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- We were hoping we wouldn't find any blisters but what can you expect when you buy a $100 Boat... We go over our thoughts and what we plan to do as well as close up some unnecessary holes in the boat.
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-1708 Biaxial Fiberglass Cloth
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I’m really enjoying this new series! So exciting!✌️
I appreciate how you’ve broken down this huge project into chunks for us to more easily consume and understand. The size of this project would be daunting for most, keep plugging away at it!
Their ambition in taking on this boat is truly inspiring. My old arthritic joints probably wouldn't be able to keep up with these two though.
Omg my back hurts just watching Sierra bend backwards and sanding above her head. I’d die, you rock girl!
You two are such hard workers! We appreciate the videos, and we wish you the best! If you're ever on the Big Island of Hawaii, come and see us.
Completely agree on your blister management for this ol' gal. She has got to come out of the water every 2-3 years for fresh bottom paint anyways so just dealing with blisters if they resurface during regular bottom maintenance makes sense. If this was a Swan 60 with a room full of trophies I might feel differently but... She is not.
spot on.
agreed, 100%
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Actually every season it’s gotta be hauled out for bottom cleaning and management.
@@westonbadke5434 no it doesn't, nobody does that every year
Sooooo did y'all decide not to get the new boat ( the sea wind ) or what ever it was you were supposed to get back last February ? You are talkin about keepin this boat for 2 to 3 years ? I was just wonderin ?
I'd rather a dirty, paint stained, stinky shirt. That way my wife thinks I'm working hard every day of my retirement whilst she's at work.😉 Don't send me a clean one please!
That boat would float another 100yrs before those small blisters would be a serious issue.
Sand it smooth and seal it, roll on.
All you need to do is get a heavy coin like a silver dollar and tap the bottom of you boat. When you are on a piece of the fiberglass that has a void or a delamination the tone of the tap of the coin will change.it is a definite change to the sound of the tap. Then proceed to grind out your voids and fill your voids with some fine chopped fiberglass that you chop up yourself all in the same process after you fill your void with chopp glass then add two layers of a heavier fiber cloth over lapping the void by several inches all around the second ply of cloth should overlap the fist ply by a half inch all the way around your patch you final ply of glass should be a lighter weight a cosmetic glass. make sure you rough up your area you are going to glass. The last step to the glassing is take a piece of say green film plastic something equivalent to like a auto glass film lay this over your repair and take a plastic card and use this like squeegee you will see all the air bubbles
Sorry but my comment was sent before I finished. When the glass dries peel the plastic of you will have a strong repair with very little sanding involved . When you sand use a 120 grit and finish with a 240 wet and dry paper use wet. You will have a permanent fix with way less labor involved at a fraction of the cost. I am retired now but i was trained in this field by a major helicopter company. Hope this helps
CLR calcium remover is concentrated and works great. Interesting project you are really rushing through it. Looking Good!.
That thickened epoxy is amazing stuff! Cures hard as a rock in time, right? I was wondering just why you won’t be replacing the generator? Seems like a very valuable piece of equipment! Obviously the boat really doesn’t need an AC system IF it stays in the PNW. Any updates on the new boat build schedule?
You did a great job here!! Love watching transformation each week!!
You guys do great work! And it shows!
Hard work, you guys are doing a great job ! What did I miss about the new Boat that you were so excited about ?
Great job !! Y’all are really bringing her back !! It’s going to be a wonderful boat when your finished.
Fair winds 🛥⛵️
Recommendation only: Once you do complete these repairs, and then put it back in the water. I would check these places visually each day to see if you have any leaks.
Billy that girl of yours can work harder than most men I know.
The men in the boatyard around us would agree with you
No sure what you may doing for Air Conditioning, but you should look at fellow YTBr Emily and Clark's Sailing Adventure. Clark, an engineer, designed a DC battery powered AC unit for boats, Very efficient and a 100ah Lith bat can run the 5000btu unit all night and it is now being manufactured and is reasonably priced,
It's a $100 boat to you and you've already done thousands in improvements. I whole heartedly agree with just doing spot repairs for the blistering you've found for now as long as it isn't so bad that it's severally weakening the hull, which I really doubt it is. That way if in a few years you decide you're going to keep her you go the all out professional route if it's needed. We all know that you'll tell anyone who buys the boat about the issues with blistering which would also be found by any decent surveyor. Things are coming a long very nicely and I honestly think she really is a much better vessel than what you started with. I'll be curious to see how much you ask for her in the future and if all works as I have planned I may actually be in the market in around 3 years...
Sierra is such a hard-working lady; you are a lucky man to have such good help and mate! You both are amazing workers on restorations of old boats. Admire your work!
Seriously.
I would have gotten the moisture tester to check if the blisters and surrounding area actually had moisture in it.
