@@t0jo853 yeah, have u seen how repetitive omnipotent reader gets?… sure I love the series, but I had to take a 1-2 month break at cp 400 and a 3 month break at chapter 500 due to how repetitive it got, also, (spoilers) all the suicide, *way too many* and he just doesn’t learn, and their is literally, better options in some of these arcs, but nope, suicide, his death count at the end of the series is like 10+. (But to be fair, chapters 1-300~ are pretty good, also, between 400-550 it starts using some good plot ideas, and story writing ideas, but also to give some slack: the LN is written by an old couple… soooo yeah, also, (more spoilers) they do give themselves a cameo at the end of the series as well as an explanation, so if u want, go read that, that was tbh, one of the better parts of the ending that I liked.
if you've ever seen a lot of movies or shows you'd know how rare those are there as well not to mention even books - once you leave the mainstream ones behind you'll rarely find good endings same applies too mangas/manhwas it's what makes those superb shows and stories stick with you for longer than just a few weeks and if you yourself think back - i'd bet not a lot of those met that criteria that's also the reason why so many authors choose to have open endings so the reader can choose their own ending because they know they'll never be able to satisfy selfish people (you - i make that assumption simply because of the comment you've left behind) enjoy the story appreciate the art and music read the story instead of just skimming over every chapter that has just been released on the prob 20+ stories you're reading at the same time or as the saying goes "enjoy the art"
@@MHCranbeary Wanting a satisfying ending to a series is not a selfish thing to ask for💀 By writing a story with any plot the author promises a conclusion, and a lot of the time authors are lazy and just leave planning an ending till the last moment, which leaves us with a trash finale.
@@Ozone946 Or if you've ever written a story yourself you might know that starting it is easy - keeping it engaging is practice - but it having a good ending it most likely the hardest part ever - even if you put in hours of work and training you will never get solid endings everytime hence the selfish part if you want something nearly impossible why don't you do it yourself and proof your point?
@@MHCranbeary Well, no one says it's easy. In fact rarely ANYTHING good is easy to make - be that software, hardware, blueprints, protocols, architectural design, etc. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't want to have something good. For goodness sake its not that trivial to do even something as common as a house, yet you won't ever say that you should be satisfyed with dodgy house with leaky roof, bad insulation, leaky faucets, etc. Why so? Do you think that it is easy to build a good roof? Or is it easy to install good plumbing? Well maybe you would be satisfied with crappy os? By your logic you should be properly contend with an OS that bsods every few minutes - since you know, its hella hard to create a wholeblown os, so you should just apreciate the work that has been put in it! You see the problem with that way of thinking? I do. Not to mention that A LOT of serieses are made to NEVER end, just to continue making money while it lasts(which in turn nearly always degrades in half-assed storielines, fillers, continuety errors, redcons, macguffins, deus ex machinas, etc.). All i want is selfcontained story with an ending - which a scarcity due to the way entertaiment industry operates nowadays.
I think in this case, reverse isekai is a fitting name for the trope. Think "The Devil is a Part-Timer" type of trope. The "reverse isekai" you mentioned was more of an incursion of worlds, think gates and dungeons.
Yeah I was thinking the reverse is usually when a hero is yeeted into our world one way or another. What he was saying didn't really mesh. Like they can both happen but its more meant as someone from another world is reincarnated or thrown into our world
To start with, what part of the story was supposed to be isekai? Isekai, as a term, means other world, yet the main character goes from his fantasy world to his fantasy world. As in, he doesn't go fucking anywhere. The "correct" term for this would be tensei, which translates to reincarnation. In either case, the story seems to be nothing more than just another power fantasy. The story started with an okay premise - Some powerful evil entity giving up it's power in exchange to be free, but it spared no time in giving back the main character all his power, because apparently we can't have an MC that has to cope with his own weakness and learn lessons from that; Or an MC that actually has to deal with the consequences of his own decisions.
i've always taken "reverse isekai" to mean the otherworlder brought into the ordinary contemporary world, since it was that sort of trope i saw the "reverse isekai" label appended to the most. if we need another word for that trope, or the incursion of worlds, "inverse" would be my suggestion, though i'm not sure if east asian languages have a similar but distinct word to fill that role
This isn't really a reverse isekai. It's more just a slightly dressed up trapped in a tutorial tower trope. Ridiculously OP guy gets isekai'd into a developed portal fantasy world sometimes with some loss in powers that he gets back and instantly is invincible and will never struggle ever again and has the exact same personality as every other character with this trope.
if I'm allowed to do a recommendation. An Isekai done right subverting the trappings of the genre is "trash of the count family". It ignores the S-F rank bullshit, the random harems, the undeserved systems that give out power due to completely unjustified reasons and all that jazz. Highly recommend it, one of the few stories that made me read the light novel after finishing the webtoon
@@jacobwhitehurst4983 yeah, im actually caught up on it myself. It's surprisingly good. It's literally cyberpunk with magic lmao. Can't wait for more chapters myself Edit: I'm referring specifically to the manga/manhwa, not the book lmao
Halfway trough the first episode of I was the Final Boss I went "🤨" without realizing why and then saw It's Mine in their other works and realized it's made by LuckS
Honestly I'd love you to talk on Existence, it feels just so fresh, everyones prospective feels very logical, characters feel very real and the world is just our world. Not altered in any way with just two exceptions. It's incredibly gripping and maybe has the potential to be my fave webtoon ever.
