hereditary even tho I'm not really religious just more comfortable afterwards and great channel.
The original Clive Barker story was called “The Hellbound Heart,” but the producers decided they should give the movie a new title. Barker asked the cast and crew for ideas, and an older lady suggested “What a Woman Will Do for a Good F**k.”
The Cenobite origin story comes in _'Hellraiser IV: Bloodline'_
Every movie after IV was, as Mr. Movies said, direct-to-video; they had other horror movies, but to save money they slapped a _"Hellraiser"_ title on it, threw in *Pinhead* & released it…
One, and I do mean *_ONE_* movie in the franchise has a tenuous link to the first four, in that we see the brief return of the Kirsty character (it's _'Hellraiser VI: Hellseeker'_ btw)…
Also, only the first 8 movies are considered part of the original canon, because Doug Bradley is *Pinhead* in all of them; _'Hellraiser: Revelations'_ (the 9th movie) and _'Hellraiser: Judgement'_ (the 10th movie) are *_not_* part of the original canon as both each have different actors playing *Pinhead.*
There's a reboot _'Hellraiser'_ coming out next year, in 2022, with actress Jamie Clayton as *Pinhead!*
Ashley Laurence looks like Nancy from a Nightmare on Elm Street ?
I can't remember the actresses name though 🤔
@@solomonkane6442 You're thinking of Heather Langenkamp.
I need to google this, though I don't know how I feel with a female needle-face. 🤔
There's certain characters that just wouldn't be the same as women.
@@KandiStomper I think it would be interesting to have a female needle face
Let's see what happens with it
@@KandiStomper if you Google "Jamie Clayton as Pinhead" and look a img's, you'll get the low-down… If you look up info about Jamie herself, I think you'll understand why they chose her. 👍🏻
Definitely gotta watch part 2. It shows Pinhead’s origin, has much better practical effects and ties in directly with this one. I won’t say anything else but I think you’d like that one more
The "heaven" part is the same thing as the "hell" part, it's a matter of perception.
"Demons to some, angels to others."
And the first movie covers the novella, The Hellbound Heart. The second movie uses characters from the book, but that's about it.
@Sean H Right, it wasn't until it was too late that Frank realized the Cenobites see no difference between the extremes of pleasure and pain.
"Who drinks brandy when they are sick?" "Should we start doing that?
Yes, because she seems like a good role model to learn new habits from. ;)
Drinking Alcohol has been medicinal for litterally thousands of years. It does in fact help with sickness,as it is a blood thinner,a natural disinfectant,and makes you sleep.
Hot toddy was a cure all for most cols and/or flu. Shot of rum or whiskey, sweetened with honey, added to hot water with a squeeze of lemon if your throat was acting up. Sounds weird, but it does the job of cough syrup and decongestants, with the benefits of helping you to drift off to sleep. Not a drink for partying. Most of my generation (40s) grew up with them if you were sick. Oh... and Vicks vapor rub.
Pinhead is still my fave cenobyte.
Have you guys checked out Clive Barker ' s Nightbreed? So much great stuff packed into that one movie.
@@AndieO I've actually had that before when I had a sore throat back when I was a kid.
Frank had gone as far as he could go by experiencing every pleasure imaginable on Earth which is why he sought out the box and as you see the lines between Pleasure and Pain are... Tricky.
As for Julia and Frank? Julia met and was going to marry Larry however with Frank he Unleashed a level of passion that she didn't even realize she had and basically once that cat was out of the bag she was never able to be the same again with Larry.
Tl/dr: Larry was the safe choice while Frank was the one who lit her fire.
The first 4 are the only ones that made it to theater and part 4 actually gives a conclusive ending to the franchise so don't go past 4. Arguments can be made that you can just watch part 1 and part 2 since they are directly tied to one another but ultimately it's up to you period and Doug Bradley who plays the lead cenobite is a damn good actor
Centipedes, Cenophiles, you'll get it right, my favorite is the female Cenobite, she's just had a creepy sinister look, i didn't like the way she looked in the sequel though.
The original actress, Clive Barker's cousin, is apparently a drama teacher now. She legitimately HATES the film, and is ashamed of it. I don't know if she is overtly religious, though Clive said he had a devoutly religious side to his family, which sparked his interest in heaven and hell, pleasure and pain. It may have been a family favour, as many of the British cast were Clive's mates from his college/uni days...
Man, I hated these movies so much as a kid because My older brother used think it was funny to hold me down on the couch and force me to watch them. I legit used to have night terrors of the cenobites I had to go to counseling for, it was bad and my brother thought it was funny. I was like 7 or 8 years old and I couldn't get it out of my head.
Not sure how you expect a movie called HELLLLLraiser also has to have a Heaven side open up..? This movie was the first of it's kind, therefore iconic. I think you don't appreciate it for what it is because you're oversaturated now with gory, dumb horrorflicks.
