How to make 3D look 2D? Don't overthink it!
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that ending line is so real
widescreen tvs that curve at a 360 degree angle: 💀
@@OmniSyncstill 2d
@@xxxautito9877 god damn it
@@OmniSyncjust a 2d image displayed and stretched onto screen
Magic
"3D art is just a way of creating 2D images" goes hard,, screens will be 2D no matter what, i love this quote
Screens will be 2D no matter what, except when they aren't (see Nintendo 3DS)
@@oktayyildirim2911I think that’s still technically 2D. The screen doesn’t have 3 dimensions, it just looks like it is. The screen is showing you two 2D images which your brain interprets it as 3D
@@HiHi-oc3gh Bro, 3D displays "only looking" like they're 3D is their entire point.
@@oktayyildirim2911 I know. I’m just saying it still technically counts as 2d.
@@HiHi-oc3gh No offense, but that's just semantics. Yes, the frame shown to each eye is a 2D image, but those images must be constructed from a 3D space in order to not confuse your brain, and in the end, the viewer perceives the image as 3D.
For all my blenderers out there, White emission shader with grease pencil line art modifier.
Wait… you watch doodley too?!
@@Brimationsor they do it themselves
Backgrounds still look too flat with just 2 colors, what are the solutions?
thank u 😭🙏
I'm boutta blend all over my computer now
Man, I forget how beautiful Arcane looks sometimes
Arcane is an absolute TREASURE of animation
I often think about the scrapped sequel to Treasure Planet that was in pre-production but got cancelled, that would look so cool in the Arcane art style if they made it now
They wasted that talent on league of legends of all things.
@@VEE0034nah cuz ever just be like “wow (character/literally anything ab arcane) is so cool i love it so much” and than it hits u that u just supported a league of legends related project
@@leaf1673worst part is that you know these characters ain't gonna die.
Love the acknowledgement that something doesn't have to be super complex or confusing to be good. Basic shapes, simple tactics, and well thought out art direction goes a long way in creating quality stuff. Very nice c:
Basically, "work smarter, not harder".
what the hell is that profile picture dawg
@@katabooz Is a round Latias, obviously. o:
@@Just_a_commenter good thing i like inflation or this would be really weird
@@katabooz Technically it's the 4 letter V word, but if you like the alternative then that's cool too!
"3D Doodley doesnt exist, he cant hurt you"
3D Doodley:
he always did
@@alxedu125”Doodley is 3D?”
“Always has been.”
Oh of course he's here too
@@wolfieolfiebeat me to it
What's up bro ✌
I'm glad you showed Guilty Gear Strive, because I always knew this as "Arc System artstyle", they've been puting out "2d" games that are actually 3d for a while now
Me too! My only complaint is that it isn't a good example of using "simple" techniques and tools since the character models are incredibly complex in how they animate in order to look like they were hand-drawn animation.
I do wish he showed Xrd or FighterZ instead though, since those games go much harder into the "fake 2D" look while Strive doesn't go as hard into it.
@@PlayerZeroStartMaybe that was the point? Showing off subtle little moments that aren’t as obvious? Because they trick your brain into the “2D mode” just as well. You don’t “need” to go as hard into the fake-2D effect to get the same result, I think was the point.
whenever i show people ggst and tell them its 3D they dont believe me because its so well done it looks like 2D anime drawings
WOOOOOO BUCKET
"Don't overthink it" - the math teacher after explaining the most complicated equation in man kind
Lmao
I feel like that can still apply to math when you have to choose between a complex equation or a simpler one that does the same thing for a close enough result.
Just want to mention that the short clip from Promare you used is one of my favourite clips of animation of all time, it goes so fucking cold
that shot goes so unbelievably hard
Paired with the awesome music too. That’s why I love Promare so much!
Promare is amazing.
Promare is amazing. I love how lighthearted and easy to digest it is
Eye candy ❤
Promare
"And Arcane has a really simple trick to make their characters look like they were painted by hand!"
