Personally, I LOVED the movie, "Religulous," because it has provided an insight into what the real meaning of organized religion is all about. After all, I take pride in being an ATHEIST and I have already turned my back on religion a long time ago because it had never worked for me. I also would give absolute pity to the believers who think that their faith is the way to go.
Darwinian/evolution is very good at brainwashing people and trapping them into atheist religion and subsequently become famous and rich. It is a religion and its a theory but its not scientific. "the atheistic scientific theory" is based "on the origin of species by means of natural selection" or "the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life" atheist is wrong, immoral and not scientific. An amphibians changed into a bird and life began by chemicals, And we are just bags of chemicals. We have no purpose in life beyond the biological imperatives other than to survive and reproduce. Life is absurd, and no better than death. We are just collections of atoms, One can give one’s life purpose, but there is no purpose to life. The reductionist perspective on biology is that it all boils down to physics eventually. That anything that is happening in a living organism can be fully accounted for by an explanation at the level of matter in motion - atoms and molecules moving together, exerting forces on each other, bumping into each other, exchanging energy with each other. They believe it’s clearly all physical stuff controlled by physical laws.Those atoms behave according to the physical laws of the universe. we are just as much a part of nature as nature is a part of us. Moral principles are drastically disconnected from the ruthless, selfish reasoning that one would expect of a creature randomly evolved to survive at any cost. The very idea that human beings think in non-physical, moral terms is striking. Beyond that, the fundamental content of human morals across cultures and history is identical. The scope of science is far too narrow to answer your questions. You may believe the entire universe and human psyche can be bottled up in mere observation, measurement, and experiment, but There are many things outside the boundary of science. Science cannot describe or understand subjective experiences. though science clearly exert a powerful influence on the material world but Don't depend on science to answer your questions about your existence and your life. Science will never find out where our emotions and thoughts comes from because the origin of our thoughts and emotions are not physical, they are from the SPIRIT of man within us. And spiritual things can't be put into a test tube. Purpose is a predetermined reason of existence, which can only come from the creator. If there is no creator, there is no predetermined reason for existence, hence no purpose. The marvel of life on earth only can be explained by creation. The apostle Paul said that God reveals Himself in the creation. He wrote, “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made” (Romans 1:20). God needs us to just have a little faith, Just have enough faith to pray to Him for the forgiveness of your sins and to trust Jesus for your salvation. Continue praying. Once you do, the Holy Spirit will give you all the "proof" you ever needed!
I bought the “Religulous” DVD and loved it. It’s a hilarious look at the nonsense that is organized religion. Like Maher, I hated going to church when I was a kid, just the way Maher described in the movie. At age 15 I rebelled and refused to go to church any longer. Finally, around age 40 I decided that I was basically Agnostic (like Bill, I preach the gospel of “I don’t know”). Christianity never made any sense to me as a kid. Now, as an adult, I see religion as akin to fairy tales for adults, basically a lot of silly nonsense that no one can prove is true.
It has to do with your level of understanding. You outgrew the infantile irrational understanding of your childhood faith. A lot of us have updated our knowledge and have a good understanding. You're still stuck with a juvenile understanding of religion.
@Nebula No, it's not based on any book. See, you have the same misconception. The bible was put together by the Church 400 years after Christianity began. Now answer this question, which book again were Christians reading for 4 centuries?
@Nebula Which book(s) were the early Christians reading before the bible was produced? Please don't deflect again. You seem to suggest that [original] Christianity is a religion of the book. That is Protestant nonsense. Christianity is centered around Christ and his Church. The book is one of the Church's teaching material, a vital material but not the center of the faith. It's the Church that makes a Christian, not the bible.
@Nebula I asked when the bible was produced; that is, when the 27 books of the New Testament were picked out from among hundreds in circulation at the time. What books taught people how to be Christian prior to the first letter of the New Testament? Do you see how your Protestant view of Christianity falls apart in light of history?
"religulous... I know, it's a hard word" hahahaha... no one even knows when they're being undermined by Bill Maher... he points out stupidity in the most subtle way... Bill Maher is awesome
I've already seen that movie 4 times!! Love it! Bill Maher is a 'must' se/hear! I absolutely agree to his views regarding religion as an institution. It's done so much harm to mankind...History proves it! Live long, Bill! ;-)
I live in Britain so Mahers rarely (if ever!) appears on the television here, but I like him. I respect and agree with many of his views on drug legalisation, libertarianism, his defence of animal rights, his rejection of organised religion and his rationalism. I know there are many like him in the American media but there is also a huge proportion of socially conservative individuals who give the right over there a bad press. Anyway, this is a song I think we all can enjoy! watch?v=ITIDYq67Ubw
Yea, I know, those guys are loons caring about the planet we live on. Caring about the planet is JUST the same as worshiping a god people wrote about thousands of years ago! You are spot on!