Also those thru hole PATCHES are not structurally sound. All hole are a 12:1 repair. Meaning if the hole in your boat is 1 inch. You have to grind out 12 in from the edge of the hole and install many layers of fiberglass to be structurally sound. Being a TH-camr I'm surprised you haven't checked out fiberglass repair on Thru-holes.
Andy from Boat Works, does nothing but fiberglass. Here's the correct way of doing your repair. m.th-cam.com/video/i9hfpOCnzEs/w-d-xo.html
I’ve been neglecting keeping up to date with Tula. Are we keeping the new boat order in the works?
Billy, that's a way too simplistic explanation of blisters. It's wrong to just blame 'Polyester resins'.
But I agree that in general a neglected boat left in the water will get issues.
Most fiberglass production boats are still made of Polyester based resin and gelcoats.
BUT there are many types of Polyester Resins. The different types have a variety of properties for specific applications.
General Purpose (GP) or Ortophalic resin should not be used under water, builders have been using the better Isothaphlic resins in boat hulls and gelcoats for 50 years.
Some boats have have vinyl ester type Polyester resins used in the first 1-2 layers behind the gelcoat as they generally have better water resistance. Some versions of vinyl ester type Polyester resins have much greater chemical resistance and are used in chemical plants for pipe work that would be destroyed by high acidity , high chlorination and various other chemicals used in industry. The choice of resin is based on the applications requirements. Same in boat building.
FYI until recent years Vinyl ester type Polyester resins and epoxy resins were a lot harder to work with and the manufacturing defects would probably be more of a problem than resin choice.
Modern barrier coats are NOT a magic material that will protect a hull from all blistering. But it does certainly help.
There is huge research into blistering causes and just blaming 'polyester' resin is way to simplistic.
Your approach to this vessel is I believe a good solution for now. Wait until you increase the value enough to make it sensible to do a long term fix.
Great video as always cheers Warren
What if you could make an Edison generators to power the electric motor s and the electrical system? What would that mean? Well it would mean that you chiseled off the Tesla magnets from old car generators until you had enough amps to power the motors and system and added inverters to deliver 110 volt AC power. Or left at 12volt DC. It would mean you have unlimited range electric power motoring and unlimited ro water and unlimited heat or refrigerated.
My generator was seized also, I put a battery bank and solar panels and inverter. I use my little Ryobi 2200 for night
I know absolutely zero about boats... but those tiles on the ceiling of the engine room looks similar to asbestos tiles... yikes... hope not...
Get yourself a old car window to mix your fairing compound on, once dry clean of with thinner or gun wash, then you're ready to start again with a clean glass window for your next batch.
THE ONLY TO GET RID OF BLISTERS ON OLD BOATS IS TO BURN THEM AS LONG AS YOU GET THE WORST YOUR ARE GOOD TO GO iM 73 AND SAW THE WORST BLISTERS GREAT LAKES FRESH WATER AND FREEZING EVERY WINTER iVE SEEN $30000 BILISTER REPAIRS FAIL NOT COMPLETELY BUT YOU NEVER GET THEM ALL GOOD LUCK YOUR DOING WELL FOR THE BOAT
You're both doing a great job.... I always hated prepping the bottom, except for painting, I didn't mind that so much because it didn't take too long LOL..
I would never in a million years peel back all the fiberglass on a bottom because of a blister... Just grind it out, then fill and reseal..done..
Hope you do find another generator to replace the one that you took out because you really do need one, unless you never plan on anchoring and keep the boat plugged in at a marina..
Doubt anyone needs air conditioning in the Pacific Northwest.. just heat...
Where is Sierra? Didn't like this video so much, bring back Sierra.
Is it fair to say that you eliminated the generator because the solar system you are going to use will provide enough power?
Started out like a murder scene. She's all passed out and your all masked up. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
$100?!?!? Dude i'll give ten times that for it!
Were those through hulls filled properly? it seems like they wouldn't have a lot to adhere to.
Are you able to listen to music or a book while you’re sanding, or is the noise just too much.
We have a couple of boats with osmosis. Our surveyor advised (long ago) that he didn't know of a boat which had ever sunk because of osmosis!
No but Marina make lots of money correcting a non problem LOL
Greetings from Australia guys you are doing a great job and are excellent at telling your story I really enjoy watching the transformation of this lovely old boat.!
Hi you two. Have you even thought of a new name for this vessel?
Perhaps pick into the blisters to determine depth. You can tent the hull up to the boot strap and literally run a dehumidifier to dry it out with more confidence and then grind out the blisters and fill in.
What's the true dates of these videos? When will you make it up to the Northwest or are you already here?
Maybe when you kid's are done with the trawler, do an online auction. I think you may do very well with it, hell... I would give a bid on it. Lots of time and money spent, and we know that, best advertising for selling it. Keep up the great work.
Are you replacing the Generator? If not then what will be the plan for power?