"We Paint 😊"
I've learned that with blender the last couple weeks in class, you can make things look really nice without going crazy with the polygons. Keeping it simple makes it easier to edit later also 😂
Banban is an excellent example of it. Wasting entire SM64 polygons count on 1 square and 2 cyllinders with no textures is really cringe. That's the example of why you shouldn't allow money grabbers into game industry - they'll give no f about quality, but will make everything to make more money
thats cuz blender has an autosmooth option turned on by default. try importing that mesh to zbrush or maya and you will see something comepletely different half the time.
I think the realisation that 3D art always produces a 2D result is a real "a-ha" moment for a lot of artists. It opens up a whole new world, where breaking the rules of the 3D environment doesn't matter anymore because the only thing that matters is how it looks from the camera's point of view.
Logic like that was essential in the days when they didn't have the same CPU space we have now. Don't need a whole 3D environment when you can use a 2d skybox and well placed collision instead (Resident Evil)
We need more Promare enjoyers out there, one of the best of Trigger's lineup
Awful writing, amazing animation.
@@tvsonicserbia5140isn’t trigger always awful writing and amazing animation?
@@saffronnie3969 Absolutely not, Kazuki Nakashima is one of the best writers working in anime. It's loud and brash but structurally very sound. Promare blows Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill out of the water with animation because it's a movie, but they have more memorable characters, themes and drama.
@@tvsonicserbia5140 I agree there. Promare is very good. I always call it "Fire force done right" XD But in general, the Studio Trigger animes I have seen have sloppy writing, obvious plot twists, but great animation! And Little Witch Academia is one of my fave animes! So!
im heartbroken that i never got to see promare in theaters.it's a must watch for ppl who watch anime for the animation. And this is coming from someone who honestly has a hard time getting into other trigger series bc of the writing... I must've watched Promare at least five times now
There is also the Mr. Game & Watch approach of literally flattening the 3D model until it's basically 2D. I'm surprised that hasn't been used more. Have a "2D" animation with nearly impossible camera angles and sweeping shot without breaking the illusion.
I wish more things had the “project outline” ability. I was making a 2D-styled VRChat avatar and the method of expanding and inverting the mesh to create the outline effect was a pretty big performance loss for the avatar. Thankfully it’s not game-crashing, but still. My poor little laptop has a harder time using that avatar because of it :(
It is possible to achieve this via shader math and im certain thats rather how its done in games, duplicating the meshes is something you can afford only in low poly applications. If youre curious about it, google glsl outline shader.
I just realised someone could make something so resource intensive for the meta quest specifically that it crashes those devices only LMAO
in blender the line-art grease pencil modifier (pretty much project outline) doesn't run much faster :(
@@CandiedCWhen uploading an avatar for the quest if it has too many bones or polygons it just won’t let you upload it at all. Of course people have gotten around this but it’s not easy lol
3D artists search way to make 3D look like 2D
3D artists search way to make 2D look like 3D
The tables have turned
*2D
People being surprised this character is 3D is surprising to me since it's so evident in the movement and interaction/overlap. Not at all implying anything negative, it's just what's visible given the artistic choice 😊
I love that you mentioned Okami. That game goes an amazing job replicating old Japanese artwork via this style
I have been playing Okami a lot lately. It’s so nostalgic to me.
I wanna play that game
But I heard that it's an ok zelda clone
it was an unpopular opinion
I will still play it but zelda games are kinda hard to perfectly replicate them
I get insane amount of joy from opening worlds with items and abilities
mini shoot adventures managed to replicate that joy pretty well while still being original
I will still play okami but an ok zelda game might as will as be a boring zelda game
@@AhmedMalaki it’s not that much like Zelda.
Arcane's art style is truly a work of art, simple yet beautiful in its execution. It's amazing how a few basic shapes can create such stunning visuals.
Wowie zowie
A staple of great art.
Also havent i seen your before chicken?
bot
That loop is perfect. Thank you.
Ah yes 3Doodley
Him mentioning jet set radio feels like a dream
same, after all its the first game to ever introduce cartoony types of 3d models.