The point about Christians needing to be more Christ-like is FANTASTIC. And really everyone could stand to be more Christ-like. People who think religion provides nothing positive, however, are as close-minded as they claim religious people to be.
Agreed. Good point, and most religious people don't promote war or violence whether they want to impose their views or not. Arguing that religion is bad based on extremist interpretations of it, is a horrible argument.
Does there have to be an ad for every video on TH-cam? It used to be good to watch videos on here. I think I might go back to reading books or something.
"Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positively fanatic orgy of freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression." - Einstein
I lost my Grandpa. I liked very much and when he died it was hard, but I learned to accept it. Death is a very natural thing in the universe. Stars are born, burn, and then they eventually lose their light. Everything has a beginning and end. I realized that the death of a human doesn't have much of an impact of the universe, because it is so much more complicated than we can fathom. Death can be scary, but it doesn't have to be. It's a very natural part of our lives that I've learned to accept.
I just had chilli beef on rice for dinner because I'm tired from working at Canterbury Aluminium as a process worker because I'm still contracted under Trade Staff for a 90 day trial.
I was going back over this discussion and missed the part where this gentleman said there were 80 books in the Bible...there are, in the Protestant Bible, 66 canonized books.
We are all pressing our faces to the Giant Fire Truck called life. "Definitely red paint." "What!? It's clear glass." "No way - black rubber." "Chrome, fools!!" Someone has to knuckle the tops of our skulls, "Dummies, take 5 steps back." ... "Ooooohhhh."
yeah she did, though she questioned her faith, which a lot of people do. She never declared "there is no God." She simply asked "what if there is no God, or soul."
Youre right "challenging long held belief'' is a good thing and it will weed out the minor believers and be a great test of mine and many Christians faith.
I hate when people use the argument..." But what if your wrong and he does exist?" To believe in something because you could be wrong is the stupidest reason to believe in anything
The term “canon” is used to describe the books that are divinely inspired and therefore belong in the Bible. The difficulty in determining the biblical canon is that the Bible does not give us a list of the books that belong in the Bible. The first “canon” was the Muratorian Canon, which was compiled in A.D. 170. The Muratorian Canon included all of the New Testament books except Hebrews, James, and 3 John. In A.D. 363,
@ramfan32 - if you cant get one of my statements right from one post to the next, why should i think that someone can get an 1100 page book right from 3000 years ago?
I TOTALLY agree..I consider myself a spiritual person,because IMO religion is for people that don't know any better..I LOVE science,because it challenges long held beliefs..as you said,free thinking is a good thing.I
GREAT MOVIE!....highly recommended. I bought it and put it in my iTunes.....Thanks Bill. There's a lot of very good material in religion....He could have done 10 movies
What I believe is not a superstition. I base my decision on being Christian on experience, tradition, and common sense. Religion for the most part has been a civilizing force. It is only when taken to extremes that "society looses" from it.
I LOVE how he doesn't like the word athiest. I have a few people in my life who call themselves devoted atheists - they detest religion, read books on atheism, go to public talks by athiests and even go to athiest conventions - all to be around people that share the same belief system as they do, which is basically centred around hating what people, who are different to them, think. It astounds me that they honestly can't see that they're doing the exact thing they hate.
Sorry, I get defensive with certain types. But the book that I was refering to is called: Mind life, and universe, edited by Lynn Margulis and Eduardo Punset who by the way has a program coming from Spain called Redes that deals with the big questions in all kinds of different fields where he interviews leading scholars. You'll find the book in Amazon and it's worth while reading the foreword is written by David Suzuki. Enoy knowing? - read it.
I think it's interesting that you appear to be from Iran. i have always been interested in Khomeini, do you have an opinion on him. And what is you're opinion on the Shah? If you're a muslim i'm surprised you are a fan of Bill Maher. Did the cartoons in Denmark from 2005 affend you?
Since when is an atheist`slife "empty"? It`s actually a lot more "full" and certainly a lot more joyous and fun since we never waste time: 1. worrying about invisible puppet-masters controling our existance 2. attending useless ceremonies created during the iron age 3. reading useless tomes written by men less informed about the world than a modern 6th grader 4. fretting over entrance into imaginary realms with fire or pearly gates. Trust me, life is great as an atheist! I love every minuteof it
Since ONE of the reasons America was ever settled, in the first place, was “religious” freedom. It is only logical that religion is a mainstay in American life. Agree or disagree..it does not matter. Religion is interwoven, into the fabric of the U. S. Constitution via: “the year of our Lord” date of Article VII, and of course, the Declaration of Independence. Neither logic, nor reason, nor atheist protests can ever change this.