Lol dropped it after like 20 chapters. Initially, it was really good but when they started to play cant hurt girl cuz she looks like mum thing I just started to lose interest and I cant stand the stupidity of the girl bro like what
I disagree, I liked existence at the start because I thought It would explore the duality of human nature, Where the Mc would experience all that humanity has to offer, then finally come to making a decision on what to do about it. But then after the Wipe it's like we forget that he was never created to destroy, He made the choice, they created a completely blank slate out of an already compelling character, and then created an unnecessary conflict that completely disregards already established concepts. (SPOILERS AHEAD) The memory wipe isn't the problem, the problem is what they decided to do after that, they had an original concept, then completely threw it away for generic safe tropes, I mean come on, I feel like it would have been more compelling if the mc managed to form a true connection despite his disposition instead of just forcing the connection with a memory wipe, and then the fact that they try to insinuate that he is an organism designed to kill and ohhh he doesn't have to do that, is just disappointing, as it strips him of any growth that he had before, because remember, he had no interest in anything after so many years, then he experienced the love of a mother being ripped from him, plus other things, making him then CHOOSE that, yes he truly does want to destroy humanity. In my opinion, the potential is there, but it just falls into the webtoon "safe" trap, where no one wants to try anything different, and even if they do, they won't stray too far from the path, like what happened here to Existence.
There is actually quite a lot of series similar to Baphomet. One would be "Player who returned 10000 years later", "Return of the broken constellation" or "Martial Demon King" (which is the closest I guess tho the mc isn't as much of a psycho).
@@93Miquel Mangas are not manhwas. Multiple differences: Mangas (Japanese): -Read right to left -Black and white (usually) -Popular tropes include isekai Manhwas (Korean): -Read up to down -Very wide panels -Colored digitally -Mostly available only digitally, hence the term webcomic -Popular tropes include power fantasy, regression, etc. I notice a shit ton of people confuse these two and it gets kinda annoying due to noticeable differences.
I love it so much! Bathomet is so cute and I love how eventually we'll see his love for people grow. It'll be extra satisfactory since it'll be extra more difficult to open up since the people he started to care about DIED right in FRONT of him!!!!
Isekai is so common because it's easier to relate to the main character when they come from the same world as us. Though there are some that change things up in order to make you more initiated in the world... that's kind of the job of most other world fantasies, to get you interested in everything that makes that world go round. This is why isekai is a genre but not a standard for every story. Your main character can be anyone so long as the story introduces many points and ideas that is interesting in some way, be it complex characters, real world dilemmas introduced from a different, in not multiple, views, and even just a story meant to make you laugh. But I do love this story. It could be considered an isekai but I would say its something more like a tower fantasy (think tower of druaga) with the games brought to real world trope we often know and love, but the twist of a 👌︎□︎♎︎⍓︎ 💧︎⬥︎♋︎◻︎ MC who used to be a Boss Monster. (Feel free to translate the wingding reveal for chapter 15?-20?) So I would say a Humanized Modern Reverse Tower Fantasy
Realm of Myths and Legends. This for me is the perfect example of reverse isekai. It feels fresh and well written for me. The only problem is the release rate. But still good as it released hundreds of chapters already
I feel like the Isekai genre generally acts as a form of escapism- which isn't necessarily needed, but most have some kind of wish-fulfillment element. I've always had the idea of an isekai in which the protagonist slowly becomes the antagonist over the course of the entire story. I'd imagine it to initially look like the most bog-standard isekai out there- fantasy world, demon king, party of adventurers, random nobody gets brought in, and so on- and the protagonist initially believes it to be an escapist fantasy, and adores the world for it. Then, something terrible could happen that shatters the idea of it being an escapist fantasy, no clue what exactly that would be. You could also have drama surrounding characters in the party, as he realizes they're not walking stereotypes but actual people. You could write it in such a way where the protagonist becomes genuinely bitter that even in an entirely different world, things suck and aren't going his way. By the end he's the villain the party is facing down.
My favorite reverse Isekai is Dead mount Death play. It is one of pioneer mangas in that genre and i love how it combines that troupe with Durarara style story telling
You should try reading Hero has Returned/Warrior's Return. It's the aftermath of isekai, a hero returning to Earth but left with nothing, no family, no friends, no money, no home, and your life is basically ruined because of you missing for a year. I don't want to spoil anymore, but it everything gets explained in the later chapters. A really good and underrated read.
there is quite a lot of "affter coming back from the isekai" wich i would call "comeback isekai" that are published now, but this one is a really good one. I usually drop them cause it is more often than not: The op protagonist come back and do some magic stuff back on earth, were he is the most powerfull. But this one is not, and well deserve the dark fantasy title. Wich a plus for me. I can't say much more without spoilling but that is a good recomendation.