Yeah lol.@@The16-Bitdude
I really think so many people when they try to jump from 2D to 3D forget that you're still just making pictures
So glad you mentioned Arcane and it’s brilliant usage of hand painted textures! ❤
brisket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As Bob from Roblox Slap Battles, i can officially say that the cube he showed was in fact the infamous *cube of death*
Guilty gear strive mentioned i can die happy now
Brisket
@@Ren_Amamiya_headspaceBrisket!!!!
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@@Ren_Amamiya_headspace YU NARUMUKI PERSONA 4 ARENA ULTIMAX!
@@TheRealKotone-Shiomi THE UNIVERSES ARE COLLIDING
I'v argue that the sketch outlines method you use is more true to what you see in 2d art since in JSR, removing the outine just gives you the character minus the outline, whereas if you were to do that with drawn art the character looks weird and disproportionate, since the outline goes inward.
Yeah I agree! The inverted hull method is good for games as it's very efficient, but I would only use it for very thin lines anywhere else. The downside of the sketch outline is that it's quite power hungry.
something I always think about is when arc sys came out and basically tell people how to achieve wizardry and its still impressing people. I love magic
From the way Doodley moved I’m surprised people didn’t realize he was 3d sooner
YAAS THE PROMARE CLIP!!!!
Gosh I love that sequence soo much!! Thanks so much for putting a spotlight on some of Trigger’s stunning work!!
we just saw how the cube of death was made
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT THAT
@@MythicalBrew hello fellow slap battles player
JET SET RADIOOOO
my fav of all time!
BRIDGET!
BRIDGET!
BRISKET
BRIDGET!!!
She's BALLIN
BUDGET!!
That last line is great. Don't overthink it. KISS principle is a mandate for nearly everything.
If you use blender, there's a simply node setup that does the same effect. I've found it by myself and I can't model or animate to save my life
Guilty gear strive doesnt "lower its frame rate". What the developers did actually takes a lot more work than that. They hand-craft each and every frame of animation, rather than using keyframes and motion tweens like other 3d animation studios. This lets it look more like 2d animation and also introduces little squash-and-stretch imperfections (aka the characters look off-model often) that further the 2d look
I'm aware. I simplify descriptions as my videos aren't intended for other animators. You need to speak in layman's language as animating on 2s and 3s doesn't make sense to a majority of people, but a majority understand framerates.
When you don’t put in shadows, it just looks flat
That’s the point
Same engines call that outline effect “highlight” just in case anyone struggled to find it
"inverted hull" is also called front face culling.
The more you know.
The ending opened my eyes Tyty
Omg promare, my Favorite film
BRIDGET!!!!!!!!
For all my Unity-ers put there, Poi Toon has a material setting for outlines that basically does this but to your materials instead of the actual model. You can use a map on it to only have certain things outline too. Pretty cool for style
honestly the best style of video ive seen
THAT SMOOTH ENDING TRANSITION THOUGH
this is cool stuff how much does the animation software cost?
I would start with Blender, which is free and can do pretty much everything this video mentions! The program mentioned here, Maya, costs $300/yr for Maya Indie.
Cell shading is such an underrated art style I find.
Ultimate spider man is have the best outlines on whole game history
BRISKET :333
Basketball ❤❤❤
Yasss we love our girly pop
guilty gear was last expected thing in this video
Seeing Promare in the example...brings a smile to my face.
oh shi, thats me, and thanks for the explanation, i might get creative on smth with that
Brisket appearance 🤩
Bucket Guilty Gear
Buffy
Briget
Bucket!
Perfect video. I’m a big fan of your animations
Your confidence is contagious.
That's the hope!
CUBE OF DEATH SB REFERENCE???!!
IS THAT THE CUBE OF DEATH FROM SLAP BATTLES?
I was looking for this comment
That cube looks like the cube of death
THE CUBE OF DEATH?
Does doodley like Noodles?
As in the food or the Noodle, the TH-camr.