Generator locked up. 🤔. Not worth trying to break it free?
Can't you do the sports that you can see and remove the wet areas an fix them then paint the bottom of the boat the then put on that counting ?
I'm real confused. Aren't you getting a new catamaran?
I have a 1969 Bristol Trawler with all the original sea cocks
Maybe where you are located the boat doesn't need AC or a generator but no way here in the south.
These are public comments and discussion.
I used that body filler stuff in my auto body school
We want to satines merch…. Hahahaha. Love the refit.
Sounds like the Money Pit……
Super fun vid dude. Thanks. 🤙🏼🍻💯🎯
I just fished going crazy 1978 Thomson 44 foot trawler cut everything below the water line down no gelcoat left .over 1 year on the hard. My old sea peco strainers .PB blaster let it soak after vinegar then pressure wash cleaned up great .all new through hull fittings above and below the water line brass no plastic .about 5 gallons of resin I do not know how many yards of woven and chop stran 6 gallons of tuff stuff 4.5 gallons of bottom paint .glade it's done .enough on that I am looking for spare parts for my 12 kw kohler generator. I could not make out what make generator you have there .I got my kohler generator back up and running great .but parts are hard to find .I would like to find spare brushes and retaining springs for older slip ring style generator. The wife and I have been living and cruising ours for past 4 months and got to have AC no more long open water journeys for us body's can't take it any more .lots left to see on the ten tom our home Port is Florida enjoying Columbus MS this past month .I have been following your Channel for awhile good stuff
Not sure if what you were looking at was actually exposed fiberglass, looks like pitted gelcoat. I would if its solid core, sand off the old antifouling and expose the gelcoat, paint the gelcoat with 5:1 epoxy, then paint with barrier coat, then antifouling. Looks like you need a sander. 6 inch orbital sander by rigid is what I use, 40 grit sand paper depending on how hard the old antifouling is, should do a square foot in a minute. Harder places to get to use a sandpaper flapper disk on a grinder(careful cause its very aggressive)(a light touch).
Great job on the boat. My wife and I have watched all of your videos. I would recommend keeping some some crystalline citric acid on board for cleaning calcium and magnesium deposits. It's available from Amazon, is inexpensive, compact, doesn't stink up the cabin like vinegar, rinses away easily and, as an added bonus, is the best cleaner that I have found for coffee makers. Start by dissolving two teaspoons citric acid per liter water for all applications.
I think it's kinda funny, as many people who watch videos like this, think to themselves "this is easy! I could do this!" Without realizing that all this work has been edited down to bite size snippets. There are HOURS & HOURS of hard back breaking work involved here! I feel for Siera having to lay on her back on that tote box and sand down the bottom of the boat. Not easy at all! Kudos to you both!
As for those nasty blisters...why couldn't you do the same thing to them as you're doing to those old thru-hulls?? Drill them completely out, and put that same kinda patch repairs on 'em??
I'd bet it would work great, and last for a good many years...over taking the entire top layer of glass off the hull.
Well, great work guys!! She's looking really wonderful! All that hard work is paying off.
If you come up the Pacific coastline, you'll be going right past our place, so dinner's on me!!
Less talky, more worky
Taiwan boats built in the 70's do not have blister problems due to the fact they were built resin rich. Even into the 80's they were pretty good. Pop the blisters, dry them and fill them and that boat is fine!
I remember investigation outcomes on osmosis issues on earlier GRP boats (here in Australia) was considered to be caused by poor quality control in the course of mixing the resins in the course of the gelcoat spray and subsequent laminate layup (during manufacture). The osmotic bubbles were ground out and laminate replaced with a waxed flowcoat used to complete the repair (rather than unwaxed gelcoat). After that it was just monitoring required at subsequent slippings.
Hi guys ! I had the pleasure of meeting you at the Boat yard a couple of times and it looks like you’re making amazing progress. She is shaping up magnificently! I couldn’t help but wonder about your Onan Generator that you may be getting rid of. There is a chance that I could possibly use yours for parts. Do you know the size and model # ?
Keep up the good work.
I also agree. My brother just sold his 1985 32' sailboat. The buyers idiot surveyor told the buyer that the entire hull needed to be sandblasted "in case" there were any blisters. Luckily the buyer ignored that rec.
I'm sorry you didn't put valves in, instead of patching the holes. Now what are you going to do if you get really mad at this boat and you can't scuttle it huh? See, I'm always thinking. Love you guys!!
Hey young man…..where did you learn so much about boats, fiberglass, epoxy, electrical systems, etc. in such a short , to date, lifespan? I’m impressed…😎
Good progress on the project. Before the summer is over I hope you two get to sail, kite or wing under the gate. If that is too far away consider Sherman Island near Rio Vista. Reliable wind, and great ramps during an ebb tide. Ebb will constantly take you up wind. You deserve a fun session while some of those coatings dry.
