Can a Suzuki SV650 BEAT a Ducati Monster? Best Sport Naked Motorcycles!
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I own 2017 model and love it, amazing bike
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I can’t be the only who thinks the sv650x is one of the nicest looking bikes on the market right now
i agree
I agree, and I don't even like neo retro bikes. But it just looks nice.
@@xMarik96 its a more reliable monster :)
If only they'd make a 1000cc version of it again.
I just bought one 2 weeks ago as my first motorcycle and couldn't agree more. I was set on an MT07 or Z650 until I walked into the dealership and saw the sv650x. Just need to slip-on a smaller exhaust and it will look even better.
at 73 and with 50 years on 2 wheels i just bought a used sv650, it was a cream puff, 12k mi. all original, garage kept on a batt. tender. the owner even had a complete set of soft luggage he thru into the deal, he offered to follow me home rather than install all the voodoo straps. i love this bike....no it's not a vfr, which is what i have ridden since the late 80's when i got a slightly used '86 750. being a gen 2 bike the throttle is way more sensitive than i like and the compression braking way stronger than i'm used too. it takes some getting used too. i have the on throttle figured out but i find myself slowing down to much setting up for curves. after 2 weeks of ridding i still love it and i'm glad i bought it. thanks for your input, i watched at least one of your reviews before my purchase and i used it to prevent myself from buying a k 750 i had promised to buy when i turned 60......still not ready for a pokey old guy bike. :)
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Loved my old 2011 M696. My favorite bike I've ever owned. Had so much character.
Just test drove one today with 2 termigonis. She rocked my world.
@@emirbenaissa3441 I got the chance to ride a tricked out M696 with twin termigonis exhaust...the higher you go in the rpm the more your feet get a massage lol
My 2010 M696 is my favorite as well. Had an SV650, I don't miss it one bit. If you buy a Monster you will never think about a SV.
What happened to it? Reliability issues?
@@Spartansrule118 No, it was very reliable for the time that I owned it. I owned it way back in 2013 when I was young and dumb and bought too expensive of a motorcycle for my small entry level salary. I ended up leaving that job because management was terrible and had to sell the 696 because it was financed. I buy all my bikes in cash now, so my Concours 1400 and Z125 are paid off. The 696 was a super special bike with tons of Italian character… but my 1400 is a much better bike in almost every way other than weight.
Yamm, after watching your vids for a while I bought a 2017 SV650A. Could not be happier. put a Yoshimura Alpha carbon slip-on on it, and it sounds like a Ducati v-twin. If anyone is on the fence about buying an SV over a MT07, or the other 650's in the class. they are are good bikes , but the SV650 has an awesome factory suspension, sounds great with an aftermarket pipe, is bulletproof reliable, easy to service, and I think it looks sexy as well.
Thank you guys for the cool review! I thought at first, well this is going to be one of those tests where the conclusion is like 'one is a better all rounder and the other one is prettier and more exclusive' but I am glad to report it was *not* the case.
We need more of these. Keep 'em coming.
I ride a 797 Monster and believe you would find it to be a similarly analog and rewarding bike. After having a Triumph Speed Twin, I really appreciate the cable throttle linkage. I wish the manufacturers would realize that the throttle is our primary control touchpoint, and needs to be a visceral connection to the bike.
I bought a 2003 SV650 N for 2000€ a few weeks ago as my first bike, I couldn't be happier with any other bike.
Stay Safe . I did a highsider on mine because of the non existent traction Control ..
@@DrKampfpudding Downshift without throttle blip?
@@UnknownRider-eg1nl nah. Full throttle knee down Out of a Corner .
I Must also say that my tire was pretty hot and worn . I Rode all day and was good . But the tire wasnt Up to IT anymore.
IT was a wrong move by me which a traction Control could have prevented
( Shoulder surgery)
I bought a 2003 Suzuki SV650s second hand for AU $3700 as my fifth bike and I'm damn happy with it it too.
@@DrKampfpudding worn hot tire, traction control? It was the tire...it was the lack of rider aids...listen to yourself man, take responsibility for rider input error. There's no question about bikes of that era even having fancy electronic controls so that really doesn't belong in the conversation at all.
i had a 2004 sv 650s owned it for seven years and had no regrets. reliable, characterful and fun, enough poke to get a shift on, but not too much as to get you into too much trouble.
I've been waiting for someone to make a decent vid comparing these two. Thank you!