Most people are not afraid to make fun of religion as you say; it is open season on Christians. Religion is for people that don't know any better? Any better than what? Free thinking is a good thing. But your belief system, is tenuous also.
You are Incorrect about the Muratorian "Canon". I did not say the books had been canonized by 100 CE I said that it was pretty much what was being read by Christians as was in 100 CE. It was not "canonized" as is until the Nicene Counsel in 325 CE. And a canon can refer to any standardized text...such as the Canon of English Literature.
@MrAnonymouswitness The guy you're thinking of is "Anno Domini", a monk. That's where we get the 'A.D.' from. Today many non-Xians use BCE & CE or Before Current Era & Current Era.
not being a bad person should have value in itself... the reason behind it should not be to go somewhere that good people go after death.. one should not harm others just for the intrinsic meaning behind being a good person, not cause someone is watching/judging you for some afterlife
Where did you find this? I'm really inerested. Does it say in the bible he found a city? If so I really want to see it to laugh at this contradiction of Christians (:
So, generally speaking, in light of how we as humans think, which idea is mocked more? The idea that there is a God of some sort or the idea that there isn't? I posit that the idea of there not being a God is not mocked because people, deep down, see no truth in the idea worth rationalizing or coming to terms with.
It is believed there were up to 600 books which comprised the work we now know as the Bible. Through a series of decisions made by the early church leadership, all but 80 of those books, known as the King James Translation of 1611, were purged from the work, with a further reduction by the Protestant Reformation bringing the number to 66 in the "Authorized" King James Bible. Any book that was deemed to not fit the church doctrine, that was contradictory to the books was removed.
I have faith that my spiritual path is correct. Believing in a "higher power" is a cope-out as far as I'm concerned, left over from the era when people wanted to get on board the wagon, but didn't want to accept Christ. It is more for people who want to prove they believe in something, but the don't want to seem narrow, and like they can't see outside the box. I believe what I have investigated for myself, not something my parents forced on me, because they didn't.
how do you feel about people who were born into other religions, such as Islam or Hinduism, that don't believe in Christianity simply because they were raised differently?
Y’all funny because it’s not about religion, Christianity is relationship with Jesus Christ. It never was (religion) so no matter how good the movie is just know Jesus Christ is the only way to father god and there is no other way. God bless all real talk. P.S the real living GOD doesn’t like religion anyways so I agree with people on that topic of (religion is crazy,stupid,etc) 🤷♂️
20 “If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies [q]at his hand, he shall [r]be punished. 21 If, however, he [s]survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his [t]property.
@OddFacade -the part i described is in the movie, just not in this particular video segment. i know christians arent "immune to sin", in fact, the religion specifically states that you are a sinful creature by nature. i was taught this when i was younger, as i was raised christian. i dont consider homosexual sex, and methamphetamine use a "we slip now and then" kind of act. it is so far away from what a christian is supposed to believe and do, it turns the religion into a joke.
Caring is an emotion, not something based on logic. Since religion is about emotion, your answer confirms for me that global warming is a secular religion not a science.
I was answering someone else's question of "Why is Christianity mocked?" and you decided you felt the need to pipe in. Conversations rarely make sense to those that budge in uninvited. But so long as you're here and obviously not thinking about what's being said I'll clarify: I'm a Christian. I have been for the last fifteen years or so. I was originally as atheistic as many of the people in this room until I decided to actually give the subject the fair, unbiased, openminded...
I'm Christian and my atheist friends showed me this video. I thought it was funny because Bill Maher, after all is a comedian.. but I feel like it was just another movie used to make religious people look bad by using various sneaky techniques.. another thing, why couldn't they interview a well-taught theologist instead of bunch of ignorant (or atleast seemingly ignorant) christians??? They obviously didn't dare interview a theologist because they know the guy would give legitimate answers!!!
And I grew up watching people in privelaged positions belittle and mock others because they knew they were in such a position that they need not fear consequences. Such people are the ones that least deserve any right to speak publicly. Those are people that are deeply troubled and insecure. Is there any difference between mocking people into changing their beliefs and some guy convincing people he's Jesus? No- fundementally it's saying whatever you can to feel better about your insecurites.