Hell is heaven to some, Heaven is Hell to others.. its all about subjective views.. The Cenobites are amoral, they are not good or evil (until after 3) so many reactors when they say Hell think literal Hell
Fun fact, Clive Barker didn't give him the Pinhead nickname, the fans did. And Clive Barker hates it. He didn't want the Cenobites to have names, he wanted them to be a hive mind. Finishing each others sentences etc.
Om my God! Yes yes and yes. More Hellraiser please and thank you. Great request. Gotta become a patreon. Me and Old Piny go way back.✌
Seriously though, Clive barker is a master of horror. Great reaction. The score was done by Chris Young, a bang for your buck Composer. Very talented.
"How many Hail Mary's am I going to have to do?" All of them Just ALL of them.
Lord of Illusion is another Barker written and directed project based off his novel "The Last Illusion". In the beginning this was a novel by Clive Barker titled Hellbound Heart but he makes it into a movie. This movie introduced a first-time actor and Clive's college friend Doug Bradley to portray the menacing Pinhead, Doug never had done any tv or film before this as he held the Pinhead role for 8 consecutive Hellraiser films. This is an international film as this was filmed in England and most cast and all crew are English.
"The Last Illusion" is the basis for the movie "Lord of Illusions".
"Hellraiser" is based on the novella "The Hellbound Heart".
Absolutely the most epic horror movie to hit the screen. "We will know your flesh." Nightmares are made of this.
check out the Evil Dead, 1981. Another classic. They don't make them like that anymore
Second one is even better. But, you can stop after that one.
That's like saying you can stop after Halloween II. In for a penny in for a pound. The rest of the series are not good at all but they would make for good reactions.
Idk for me, I feel hell on earth has its bit of charm and some memorable moments to make it worthwhile
Though I will agree on most of the others except inferno just because it was able to explore the sexual aspect to the cenobites more though not much
The other Cenobites that come with Pinhead...
The one that appeared first is *Chatter*
The female Cenobite is *Voice box*
The Fat one with Kewl looking round sun glasses is *Butterball*
The Female Cenobite is Female Cenobite. Chatter is The Chatterer or even just "Chattering" Cenobite. Hell, Pinhead is Lead Cenobite. They weren't even originally named save for credit listing purposes...
Her: i hate movies about hell and demons!
Me- remembering the movies that are still coming!
Me- in Pinhead's voice: "We Have Such Sight's to Show You!!!" 💀
“We have such sights to show you.”
Love it, love it, love it.👍🤘🏻🔥
I love Clair Higgins who plays the stepmother. This movie scared me so much but I watched it when I was nine lol
I think the real horror were the human choices and the monsters became iconic
Oh wow you're watching Hellraiser? This is gonna be good
She didn't like it!
Love how you dance every time he says,”Hammer Time”
"Where is the heaven part of this"
"Demons to some, angels to others"
Cenobites are a Neutral Force in the universe. Some people are very happy to be taken to their realm & may even become enforces of the realm like Pinhead. Some overestimate their fortitude and it turns out to be hell for them. It's what makes Cenobites interesting; they are a middle ground independent of Heaven / Hell God/Devil Dichotomy. At least until Clive Barker sought the quest for more money and decided to dumb down the lore.
People who open the box are looking for the ultimate S&M experience. Some just ain't cut out for it like Frank, my man really went to pieces.
Absolutely right, cenobites are neither good or evil. Clive Barker didn't have anything to do with the later sequels past 4, no? I think he wrote the second one, which might be why it's the last decent Hellraiser movie. Part 3's still fun at least though.
Unfortunately, it's difficult to convey absolute indivisible pain and pleasure on screen to a viewer. You kinda already have to understand the context prior. And, ofc, the sequels just made Cenobite literal agents of Hell, instead of the neutral force
This is coming from someone who've only seen the first movie. I always thought it was something inside of the person. The whole trope of being pure allowed you to solve the box correctly to experience Heaven. And of course the opposite.
Thank you for clearing that up. I like that the Cenobites are neutral. Only there to play their roll in the grand scheme. I should check out the rest of the movies sometime.
I knew the Mrs. would have a pretty visceral reaction to this movie. It's definitely not for the squeamish. However, it's definitely one of the more memorable horror movies of the 80's and Pinhead is such an awesome character. Doug Bradley is such a cool guy to meet at a horror convention if you ever get the chance. Same with Ashley Laurence.
I named my channel after the best line in this movie!
Candyman is another great clive barker horror movie
They are both the demons and the angels. The short story goes into more detail and explain more clearly that what they do is bring you to a sensational state beyond what is physically possible, hightening both pain and pleasure to the point where you can no longer tell one from the other. Frank's problem was that his kinky stuff wasn't doing it for him anymore, he had to always escalate to feel the same thrill, but he found himself with no way to go higher, so he made the deal and opened the box, but realized too late that he had gotten way more then he bargined for.
Centipede lol. Clive Barker famously hated the Pinhead name. The chatterer was my favorite Cenobite too. Hellraiser 4 is my favorite, gives some background on Pinhead, and the space station looks awesome!
