As an owner of both, I agree with your assessment. Much better video, slightly clearer audio, better in low light on the 4K over the original. Thanks for the video!
Awesome Comparison, thank you! :) Do you know if the 4K uses more megapixel on 1080 mode, or is it the same? Like, if you shoot with both on 1080 in the first place, is the 4k still sharper like in this example?
Thanks. Please more tests for different settings. My goal is Zoom Q2N-4K for live recording of drums and percussion. I hope i can use all kind of GoPro hardware to attach it to stands etc.. In the studio i think of using high quality microphones and a mixer and make a ready to go video at once using the line/stereo-input of the Zoom Q2N-4K . Normally i have to do a lot of editing and mixing in a DAW and edit the high quality studio audio in the video of a normal digital camera. Of course carefull mixing gives best sound quality but ...have some mixer presets for quick drumlesson video´s will give probably better audio than just the Zoom Q2N-4K stereo mic (overheads, snare and kick and play along and perhaps even more quality mics)
I share your observation. It's the shadows that appear cleaner but at the expense of dynamic range. The highlights are blown out on the Q2n. Overall, there are ways to clean up the noise in the post. The highlights, and overall resolution are improved but the noise suppression can be improved. I should test it in the other modes to see if they all share the same noise issues in similar lighting situations
I also thought that from these comparisons. I saw on another review that the old Q2n stops down to f2 whereas the newer Q2n4k only goes to f2.8 (might have been 2.3).
Thanks for the comparative! Just One question do you consider audio IN from both cameras to be identical? The mic from 4k sounds to have a better low end and a bit clear to me. In my case i am looking for the audio in!
Thanks for the video. I was hoping someone would do a comparison between the two. I have the older Q2N and considered going to the 4K version. But they omitted something from the new version I really need. The only scene setting that gives me decent video, in the place I use it most is the "Concert Hall" setting. On the 4K version they did away with that setting. So I doubt the new version would really work for me.
The names of the presets are similar yet have very looks side by side since the Q2n4K preserves highlights better. I put it in the back of an auditorium and was able to record in the high contrast situation without blowing out the stage and kept the shadow detail in the audience. It's definitely something different that need more experimentation.
Thanks so much for this! Oh gosh, everyone here seems so convinced by the 4k yet I'm still wondering if the price difference is worth it... I'm clueless with jargon, so could you please tell me if you used only the camera's own mic for this, or did you plug it into a desk? We record church services weekly to produce dvds, would you recommend any one of these as an upgrade from the Sony SR40? Can you record for longer than an hour in any one of these? I'm sorry about all these questions but I could REALLY use the help! Thank you very much!
I used the camera's built in mic and not plugged into anything else. You should plug it into a desk if you are recording at a distance and want clean sermons. You can plug USB power into it and record for longer than an hour with a 256GB memory card no problem.
What is the Actual color of the drum kit? TheQ2N give it the appearance of Silver. The 4K shows gold. Which is it. That will say alot about the cameras. Thanks
The actual color is silver, that being said, the color of the lights were not white. Kind of like the warmer tones of light can make a white piece of paper look warm white, the reflectivity of silver tends to be tint. The Q2N is doing a hard white balance, identifying the paper as white and making it look whiter than it does in person where the Q2N4K is making the sheet music on the drummer's music stand look like colored lights are shining on it. Also you can see more detail on the music stand where the Q2N looks more overblown. Thanks for the question!
The 4K model shows colors a little bit more accurately since the lighting was not really blue but a magenta hue. 4K does crush the blacks a little more in the dark for sure.
Unfortunately there's a fisheye effect with these cameras at the edges of the shot... more pronounced in some shots than others, but even here you can still see it.