I have an isekai idea, just double isekai someone. The protagonist gets isekai'd as a nobody in the new world and has a complete adventure with a fulfilling life and friends, then either forcefully or willing leaves back to his original world where even though he spent decades in the alternate world only like 3 days passed, now the mc back to his boring life is starting to deal with the loss of his previous life and how much better it was for him. Suddenly after a month he gets re isekai'd but in this case he is sent to a world completely opposite to the original one he went to, in this world heroes get called forth to be used as slaves and cannon fodder for their wars. But since the protagonist is a veteran of this type of world he starts to create a slave rebellion. Mid point or start of the story would show a clue that both alternate worlds are connected and turns out he's just on a different continent after 200 hundred years passed due to the time difference between both worlds. Call it "the Veterans Second Try", "Deja Vu" or "a "veterans second visit to another world after a perfect life"..........
Horror to kawai: a person from a horror themed fantasy world of strife and terror gets summoned into a peaceful and cute fantasy world. Kawai to horror: a person from a peaceful and cute fantasy world gets summoned into a horror themed fantasy world of strife and terror. A sentient undead (underpowered) gets summoned into a world of angels and has to survive by hiding his true form. An angel (underpowered) gets summoned into world of undeads and has to survive by hidings his true form. A fantasy world person and the normal world person switches bodies every 24 hours. Neither of them know each other and they can't interact directly, but both have to work together so that neither of them would get exposes.
MMORPG NPC becomes self aware and realizes adventurers are really cruel and have no remorse over killing NPCs. Thus, he sets out to change his world and to banish all adventurers from the MMORPG.
Consider that there are a large group of people who think isekai started with SAO, so... what can you say? Consider that some shows suffer from biases because the shows were made after the "tropes" were made into memes and considered overused even if older stories that had not yet been produced into an anime had used the "tropes" better. It's all a matter of thinking.
You don't know how much frickin hyped and happy I am that you made this video about that manhwa, I'm so frickin happy that you found this gem too! I have been rereading this many times because of how unique it is. The character's design and story is very different and refreshing perspective in the isekai troupe.
When I think of reverse isekai I think of my absolute favorite manwha “The Hero Has Returned” which is a tragedy where the hero when they get back to their world he has nothing and no one is there to help him.
This trope has existed for a bit in LN circles and is called reverse isekai, the other reverse isekai generally also get called reverse isekai simply because we don’t have an official name everyone uses but we call it a bunch of different things to differentiate it.
Reverse isekai is "fantasy person isekaid into normal world", the "tower" and "sudden appearance of monsters and magic" stories aren't even always isekai of any kind. They're collisions of worlds, not someone displaced from their setting.
@@RyugaruSenbi still call em reverse isekai generally cause they don’t have a specific name. They got a lot of names like tower manga, or world fusion/collision etc. I generally call them scenario or hunter manga/manhwa
@@EliasExists yeah someone else in this comment section came up with "Isekai Fusion" cause it's often earth merging/connecting with a fantasy world. Since Isekai is also a regular word (roughly translates to "other world") I find that is a good name. It's just annoying to me because reverse isekai is a preestablished term for the whole "fantasy person is isekaid to earth" genre since at least The Devil is a part timer and that came out like ten years ago.
As someone who's read much of the newer chapters since they've been translated by asurascans, I will indeed say that the story has stayed consistently good which honestly surprised me a bit. Normally these kinds of stories go downhill quickly once the gimmick of their "unique take" on the isekai genre wears off but this hasn't done that yet.
Hero Has Returned is my favorite (dark) twist on the genre, where all the generic isekai heroes return from the worlds they saved and nothing seems to go right for them
I seriously love 'the greatest estate designer/developer' it is my fav to read and ive even read ttotcf, orv and many more. This manhwa is a one in a billion, litterally could not find any manhwa almost as funny and engaging. Please just try this out cus i promise u, you will not regret it.
Cleaning Life and I Was The Boss are both magnificent works. You should also read The Hero Returns for an incredibly dark take on the aftermath of isekai heroes being returned to Earth and then proceeding to go violently insane and causing unfathomable damage with the powers they gained while isekai'd.
Campfire Cooking In Another World With My Absurd Skill is my favorite. It's super vanilla but its wholesome as hell with so much cooking that I found mysels drooling over animated food!
Regardless of the rest of the video, your tone when you mentioned hardcore leveling warrior made me start reading it right after this video, I will put an edit after a few chapters but "My ABSOLUTE personal favorite" made me think yo, I HAVE to check this out. Love the enthusiasm you put into this stuff bro!
I’d recommend “the devil is a part timer.” it’s pretty similar, except it’s more slice of life… and there’s no towers. There are stand-ins for fast food restaurants, though.
Idk I'm a guy loves villains and I read and loved I'm the final boss sadly updates very slowly but the player who returned after 10000 years is something I think is really amazing as well(name might be a little off).The series is funny and, most importantly, to me is that Mc still has his evil essence he would have to have to survive in hell for 10000 yrs and loves to fck with people they can pose a possible treat to his plans. Some others like this as well "I am the fated villain" and "the return the crazy demon", all 4 are just goated probably some of the best in this genre where Mc is the villain
I am also sick of isekai but I absolutely adore those that use a similar trope (like reverse isekai) and write it very creatively. I love this series and loved it even more when I found out it's by the creator of It's Mine 🤩
Honestly, The World Afte the Fall is the manhwa which the biggest plot twist I have seen in a manhwa. It starts pretty generic but after a certain thing happens, it becomes at least somewhat original.
