As someone who really only had negative experience with the church, it’s nice to be able to watch this and sate my curiosity, I may not be a “Christian” but I do know the message of the Bible is a beautiful one and not just one people should throw away cause of the past. Thank you guys, for making studying the Bible a positive thing again.
Hey, I don't attend church anymore but I still consider myself a Christian. The narcissistic competitive nature of church leadership and the "select set" of their followers was always elite, in the church at least! I'm too old for that shit of having to explain myself for asking questions. All the best.
These podcasts are really important by the way. From both of you, for Christians to be able to see genuinely faithful God fearing men openly discussing their faith while being as visible as you are means a lot and God is most certainly working through you both.
@@TheLoreLodge I hope you realize how inspirational and needed both of you young men are. I cant put into words how much 2 men on youtube mean to me, and so many others from what I have read in the comments. In this insane world as it stands, and so many of us with faith has been waning over the years, the goodness of God beams through you both, and fills so many of us with hope and rekindles that spark we all so desperately need. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Much love brothers.
a little over year ago i became so on fire for God, digging deeper into the bible and spent as much time as i could praying and talking with God but i was told by my mentor there would come troubles by getting closer with God. it sounded so silly to me and i would foolishly say “the devil himself couldn’t separate me from God.” i would pray for the strength of Job but a day came where an old..acquaintance came along and she knew my weaknesses, well any man’s true weakness, better than anyone else and she was a slippery slope i couldn’t avoid. it was almost like all of the fire in my heart was put out over a weeks time and i just, well, threw in the towel. it’s crazy how strong Job was in his faith. even i, knowing that i cannot comprehend the true powers of God but do know it is real, find myself struggling to even show my face to God out of shame and embarrassment, which i’m beginning to realize more and more lately is that it’s really pride i’m dealing with. working on my relationship with God again and i cannot help but to look towards Job as an example of true faith, it’s truly amazing. you guys have good chemistry and it made this completely enjoyable and i’m just halfway through it. about that song by Reliant K - Getting Into You, reminded me of when my mentor told me getting closer with God would bring troubles (temptations and such). i would’ve never believed how truly difficult vices and old habits could be to ignore or how much more in my face, apparent, they would become, the more i strengthened my relationship with God. its a beautiful song and reminds me of a song by Exiting the Fall - Father. God be with you both.
If I do something naughty, god will turn his back on me, my idol will be disappointed enough to send me to hell to be abused for all eternity, burning in agony, with no relief. But..my dick rules my morals so, meh, nuts to god, let's go get some!! I'm not sure what aspect of the story is more sad, in all honesty.
I don't understand why your mentor would say that getting close with God is a bad thing. The whole point is to be more virtuous, isn't it? Is it because temptation will follow you the more you follow God? The whole point of sin and temptation is that it's separation from God. You don't need God to find temptation, it's literally everywhere you go. Life will have its tests and tribulations no matter much of a saint or sinner you are. You will find yourself trying to shake off old habits, or cutting off people or things that no longer serve you. I would argue that being more in touch with yourself, your intuition and God is a GOOD thing.
@@ruesylvester well i kindly suggest you read what i said again, my mentor never said it’s a bad thing to draw closer to God, just that it brings troubles. i’ll refer you to one verse my mentor would cite, 1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour”. i believe wholeheartedly the devil knows our vices and our weaknesses, and uses them against us. that is what he was warning me about. he wasn’t suggesting i should he worried or afraid of living God, or even advising that i shouldn’t because it was dangerous. he was just saying that with coming closer with God, you pose a greater threat to the devil and his dealings. just by trying to live your life according to the Spirit, there is an untold amount of people you may have a dramatic affect on in their life and change them for the better. i agree, being in tune with God is 100% a good thing. there’s a song i like that goes “if loving you is putting me in danger, than i never want to be safe.” God be with you bro.
@@TristanAD_ thanks for clarifying. i understand what you mean now. the devil’s got nothing on me tho. no matter how much darkness i may go through, i know that there is always a light at the end of the tunnel. i will always rise up. and that’s something i wish i could give to everyone on this planet. i want everyone to succeed.
For the question being asked at 3:05:30, I once heard someone say "Just because people lie about the Bible doesn't mean the Bible lies about God" and I feel like that encapsulates the heart of the matter. People do evil in God's name, but that doesn't mean God wants it or approves of it
“The road to Hell is paved with the bones of priests and monks, and the skulls of bishops are the lamp posts that light the path.” -St. John Chrysostom
This is so important to me, especially because I'm not a Christian. I have a friend who kinda shits on organized religion but especially Christianity. Now, it's usually when there's news of children being abused by priests and stuff, so I get it. But it's discuaging to listen to someone condense everything down to the actions of the few. It's stuff like this that gives me a greater appreciation for something I would ortherwise not really be able to understand.
Every organized institution has one very serious weakness, allowing evil people to exploit it. That weakness being certain reputation and power coming with certain achievements. That's why there happen horrible things you've mentioned. Also people focusing on that, while ignoring literally every other institution, that allows adults being alone with children for long periods of time, riddled with the same crime - doesn't help. Bible never claims that everyone, who has position in Church, is a saint. Furthermore, it warns about numbers of false shepherds increasing as times go on. So it's an issue, yes, and exactl;y because of that issue (and many others) we, humans, need to be saved. BTW, i'm not even Catholic, and can criticize some practices, which i deem un-Biblical, that lead to increased numbers of such horrible acts, but let's be real, even with every improvement i'd see as positive, there still would be predators, like they are in kindergardens, schools, orphanages, pediatric hospitals and etc. I don';t think we should advocate for all of those institutions to cease to exist, just because those positions, that help improve lives of millions, can be taken over by evil individuals.
Honestly feel like I've been getting more prayers answered than I deserve recently. Like it's small stuff like "I want to see more dogs today" or "I want to see my little sister." I feel far more blessed than I deserve. I know it's tiny stuff but I can't help but get slightly teary-eyed. It was a hard time last year and I can't help but be thankful for these tiny prayers answered. I know it's off topic but I wanted to thank you guys for pushing me that slightest bit to pray and talk with God. I know he doesn't talk physically but it's the best way to describe how I pray.
@TH-ul1kf I honestly forgot about this comment until I saw this in the notification, lol. Also, slight update he must've been tired of sending dogs my way cause I now got one.