I have the Chatterer Funko
"You're so analytical! Sometimes you just have to let art... flow... over you." Nick (William Hurt) in "The Big Chill"
Btw, Jesus' middle initial H. is his father's name like in the prayer, "Our father who art in Heaven, Howard be thy name".
Favorite Cenobite is probably Deep Throat/the one played by the female actress they're just mesmerizing
16:10 "Yeah you were a puddle 2 days ago." Haha Great description Mrs M!
Great reaction. This is a amazing horror movie. I think you should watch the second one next, maybe the third, and then leave it after that.
The Heaven part you ask about is subjective, if you're us, this is horrifying terror, to Adolph Hitler these are just party guys! This movie was about what a woman will do for hot sex, Not demons, heaven or hell. Or even Pinhead. It's about Frank and Julia. My favorite is Grace Kirby as the female, she only was in this movie. Another actress plays it in part 2 not as well. Part 3 onward can skip, Only thing good about part 3 is it's basically a slapstick comedy with Pinhead.
The real monsters are Frank and Julia. They murdered for their own benefit. The Cynobites are just demons serving Hell doing what they do with no real feelings one way or the other. The evil motives are what make the villains.
Know how you can tell this is an authentic first time viewing? She called them centipedes 😂
"PIVOT!" I did that at work today when moving shelving around a corner and all I got were blank faces.
Loving the regular dose of horror ya''ll are doing.
"I like a girl in sweatpants" This guy knows what's up.
Hellraiser was pretty shocking when it was new, what with the blending of horror and S&M. These days you can see scarier stuff on the internet anytime you want
I’ve come across S&M scenes almost as brutal as the movie, though not as scary lol
I met the guy that played pinhead , he was so nice ! and when they wrapped on the film nobody was talking to him at the wrap party as he was in makeup before everyone and after every one else so no one actually saw him out of make up it took that long to put on the pin head coenobite prosthetics !
"I do love a Jigsaw."
Did you guys see Saw?
"I like a girl in sweatpants"
"That's right"
🤣🤣
My grandma would always have a brandy or a whiskey when she was ill, “medicinal purposes” was her reasoning, helped cut through the sickness, lol.
A lot of cough syrup use to have alcohol, so it makes sense it would help.
It’s based on a horror story and filmed in the uk but dubbed to sound American lol
The actor who played the dad was also the Scorpio killer in the Dirty Harry film
Larry was played by Andrew Robinson who played the villain in the original Dirty Harry
Chatterer has always been a fan favorite. As for my favorite while the Chatterer is cool, for me it's got to be the Hell Priest, aka the lead Cenobite, or Pinhead as he was mistakingly called. It was never intended for him to be called Pinhead, it just sort of came about. I would watch the first four at least. The rest after the 4th have verying stories. I enjoyed them all but some were not actually meant to be part of the Hellraiser verse, but rather their own movies. They eventually got wrote in as Hellraiser sequals.
I mean... Look at him. Hell Priest is cool, but I just have Pinhead engraved in my head
Ross Gellar pivot pivot pivot c'mon people that's funny😂
Big gulps huh? lmao always in for a Dumb and Dumber reference
Introducing the new horror icon...
NEEDLEFACE!
I saw this film as a kid and afterwards I threw my Rubik's Cube away.
Not demons....Well, they made them into demons later in the series. Much much more interesting before they made that change. Just extra dimensional beings!
Thanks, Uber Geek. I've wanted them to watch this for quite some time now.
“The Exorcist is nothing but a glorified cartoon” - Doug Bradley 🤘🔥
Just a guy who knew where his bread was buttered.
What? No BOOBIES??? j/k
Great reaction as always. I love how the wife seems so unaffected by things that traumatized me as a child. She is so chill LOL.
We definitely need to see the next 3 movies too... :D
The Creepy Homeless Guy also appears in a quick scene in Twin Peaks TV series.
I'm Italian.. I watch your video reaction, I wanted to thank you for these beautiful reactions...always keep it up!!!
Thank you so much for watching them! Love having you here hanging out with us!
Your reaction is brilliant, hellraiser is a classic. I watched this when I was 6, that's right 6! Been a major fan of thr first two films all these years, 32 years later.
The theme for heaven an hell is all based on the S&M/bondage theme etc, the pleasure an pain aspect.
Thanks for reviewing this movie, really enjoyed
The theme for hell *,heaven in this universe is still the biblical kind.
13:33 Julia wants to jump Frank's bones in the most literal sense.
Great reaction guys awesome as usual.....U guys should react to Misery & Dolores Claiborne both based on Stephen King novels & with the amazing Kathy Bates would love to see ur reactions to both movies.
The novelette this is adapted from The Hellbound Heart, is excellent, and short. Maybe 80 pages. If you really want more of Frank's character.
Hellraiser 2-10 part ??? ))
When she said needleface she's thinking of stan helsing.
Such a beautiful and wholesome love story.
Great editing on this reaction!
I'd say watch 2 and 3, too. The others don't even matter lol