Somewhat original?? Na I don’t see any other manhwa have main characters that have an ability to see the concept of “Truth” and that don’t rely on the game system all of them have
@@eh1165 thanks, I’ve already read a good bit but I got distracted by other stuff so I dropped it but ill probably use this comment as a reason to pick it back up again
if you dig this check out death mount dead play lol. its a reverse iskea about the the lich at the bottom of labyrinth that once he dies he gets shot into a dead body in the modern day world. Its so intriguing and not shallow like I've seen some of this genre do
The best Isekai I have ever seen was Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash. The people transfered to the fantasy world don't have the benefit of post-industrial science therefor were not able to just McGyver their way to the top; they did not have any magical superpowers that makes boss monsters no more threatenting than a tutorial quest..non of the tired tropes we have come to identify Isekai by. Just ordinary kids who were forced to join a guild (without any F-S rankings...really more a Oliver Twist style Workhouse than an Isekai Adventurer Guild), choose a classical rpg-style "class" to be trained in and hope they survive..all just so they'd be allowed to eat and have a roof over the head...with no hope to ever becomming the great heroes, because such a thing is not even a concept. The first Isekai I have seen was El Hazard. The protags were transported to a new world, got some sort of ?superpowers?...The teacher got super strength and stamina...when he is sobre...which was rare enough since he is an alcoholic. The main protag has the ability to sense and activate the true function of machines and repair just about anything...also he looks like the missing princess. The main female has an uncanny ability to make money in any situation (not an isekai power, she was able to do this in the old world. The main Anta (also isekaied) got the ability to speak to bugs, which gained him Lord Commander authority over an utterly incompetent and dimwitted army...He'd be more of a force to be reconned with if he didn't have those insects. But most importantly, thePowers they got were intrinsically tied to their real world aptitudes. Back in the real world, the teacher, despite being a drunkard, enjoyed bouldering and hiking in his spare time; the main protag is a tech wiz who loved attempting practical experiments to theoretical science; the female protag is enteprenorial and loves money; the antagonis, two-years-in-a-row student president, is a sleezebag who considers his electorate just bugs to be ruled and sees himself as the only one deserving of authority.
I am going to recommend Dead Mount Death Play, an anime coming out this season, to you. IT isn't exactly what you're describing, but it is a character from a fantasy setting with phenomenal power thrust into the real world. By the guy who did Baccano and Durarara, and I think Celty has made a cameo already.
Yeah. I like isekai, except for a couple sub genres, but I will agree most are just a way to kill a few minutes. Though the ones that try and actually create a great story are some of my favorites. I think the best are ones that realistic design characters and look seriously at deeper issues or morality
It's definitely a trope, and that's what I've been calling reverse isekai, like the the devil is a part timer I do enjoy the "you though you were all powerful but you're just a chump that happened to reincarnate in this world" trope
2:20 sounds like The Devil is a Part Timer, or The Great Jahy Will Not Be Defeated. Both of those drag the demon lord into the real world where they get stuck living as normal people. Personally, I will watch at least the first few episodes of any isekai that releases, but my favorites are the ones where the protagonist earns the power in some way or another. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime shows you where each of Rimuru's initial powers come from, and further on you can see how he combines them to create unique abilities. Season 2 did a great job of curbstomping the main characters for the first half, so payback genuinely feels amazing later on. Rising of the Shield Hero does something similar, where Naofumi has to unlock and understand his shield's abilities while being treated like crap because the princess lied about him raping her. Arifureta has the main character getting his ass kicked from day one, getting lost in the depths of a dungeon and losing an arm and an eye right off the bat, and he only survives by enduring excruciating pain from eating monster meat, which basically rips his entire body apart and would kill him if he hadn't lucked into the literal source of holy water. In some cases their power comes from luck, but they definitely pay for it in some way or another.
Completely taking back everything that happened and stamping it in as law that there is no stakes and there never will be is not what i would call satisfying. Slime season 2 was a shitshow if you forgot for a second to turn your brain off
A lot of Korean anime will feature ranking, level up systems with visible heads up displays only visible by the character. Every 0 to hero Korean animation will feature this system for some reason and it’s very saturated, but Japanese anime don’t use this system too often. Japanese isekai can lead in many directions such as being summoned with no powers, having the ability to respawn and keep memories, being over power, or an average no body. Japanese isekai can lead to many different scenarios, while Korean animation usually has a leveling or ranking system. It’s important to notice the differences in the 2 types of animation.
A possible reason comes from the fact that South Korean's had computers as their primary platform for video games instead of consoles in 1980s, 90s and 2000's. Computer's have a different style of RPG with more emphasis on individual skill levels with stats such as daggerfall, Morowind, Everquest when compared to the FF or DQ games. South Korean's have a racist/historical dislike of the Japanese due to their history, and the Japanese have a similar view. Obviously not everyone has this view, and it is going away. The Generation that suffered under Japanese occupation is now dead, but it was a brutal occupation and it lasted for decades (1910-1945). Then the South Korean dictatorship used hatred of the "other" (Japanese in this case), to get people to overlook it's own brutality.