Cel-Shaded CGI rocks! Though sometimes the style doesn’t end up working out in the end. For example, Shantae was supposed to go 3D on the GameCube, but the cel-shading on her gave her what the devs refer to as “Flintstone Face”.
I always love seeing 3d used to make 2d animation. Cuz your brain looks at it and thinks wow someone drew that, but that's not always the case. And I especially love when a 2d animated project uses 3d for certain effects that you can't necessarily do easily in 2d!
Guilty Gear shown, you're now even more based
Brisket 💜
Male
god the Arcane art style is so gorgeous i hope all the staff are getting paid so well
Now I can’t unsee the doodley without shader 😭😭😭
I got hype over jet set radio for no reason lmao but good video very informal
I read somewhere that most modern anime is made this way, with exceptions of course, and when you see scenes that go from 2d to 3D they are just switching shaders. Idk how true it is, but sounds legit.
I wouldn't say most. A handful are a mix of 2D and 3D (Dorohedoro, Beastars, etc. which might be what you're describing) and many rotoscope 3D models for more complex shots, but it's still a largely 2D animated industry.
FINALLY. SOMEONE ELSE WHO KNOWS OKAMI HD.
THE TOWN INSIDE ME‼️‼️
when I make materials in Blender, I basically use the technique of "bash random nodes together until it looks cool"
You didn't fool me for a second. I knew it was 3d the whole time. Animators can tell these things apart very easily
Exactly right, reminds me of a saying, when you hear galloping, think horses, not zebras, the simplest idea is usually the right one
The Invert outline effect is also seen on the Rb battles swords and the battle beam fun fact
Ain’t no way I’m just finding u out after I failed my 3D Maya classes. I honestly lost passion in learning 3D bc of how terrible my professor is but I’m too stubborn about changing my focus yet so I’m retaking the class. You post pretty interesting stuffs and I think I’ll be more engaged with Maya this way :D
I cant (and never will) wrap my head around 3D outlines
Idk how i can but i can definitely tell that Doodley is 3D
I'm not even interested in 3D but I watch the videos just because I think his character is cute
OMG FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS OKAMI, IM SO HAPPY
honestly okami is easily one my most favorite games of its genre hands down.
same! love your pfp, splatoon is great
When Ōkami was mentioned it felt like a jumpscare straight out of my childhood.
I always liked when people make 3D models that look like 2D sprites, but for some reason a lot of times they just don't work, like I remember one video about making a 3D character look like a 2D anime character, but they still looked 3D after, even though in the video they show a clip from a game studio that has 3D characters that are indistinguishable from 2D anime
I always feel creep out that he moves sooooo SMOOTHLY
I’m a 2d artist but love 3d artists n art bc of the creativity and versatility, rock on :D
"Don't overthink it"
My dumbass: *WHOS GONNA STOP ME*
Bro, you really deserve so many more subscribers your animations are perfect
For Guilty Gear it's not just the lower framerate. They make each frame by hand instead of letting the engine interpolate it. Also the use of "smear models" and the changing proportions for different attacks are important too.
Doodley: 3d art is just a way of creating 2d images. Me: 🤯
This Ace Attorney remix is sick.
A fellow artist named Doodley? Aaayyy, what up!? This is really cool
yoo that 3D cube looks like the dead cube in slap battles
frfr
👍😎😎
Animation is so cool and beautiful
“Yeah, i am.”
*bends face*
I was thinking of how to make a dream block from Celeste in Minecraft and the inverting the geometry thing is literally one of the ideas of how I planned to pull it off.
When I started youtube did not exist with these nice explainations, you just had to figure it out unless you were lucky to get ahold of the sourcecode from an demoscene demo
Plot Twist: Doodley was always 2D, he’s just trapped in the 3D world, & is too thin for us to see
I like this trend of YT Short makers seamlessly looping their shorts
The second I saw him move his arm forward I was so surprised :0
Well I overthink and I tried my best not to overthink yet I still do.
Great tutorial!!