Just bought a 95 CB250 Nighthawk as my first bike, thanks for all the tips and knowledge papa yam. More than excited to start my motorcycling journey
I swapped my way into a 2002 sv650s to get back into riding after 20 years between bikes. Love it! Really can't go wrong with a sv650.
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I'm in love with my sv650 from 2005 bought last year with 35000miles and its not even my first bike or the most powerful. Theres something about the sv...
I own a SV650S 2010 model and I love it, it just runs and runs without problems, I reckon it can run for another 100Km no problems
Absolutely liked this review/comparo. Please do more
Gotta give the Duc the thumbs up. Love "Character" in my rides... that is the reason why I love my Moto Guzzi's so much...
Bikes aside, I loved the edit/production quality of this video! My two new hobbies: cameras and motorcycles. I own neither 😂 but I like that this channel checks those two boxes for me.
Happy that you were able to hop onto a Ducati after suffering through that 883 for everyone, you deserved this, you are a hero. A good man. How does the 803cc engine in your Sled feel compared to this 696?
Yes, finally more of the sweet wholesome beginner bike giveaway content
So many great bikes being given away! The SV, the MT03, Groms!! Ugh would love any of these, all a fantastic ride ♡.♡
@@marcusgeorge1825 but the MT03, Husky 401, and the little Groms in the giveaway could all be used as beginner bikes. The SV is the only one actually in the giveaway that would be a bit much for a brand new rider. Have never been on one of the Huskys but the 401 does slide in at 43 bhp making it just inside the range you listed.
@@marcusgeorge1825 it also depends where u live. In America there is no A2 laws so if someone really wanted they could start on a KTM Superduke 1090
@@marcusgeorge1825 you mean the auto weapons that were banned in the 80’s?
I absolutely adore my M659, especially after the de-restriction. Hilarious machine.
Another great comparison review. Thanks!
Love my 650x. Plenty of power to have fun, not to much to where it is easy to get in trouble. Use mine for ripping twisties and taking on tours. Couldn't ask for a better sport-tour set up.
Might I add, also the best sounding v-twin IMO. Quiet in low rpms and pleasantly loud at 6k and higher.
I bought a crashed 02 SV650s at a auction. It had been dumped. I replaced 3 turn signals & rear brake lever. Bought some touch up paint. It now looks good and works perfect. I have a nice bike for next to nothing in the way of $$$$$$. I have friends who buy a new Harley and the decide riding is not 4 them and sell it a year later losing most of their $$$$$$. You can get a nice used SV 650 cheap and they are very reliable.
had a ducati monster 696 in the past. absolute nightmare of a bike reliability wise. However, not gonna lie, I am missing it and I never regret ever getting it. The bike was an experience every time you get on it whenever it worked; especially with a vance and hines exhaust. After having many other bikes, nothing still compares to the excitement you get when it starts up and when its roaring away at high revs.
What went wrong on it?
@@Spartansrule118 belt pulleys collapsed causing catastrophic engine failure, , coils went 3x and a host of electrical issues. If you buy one make sure you have funds for when something goes wrong.
@@javancena6780 which year was this bike?
@@Spartansrule118 can't remember, believe it was a 12
I would go with the Suzuki because A) water cooled and B) I have multiple dealerships in my area who sell Suzuki and can service it.
Very comprehensive and just right video, thank u
Nobody ever mentions that the SV650x has adjustable front forks, unlike the standard.
Nice video guys 👌 I arrived at these two exact bikes recently when considering buying my dream bike. A brand new SV650X or a second hand Monster 696 🤔 I chose the white Monster 696 in the end. It's just a work of art when you see it in the flesh.
love the vids...so much infos to look at. i'm on the budget SV is for me
I own a 2001 SV650S next to a Tuono, just for fun and commuting. Dang, the thing is a blast 😎👍
If I was going to rent a bike for fun for a day, I would get the Ducati , but if I have to live with the bike and own it and pay for its maintenance and be concerned about its reliability, then I have to go with the Suzuki.
Hey yammy I've been following your channel for a while now and I'm proud to let you know I'm now officially a baby squid. Thanks for keeping the fire burning until I got mine 👌🏾
Love the SV650X. If I was younger, didn't want the luggage a lot of us older people like to have on our bikes now, and was going to be riding 1 up most of the time, it would be pretty much the perfect bike for me.