Between that trawler and yours and Ciara's skills that trawler is huge enough to turn into a floating Workshop making a lot of money also using your TH-cam channel to video some of these jobs you'll come up with
Thanks for the longer video. We miss you guys. What a cool project you're taking on. Was there any asbestos, anywhere?
If you have blisters , it's called osmosis. The blisters are course by uncured resin . Well glycol in the resin . I've don't several osmosis treatments. You don't need to peel back to dry glass , you need to peel just the primary layer , them steam clean several time and dry Hull, uv lights work . Them epoxy and any other coating you wish .
Hay Billy I think your wife and you are doing a very good job....Keep up the good work......
I would consider plaining down the blisters at location and rebuild with epoxy. Otherwise, your project is meticulous and you're doing a good job. The interior of the boat is spacious and attractive. When finished, the boat will be worth much more than what you paid.
I had a houseboat that was plagued with blisters! Did the exact same thing, ground them out, faired them, painted it! 5 years later pulled the boat again and did not have any new blisters! And the blisters ranged in size from a dime to a 50-cent piece! Itd b aw'ight!!!! Goodonyas!
You dont have to peel the bottom. Just sand down to the glass and let the boat sit in a sunny warm environment for a couple months. The bottom will dry out. If you really want to go ham on it, tent it with clear plastic to create a greenhouse effect.
There is also the time consuming osmosis technique that Saillife (Mads) did…
I was think tent or rather a big bag and then stick a dehumidifier in it.
we would just peel all the gelcoat, then disc deaper any deep soft spots and then it needs to dry to less than 5% humidity but this could take up to six months depending on the weather
Pop 'em baby!! Hey at least, at least diesel prices are starting to drop...
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I'm enjoying watching the transformation of the boat. In fact over the years I've watched many many projects on boats or trucks. I gotta tell ya though I miss getting to see Sierra in a bikini:-)) I'm not leaving, just that she is so beautiful. Stay safe and I hope you are having fun making your project move forward.
your choice of blister fix is most reasonable. there are other possible money pits you could come across and may make the project cost more than market value. I appreciate your confidents and courage.
Have it hauled out in California/Mexico for a summer & sand off the barrier coat that will dry it out.
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Billy and Sierra, I have a question that I know you can answer for me. Is there a fee to use the locks on the intracoastal waterway between New York and Fla?
I was thinking is she going to change out of that white shirt before sanding anti-foul, but then the tyvek suit came out, phew the white shirt will live another day 🤣
What yard was this at?
Nice to meet you both.
Dude! I can tell your agonized on the blisters.
You must do what works for you. You got it - years into the future make a different choice.
You guys are awesome.
LOL.)) love it!
I heard a rumor you might be meeting Delos down in Mexico sometime soon. Would you be sailing a new Sewwind or motoring an old fixer upper?
Could you put a membrane over the bottom of the boat and then pull a vacuum to get the water out of the hull? Sort of like what they do for air conditioning systems. Just a thought. Keep the good stuff coming guys.
Loved the video Guys , most blisters come from the inside out and are already in the laminate , sometimes from moisture in the glass or layup , very rarely do they come from the outside , Jesus you guys are hard workers
Good choice. I would just keep chasing the blisters as you find them. It will just be one more maintenance item. nothing new on an old boat.
Love the humour, I agree on the blister repairs..... it’s pretty good when you consider the age of the boat
Billy I'm not a doctor but it worries me about that knot on your right side of your collarbone go get it checked out I hope it's okay
Just wondering if y'all are concerned with asbestos on the interior? Those ceiling tiles in the engine room looked like they might be.
Looking forward for Sierra to start decorating the interior. So jealous of that build, you guys are really doing well.
The 'Old Bronze' was Manganese Bronze and Yes, it's much more resilient to a salt water environment that modern Silicon Bronze
Still think you could sell the boat to a land lover who has a piece of land to set it up on! They could make it able to go through a winter. Would be nice having that boat set up in the country for someone to live in!
Well done…
Turn the trawler into a floating Workshop and live in cruise on the new catamaran you got all this money and invested in it now you may as well take it for what it is and use it to your advantage
Why is it relaxing to watch others work? Doesn't make a lick of sense. 🤔
Is the boat timber fibreglassed over below the water line guys?
Will you replace the generator with wind, solar, battery bank? Or new generator?
Be careful connecting to your fresh water , make sure you put a chemically sealed none return . You would do better to use sae water.
Think you all are doing a great job but wondering why you would not want to replace the generator?
I was hoping you had a good haul on there but I guess your hole repairs are going to work just fine need to get you through three or four years or longer maybe you'll be a grandpa by then LOL haha you always do a good job so don't worry we're doing fine.. after all you rebuilt diesel engines so I know a couple hole patches are a breeze you guys stay safe hope you give us a video on Sunday har har