Wld you happen to know how do I upload videos from my Q2N-4K to my Chromebook? I am able to put it on the Chrome, but after that it is as if it isn't even there when I try to upload. Do you have any suggestions as to how I should go about it. Thanks
Be extremely careful that the Q2n 4K camera does not tip over when attached to a tri pod, the housing that holds the tripod is not strong. That's exactly what happened to mine, 5 month old camera , now useless. Very disappointed that Zoom would not make this right and cover this under warranty.
hello sir.. can u teach me.. how to get nice video and sound when artist do performence.. im using q2n 4k .. but when i 1st time use it.. my video so lag.. but the audio superb.. so i dont know how to setting.. can u help me sir.. much thank you
@@phenixreturns I would definitely consider using some sort of lighting kit instead of natural lighting to have predictable results. Natural lighting while the sun is going down is not a good situation but I would not try that with either camera. Check out some led light kits on Amazon.
@@westsiderecordingstudio4086 hi zoom q3hd in action in the afternoon , it does not work well with the sun going down in a bedroom even if there is a light or 2 th-cam.com/video/OJshQ0-_C4E/w-d-xo.html
@@westsiderecordingstudio4086 hi, look at that: q3H by ZOOM but when the sun goes down the image is horrible in my bedroom even if i add a 2 lights, do you know if a go pro is good to record guitars-music ? vs a Zoom Q2N-Q2n 4k or must i stay with ZOOM? th-cam.com/video/NoXtTqd1ork/w-d-xo.html
Be extremely careful that this camera does not tip over when attached to a tri pod, the housing that holds the tripod is not strong. That's exactly what happened to mine, 5 month old camera , now useless. Very disappointed that Zoom would not make this right and cover this under warranty.
Suggestions regarding ZOOM Q2n-4K Mobile Video Recorder Can you consider the following enhancement suggestions for your ZOOM Q2n-4K Mobile Video Recorder product on the follow-up model? You only offer SOFTWARE HandyShare for Windows 7 / 8.1 / 10 Mac OS X 10.11 ~ 10.14 I miss APP for Apple IOS APP for Android and APP control via mobile phone and WIFI / WLAN with recording picture on the phone and with following 7 functions START RECORD STOP RECORD DELETE LAST RECORD START PLAY STOP PLAY NEXT PLAY BACK PLAY Can you give these suggestions to your Forward product development? - I did forget something important to improve your product. At the desired mobile phone APP control should It also be possible to do the made Recordings next to the automatically assigned about DATE and TIME of recording in addition to further Information about the PLACE and NAME of Recording via the Smart-Phone-KEYBOARD to complete. Incidentally, due to the mobile phone APP-Control except the on / off switch all Control-Elements and the Display on the Zoom Q2n-4K is omitted! So your product would be Zoom Q2n-4K much cheaper to produce! The built-in stereo microphone should be future a directional microphone, so the disturbing rear and side Noise can no longer be recorded with!
Best Video I found on this camera, great video, loved the side by side, Zoom should use this to showcase
Simple but informative. Thank you for posting this video, I really appreciate it! Peace!
As an owner of both, I agree with your assessment. Much better video, slightly clearer audio, better in low light on the 4K over the original. Thanks for the video!
And Zoom Q2n 4k at NAMM Show: th-cam.com/video/tTmrMVry6gM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the comment! I am really impressed by this camera for the price as well!
that's surprising as the 4k only goes down to 2.8 whereas the q2n goes down to a 2.0 fstop, better for low light I heard?
@@skidder652003 Yup the older model looked a bit better in low light to me. I wonder if I could screw in my f1.2 8mm thread lens?
@@chrisw5742 film mode sorts this
Awesome Comparison, thank you! :) Do you know if the 4K uses more megapixel on 1080 mode, or is it the same? Like, if you shoot with both on 1080 in the first place, is the 4k still sharper like in this example?
Impressive quality, thank you!
You are welcome!
This video was really helpful! Buying one soon. :)
Yup, definitely waiting on the 4K model, but the og model can be had for a steal if you look.
Yes and they are both great prices.
lovely. this is just what I needed. Thank you!
Thanks. Please more tests for different settings. My goal is Zoom Q2N-4K for live recording of drums and percussion. I hope i can use all kind of GoPro hardware to attach it to stands etc.. In the studio i think of using high quality microphones and a mixer and make a ready to go video at once using the line/stereo-input of the Zoom Q2N-4K . Normally i have to do a lot of editing and mixing in a DAW and edit the high quality studio audio in the video of a normal digital camera. Of course carefull mixing gives best sound quality but ...have some mixer presets for quick drumlesson video´s will give probably better audio than just the Zoom Q2N-4K stereo mic (overheads, snare and kick and play along and perhaps even more quality mics)
Is it just me or is the old Q2n cleaner in low light than the new 4K version?