I've been struggling with a lot of stuff in my faith recently and I cannot express how much you guys and your videos have helped me. It literally feels like these videos were made specifically in response to my problems and I just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart. Love you two so much
I’ve been feeling quite the same with my faith, it’s nice to know i’m not the only one. I feel so guilty for struggling :( these videos are really a God send
Man y’all about made me cry in the middle of work with this episode, I’ve always had questions like these and y’all answered them perfectly. The whole Bible podcast y’all do are amazing, I hope we can get the both of you some more.
As a very naughty young man who has just made it back to faith, it's calming and inspiring to hear two intelligent young men talk about their own experiences. Thank you.
My favorite quote from a movie is, “Everything will be alright in the end, if it is not alright, then it is not yet the end…” (The Best Marigold Hotel) Edit: slight fix of quote.
I really appreciate these podcasts. I grew up in a very abusive home in every manner imaginable that was also devoutly and strictly religious. I fell away from the faith and don’t know if I’ll ever be able to turn back as I’m comfortable not knowing what is out there and just living my life to be the best human I can be. But it is very cool to listen and learn about the bible in a way my pastors and family were never able to accomplish in church. These are really well done and very helpful, informative, and entertaining for me. I look forward to the next one, even if I can’t catch the live bc of my work schedule.
There’s an author/pastor named CR Wiley is working on this. His other books are on Tom Bombadil, masculinity, and “The Household and the War for the Cosmos.”
I expressed my curiosity about the Bible to one of my elderly clients today. And she told me Job is something I such start with. And now I got recommended this, so that’s kinda neat of TH-cam to do.
I had a similar experience as Wendigoon. The night my grandfather died I had a dream he came to me and it was hyper realistic and a very rewarding/fulfilling experience to say the least. His main message to me was "don't worry this is all part of it."
I didn't know about this channel before Wendigoon's Missing 411 video, but I'm so glad I found it. These are the types of conversations that I hope to be knowledgeable enough to have with my friends (and strangers, anyone who will listen, really) some day. Keep up the good work!
I really appreciate what y’all are doing with this series. I’ve been having a rough time with life recently, and have fallen quite far away from Christ, but y’all have reinvigorated my interest in studying scripture and I really appreciate that. Keep up the good work y’all are doing. You’re genuinely helping people.
I like that the thumbnail is a double entendre, because if "Job" is pronounced differently, and instead of the proper noun is taken as a noun, it's calling The Devil a Jobber (someone who consistently loses a lot) which is both amusing and woefully accurate.
I discovered this channel through wendigoon, and now I have so much content to keep me entertained since my job has me driving a lot. Keep sharing the good word of the Lord our God!
i want to say, this podcast has helped me alot. givin me alot to think about. i havent read through the bible because it is hard to me to do so, or i am lacking the will to do so, but this podcast helps me learn scripture and it also explains it in a way i might not think about. i do alot of thinking, id consider myself a philosopher in a way, i will ponder things i know about the bible but i know not everything, so this helps me learn more and more over time i a way i can digest. this is a very important podcast and im glad i found it, ill be listening whenever possible. love you guy! - Cujo
Thank you! That's the kind of thing that makes this all really special to the two of us. Being able to help people explore their faith without fear of judgement for asking questions is very important to us.
Isaiah spoke really beautifully about stewardship of nature and how our choices affect other people, and I wish there would be more emphasis on stuff like that in mainstream christian discourse. Especially in the US I think, but pretty much everywhere we would benefit from thinking about our responsibility to tend to our shared home and do concrete things according to that responsibility
Thank you guys for this channel! - having a platform that delves deeper into the Bible, I’m a new born Christian and this has aided me in understanding the scriptures better. Big cheers to you guys! 🎉
I genuinely just enjoy listening to all the podcasts and your rambles. But I have to be honest, this one was really special. I've been deepdiving into the Bible since last year. I was baptised exactly a year ago in two days. And since then, have been suffering. Greatly. So Job has been a huge inspiration. Also, my favourite prophet is Isaiah. I've experienced God speaking to me through the book of Isaiah. So now He speaks also to me through TH-camr Isaiah. Which, I mean, touché Kyrios, touché.
Its wild to me that most Christians havent read the bible, like on their own accord. I remember as a child going to a supermarket and buying my own bible because christianity was constantly shoved down my throat and I wanted to fully understand the book it was all about. But I think it comes down to humans just accepting what their told to believe, tho this subject is a weird one considering children get indoctrinated before they learn to question the world. I guess shout out to my aunts and grandmothers who constantly read their bible, even to the point one of my grandmothers kept my picture in her bible when she was dying with dementia, really let's you know that she kept her grandbabies as close as she did her god lol
I love these guys. The remark about the house is living.. I have an experience that correlates deeply with that. My old home was full of abuse, my sister was a devil worshipper and basically anything you could think, it had been committed there. It was an evil house, you could feel it And it got to the point that I had gotten physically sick from living there. After moving into a place we knew was normal- I never felt that evil ever again I’m not religious but I believe in God and I like listening to these guys
So the entire Jobs wife thing, I’ve always thought of it that she’s a grieving mother who lashed out because of the pain of the loss of her kids. Not saying it’s right, but it makes me a little more sympathetic to her
Would like to say Wendigoon is a huge inspiration to me as a human being. I discovered you through conspiracy theory stuff and learned that you’re a Christian as I was raised as one too shortly afterward and not only do I enjoy all of your content but I’ve also learned a lot of insight from hearing you talk about your faith as well. I’ve always been pretty sure of my faith but hearing others talk about their opinions and interpretations of stuff has only strengthened it and made me feel closer to god as well. Wendibussy
Wendigoons helped me strengthen my faith and get me actively reading the bible again, its really encouraging to have other young guys similar to you discussing it on the internet
Thank you for covering the book of job. I've always struggled to understand it, even as a lifelong Lutheran. The comforting message it brings as well is definitely one I needed to hear after the absolute disaster of a week I had. I'm glad I found this podcast. Also, I'm very much looking forward to that bible cosmic horror video, Wendigoon.
As someone who personally was raised Catholic, not religious whatsoever but open in understanding not just Judeo-Christian religion but all forms of religious beliefs thereof, it's fascinating seeing a breakdown of these books and what they represent, what they can teach and even what fun cosmic horrors await us mere mortals.
41:11 made me think of the tower of babel discussion and summed up the old testament as the "imma fight god, damn, god got hands" meme, also i'm pro predestination on the fact that god is all powerful but am definitely against the laziness approach many people take with it, its a very complicated thing thats impossible to grapple in its entirety and we will never understand until we go and be with the lord
59:43 my old Bible study group in college jokingly tossed around the idea of doing Old Testament style sacrifices with stuffed animals in those windowed study rooms just to freak people out. That would be my suggestion.