You exaggerate the variety in Japanese isekai. 99% of it uses the same litrpg mechanics, with the same letter ranking systems, with largely the same monsters.
Yeah, Japanese use either JRPG or Visual Novel Simulators Stats It's weird to say japanese don't use that. Koreans use Ranks but mostly with Male Isekais or BL, Female Isekais might have stats but rarely, even if action based. Honestly Japanese ones got grating and I don't read many ML (Korean) Isekais often enough to see it but every summary almost feels like the same issue ML isekais JPN LN/Anime/Mangas have, a consistent repetition, however, not to say FL ones aren't with their own issues.
@@kyaksachan502 In general, the power fantasy genre is rife with mediocrity and copying the 2-3 templates that "work". Korean wns are not exempt, they just use different templates, same with Chinese ones.
If anyone want a unique isekai manhwa with plot twists that spins ur head around and a story that will make even the gigachad shed tears, read "Hero Has Returned"
Isekai struggles from what I heard is called kirito syndrome. Society has this problem where it has trouble adopting innovation. An established franchise or basic formula will always beat out anything new or original. Isekais are similar. Sword art online was a video game isekai with a popular character, kirito. The series became popular, to the point of disgust, apparently, and it caused several mangaka to steal kirito’s design. Those who didn’t steal it, inverted it. That’s where we got our satou kazumas and Natsuki Subarus. Artists were so desperate to become famous, that they perpetually borrowed from works that came before it. These works became popular, and got ripped off as well, in a chain reaction. If something becomes popular, it will be copied and altered endlessly. It’s just because… people are afraid to fail, so they will struggle to reinvent the wheel, and will copy whatever is popular at the time.
A amazing manga that does so much with the Isekai is "hero has returned" or something similar, it's awesome and I'll reply to my comment to put the spoilers so if you don't want to see them don't click
So in short what happens is you see a guy die and get isekaid into the super generic Isekai world where he needs to defeat the demon king, but the whole adventure is skipped because that's not what the story is about, so after defeating the demon king he goes back to his world where he finds out his mom killed herself and his dad died for another reason, and he learns about a bunch of other bad stuff that happened for the like 3 years he was gone, then he just goes berserk and kills everyone in sight and goes on a absolute rampage, then he kills the mc and the mc gets sent to another world, then that's all skipped he defeats the demon king yada yada, he comes back to find out that all of Korea is split between different "heroes" (other people who returned after going to another world) and he is after the "sword-hero" (the person from the beginning) and will kill anyone who stands with him. There's much more to it and it's amazing, if you want to know the rest then go read it yourself
The one I'm currently obsessed with is: Pick Me Up, Infinite Gacha. I have only ever played 1 gacha game, AFK Arena, and at one point I had wondered what it would be like to be one of the heroes, that what if they really do die forever? What if you decided to Favour a hero because they ALWAYS made it out alive, not realizing they just CANT die or else they would die forever?
I just had an idea and thought to share, it's incredibly long, be warned. Have you heard the saying "you either due the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"? What if there was a story that started with of as a F to S rank story, and it done it well, he grew and he learned and it was beautiful and it could in it's own right be a great story, but after the first half of, an admittedly long storyline, he falls, he's beaten the bad guy, saved the world, made a difference, only to see the exact day after the consequences of his actions, an entire Legion of people, leaderless, in shambles, descending into chaos, but the people who were thought to be the good guys, refuse to help, "they're just (insert 'bad guy' species/tribe), why should we help?", And when the mc trues to help they refuse, he's the villain in their story, they know if the squadrons he's murdered, villages razed to the ground under the preconception that, they're all bad, but the 'good guys find out and accuse him of being heresy/treason, and when he tries to plead his case that they're not all bad, it cements their thoughts about the idea, and he's sentenced to death, a fall from grace, only to go back to the start, but on the opposite side, knowing what he knows about the 'good guys', he decides to see if the other side is better, only yo find, it's actually pretty nice, and that the 'good' people, were the ones that started it all in the name of greed, and story starts again but from a different perspective, and with new knowledge, and a different story, ultimately coming to a much better conclusion of an, initially, less then stable peace, only to see it grow, eventually being even greater then either side were alone, this concluding the story of a rise to greatness and fall from grace. This is incredibly long, apologies.😅
i mean there are a few (2 come to my mind rn) ones which are, what i personally also believe to be the true reverse isekai (fantasy person thrown into modern day), like [How I Came to Live Out in the Country with a Female Knight Who Showed Up at My Place] as example.
You should watch Now & Then, Here & There. It's a deconstruction of the Isekai genre and, just to give you an idea about how unlike normal isekai it is, director Akitaroh Daichi was inspired by the Rwandan Genocide. Also it came out in 1999.
I could only get a few chapters into I Was The Final Boss. Not really sure what I expected, but I didn't want a "I was super powered but plot happened and now I have to recover my power"
The trope is reverse isekai. The fantasy world getting copy-pasted on earth or such is actually a different trope. Dragon Maid, Devil is a Part-timer, and one about a female knight & a farmer are examples of reverse isekai.