I solved this issue by having a sport tourer for the 25% of time I want the bags, the fairing and the 300mile fuel stops...then got a small naked for the hooligan that still lives deep under the giant beard and generous launch. Buy one or the other used and you can still come out ok.
@@michaelkrenzer3296 I totally agree. My current bike is a 1988 Suzuki Katana 1100 with the optional luggage that was offered back then. It's still a good bike and quite comfortable for touring 2 up even 32 years and 114,000km later.
Something like that SV650X would make a great fun bike for when I just want to go out for a bit of fun on my own.
@@timsretirementjourney8323 for me it is a 1997 Concours and just purchased Kawasaki z400. I don't do two up but can motorcycle camp and rip off multiple 500+ miles days on one then do a week's worth of shopping. The other...it's just to go blow the cobwebs out. Bonus of the "only" 400cc machine is it is easy to have that fun and less than license losing speeds.
@@michaelkrenzer3296 My youngest brother just bought an older Concours after his last bike being a full dress Harley. I think the Concours is around a '97 too and he's really liking it.
It's not his first Concours, so he knew just what he wanted to go back to after selling the Harley.
That Zook still needs to be run in! Once it hits 1000kms it will be smoother and have a little more go.
Wow they sounds almost the same 😲 good comparison thank you guys...❤️
Keep up your amazing content Yam, subcribed! -frazee X
Owned a 17 SV650 for 3 years, has more power and sounds better than the duc. Handles exceptionally well especially with the right tyres. Stopped in at ducati dealer and convinced myself to maybe upgrade to a m659 or m797. Had a test ride on the m797... Throttle was mild compared to my sv650. It turned the same. However I like the ducs more modern suspension and those brembos are way better than my 2 pot nisfins. However the new sv650 had front brake upgrade. All up I decided my SV650 is better so I kept it. Ducati 821 would be the obvious upgrade over the sv650 not the m659/m797.
I just bought a '01 Ducati Monster 900 back in April as my first bike, it was a passion purchase but I absolutely love it, it's the only bike I've ever had so I can't compare, but it is so much fun to ride!!
That’s all that matters, have fun with that maintenance bill, aside from that have fun ride safe.
My wife rides a 2012 M696 that looks just like that. White body black frame. I got it new for her years ago. It's been a great bike for her and I ride it all the time. Nice smooth power delivery, comfortable as can be, and gets out of it's own way pretty quick. It's not the fastest out there but it is definitely a fun bike.
What’s the reliability like? Could a beginner ride it?
Hey, I have a ‘13 monster 796 and love it. Taller than the 696 which is good for me and more power. It was a little twitchy in 1st when I got it, added a throttle tamer which helped a lot, maybe that one has it too. Also running parelli diablos for tires
I have an ‘11 696... i changed out the slave to a Oberon one and its smoothed it out quite a bit
Monster 796 gang.
So glad I got my Sv650!! Absolutely satisfied for my first bike.
how old are you, and how much was INSURANCE ?!
Topshelf Junior 28 I’m 80 a month !!!
@@Search3232 Word ! I just called my insurance, they said if I got it my insurance would be $675 a month. I also been w/ my insurance people foreever, AAA so... I dunno. Probably gonna get an SV650.
But I got decent coverage thru them. Definitely check that site out !
I was hesitant between an SV650 like this one or an M796. I've had my license for 10 years, spent 7 on an M600 and 2 on an 02 SV650. I went for a 2017 SV and I gotta say I change my mind pretty much everyday lol. Some days I'm happy I went for the reliable economical and still very fun and good looking SV, others I just wish I had that Ducati character, handling and look again. I might go for a clean example M796 as my next bike but I'm still afraid of the reliability since I've had my fair share of problems with the 600 even though the 796 has a pretty good reputation. I do around 5-6000 miles a year and use my bike to commute quite often. If anyone has owned a 796 for some time I'd love a feedback!
As a Italian and love the Ducati, I would pick the Suzuki...
I do have a Suzuki dl650 strom and love it and a Triumph T120 and love it to....thank you for the video. 👍
That Triumph T120 is my dream bike. I’m actually considering the Triumph or the SV650. I know the power is better on the SV650 but the Triumph Bonneville is such a beautiful and sexy bike. If you had to choose between the two, which would you choose?
P.S. I’d be going with the T100
@@sjktico It is a beautiful bike the T120 and it was one of my dream bike to own i recently sold the T120 and kept the Suzuki Strom it is a better ride for me.