God is a caring omnipotent father who loves you so much he'll allow his advisory to torture you to prove how much you want to be by God's side 😭 beautiful
For the discussion at around 1:15:00, my pastor said that he is thankful for the tough season, because in those seasons, God is teaching us things that we will need in later seasons of life
I'm halfway through the video I agree with pretty much everything you guys have been saying I'm really enjoying this My only "but" is how you portrayed Job's "award" (I guess) for his suffering as his legacy, or how he will be viewed through out history as God's most faithful servant I think suffering in general and the outcome of suffering should be for God's glory, and God's glory alone I don't think Job's gift was his legacy But rather, being allowed the opportunity to show God's glory through the life he lived
I found you through Wendigoon's Missing 411 video. I binge all of your video and is working my way through the podcast. I dont agree with some of your worldview and attitude but I really enjoy listening to you talk. Keep being you man.
I love these guys and I think healthy discussion concerning God and the Bible is welcomed by God and helps our understanding of our faith. However and I'm sure this goes without saying but as a person who has been a Christian for the last 40 years take what they both say with a grain of salt. While they get most things correct some of their ideas and opinions that they sometimes state as fact is way off base and not true or biblical in the least. I say this only to new Christians and people on the fence. Again just be careful and make sure to read your Bible, do your own research, read biblical scholars and compare and contrast so you get the actual objective truth God is trying to convey through his word. Again I say this with love and respect for both of these gentlemen because they are extremely intelligent and beautiful human beings!! 🙏💖✝️
Something interesting about Job that is often kind of glossed over is Job 1:6. God apparently just assembles his angles for meetings like it’s a corporate office or something which is weird enough to think about. Then add in the fact that Satan apparently is either invited to the meetings, or at least is told when and where they’ll be. And at least on one occasion, but perhaps frequently, he showed up to the meeting. Angels don’t appear to be omnipresent or omniscient or anything, so God either invited him or let him know about this meeting. Weird to think about because I always imagine them to be so separated, but apparently they’ll just strike up a conversation all casual like. Anyway, excited for the next episode, wish this was weekly.
Heyo, I was born Catholic and have since… separated myself from Christianity, especially it’s organized form. I’ve leaned toward Norse paganism and Judaism and every which way until just really deciding that I think it’s all pretty nifty. I really used to love reading the Bible as a kid tho, the Old Testament particularly, and as I’ve grown I’ve kinda just moved away from the Bible. But I’m getting back into it now with the same kinda vigor and fascination that I have for other religious texts, because I’m not being forced. This kind of analysis right here? I love it. So thanks you guys, this is content even a non-specific religious person can enjoy.
2:56:50 Paradise Lost is a great example of how to handle him. He is humanized, but definitely not a "good guy". You can understand his reasoning, but you comprehend his delusion and lies. I do agree with Wendi regarding his take that most people misunderstand the purpose behind his depiction however. Lucifer is portrayed there as tempting, relatable, and in some ways grey not because he has good in him, but because evil is seductive and the Devil is sly.
I am new to both of your channels, and love this discussion. I think the major theme in the story of Job (as you said) is just surrendering to your faith in God no matter how bad things get. It's easy for humans to think of religions as "transactional" in that "person prays to God and gets good things" or conversely "if a person does bad things then bad things should happen to them". So when bad things happen to good people the first inclination is to ask "what did I do to deserve this?" I was taught that evil was brought into the world by man's sin and this Earthly life is a battleground for our souls. If God would stop every bad situation then it would diminish the value of free will but also bad situations are opportunities for good people to exercise their free will to do good in the world. There are many situations in which our free will is the choice between relying on the spiritual self or giving into the animal in which we inhabit. An old priest once told me, "The measure of a man is how well he controls the animal in which he lives."
Ok, maybe it was a while since you've read Book of Job, guys, but wasn't the point of his friends' speeches that Job is suffering because of his sins? They try to make him confess in his sins in different ways, but overall each one of them thinks that what happened to Job is a fruit of his sins, and that he should admit it, confess and repent. And Job grows increasingly frustrated with them, because he knows he didn't sin (and he was correct in that). And that banter with different arguments continued for too long until God told all of them that it's basically not their job (heh) to question God and His actions. They can't even comprehend things that are on their nose, let alone God Himself as well as His actions. Book of Job is actually a lesson that bad things may happen to good people, and if you gave your life to Him, you just have to accept, that sometime you can be used as an instrument to improve condition of others. And that in the end of the day God Himself will tend to His suffering children, delivering them. It ultimately challenges the idea of "if you do bad, bad things happen to you, if you do good - good things happen to you". And while that simplistic idea can be true to some limited extent, it's definitely not how material universe, Earth, works. Especially, well, since everyone sinned and deserves death, so by the simplistic idea i've mentioned above, everyone deserves bad things happening to them by default. So even as perfect of a human as Job was, deserves punishment, and thus salvation can come not through good deeds and rituals, but through grace and mercy of God.
Hey youtube! To wedi and aiden, I appreciate you two and look up to you a lot. Thank you for helping me with my walk with faith. I’ve been having a lot of struggles and y’all have genuinely helped me get closer to the good ol sky daddy. Keep up the great work guys, y’all are up to really dope things my dudes 👉😎👉
I wish I could get in on the live stream but all those dang real world grown up responsibilities get in the way of doing whatever I want! Dag nabbit! Either way, keep up the awesome work you guys!
Job was the first book of the bible I read all the way through when I was younger and it's always been my favorite book,what from it back then was we will go through some crap but just hang on an their will be blessings better then what you already had. And it also shows how "satan" or principalities can use people in our lives to not only influence you but to get you to go against God too. ( Like how he used Jobs wife) This book has soooo much in it tho. So I pray everyone gets blessed with curiosity and unpacks it ❤
2:09:17 Not trying to be offensive but the minute i heard this, the first thing that came to my head is that brother died from cringe bottom text Love the podcast, from a non religious person, i agree, the Story of Creation/ the Bible is the greatest story ever told. Many parts make me cry because how beautiful the concepts are. Keep it up guys
Jacob Geller has a video that mentions the house with leprosy that is really really good. Geller’s videos are really good and the angle the looks at that story from is pretty cool.