I read this on a whim. It was a you had my curiosity now you have my attention thing after his friends got cool. I like the idea of our "hero" getting more demonic power by ironically becoming more human.
One of my new favorites (that has a ver y complicated development for anything other than the novel) is one called Lord of the Mysteries. It's a reincarnated into a supernatural world type scenario, but the power system revolves around potions. The abilities each character has is given a specific definition, and it is in a steampunk world setting. However, the manga had mediocre quality and stopped for stupid reasons. Heard rumors an anime adaption was in the works, however. It is also supposed to be part of a trilogy, and part 2 started earlier this year.
most korean "tower or system" manhwas do the S to F to S Those mostly belong to the Shit Tier with 200+ chapters on average(sure some are hidden gems) and the "opposite isekai" you already have a bit of them things such as "The Great Jahy Will Not Be Defeated" or "The Devil is a Part-Timer" as for the genre, its name is "Non-Human Protagonists" but i would consider this a "person in a strange world" whether you consider a demon lord or a slime as a person depends on you
I have been reading something called pick me up where he gets transported into this mobile game hes been playing. Its like a Gatha game. It turns out the Gatchas you summon are real people you basically put through hell. Thats the gist of it. Hes summoned as a common one star hero but uses his knowledge of the game to survive. Its pretty cool
Hy I am currently reading "worthless Regression". I am so in to Isekai but this is completely different. I don't want to soil to much but it hooked me during the first 10 chapters. I would Highly recommend it to you.
I forgot to say this manga ist really well written and has one of the best Moments and the Charakter ist soooo relatebe. And around Chapter 40 ist one of the most heartbreaking Moments in my Isekai reading history.
Spoiler: MC is an actual talentless character, having to, at one point, spend 2000 years training to reach a point the other talented characters reached within a few years. Like OP said, a great story that I highly recommend
Yeah can't say I have read a comic like this before, think I found it a month ago. Shame it is so short. I usually ignore comics with less than fifty chapters but this one seemed interesting. Been enjoying korean manwhas, easier for their stuff to get exposure compared to smaller Japanese comics. Between webtoon and other companies there is a good supply of them. Not to mention I enjoy color being the standard.
You should try "Hero has Returned". Which starts with a hero returning AFTER having had the complete hero's journey behind him just to get back to his normal life. But after having been away for that time the world does not accept him with open arms. His school assumes he's a good for nothing and refuses to accept him. One parent died while trying to find him and the other took their own life. Their relatives abandon him since the search for him ruined them financially and he's basically outcast from all of society...but he came back with all his powers and let's just say things get real messy real fast. And that's just the first chapter and honestly many many more chapters feel like they could be a season itself and yet the writer delivers all of that and more over and over again while not making it obvious where this all leads up to until much later where a lot things start to make a lot more sense. EDIT: wrong managa title, changed it
the beginning of the end (don't know if it's true or not but I read this was also getting animated somewhere? comment if it's true), the irregular's return magic should be special (supposedly getting animated or working in production in winter of this year.), omniseinetreadersviewpoint, tomb raider king, raising sss- class monsters, sss- class suicide hunter, everyone else is a return, solo max level newbies, are good representations of a good isekai
Devil is a Part-timer. Demon Lord and minion get teleported to earth. He decides to take it over by working his way up the cooperate chain at a McDonalds parody.
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I love the protagonist he's so complex and well written, he's basically a reverse isekai final boss protagonist lol
FFF Class Hero
@@tonygbeulie8462 ayup
Well written? Ok bro
@@t0jo853 yeah, have u seen how repetitive omnipotent reader gets?… sure I love the series, but I had to take a 1-2 month break at cp 400 and a 3 month break at chapter 500 due to how repetitive it got, also, (spoilers) all the suicide, *way too many* and he just doesn’t learn, and their is literally, better options in some of these arcs, but nope, suicide, his death count at the end of the series is like 10+. (But to be fair, chapters 1-300~ are pretty good, also, between 400-550 it starts using some good plot ideas, and story writing ideas, but also to give some slack: the LN is written by an old couple… soooo yeah, also, (more spoilers) they do give themselves a cameo at the end of the series as well as an explanation, so if u want, go read that, that was tbh, one of the better parts of the ending that I liked.
Ohh yes
You know what would be very fresh and new? A good series that has a satysfying end!
if you've ever seen a lot of movies or shows you'd know how rare those are there as well
not to mention even books - once you leave the mainstream ones behind you'll rarely find good endings
same applies too mangas/manhwas
it's what makes those superb shows and stories stick with you for longer than just a few weeks
and if you yourself think back - i'd bet not a lot of those met that criteria
that's also the reason why so many authors choose to have open endings so the reader can choose their own ending because they know they'll never be able to satisfy selfish people (you - i make that assumption simply because of the comment you've left behind)
enjoy the story
appreciate the art and music
read the story instead of just skimming over every chapter that has just been released on the prob 20+ stories you're reading at the same time
or as the saying goes "enjoy the art"
@@MHCranbeary Wanting a satisfying ending to a series is not a selfish thing to ask for💀
By writing a story with any plot the author promises a conclusion, and a lot of the time authors are lazy and just leave planning an ending till the last moment, which leaves us with a trash finale.