I share your observation. It's the shadows that appear cleaner but at the expense of dynamic range. The highlights are blown out on the Q2n. Overall, there are ways to clean up the noise in the post. The highlights, and overall resolution are improved but the noise suppression can be improved. I should test it in the other modes to see if they all share the same noise issues in similar lighting situations
I also thought that from these comparisons. I saw on another review that the old Q2n stops down to f2 whereas the newer Q2n4k only goes to f2.8 (might have been 2.3).
@@Grunfeld thats what I heard as well, the q2n works better in low light, ie on a stage which is what it was designed for!
@@Grunfeld I have an f 1.2 M12 lens that would probably work even better for it.
Thanks for the comparative! Just One question do you consider audio IN from both cameras to be identical? The mic from 4k sounds to have a better low end and a bit clear to me. In my case i am looking for the audio in!
You are welcome. I have not tested the audio in from both cameras but I will have to try it out and post a video.
@@westsiderecordingstudio4086 heard its the same, so if different can be really Interesting!
@@westsiderecordingstudio4086 Can´t find the video..?!
Nice , Can we get both using 1080 at best settings, 30fps vs 60fps 1080 , cheers (:
Thank you for this! Super helpful!
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thanks for the video. I was hoping someone would do a comparison between the two. I have the older Q2N and considered going to the 4K version. But they omitted something from the new version I really need. The only scene setting that gives me decent video, in the place I use it most is the "Concert Hall" setting. On the 4K version they did away with that setting. So I doubt the new version would really work for me.
The names of the presets are similar yet have very looks side by side since the Q2n4K preserves highlights better. I put it in the back of an auditorium and was able to record in the high contrast situation without blowing out the stage and kept the shadow detail in the audience. It's definitely something different that need more experimentation.
Concert low light, it's still there
Thanks so much for this!
Oh gosh, everyone here seems so convinced by the 4k yet I'm still wondering if the price difference is worth it... I'm clueless with jargon, so could you please tell me if you used only the camera's own mic for this, or did you plug it into a desk? We record church services weekly to produce dvds, would you recommend any one of these as an upgrade from the Sony SR40?
Can you record for longer than an hour in any one of these? I'm sorry about all these questions but I could REALLY use the help! Thank you very much!
I used the camera's built in mic and not plugged into anything else. You should plug it into a desk if you are recording at a distance and want clean sermons. You can plug USB power into it and record for longer than an hour with a 256GB memory card no problem.
@@westsiderecordingstudio4086 Thank you SO much!
Thanks so much
You are very welcome! Thanks for watching.
What is the Actual color of the drum kit? TheQ2N give it the appearance of Silver. The 4K shows gold. Which is it. That will say alot about the cameras. Thanks
The actual color is silver, that being said, the color of the lights were not white. Kind of like the warmer tones of light can make a white piece of paper look warm white, the reflectivity of silver tends to be tint. The Q2N is doing a hard white balance, identifying the paper as white and making it look whiter than it does in person where the Q2N4K is making the sheet music on the drummer's music stand look like colored lights are shining on it. Also you can see more detail on the music stand where the Q2N looks more overblown. Thanks for the question!
Did you use any sharpening during the downscaling to 1080 from 4K? Is this a Christian band?
No added sharpening. This is the church band rehearsal.
Thank you, ZOOM Q2N 4K it is then.
Thank you very helpful video!
You are very welcome!
Ok why does the 4K model make the blues look purple? And I almost felt that the 4K looked worse in the low light, at least at first.
The 4K model shows colors a little bit more accurately since the lighting was not really blue but a magenta hue. 4K does crush the blacks a little more in the dark for sure.
because the older q2n stops down to an F2 whereas the 4K only stops down to f2.8
Great video! I'll get the 4k model.
did you try to crop/zoom the 4K footage? If so how noisy was it?