Think about it this way. Throughout the whole story Satan is taking away that which Job loves in order to make him curse God and over the course of the whole story he never takes Job's wife. How bad of a wife or person do you have to be that Satan says nope you stay.
Sometimes when things are going good, something always happens whether its my own doing, not paying attention or whatever. Sometimes its just out of the blue, and it smashes the good that was happening and it takes a long time to get back what was there but gone.
23:40 I took "Unclean because of his flow" so differently. I was imagining God telling Moses to say to someone, That they're spitting bars so foul, it has rendered them impure. Unclean because of his flow.
Hey there, love you guys, love the enthusiasm and the positivity. I’m not a religi boi, but i find it quite interesting. I went through a religi search, and was left wanting. Believe what ever make it easier for you to sleep what ever comfort you may choose to lie down with. I personally think that religion is just proto science. It was man’s first attempt to give reason to chaos but like most often first attempts worst attempt. They got lazy and stopped asking why and just started accepting.now all That being said I’m about is going to be offensive, and i mean it that way.What im about to say may be seen as sacrilegious, and I find it totally moral and justified to say that if god does exits and I’m “destined” to live with him eternally in heaven. He better be ready for me to box I’m up for eternity cause I definitely have beef and yes even god can catch these hands
My problem with God's allowances in Job is not on behalf of Job, it's all of his household that gut straight up murdered by Satan for the sake of the test. I never know how to justify that.
I actually really enjoy these twos conversations about Christianity. I was raised roman catholic and had an awful experience the whole time. Me and my mom both leaving the church, she still considers herself Christian but not affiliated with any churches, and while still some of my beliefs connect to Christianity, i consider myself just pegan as i am just kinda my own thing. I am still very interested in Christian beliefs and scripture, even the parts i dont believe at all, and so often if feels like the people talking about it are trying to attack me or convert me. But these two just talk about the scriptures and their thoughts and interpretations. Which is very interesting and insightful, but never feel like im being preeched to or pressured like they think they are sayint i need to act a certain way, just them sharing their way of living. I dont know if that makes sense
With hearing you guys talk about the book of job all I think of is how god had faith in job who had faith in god the most. It wasn’t punishment on job and he knew that. It was a trial. I hope I have a fraction of jobs faith one day
To me Job shows how our understanding of God is so beyond what we can comprehend that we have no place to question his will. His will, his providence is perfect even in our suffering. I also think it teaches that our suffering measured against all of time, all of space and all of reality is insignificant in comparison. When we are in eternity our blip of time and anything bad that happened will be so distant from us it will feel like a dream. Just like something that happened to us when we were 5 years old and we barely remember it even if it at the time it seemed terrible but now when I'm 35 it means nothing. That is what the book of Job teaches me.
So.... the story of Balaam and his donkey is one of my favorites because Balaam does NOT freak out about the donkey talking to him. (Kind of the opposite of what was said) When the donkey asks Balaam why he is beating her, Balaam just yells back at her that she embarrassed him. Only when Balaam sees the angel does he fall on his face in fear. I think it's interesting to think that this man's donkey talked to him and he didn't bat an eye. I think it really speak to (no pun intended) how common "magical" happenings were in that time. Or at the very least how common they were to Balaam.
The Bible Project does an incredible 3 part series on Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Job as Wisdom and how they compare to one another! Absolutely fantastic if you want some more perspective on this topic!
With out suffering and possibility of loss of life the miracles and glory of God wouldn't hit like they do. Unfortunately humans can't process good with out bad.
I went to a Catholic high school and they were always preaching at me instead of doing something like this. It literally made me become an atheist because the way they explained it seemed like a jealous needy almost evil god. This is much better
As someone who really only had negative experience with the church, it’s nice to be able to watch this and sate my curiosity, I may not be a “Christian” but I do know the message of the Bible is a beautiful one and not just one people should throw away cause of the past. Thank you guys, for making studying the Bible a positive thing again.
Jesus loves you
@@Smooth.Operator. Jesus loves you
Sorry you had such a negative experience. I hope you can someday make peace with that and return to the fold brother.
Hey, I don't attend church anymore but I still consider myself a Christian. The narcissistic competitive nature of church leadership and the "select set" of their followers was always elite, in the church at least! I'm too old for that shit of having to explain myself for asking questions.
All the best.
@@alisonj9533 I'll pray you'll be able to find a good local church to attend
These podcasts have helped me finally accept Christianity as my faith. Thank you for the help gentleman, God bless
I hope you decided to take Jesus as your lord and Savior
These podcasts are really important by the way. From both of you, for Christians to be able to see genuinely faithful God fearing men openly discussing their faith while being as visible as you are means a lot and God is most certainly working through you both.
Absolutely 💯!!
I love Wendigoon even more after hearing him talking about his faith. God bless this man
He's a deeply faithful man
@@TheLoreLodge I hope you realize how inspirational and needed both of you young men are. I cant put into words how much 2 men on youtube mean to me, and so many others from what I have read in the comments. In this insane world as it stands, and so many of us with faith has been waning over the years, the goodness of God beams through you both, and fills so many of us with hope and rekindles that spark we all so desperately need. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Much love brothers.
a little over year ago i became so on fire for God, digging deeper into the bible and spent as much time as i could praying and talking with God but i was told by my mentor there would come troubles by getting closer with God. it sounded so silly to me and i would foolishly say “the devil himself couldn’t separate me from God.” i would pray for the strength of Job but a day came where an old..acquaintance came along and she knew my weaknesses, well any man’s true weakness, better than anyone else and she was a slippery slope i couldn’t avoid. it was almost like all of the fire in my heart was put out over a weeks time and i just, well, threw in the towel. it’s crazy how strong Job was in his faith. even i, knowing that i cannot comprehend the true powers of God but do know it is real, find myself struggling to even show my face to God out of shame and embarrassment, which i’m beginning to realize more and more lately is that it’s really pride i’m dealing with. working on my relationship with God again and i cannot help but to look towards Job as an example of true faith, it’s truly amazing. you guys have good chemistry and it made this completely enjoyable and i’m just halfway through it. about that song by Reliant K - Getting Into You, reminded me of when my mentor told me getting closer with God would bring troubles (temptations and such). i would’ve never believed how truly difficult vices and old habits could be to ignore or how much more in my face, apparent, they would become, the more i strengthened my relationship with God. its a beautiful song and reminds me of a song by Exiting the Fall - Father. God be with you both.
not reading all that but i’m happy for you
If I do something naughty, god will turn his back on me, my idol will be disappointed enough to send me to hell to be abused for all eternity, burning in agony, with no relief. But..my dick rules my morals so, meh, nuts to god, let's go get some!!