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Will you be doing a full exhaust on the Suzuki? That Header pipe seems wrong?
The Duc header pipe is tucked up tight to the bike.
Great video guys👍
Great vid! But can us dirt bois get some content on your new ktm? Lol
my first bike was a 600ish duc. no regrets. loved it.
What a palette cleanser after that Harley video, and i'm only 10 seconds in.
Like 2 scoops of sorbet after a large meal.
pickled ginger and kimchi between dishes
What this fawkin guy said ahh!
I'm flicking my bean to an sv650 with clip ons
Yammie called the 2012 monster raw my dad had a 900ie from 2000 and just upgraded to a monster 821 from 2020. He felt a huge different in how raw they are compared to one and other.
Love it! Wish Yamaha would make a 90dvtwin in full race mode
Suzuki and Honda too
I learned riding from 796. Then end up choosing between mt7 and sv650. Chose the mt07 as the sv650 looks very similar to 796. Mt07 fun engine but the limiting factor is the suspension but for my use the suspension of mt07 is adequate enough.
Im really considering the monster 696 as my first bike its always been one of the motorcycles that got me into motorcycles
I’ll take one of each. Thank you.
Yo the Angel GTs are phenomenal.
I know Ducatis are on the pricier side, but id love to see even maybe a used one on a giveaway sometime, they just have such a nice vibe to them
As a new rider in the UK i looked at these and similar bikes and opted for a Suzuki gsr750 (NOT GSX) but I can't find many vids on this bike... although I think it's a great first big all rounder and anyone I know who has one or knows someone who has one says they're great!
Great video, thank you.
the aprilia shiver 900 is the best middleweight vtwin out there dont know why yammie never gave it a go..
Always wanted an SV650, but had an SV1000S and wasn;t keen, after my VTR1000Fs (x2), then went and bought an XSR700 and think I'm good thanks.
Worth mentioning Ducati maintenance cost way higher then SV.I owned 1st gen SV new and best handling bike I had ever and I had many.
In regards to performance , I would have loved to see which was better 1/4 mile, roll on, braking.
I have an older 07 monster that is still running strong but the parts and servicing cost are at that point where I’m probably going to spend more than the bikes value. I’m on the fence of getting a newer monster since I love it but I think the SV650 is beautiful, sportier and just a more reliable bike.
Dang, I LOVE both these bikes!
My first bike was a first gen SV650. 2nd was a '99 Monster M900. Between these two, I'd go with the SV. That X version just looks great. But....I wouldn't get either of these if I was in the market, at least not at the brand new price. Inevitably the suspension will start to bum you out after a while and that's a pricey thing to improve. The X used in two years though for $6000? Hell yes.
OMG I want that GROM so badly man!
I got a 2008 sv650 for $1150 about 3 months ago and I have to say. It’s actually a great bike, not too fast but definitely not slow at all. I can power wheelie in 1st and second(still learning how to clutch up). It’s really comfortable and a great bike to ride around town.
did you end up blowing it up by wheelieing an SV?
This is Zukey is hard to beat. They have one for new $5999 brand new on sale here in my town but it’s not ABS
Seeing your videos pop up in my stream with you saying I got this I got that. I’m doing the wrong stuff
I have a love hate relationship with my Scrambler which perhaps applies to the Monster. Eccentric tractor like motor and jerky throttle, furnace like heat in city traffic... but on the open road it is a lovely light bike even restricted for A2. I learned on an SV and found it’s throttle a lot smoother eapecially when moving off
My monster 821 has a jerky throttle too until I got a ducati throttle spacer for it. After that the throttle play goes away complete and it makes riding in low speed much better.
Yes!!!! Thank you!
It's good to finally see my first street bike represented on Yammie's channel. I love my 2012 Monster 1100 EVO.
#air-cooledducati#FORGEDHEADS.
^^^^Shoutout to my discord boys who know what's up.
Jacques Crusan - ‘09 1100 here, bro! 🙌🏾 There’s no contest between these two bikes, IMO.
Rode my buddies monster with akro exhaust with no heat wrap. My legs were cooked at a red light.
Hey, this clearly 3 years old but I'm deciding between a 2013 Ducati Monster 659 and a 2019 Suzuki SV650X. So much appreciate this vid. FYI 6500 AUD (~$4100) for the Duc and 7000AUD (~$4400) for the SV650X.