@@Ozone946 Or if you've ever written a story yourself you might know that starting it is easy - keeping it engaging is practice - but it having a good ending it most likely the hardest part ever - even if you put in hours of work and training you will never get solid endings everytime
hence the selfish part
if you want something nearly impossible why don't you do it yourself and proof your point?
Goh and hardcore leveling
@@MHCranbeary Well, no one says it's easy. In fact rarely ANYTHING good is easy to make - be that software, hardware, blueprints, protocols, architectural design, etc. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't want to have something good. For goodness sake its not that trivial to do even something as common as a house, yet you won't ever say that you should be satisfyed with dodgy house with leaky roof, bad insulation, leaky faucets, etc. Why so? Do you think that it is easy to build a good roof? Or is it easy to install good plumbing? Well maybe you would be satisfied with crappy os? By your logic you should be properly contend with an OS that bsods every few minutes - since you know, its hella hard to create a wholeblown os, so you should just apreciate the work that has been put in it!
You see the problem with that way of thinking? I do.
Not to mention that A LOT of serieses are made to NEVER end, just to continue making money while it lasts(which in turn nearly always degrades in half-assed storielines, fillers, continuety errors, redcons, macguffins, deus ex machinas, etc.). All i want is selfcontained story with an ending - which a scarcity due to the way entertaiment industry operates nowadays.
I think in this case, reverse isekai is a fitting name for the trope. Think "The Devil is a Part-Timer" type of trope. The "reverse isekai" you mentioned was more of an incursion of worlds, think gates and dungeons.
Yeah I was thinking the reverse is usually when a hero is yeeted into our world one way or another. What he was saying didn't really mesh. Like they can both happen but its more meant as someone from another world is reincarnated or thrown into our world
To start with, what part of the story was supposed to be isekai?
Isekai, as a term, means other world, yet the main character goes from his fantasy world to his fantasy world. As in, he doesn't go fucking anywhere.
The "correct" term for this would be tensei, which translates to reincarnation.
In either case, the story seems to be nothing more than just another power fantasy.
The story started with an okay premise - Some powerful evil entity giving up it's power in exchange to be free, but it spared no time in giving back the main character all his power, because apparently we can't have an MC that has to cope with his own weakness and learn lessons from that; Or an MC that actually has to deal with the consequences of his own decisions.
i've always taken "reverse isekai" to mean the otherworlder brought into the ordinary contemporary world, since it was that sort of trope i saw the "reverse isekai" label appended to the most. if we need another word for that trope, or the incursion of worlds, "inverse" would be my suggestion, though i'm not sure if east asian languages have a similar but distinct word to fill that role
This isn't really a reverse isekai. It's more just a slightly dressed up trapped in a tutorial tower trope. Ridiculously OP guy gets isekai'd into a developed portal fantasy world sometimes with some loss in powers that he gets back and instantly is invincible and will never struggle ever again and has the exact same personality as every other character with this trope.
if I'm allowed to do a recommendation. An Isekai done right subverting the trappings of the genre is "trash of the count family". It ignores the S-F rank bullshit, the random harems, the undeserved systems that give out power due to completely unjustified reasons and all that jazz. Highly recommend it, one of the few stories that made me read the light novel after finishing the webtoon
Agreed. A very good read.
Was reading the LN but forgot where I left
Haven't read it since but remember it was good
I forgot that was an isekai
adapted to anime yet ?
@@waraiid no
Drug eating genius mage is really an interesting concept. He gets isekai into a cyberpunk dystopian world with mage powers.
I’ve been going back and forth about that one. The name is hilarious 😭
Is that a real story
@@jacobwhitehurst4983 yeah, im actually caught up on it myself. It's surprisingly good. It's literally cyberpunk with magic lmao. Can't wait for more chapters myself
Edit: I'm referring specifically to the manga/manhwa, not the book lmao
@@jacobwhitehurst4983 its actually good ngl, you'll understand the name when you get like 3 chapters in lol
It sounds like the inverse of "screw Magic, i have giant robots"
The Devil Is a Part-Timer
So glad to see someone talk about titles i just started or titles that i absolutely loved🎉
HCLW was an absolute blast
Halfway trough the first episode of I was the Final Boss I went "🤨" without realizing why and then saw It's Mine in their other works and realized it's made by LuckS
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Honestly I'd love you to talk on Existence, it feels just so fresh, everyones prospective feels very logical, characters feel very real and the world is just our world. Not altered in any way with just two exceptions. It's incredibly gripping and maybe has the potential to be my fave webtoon ever.
I read it because of this comment today and it made me cry, thank you for this recommendation! I'll definitely keep up with it 👍
Lol dropped it after like 20 chapters. Initially, it was really good but when they started to play cant hurt girl cuz she looks like mum thing I just started to lose interest and I cant stand the stupidity of the girl bro like what
@@zikrytony True, but I hope it turns for the better again 👍
I disagree, I liked existence at the start because I thought It would explore the duality of human nature, Where the Mc would experience all that humanity has to offer, then finally come to making a decision on what to do about it. But then after the Wipe it's like we forget that he was never created to destroy, He made the choice, they created a completely blank slate out of an already compelling character, and then created an unnecessary conflict that completely disregards already established concepts. (SPOILERS AHEAD)
The memory wipe isn't the problem, the problem is what they decided to do after that,
they had an original concept, then completely threw it away for generic safe tropes, I mean come on, I feel like it would have been more compelling if the mc managed to form a true connection despite his disposition instead of just forcing the connection with a memory wipe, and then the fact that they try to insinuate that he is an organism designed to kill and ohhh he doesn't have to do that, is just disappointing, as it strips him of any growth that he had before, because remember, he had no interest in anything after so many years, then he experienced the love of a mother being ripped from him, plus other things, making him then CHOOSE that, yes he truly does want to destroy humanity.