What's your definition of sadness? Nothing is really sad when you think when you think about it. All we are higher intelligent animals-yes, we are animals- that occupy a small planet in the Milky Way Galaxy. Our brains are formed to have emotions so that we can survive and cope within a society. Epigenetics, neurology, and other scientific fields go much deeper into this. Do lower species deserve a heaven? Does heaven only apply to humans? What if there is another species much smarter than us?
Deuteronomy 21:10 is a passage that is actually put into place to protect women. In a society where men pretty much did what they pleased and women didn't have rights this was so women would not be raped and then abandoned. Exodus 21:2-6 is partly to protect women. The other part is that if a Hebrew was a slave to another Hebrew, after six years of service he was to go free, unless he didn't want to go free (imagine that a slave having a choice). Shall I go on?
I have no idea about the percentage of believers in my home town. I live in a city now. A very progressive city. I am married to a non believer, we live with our in-laws because they are getting older (in their 80s) and need a little help. My mother-in-law would like to be a mystic, but does not have the faith. My father-in-law was a biology professor at a prominent university and is an avowed atheist. So you see more people in my life are unbelievers.
Your town , what was the percentage of believers. Your parents what is their belief. I did the same my son is a physicist and an atheist. He choose for himself and choose not to be influenced by an ignorant society
People, deep down, know that Christianity is right so they mock it in an attempt to convince themselves otherwise. Don't feel bad about getting mocked- take deep pride in it. Think I'm wrong? Look at any other religion and how that religion is mocked and compare it to Christianity. You'll note a very significant and telling difference.
So I know from what I speak..I am not confined to my little box of beliefs like sadly most people(from all different religions,not just Christianity) sadly are..I am into expanding my mind by learning about the universe and this world..and the next :)
@OddFacade - i live in arizona, and there are 6 mormon churches within 8 miles of my house, all built within the last 5 years, and all of them are not only identical, they all look gigantic and expensive with their construction methods. all brick, high steeples, lots of glass, etc. the mormons all give 10% of their money to the church, its a shame they dont use the money for something else than the pricey churches and music equipment, etc.. they scream "hey! look at how nice this religion is!"
@hoplite669 i know im just flapping my lips. but if anything i write makes someone think, then i have done enough. i was raised christian, and i didnt abandon it overnight. it took lots of reading, and discussion to change my mind. remember, "a journey of a thousand miles, begins with the first step"
@ramfan32 i never said the KJV was the original! it was written in 1611AD. but the contents of the OLD testament were speculated to have been written around 1100BC, making the old & new testaments as a whole, almost 3000 years old. and by saying "about the same as all of them" just isnt factual. i have a "revised standard version"- c1952 and "new revised standard version"-c1990 sitting in front of me right now, and there are differences. and that is just 38 years of discrepancies.
I loved Religulous! I watch it when I need a good laugh.
Personally, I LOVED the movie, "Religulous," because it has provided an insight into what the real meaning of organized religion is all about. After all, I take pride in being an ATHEIST and I have already turned my back on religion a long time ago because it had never worked for me. I also would give absolute pity to the believers who think that their faith is the way to go.
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Darwinian/evolution is very good at brainwashing people and trapping them into atheist religion and subsequently become famous and rich. It is a religion and its a theory but its not scientific. "the atheistic scientific theory" is based "on the origin of species by means of natural selection" or "the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life" atheist is wrong, immoral and not scientific. An amphibians changed into a bird and life began by chemicals, And we are just bags of chemicals. We have no purpose in life beyond the biological imperatives other than to survive and reproduce. Life is absurd, and no better than death. We are just collections of atoms, One can give one’s life purpose, but there is no purpose to life. The reductionist perspective on biology is that it all boils down to physics eventually. That anything that is happening in a living organism can be fully accounted for by an explanation at the level of matter in motion - atoms and molecules moving together, exerting forces on each other, bumping into each other, exchanging energy with each other. They believe it’s clearly all physical stuff controlled by physical laws.Those atoms behave according to the physical laws of the universe. we are just as much a part of nature as nature is a part of us. Moral principles are drastically disconnected from the ruthless, selfish reasoning that one would expect of a creature randomly evolved to survive at any cost. The very idea that human beings think in non-physical, moral terms is striking. Beyond that, the fundamental content of human morals across cultures and history is identical.
The scope of science is far too narrow to answer your questions. You may believe the entire universe and human psyche can be bottled up in mere observation, measurement, and experiment, but There are many things outside the boundary of science. Science cannot describe or understand subjective experiences. though science clearly exert a powerful influence on the material world but Don't depend on science to answer your questions about your existence and your life.