Video quality just poor in Low light in general. i use Zoom for the value of the Audio. I refuse to use indoors without dedicated lighting.
Unfortunately there's a fisheye effect with these cameras at the edges of the shot... more pronounced in some shots than others, but even here you can still see it.
Hello. I would like to know if both Zoom have the same micro. Thank you.
Yes they have the same micro sd card slot and micro hdmi
Is the drum set siliver or gold in colour
what is the lo cut setting for th q2n 4k
Wld you happen to know how do I upload videos from my Q2N-4K to my Chromebook? I am able to put it on the Chrome, but after that it is as if it isn't even there when I try to upload. Do you have any suggestions as to how I should go about it. Thanks
I am not sure about this at all. Perhaps try uploading it directly to Drive or to Google Photos?
Be extremely careful that the Q2n 4K camera does not tip over when attached to a tri pod, the housing that holds the tripod is not strong. That's exactly what happened to mine, 5 month old camera , now useless. Very disappointed that Zoom would not make this right and cover this under warranty.
hello sir.. can u teach me.. how to get nice video and sound when artist do performence.. im using q2n 4k .. but when i 1st time use it.. my video so lag.. but the audio superb.. so i dont know how to setting.. can u help me sir.. much thank you
Maybe you need a faster memory card?
which scene mode is choosen ??
i have the q3hd
ZOOM Q2N-4K vs zoom q3hd ?
Sorry I don't actually own a q3hd at the moment but once owned it and this is a far better camera. I hope that helps.
@@westsiderecordingstudio4086 thanks, i wonder if the Q2n is much better for the video (for a bedroom, guitar, with the sun going down too)
@@phenixreturns I would definitely consider using some sort of lighting kit instead of natural lighting to have predictable results. Natural lighting while the sun is going down is not a good situation but I would not try that with either camera. Check out some led light kits on Amazon.
@@westsiderecordingstudio4086 hi zoom q3hd in action in the afternoon , it does not work well with the sun going down in a bedroom even if there is a light or 2 th-cam.com/video/OJshQ0-_C4E/w-d-xo.html
@@westsiderecordingstudio4086 hi, look at that: q3H by ZOOM but when the sun goes down the image is horrible in my bedroom even if i add a 2 lights,
do you know if a go pro is good to record guitars-music ? vs a Zoom Q2N-Q2n 4k or must i stay with ZOOM?
th-cam.com/video/NoXtTqd1ork/w-d-xo.html
and q3h d?
Be extremely careful that this camera does not tip over when attached to a tri pod, the housing that holds the tripod is not strong. That's exactly what happened to mine, 5 month old camera , now useless. Very disappointed that Zoom would not make this right and cover this under warranty.
Suggestions regarding ZOOM Q2n-4K Mobile Video Recorder
Can you consider the following enhancement suggestions for your ZOOM Q2n-4K Mobile Video Recorder product on the follow-up model?
You only offer
SOFTWARE HandyShare for
Windows 7 / 8.1 / 10
Mac OS X 10.11 ~ 10.14
I miss
APP for Apple IOS
APP for Android
and APP control via mobile phone
and WIFI / WLAN
with recording picture on the phone
and with following 7 functions
START RECORD
STOP RECORD
DELETE LAST RECORD
START PLAY
STOP PLAY
NEXT PLAY
BACK PLAY
Can you give these suggestions to your
Forward product development?
-
I did forget
something important to improve your product.
At the desired mobile phone APP control should
It also be possible to do the made
Recordings next to the automatically assigned
about
DATE and TIME of recording
in addition to further Information about the
PLACE and NAME of Recording
via the Smart-Phone-KEYBOARD to complete.
Incidentally, due to the mobile phone APP-Control
except the on / off switch all Control-Elements
and the Display on the Zoom Q2n-4K is omitted!
So your product would be Zoom Q2n-4K
much cheaper to produce!
The built-in stereo microphone should be future
a directional microphone, so the disturbing rear and side
Noise can no longer be recorded with!
Muito bom
Videos never have this view, finanli my phone is better in Vidéo mode.
the sound is good.
Pretty cringe if you ask me