I'm not sure what aspect of the story is more sad, in all honesty.
I don't understand why your mentor would say that getting close with God is a bad thing. The whole point is to be more virtuous, isn't it? Is it because temptation will follow you the more you follow God? The whole point of sin and temptation is that it's separation from God. You don't need God to find temptation, it's literally everywhere you go. Life will have its tests and tribulations no matter much of a saint or sinner you are. You will find yourself trying to shake off old habits, or cutting off people or things that no longer serve you. I would argue that being more in touch with yourself, your intuition and God is a GOOD thing.
@@ruesylvester well i kindly suggest you read what i said again, my mentor never said it’s a bad thing to draw closer to God, just that it brings troubles. i’ll refer you to one verse my mentor would cite, 1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour”. i believe wholeheartedly the devil knows our vices and our weaknesses, and uses them against us. that is what he was warning me about. he wasn’t suggesting i should he worried or afraid of living God, or even advising that i shouldn’t because it was dangerous. he was just saying that with coming closer with God, you pose a greater threat to the devil and his dealings. just by trying to live your life according to the Spirit, there is an untold amount of people you may have a dramatic affect on in their life and change them for the better. i agree, being in tune with God is 100% a good thing. there’s a song i like that goes “if loving you is putting me in danger, than i never want to be safe.” God be with you bro.
@@TristanAD_ thanks for clarifying. i understand what you mean now. the devil’s got nothing on me tho. no matter how much darkness i may go through, i know that there is always a light at the end of the tunnel. i will always rise up. and that’s something i wish i could give to everyone on this planet. i want everyone to succeed.
For the question being asked at 3:05:30, I once heard someone say "Just because people lie about the Bible doesn't mean the Bible lies about God" and I feel like that encapsulates the heart of the matter. People do evil in God's name, but that doesn't mean God wants it or approves of it
“The road to Hell is paved with the bones of priests and monks, and the skulls of bishops are the lamp posts that light the path.”
-St. John Chrysostom
@@13StJimmy fuck me that's a good quote.
So...when God gives instructions for how to ritualistically game end babies conceived by cheating that isn't evil approved by him?
This is so important to me, especially because I'm not a Christian. I have a friend who kinda shits on organized religion but especially Christianity. Now, it's usually when there's news of children being abused by priests and stuff, so I get it. But it's discuaging to listen to someone condense everything down to the actions of the few.
It's stuff like this that gives me a greater appreciation for something I would ortherwise not really be able to understand.
Every organized institution has one very serious weakness, allowing evil people to exploit it. That weakness being certain reputation and power coming with certain achievements. That's why there happen horrible things you've mentioned. Also people focusing on that, while ignoring literally every other institution, that allows adults being alone with children for long periods of time, riddled with the same crime - doesn't help.
Bible never claims that everyone, who has position in Church, is a saint. Furthermore, it warns about numbers of false shepherds increasing as times go on. So it's an issue, yes, and exactl;y because of that issue (and many others) we, humans, need to be saved.
BTW, i'm not even Catholic, and can criticize some practices, which i deem un-Biblical, that lead to increased numbers of such horrible acts, but let's be real, even with every improvement i'd see as positive, there still would be predators, like they are in kindergardens, schools, orphanages, pediatric hospitals and etc. I don';t think we should advocate for all of those institutions to cease to exist, just because those positions, that help improve lives of millions, can be taken over by evil individuals.
The church =/= Christianity. I'm a Christian but I idk the pope and stuff around him seems kinda satanic imo.
Just two beautiful dudes being awesome bros helping eachother and all of us stay on the path. Absolutely tremendous.
Honestly feel like I've been getting more prayers answered than I deserve recently. Like it's small stuff like "I want to see more dogs today" or "I want to see my little sister." I feel far more blessed than I deserve. I know it's tiny stuff but I can't help but get slightly teary-eyed. It was a hard time last year and I can't help but be thankful for these tiny prayers answered. I know it's off topic but I wanted to thank you guys for pushing me that slightest bit to pray and talk with God. I know he doesn't talk physically but it's the best way to describe how I pray.
“I want to see more dogs today” will now become part of daily prayer for me.
@TH-ul1kf I honestly forgot about this comment until I saw this in the notification, lol. Also, slight update he must've been tired of sending dogs my way cause I now got one.
@@doomslayer2290 this is a more faith strengthening, hope filling story than the movie heaven is for real😂
I've been struggling with a lot of stuff in my faith recently and I cannot express how much you guys and your videos have helped me. It literally feels like these videos were made specifically in response to my problems and I just want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart. Love you two so much
I’ve been feeling quite the same with my faith, it’s nice to know i’m not the only one. I feel so guilty for struggling :( these videos are really a God send
1 to 1 with me lol
Man y’all about made me cry in the middle of work with this episode, I’ve always had questions like these and y’all answered them perfectly. The whole Bible podcast y’all do are amazing, I hope we can get the both of you some more.
As a very naughty young man who has just made it back to faith, it's calming and inspiring to hear two intelligent young men talk about their own experiences. Thank you.
Moral of the story: Job was built different 💪
He was just built different fr
Could we have gotten that without innocent people dying and his life being ruined over a bet?
My favorite quote from a movie is, “Everything will be alright in the end, if it is not alright, then it is not yet the end…” (The Best Marigold Hotel)
Edit: slight fix of quote.
My favourite 2d animated movie is prince of Egypt very underrated
Amen!! 🙏✝️💖
I really appreciate these podcasts. I grew up in a very abusive home in every manner imaginable that was also devoutly and strictly religious. I fell away from the faith and don’t know if I’ll ever be able to turn back as I’m comfortable not knowing what is out there and just living my life to be the best human I can be. But it is very cool to listen and learn about the bible in a way my pastors and family were never able to accomplish in church. These are really well done and very helpful, informative, and entertaining for me. I look forward to the next one, even if I can’t catch the live bc of my work schedule.
this podcast reinvigorated my interest into the Bible again making it so intriguing and how history is tied to it all
It's wild how good of a podcast this actually is. I needed a new way to get back into this stuff and this is the best way.
I want Wendigoon to do a "The Cosmic Horror of the Bible Series". The Jesus Chirst x H.P. Lovecraft crossover is long overdue!