Science will never find out where our emotions and thoughts comes from because the origin of our thoughts and emotions are not physical, they are from the SPIRIT of man within us. And spiritual things can't be put into a test tube. Purpose is a predetermined reason of existence, which can only come from the creator. If there is no creator, there is no predetermined reason for existence, hence no purpose.
The marvel of life on earth only can be explained by creation. The apostle Paul said that God reveals Himself in the creation. He wrote, “For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made” (Romans 1:20). God needs us to just have a little faith, Just have enough faith to pray to Him for the forgiveness of your sins and to trust Jesus for your salvation. Continue praying. Once you do, the Holy Spirit will give you all the "proof" you ever needed!
Blah blah blah huh? 😮
@@Kevin-qp5we Like what was your point other than saying "blah blah blah"?
I bought the “Religulous” DVD and loved it. It’s a hilarious look at the nonsense that is organized religion.
Like Maher, I hated going to church when I was a kid, just the way Maher described in the movie. At age 15 I rebelled and refused to go to church any longer. Finally, around age 40 I decided that I was basically Agnostic (like Bill, I preach the gospel of “I don’t know”).
Christianity never made any sense to me as a kid. Now, as an adult, I see religion as akin to fairy tales for adults, basically a lot of silly nonsense that no one can prove is true.
Fun Fact: Bill Maher is a Zionist.
It has to do with your level of understanding. You outgrew the infantile irrational understanding of your childhood faith. A lot of us have updated our knowledge and have a good understanding. You're still stuck with a juvenile understanding of religion.
@Nebula No, it's not based on any book. See, you have the same misconception. The bible was put together by the Church 400 years after Christianity began. Now answer this question, which book again were Christians reading for 4 centuries?
@Nebula Which book(s) were the early Christians reading before the bible was produced? Please don't deflect again. You seem to suggest that [original] Christianity is a religion of the book. That is Protestant nonsense. Christianity is centered around Christ and his Church. The book is one of the Church's teaching material, a vital material but not the center of the faith. It's the Church that makes a Christian, not the bible.
@Nebula I asked when the bible was produced; that is, when the 27 books of the New Testament were picked out from among hundreds in circulation at the time. What books taught people how to be Christian prior to the first letter of the New Testament? Do you see how your Protestant view of Christianity falls apart in light of history?
"religulous... I know, it's a hard word" hahahaha... no one even knows when they're being undermined by Bill Maher... he points out stupidity in the most subtle way... Bill Maher is awesome
Bill is the fucking man
I've already seen that movie 4 times!! Love it! Bill Maher is a 'must' se/hear! I absolutely agree to his views regarding religion as an institution. It's done so much harm to mankind...History proves it! Live long, Bill! ;-)
This movie and another movie I saw " The Invention of Lying" with Ricky Gervais, are by far the most hilarious look at religion.s.
bermudaguy1 It was funny however it should have parodied other social aspects of life more!
I saw it for the first time today and loved it! I'm a Christian, but it gave me a lot of food for thought.
You're a fool if you believed it. Lies from the devil. Jesus's first warning about the end days is careful you're not decieved.
I enjoyed that alot
He's so intelligent!!👍❤✌
0:53 George Carlin - "Until the age of reason."
im happy and proud to live in a country, denmark, where bill mahers "religulous" was broadcast in its full lenght, on national television yesterday.
On National TV? Wow!
Jesus save us from your followers.
Yeshua: save us from your pseudo followers!
Bill, it is symptomatic of the religious mindset that one of the few individuals who has the courage to tell the truth about religion is a comedian!
I love Bill Maher, not because I think like he does, but because He thinks like I do.
I live in Britain so Mahers rarely (if ever!) appears on the television here, but I like him. I respect and agree with many of his views on drug legalisation, libertarianism, his defence of animal rights, his rejection of organised religion and his rationalism. I know there are many like him in the American media but there is also a huge proportion of socially conservative individuals who give the right over there a bad press. Anyway, this is a song I think we all can enjoy! watch?v=ITIDYq67Ubw
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Yea, I know, those guys are loons caring about the planet we live on. Caring about the planet is JUST the same as worshiping a god people wrote about thousands of years ago! You are spot on!
The point about Christians needing to be more Christ-like is FANTASTIC. And really everyone could stand to be more Christ-like. People who think religion provides nothing positive, however, are as close-minded as they claim religious people to be.
Great show!
@nickguice You are saying his knowledge is dependent on time and at other times it's independent of time . Which one is it?
Bill Maher couldn't say it any better. Love him!