Choices...hmmm
Owning a Ducati means learning to do valves, belts, and clutches....
Not really that mysterious.
SV650s like to lean, and run forever with little to no maintenance. Most GSXR parts bolt right on so it's the choice for those that like to add character to their bike without spending a fortune. Ducati's are well... expensive and sound slightly better.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the heat coming off that air cooled engine in the Texas climate!
@Yammie Noob so i see in this video you make a direct reference to A2 riders in relation to talking about the 650 as a give away. Does that mean that us Europeans now also can participate in the give aways or is it restricted to the US based patreons only?
I'll take the SV650X.
Sv650 is a great bike. Sporty with some torq but not too much for beginners and not too small that you'll want to get rid of it and get something bigger 2 months after you buy it.
and if you want the total package you take the cagiva Raptor 650 with the looks and caracter of italian bikes but with the suzuki engine😉... cagiva hands down for me
Spite has officially last all credibility when he said the Duc had a better transmission.
I believe it's spelled "dook". Desmo valves are basically a worthless gimmick too. Worse than worthless.
@@VeritasEtAequitas Believe if or not Desmo has some advantages over conventional spring valves, one of the biggest is valve train wear, you can turn a Ducati camshaft around with your fingertips because you are not trying to push open a spring, which means cams, followers etc last forever, also they can not be valve bounced meaning the engine can rev really hard. I have had a Monster for years now and eventually, after about 60,000 km, the valves more or less stop recessing and they usually just need checking, not adjusting, which is very easy to do on the 2 valve engines.
How will you ship to India?? Yeah am okay with mt03. Great going guys!!
im so jealous of these empty roads :O, if the roads were like this here where i live i would have got a bike no questions ask ... but sadly its quite the contrary here *sad noises*
Get a dirt bike. No roads, no problem!
I moved to Las Vegas who legit has the worst drivers I have EVER seen, and yes I've been all over the country and have quite the list to compare too.
Why do I mention this? Because our roads are packed and people still ride. I would love to see you ride, you should ride there's nothing more therapeutic.
That said with busy streets, remember to ride like you're invisible and you'll be fine! Also something like the SV is perfect in the city because it's small, lightweight, and flickable is an understatement. It's the perfect commuter bike, especially in big cities!!! I totally recommend.. Then again I'm SUPER biased too lol
Ive owned both bikes. Both are great bikes, however the Ducati is a much better bike in brakes and suspension. I still ride the 696 and have no regrets of the higher maintenance costs. It’s true you actually fit into the Ducati instead on on it like the SV.
I find it interesting you don't like the Angel GT tires, Yam. Aren't they essentially just sport tires advertised as "sport touring"? So that's what I've always heard them touted as anyway.
i thought the same. Love my angel gts :D
When will Yammie See the light and stop hating on Kawasaki, to Show us the True King of Naked Bikes.
The Z900
I just got my 2010 696 on Craigslist for $2300
at 9.29 your pal talks about the off on light switch yank that v twins do, could you do a video to talk about this more in depth please. as i cant see any videos on this subject, many thanks @Yammie Noob
also if somone can tell me how to tag someone thatll be good cos it never works for me
Love my SV650 except for the wooden plank seat. :)
The Ducati badge in 2020 will cost you 2.5k more than the Suzuki. Dukes are sexier until those bills arrive, great review and I really hope ducati drop there prices to compete.
No problem if they copied something like ducati. Every manufacture am sure did that at some point. As long as value for money speaks more with quality its all good
Can you do street triple r vs ducati monster 821 (the new one)
I think that Ducati was still listing crank HP and Torque back in 2012; perhaps this is why the 696 doesn't seem more powerful than the SV650.
Sick
Yammie is like the mr beast of the bike world, at this point yam essentially has a bike dealership of giveaway motorbikes.
Fortnine has fewer and shorter videos with more subscribers.
Quality over quantity.
This is the comparison I've been dying for! Praise Rossi.
Been looking for a SV650x for a while now. What would be a fair deal new at a dealership? Got the money for cash but don't want to get fleeced.
“Oh hey! Didn’t see you there.”
Really??
The intro reminded me of the tiger king... I don't know why
You talking about the 2012 Ducati being Old Makes me feel weird as my 696 is a 2008, I also have 2003 1000ie - But I balance them with a 2020 Aprilia Shiver 900
My bike is 1992 CB 750