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There’s an author/pastor named CR Wiley is working on this. His other books are on Tom Bombadil, masculinity, and “The Household and the War for the Cosmos.”
I expressed my curiosity about the Bible to one of my elderly clients today. And she told me Job is something I such start with. And now I got recommended this, so that’s kinda neat of TH-cam to do.
I had a similar experience as Wendigoon. The night my grandfather died I had a dream he came to me and it was hyper realistic and a very rewarding/fulfilling experience to say the least. His main message to me was "don't worry this is all part of it."
The Book of Job was my favorite as a emo teenager. Still look to it as an adult to make sure
I didn't know about this channel before Wendigoon's Missing 411 video, but I'm so glad I found it. These are the types of conversations that I hope to be knowledgeable enough to have with my friends (and strangers, anyone who will listen, really) some day. Keep up the good work!
Episode starts at 5:41 for all my fellow vod watchers :)
Thank you, fellow watcher
you are a good man. Thank you
Really enjoyed this podcast! If I don't meet you both here on Earth, I'm looking forward to seeing you guys in the clouds one day with the big man!
I really appreciate what y’all are doing with this series. I’ve been having a rough time with life recently, and have fallen quite far away from Christ, but y’all have reinvigorated my interest in studying scripture and I really appreciate that. Keep up the good work y’all are doing. You’re genuinely helping people.
I like that the thumbnail is a double entendre, because if "Job" is pronounced differently, and instead of the proper noun is taken as a noun, it's calling The Devil a Jobber (someone who consistently loses a lot) which is both amusing and woefully accurate.
I discovered this channel through wendigoon, and now I have so much content to keep me entertained since my job has me driving a lot. Keep sharing the good word of the Lord our God!
i want to say, this podcast has helped me alot. givin me alot to think about. i havent read through the bible because it is hard to me to do so, or i am lacking the will to do so, but this podcast helps me learn scripture and it also explains it in a way i might not think about. i do alot of thinking, id consider myself a philosopher in a way, i will ponder things i know about the bible but i know not everything, so this helps me learn more and more over time i a way i can digest. this is a very important podcast and im glad i found it, ill be listening whenever possible. love you guy!
- Cujo
Thank you! That's the kind of thing that makes this all really special to the two of us. Being able to help people explore their faith without fear of judgement for asking questions is very important to us.
Isaiah spoke really beautifully about stewardship of nature and how our choices affect other people, and I wish there would be more emphasis on stuff like that in mainstream christian discourse. Especially in the US I think, but pretty much everywhere we would benefit from thinking about our responsibility to tend to our shared home and do concrete things according to that responsibility
Thank you guys for this channel! - having a platform that delves deeper into the Bible, I’m a new born Christian and this has aided me in understanding the scriptures better. Big cheers to you guys! 🎉
I genuinely just enjoy listening to all the podcasts and your rambles. But I have to be honest, this one was really special. I've been deepdiving into the Bible since last year. I was baptised exactly a year ago in two days. And since then, have been suffering. Greatly. So Job has been a huge inspiration. Also, my favourite prophet is Isaiah. I've experienced God speaking to me through the book of Isaiah. So now He speaks also to me through TH-camr Isaiah. Which, I mean, touché Kyrios, touché.
Congratulations on your baptism!
the 4 year old with cancer part punched me right in both my eyes
Its wild to me that most Christians havent read the bible, like on their own accord. I remember as a child going to a supermarket and buying my own bible because christianity was constantly shoved down my throat and I wanted to fully understand the book it was all about. But I think it comes down to humans just accepting what their told to believe, tho this subject is a weird one considering children get indoctrinated before they learn to question the world.
I guess shout out to my aunts and grandmothers who constantly read their bible, even to the point one of my grandmothers kept my picture in her bible when she was dying with dementia, really let's you know that she kept her grandbabies as close as she did her god lol
I love these guys. The remark about the house is living.. I have an experience that correlates deeply with that. My old home was full of abuse, my sister was a devil worshipper and basically anything you could think, it had been committed there. It was an evil house, you could feel it
And it got to the point that I had gotten physically sick from living there. After moving into a place we knew was normal- I never felt that evil ever again
I’m not religious but I believe in God and I like listening to these guys
So the entire Jobs wife thing, I’ve always thought of it that she’s a grieving mother who lashed out because of the pain of the loss of her kids. Not saying it’s right, but it makes me a little more sympathetic to her
His entire family was killed when his house collapsed, including the mother of his children. It’s his second wife who says to give up.
@@AspireC137That actually makes it even worse.
@@Prodigi50 if i remember correctly in the bible his wife is not mentioned at any point been dead so she could be same wife
"Job's wife" is the same person as Lot's wife, and this is the same event as when she turned into a pillar of salt...
@@Highspergamy no?? Job and Lot are two different men in two different times. Sodom and Gomorrah is way after Job
Cool series I hadn't seen it until now ...you have to love the story of Job. It's so relatable
Should I be concerned about you...?
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve lost all my sheep and oxen to satan
@@kadentrig8178 same bro, it just KEEPS HAPPENING.
Would like to say Wendigoon is a huge inspiration to me as a human being. I discovered you through conspiracy theory stuff and learned that you’re a Christian as I was raised as one too shortly afterward and not only do I enjoy all of your content but I’ve also learned a lot of insight from hearing you talk about your faith as well. I’ve always been pretty sure of my faith but hearing others talk about their opinions and interpretations of stuff has only strengthened it and made me feel closer to god as well. Wendibussy
Wendigoons helped me strengthen my faith and get me actively reading the bible again, its really encouraging to have other young guys similar to you discussing it on the internet
Same here man! Also that last word is sus
"Wendibussy"... We are already in hell, as it seems.
@@kakhakheviashvili6365 yep
Thank you for covering the book of job. I've always struggled to understand it, even as a lifelong Lutheran. The comforting message it brings as well is definitely one I needed to hear after the absolute disaster of a week I had. I'm glad I found this podcast.
Also, I'm very much looking forward to that bible cosmic horror video, Wendigoon.
As someone who personally was raised Catholic, not religious whatsoever but open in understanding not just Judeo-Christian religion but all forms of religious beliefs thereof, it's fascinating seeing a breakdown of these books and what they represent, what they can teach and even what fun cosmic horrors await us mere mortals.