Agreed. Good point, and most religious people don't promote war or violence whether they want to impose their views or not. Arguing that religion is bad based on extremist interpretations of it, is a horrible argument.
Does there have to be an ad for every video on TH-cam? It used to be good to watch videos on here. I think I might go back to reading books or something.
"Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positively fanatic orgy of freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression." - Einstein
I was raised Christian, then I hit the first grade, and logic kicked in.
I lost my Grandpa. I liked very much and when he died it was hard, but I learned to accept it. Death is a very natural thing in the universe. Stars are born, burn, and then they eventually lose their light. Everything has a beginning and end. I realized that the death of a human doesn't have much of an impact of the universe, because it is so much more complicated than we can fathom. Death can be scary, but it doesn't have to be. It's a very natural part of our lives that I've learned to accept.
"You're nothing but a speck of dust, who is only on this earth temporarily." Now you understand
i remember i was at church school one day and i asked my teacher if eve was related to harry potter and she got mad at me
I just had chilli beef on rice for dinner because I'm tired from working at Canterbury Aluminium as a process worker because I'm still contracted under Trade Staff for a 90 day trial.
I was going back over this discussion and missed the part where this gentleman said there were 80 books in the Bible...there are, in the Protestant Bible, 66 canonized books.
gotta love that Christian compassion and humility
We need a sequel!!
We are all pressing our faces to the Giant Fire Truck called life.
"Definitely red paint." "What!? It's clear glass." "No way - black rubber." "Chrome, fools!!"
Someone has to knuckle the tops of our skulls, "Dummies, take 5 steps back."
... "Ooooohhhh."
yeah she did, though she questioned her faith, which a lot of people do. She never declared "there is no God." She simply asked "what if there is no God, or soul."
The Gospel of 'I don't know' is one I'd llike to find in my hotel room someday.
Youre right "challenging long held belief'' is a good thing and it will weed out the minor believers and be a great test of mine and many Christians faith.
I hate when people use the argument..." But what if your wrong and he does exist?" To believe in something because you could be wrong is the stupidest reason to believe in anything
rich people actually find more ways to evade taxes than regular people do too. They make me sick.
Who else has a big crush on bill Maher like me
The term “canon” is used to describe the books that are divinely inspired and therefore belong in the Bible. The difficulty in determining the biblical canon is that the Bible does not give us a list of the books that belong in the Bible. The first “canon” was the Muratorian Canon, which was compiled in A.D. 170. The Muratorian Canon included all of the New Testament books except Hebrews, James, and 3 John. In A.D. 363,
@ramfan32 - if you cant get one of my statements right from one post to the next, why should i think that someone can get an 1100 page book right from 3000 years ago?
I TOTALLY agree..I consider myself a spiritual person,because IMO religion is for people that don't know any better..I LOVE science,because it challenges long held beliefs..as you said,free thinking is a good thing.I
GREAT MOVIE!....highly recommended. I bought it and put it in my iTunes.....Thanks Bill. There's a lot of very good material in religion....He could have done 10 movies
What I believe is not a superstition. I base my decision on being Christian on experience, tradition, and common sense. Religion for the most part has been a civilizing force. It is only when taken to extremes that "society looses" from it.
I LOVE how he doesn't like the word athiest. I have a few people in my life who call themselves devoted atheists - they detest religion, read books on atheism, go to public talks by athiests and even go to athiest conventions - all to be around people that share the same belief system as they do, which is basically centred around hating what people, who are different to them, think. It astounds me that they honestly can't see that they're doing the exact thing they hate.
Sorry, I get defensive with certain types. But the book that I was refering to is called: Mind life, and universe, edited by Lynn Margulis and Eduardo Punset who by the way has a program coming from Spain called Redes that deals with the big questions in all kinds of different fields where he interviews leading scholars. You'll find the book in Amazon and it's worth while reading the foreword is written by David Suzuki. Enoy knowing? - read it.
I respect you as well...we are not so different...just on different sides of the street.
I think it's interesting that you appear to be from Iran. i have always been interested in Khomeini, do you have an opinion on him. And what is you're opinion on the Shah? If you're a muslim i'm surprised you are a fan of Bill Maher. Did the cartoons in Denmark from 2005 affend you?
Just because something is not demonstrable by your science does not make it fallacious. Love exists but is not demonstrable.
can I find it in spanish??
@kenspurling 100 points on an IQ test is "average intelligence". So you're saying average people are idiots? I'm confused.