41:11 made me think of the tower of babel discussion and summed up the old testament as the "imma fight god, damn, god got hands" meme, also i'm pro predestination on the fact that god is all powerful but am definitely against the laziness approach many people take with it, its a very complicated thing thats impossible to grapple in its entirety and we will never understand until we go and be with the lord
59:43 my old Bible study group in college jokingly tossed around the idea of doing Old Testament style sacrifices with stuffed animals in those windowed study rooms just to freak people out. That would be my suggestion.
I love it.
God is a caring omnipotent father who loves you so much he'll allow his advisory to torture you to prove how much you want to be by God's side 😭 beautiful
For the discussion at around 1:15:00, my pastor said that he is thankful for the tough season, because in those seasons, God is teaching us things that we will need in later seasons of life
I'm halfway through the video
I agree with pretty much everything you guys have been saying
I'm really enjoying this
My only "but" is how you portrayed Job's "award" (I guess) for his suffering as his legacy, or how he will be viewed through out history as God's most faithful servant
I think suffering in general and the outcome of suffering should be for God's glory, and God's glory alone
I don't think Job's gift was his legacy
But rather, being allowed the opportunity to show God's glory through the life he lived
I found you through Wendigoon's Missing 411 video. I binge all of your video and is working my way through the podcast. I dont agree with some of your worldview and attitude but I really enjoy listening to you talk. Keep being you man.
I love these guys and I think healthy discussion concerning God and the Bible is welcomed by God and helps our understanding of our faith. However and I'm sure this goes without saying but as a person who has been a Christian for the last 40 years take what they both say with a grain of salt. While they get most things correct some of their ideas and opinions that they sometimes state as fact is way off base and not true or biblical in the least. I say this only to new Christians and people on the fence. Again just be careful and make sure to read your Bible, do your own research, read biblical scholars and compare and contrast so you get the actual objective truth God is trying to convey through his word. Again I say this with love and respect for both of these gentlemen because they are extremely intelligent and beautiful human beings!! 🙏💖✝️
Just found you guys! Psyched to binge 🙌🏻✝️
Ive rewatched all of these at least a dozen times and since I’m going through it I thought this would give me a bit of perspective
Something interesting about Job that is often kind of glossed over is Job 1:6. God apparently just assembles his angles for meetings like it’s a corporate office or something which is weird enough to think about. Then add in the fact that Satan apparently is either invited to the meetings, or at least is told when and where they’ll be. And at least on one occasion, but perhaps frequently, he showed up to the meeting. Angels don’t appear to be omnipresent or omniscient or anything, so God either invited him or let him know about this meeting. Weird to think about because I always imagine them to be so separated, but apparently they’ll just strike up a conversation all casual like. Anyway, excited for the next episode, wish this was weekly.
Yeah the relationship between the two is very interesting, particularly in Job
Heyo, I was born Catholic and have since… separated myself from Christianity, especially it’s organized form. I’ve leaned toward Norse paganism and Judaism and every which way until just really deciding that I think it’s all pretty nifty. I really used to love reading the Bible as a kid tho, the Old Testament particularly, and as I’ve grown I’ve kinda just moved away from the Bible. But I’m getting back into it now with the same kinda vigor and fascination that I have for other religious texts, because I’m not being forced. This kind of analysis right here? I love it. So thanks you guys, this is content even a non-specific religious person can enjoy.
2:56:50 Paradise Lost is a great example of how to handle him. He is humanized, but definitely not a "good guy". You can understand his reasoning, but you comprehend his delusion and lies. I do agree with Wendi regarding his take that most people misunderstand the purpose behind his depiction however. Lucifer is portrayed there as tempting, relatable, and in some ways grey not because he has good in him, but because evil is seductive and the Devil is sly.
Fantastic discussion as always gentlemen. Always looking forward to whatever both of you guys put out next
happy to see you finally talk about the best Arrested Development character ❤
I am new to both of your channels, and love this discussion. I think the major theme in the story of Job (as you said) is just surrendering to your faith in God no matter how bad things get. It's easy for humans to think of religions as "transactional" in that "person prays to God and gets good things" or conversely "if a person does bad things then bad things should happen to them". So when bad things happen to good people the first inclination is to ask "what did I do to deserve this?" I was taught that evil was brought into the world by man's sin and this Earthly life is a battleground for our souls. If God would stop every bad situation then it would diminish the value of free will but also bad situations are opportunities for good people to exercise their free will to do good in the world. There are many situations in which our free will is the choice between relying on the spiritual self or giving into the animal in which we inhabit. An old priest once told me, "The measure of a man is how well he controls the animal in which he lives."
yesssss more of these please, wish they came out more often
Ok, maybe it was a while since you've read Book of Job, guys, but wasn't the point of his friends' speeches that Job is suffering because of his sins? They try to make him confess in his sins in different ways, but overall each one of them thinks that what happened to Job is a fruit of his sins, and that he should admit it, confess and repent. And Job grows increasingly frustrated with them, because he knows he didn't sin (and he was correct in that). And that banter with different arguments continued for too long until God told all of them that it's basically not their job (heh) to question God and His actions. They can't even comprehend things that are on their nose, let alone God Himself as well as His actions.
Book of Job is actually a lesson that bad things may happen to good people, and if you gave your life to Him, you just have to accept, that sometime you can be used as an instrument to improve condition of others. And that in the end of the day God Himself will tend to His suffering children, delivering them.
It ultimately challenges the idea of "if you do bad, bad things happen to you, if you do good - good things happen to you". And while that simplistic idea can be true to some limited extent, it's definitely not how material universe, Earth, works. Especially, well, since everyone sinned and deserves death, so by the simplistic idea i've mentioned above, everyone deserves bad things happening to them by default. So even as perfect of a human as Job was, deserves punishment, and thus salvation can come not through good deeds and rituals, but through grace and mercy of God.
Hey youtube! To wedi and aiden, I appreciate you two and look up to you a lot. Thank you for helping me with my walk with faith. I’ve been having a lot of struggles and y’all have genuinely helped me get closer to the good ol sky daddy. Keep up the great work guys, y’all are up to really dope things my dudes 👉😎👉
This podcast is one of the few times I can say I was blessed by being on the internet. These guys are amazing
1:38:00 Christian metal is the best. Golden Resurrection is fantastic neo-classical power metal and of course the OG Christian metal band, Stryper!!
Starts at 5:41
Thanks!
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You don’t like the long drawn out comedic intros? Haha
Am loving this!!! Thank you guys. And I know God has a sense of humor …. And loves to hear us laugh!