Since when is an atheist`slife "empty"? It`s actually a lot more "full" and certainly a lot more joyous and fun since we never waste time: 1. worrying about invisible puppet-masters controling our existance 2. attending useless ceremonies created during the iron age 3. reading useless tomes written by men less informed about the world than a modern 6th grader 4. fretting over entrance into imaginary realms with fire or pearly gates. Trust me, life is great as an atheist! I love every minuteof it
Since ONE of the reasons America was ever settled, in the first place, was “religious” freedom. It is only logical that religion is a mainstay in American life. Agree or disagree..it does not matter. Religion is interwoven, into the fabric of the U. S. Constitution via: “the year of our Lord” date of Article VII, and of course, the Declaration of Independence. Neither logic, nor reason, nor atheist protests can ever change this.
Most people are not afraid to make fun of religion as you say; it is open season on Christians. Religion is for people that don't know any better? Any better than what? Free thinking is a good thing. But your belief system, is tenuous also.
Life expectancy in the city of Rome in the first century B.C. was about 20 years at birth.
Which statement are you referring
You are Incorrect about the Muratorian "Canon". I did not say the books had been canonized by 100 CE I said that it was pretty much what was being read by Christians as was in 100 CE. It was not "canonized" as is until the Nicene Counsel in 325 CE. And a canon can refer to any standardized text...such as the Canon of English Literature.
@MrAnonymouswitness The guy you're thinking of is "Anno Domini", a monk. That's where we get the 'A.D.' from. Today many non-Xians use BCE & CE or Before Current Era & Current Era.
your last statement is confusing. Could you please restate it?
especially the fact that the number of characters on comments are limited, and I might need more than 500 characters to prove points and what not
As long as Al Gore has fans we will never reach the age of reason.
Have you taken your E-Meter readings lately?
Please explain what I got wrong? If you can
It amazes me the simplicity of your mind. Care to by so swamp land in Florida
not being a bad person should have value in itself... the reason behind it should not be to go somewhere that good people go after death.. one should not harm others just for the intrinsic meaning behind being a good person, not cause someone is watching/judging you for some afterlife
Where did you find this? I'm really inerested. Does it say in the bible he found a city? If so I really want to see it to laugh at this contradiction of Christians (:
have they really? thats sickening, how on earth did they skirt round the international laws that say "NO DRILLING ON THE FREAKING POLES"
So, generally speaking, in light of how we as humans think, which idea is mocked more? The idea that there is a God of some sort or the idea that there isn't? I posit that the idea of there not being a God is not mocked because people, deep down, see no truth in the idea worth rationalizing or coming to terms with.
It is believed there were up to 600 books which comprised the work we now know as the Bible. Through a series of decisions made by the early church leadership, all but 80 of those books, known as the King James Translation of 1611, were purged from the work, with a further reduction by the Protestant Reformation bringing the number to 66 in the "Authorized" King James Bible. Any book that was deemed to not fit the church doctrine, that was contradictory to the books was removed.
@ndrummer99 There were also stories of Elvis being alive decades after his death . Does this mean he too is alive?
I have faith that my spiritual path is correct. Believing in a "higher power" is a cope-out as far as I'm concerned, left over from the era when people wanted to get on board the wagon, but didn't want to accept Christ. It is more for people who want to prove they believe in something, but the don't want to seem narrow, and like they can't see outside the box. I believe what I have investigated for myself, not something my parents forced on me, because they didn't.
Great movie. Exactly the way I see religion.
Can we all agree TH-cam's ads are getting RIDICULOUSSS!!!
how do you feel about people who were born into other religions, such as Islam or Hinduism, that don't believe in Christianity simply because they were raised differently?
I can prove that there's not an invisible genie hanging out on everyone's right shoulder either
Y’all funny because it’s not about religion, Christianity is relationship with Jesus Christ. It never was (religion) so no matter how good the movie is just know Jesus Christ is the only way to father god and there is no other way. God bless all real talk. P.S the real living GOD doesn’t like religion anyways so I agree with people on that topic of (religion is crazy,stupid,etc) 🤷♂️
20 “If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies [q]at his hand, he shall [r]be punished. 21 If, however, he [s]survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his [t]property.
i like how in the movie, the guy playing Jesus (at the theme park) made the most sense.
Christians should learn to tolerate and accept!
@OddFacade -the part i described is in the movie, just not in this particular video segment. i know christians arent "immune to sin", in fact, the religion specifically states that you are a sinful creature by nature. i was taught this when i was younger, as i was raised christian.
i dont consider homosexual sex, and methamphetamine use a "we slip now and then" kind of act. it is so far away from what a christian is supposed to believe and do, it turns the religion into a joke.
@niko25ish Like the one that says the earth was created before the sun?
Caring is an emotion, not something based on logic. Since religion is about emotion, your answer confirms for me that global warming is a secular religion not a science.
@ndrummer99 No there was a story written 60 years after his crucifixion that said he was resurrected
I was answering someone else's question of "Why is Christianity mocked?" and you decided you felt the need to pipe in. Conversations rarely make sense to those that budge in uninvited. But so long as you're here and obviously not thinking about what's being said I'll clarify:
I'm a Christian. I have been for the last fifteen years or so. I was originally as atheistic as many of the people in this room until I decided to actually give the subject the fair, unbiased, openminded...
....does Maher interview Tom Cruse or Vinnie Barbarino on their religion SCIENTOLOGY ???
I'm Christian and my atheist friends showed me this video. I thought it was funny because Bill Maher, after all is a comedian.. but I feel like it was just another movie used to make religious people look bad by using various sneaky techniques.. another thing, why couldn't they interview a well-taught theologist instead of bunch of ignorant (or atleast seemingly ignorant) christians??? They obviously didn't dare interview a theologist because they know the guy would give legitimate answers!!!
And I grew up watching people in privelaged positions belittle and mock others because they knew they were in such a position that they need not fear consequences. Such people are the ones that least deserve any right to speak publicly. Those are people that are deeply troubled and insecure. Is there any difference between mocking people into changing their beliefs and some guy convincing people he's Jesus? No- fundementally it's saying whatever you can to feel better about your insecurites.
What's your definition of sadness? Nothing is really sad when you think when you think about it. All we are higher intelligent animals-yes, we are animals- that occupy a small planet in the Milky Way Galaxy. Our brains are formed to have emotions so that we can survive and cope within a society. Epigenetics, neurology, and other scientific fields go much deeper into this. Do lower species deserve a heaven? Does heaven only apply to humans? What if there is another species much smarter than us?
Deuteronomy 21:10 is a passage that is actually put into place to protect women. In a society where men pretty much did what they pleased and women didn't have rights this was so women would not be raped and then abandoned. Exodus 21:2-6 is partly to protect women. The other part is that if a Hebrew was a slave to another Hebrew, after six years of service he was to go free, unless he didn't want to go free (imagine that a slave having a choice). Shall I go on?
I have no idea about the percentage of believers in my home town. I live in a city now. A very progressive city. I am married to a non believer, we live with our in-laws because they are getting older (in their 80s) and need a little help. My mother-in-law would like to be a mystic, but does not have the faith. My father-in-law was a biology professor at a prominent university and is an avowed atheist. So you see more people in my life are unbelievers.
Your town , what was the percentage of believers. Your parents what is their belief. I did the same my son is a physicist and an atheist. He choose for himself and choose not to be influenced by an ignorant society
People, deep down, know that Christianity is right so they mock it in an attempt to convince themselves otherwise. Don't feel bad about getting mocked- take deep pride in it.
Think I'm wrong? Look at any other religion and how that religion is mocked and compare it to Christianity. You'll note a very significant and telling difference.
The moment when you realize you’ve been pronouncing it wrong for 10 years...makes you feel ridiculous
Why would I listen to an individual who is definitely mentally inferior to me and most likely physically weaker than me as well?
Killing of religious zealots was a common occurrence back then just as resurrection was
BTW I was raised a catholic. But desire for immortality is not a good reason to abandon reason
So I know from what I speak..I am not confined to my little box of beliefs like sadly most people(from all different religions,not just Christianity) sadly are..I am into expanding my mind by learning about the universe and this world..and the next :)
@OddFacade - i live in arizona, and there are 6 mormon churches within 8 miles of my house, all built within the last 5 years, and all of them are not only identical, they all look gigantic and expensive with their construction methods. all brick, high steeples, lots of glass, etc. the mormons all give 10% of their money to the church, its a shame they dont use the money for something else than the pricey churches and music equipment, etc..
they scream "hey! look at how nice this religion is!"
@hoplite669 i know im just flapping my lips. but if anything i write makes someone think, then i have done enough.
i was raised christian, and i didnt abandon it overnight. it took lots of reading, and discussion to change my mind.
remember, "a journey of a thousand miles, begins with the first step"
@ramfan32 i never said the KJV was the original! it was written in 1611AD. but the contents of the OLD testament were speculated to have been written around 1100BC, making the old & new testaments as a whole, almost 3000 years old.
and by saying "about the same as all of them" just isnt factual. i have a "revised standard version"- c1952 and "new revised standard version"-c1990 sitting in front of me right now, and there are differences. and that is just 38 years of discrepancies.