I thank the lord that I found out two of my favorite youtubers know each other and do a podcast like this ❤
I wish I could get in on the live stream but all those dang real world grown up responsibilities get in the way of doing whatever I want! Dag nabbit!
Either way, keep up the awesome work you guys!
Job was the first book of the bible I read all the way through when I was younger and it's always been my favorite book,what from it back then was we will go through some crap but just hang on an their will be blessings better then what you already had. And it also shows how "satan" or principalities can use people in our lives to not only influence you but to get you to go against God too. ( Like how he used Jobs wife)
This book has soooo much in it tho. So I pray everyone gets blessed with curiosity and unpacks it ❤
Love this series guys, keep them coming.....maybe twice a month lol
Can't believe I have to wait a while month for another one of these.
Have you seen the previous four?
@@TheLoreLodge yes, guess I'll have to rewatch! Love the chemistry and knowledge yall bring. Struggling with my faith so these are amazing for me
Ayy! One of my favorite podcasts has a new episode!
Thank you for these videos.
2:09:17 Not trying to be offensive but the minute i heard this, the first thing that came to my head is that brother died from cringe bottom text
Love the podcast, from a non religious person, i agree, the Story of Creation/ the Bible is the greatest story ever told. Many parts make me cry because how beautiful the concepts are.
Keep it up guys
I love the duality of Wendy getting excited to talk about God and guns lol
Jacob Geller has a video that mentions the house with leprosy that is really really good. Geller’s videos are really good and the angle the looks at that story from is pretty cool.
What a coincidence! I've been reading Job this month!!!
Think about it this way. Throughout the whole story Satan is taking away that which Job loves in order to make him curse God and over the course of the whole story he never takes Job's wife. How bad of a wife or person do you have to be that Satan says nope you stay.
Lol I missed that part but man just goes to show that no matter how much of a good person you are you can still make bad decisions
A tare.
I'm pretty sure his wife dies too and he finds a new wife...?
Sometimes when things are going good, something always happens whether its my own doing, not paying attention or whatever. Sometimes its just out of the blue, and it smashes the good that was happening and it takes a long time to get back what was there but gone.
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I took "Unclean because of his flow" so differently. I was imagining God telling Moses to say to someone, That they're spitting bars so foul, it has rendered them impure. Unclean because of his flow.
Hey there, love you guys, love the enthusiasm and the positivity. I’m not a religi boi, but i find it quite interesting. I went through a religi search, and was left wanting. Believe what ever make it easier for you to sleep what ever comfort you may choose to lie down with. I personally think that religion is just proto science. It was man’s first attempt to give reason to chaos but like most often first attempts worst attempt. They got lazy and stopped asking why and just started accepting.now all That being said I’m about is going to be offensive, and i mean it that way.What im about to say may be seen as sacrilegious, and I find it totally moral and justified to say that if god does exits and I’m “destined” to live with him eternally in heaven. He better be ready for me to box I’m up for eternity cause I definitely have beef and yes even god can catch these hands
It was amazing. Thanks to both of you for this quality content.
My problem with God's allowances in Job is not on behalf of Job, it's all of his household that gut straight up murdered by Satan for the sake of the test. I never know how to justify that.
Not so much that even the righteous suffer, you may just be getting fridged for one of God's "specials."
That's because you can't.
Dang, the one day I go out I miss the stream. Hopefully I can catch the next one
I actually really enjoy these twos conversations about Christianity. I was raised roman catholic and had an awful experience the whole time. Me and my mom both leaving the church, she still considers herself Christian but not affiliated with any churches, and while still some of my beliefs connect to Christianity, i consider myself just pegan as i am just kinda my own thing.
I am still very interested in Christian beliefs and scripture, even the parts i dont believe at all, and so often if feels like the people talking about it are trying to attack me or convert me. But these two just talk about the scriptures and their thoughts and interpretations. Which is very interesting and insightful, but never feel like im being preeched to or pressured like they think they are sayint i need to act a certain way, just them sharing their way of living. I dont know if that makes sense
what a great episode! it was very informative
With hearing you guys talk about the book of job all I think of is how god had faith in job who had faith in god the most. It wasn’t punishment on job and he knew that. It was a trial. I hope I have a fraction of jobs faith one day
we need taylor murka from pka to join this series. his Bible stories are great
That would be funny
1:36:59 YO! This is the first time I’ve heard a TFK reference in a YT video! I was a massive fan of them in high school
To me Job shows how our understanding of God is so beyond what we can comprehend that we have no place to question his will. His will, his providence is perfect even in our suffering. I also think it teaches that our suffering measured against all of time, all of space and all of reality is insignificant in comparison. When we are in eternity our blip of time and anything bad that happened will be so distant from us it will feel like a dream. Just like something that happened to us when we were 5 years old and we barely remember it even if it at the time it seemed terrible but now when I'm 35 it means nothing. That is what the book of Job teaches me.
So.... the story of Balaam and his donkey is one of my favorites because Balaam does NOT freak out about the donkey talking to him. (Kind of the opposite of what was said) When the donkey asks Balaam why he is beating her, Balaam just yells back at her that she embarrassed him. Only when Balaam sees the angel does he fall on his face in fear.
I think it's interesting to think that this man's donkey talked to him and he didn't bat an eye. I think it really speak to (no pun intended) how common "magical" happenings were in that time. Or at the very least how common they were to Balaam.
The donkey was a person.
The Bible Project does an incredible 3 part series on Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Job as Wisdom and how they compare to one another! Absolutely fantastic if you want some more perspective on this topic!
Very good podcast, pls do the whole Bible and stay based.
Hey i know im a year late but thanks for covering the book of Job. Im actually named after him so im partial to the story
35:40 Where can I find this post and read this? “…we are not ready” This sort of thing fascinates me.
Sadly didn’t get notified. Would have loved to be live.
You guys have got me talking to Jesus!
" pointing out a sin is a sin is way worse than committing said sin". Ahh, woke Christianity. About time
God bless you
It took less than a minute and a half for wendigoon to talk about giants
You should cover Ecclesiastes next!!!! 🙏🙏🙏😁
He that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
This was a great episode! And thanks for answering my question lol :) ~
With out suffering and possibility of loss of life the miracles and glory of God wouldn't hit like they do. Unfortunately humans can't process good with out bad.
Wasn't aware of the women's group job's daughters. Neat-o.
I went to a Catholic high school and they were always preaching at me instead of doing something like this. It literally made me become an atheist because the way they explained it seemed like a jealous needy almost evil god. This is much better
This show just rules