In my opinion, the potential is there, but it just falls into the webtoon "safe" trap, where no one wants to try anything different, and even if they do, they won't stray too far from the path, like what happened here to Existence.
There is actually quite a lot of series similar to Baphomet. One would be "Player who returned 10000 years later", "Return of the broken constellation" or "Martial Demon King" (which is the closest I guess tho the mc isn't as much of a psycho).
Yeah those are really good and enjoyable manga’s, isekai is just getting stale after solo leveling stopt. New solo leveling chapters are interesting.
@@93Miquel perhaps but even if isekai is known as trash it's MY precious trash
I also enjoy fanfics that work with the premise of an isekai xD
@@93Miquel Mangas are not manhwas. Multiple differences:
Mangas (Japanese):
-Read right to left
-Black and white (usually)
-Popular tropes include isekai
Manhwas (Korean):
-Read up to down
-Very wide panels
-Colored digitally
-Mostly available only digitally, hence the term webcomic
-Popular tropes include power fantasy, regression, etc.
I notice a shit ton of people confuse these two and it gets kinda annoying due to noticeable differences.
i love the way he explains the manga, its a breath of fresh air when compared to all the others.
Thank you for helping me fuel my Isekai addiction with content that doesn't make me despise my taste as much
I love it so much! Bathomet is so cute and I love how eventually we'll see his love for people grow. It'll be extra satisfactory since it'll be extra more difficult to open up since the people he started to care about DIED right in FRONT of him!!!!
What's the name of manga?
@@Luiz-zy6nn I was the final boss
@@somo522 Tkans
Isekai is so common because it's easier to relate to the main character when they come from the same world as us. Though there are some that change things up in order to make you more initiated in the world... that's kind of the job of most other world fantasies, to get you interested in everything that makes that world go round. This is why isekai is a genre but not a standard for every story. Your main character can be anyone so long as the story introduces many points and ideas that is interesting in some way, be it complex characters, real world dilemmas introduced from a different, in not multiple, views, and even just a story meant to make you laugh.
But I do love this story. It could be considered an isekai but I would say its something more like a tower fantasy (think tower of druaga) with the games brought to real world trope we often know and love, but the twist of a 👌︎□︎♎︎⍓︎ 💧︎⬥︎♋︎◻︎ MC who used to be a Boss Monster. (Feel free to translate the wingding reveal for chapter 15?-20?)
So I would say a Humanized Modern Reverse Tower Fantasy
Isekai is so common because the idea of getting a second chance at life in a world that we feel we fit into better is intoxicating.
@@Tracker947 exactly. It is relatable=easy to put yourself into their shoes=easier to think "I would be like 'this' if i was in that position."
I love how when he says "a normal everyday person" at 1:21 he brings up John from "unordinary" of all people 🤣🤣🤣
Realm of Myths and Legends. This for me is the perfect example of reverse isekai. It feels fresh and well written for me. The only problem is the release rate. But still good as it released hundreds of chapters already
Is it a novel?
@@神林しマイケル yes
This sounds like “The Devil is a part-timer”.
I feel like the Isekai genre generally acts as a form of escapism- which isn't necessarily needed, but most have some kind of wish-fulfillment element. I've always had the idea of an isekai in which the protagonist slowly becomes the antagonist over the course of the entire story. I'd imagine it to initially look like the most bog-standard isekai out there- fantasy world, demon king, party of adventurers, random nobody gets brought in, and so on- and the protagonist initially believes it to be an escapist fantasy, and adores the world for it.
Then, something terrible could happen that shatters the idea of it being an escapist fantasy, no clue what exactly that would be. You could also have drama surrounding characters in the party, as he realizes they're not walking stereotypes but actual people. You could write it in such a way where the protagonist becomes genuinely bitter that even in an entirely different world, things suck and aren't going his way. By the end he's the villain the party is facing down.
My favorite reverse Isekai is Dead mount Death play. It is one of pioneer mangas in that genre and i love how it combines that troupe with Durarara style story telling
hooo this one seems good glad i have read your comment added to my to read list
You should try reading Hero has Returned/Warrior's Return. It's the aftermath of isekai, a hero returning to Earth but left with nothing, no family, no friends, no money, no home, and your life is basically ruined because of you missing for a year. I don't want to spoil anymore, but it everything gets explained in the later chapters. A really good and underrated read.
there is quite a lot of "affter coming back from the isekai" wich i would call "comeback isekai" that are published now, but this one is a really good one. I usually drop them cause it is more often than not: The op protagonist come back and do some magic stuff back on earth, were he is the most powerfull. But this one is not, and well deserve the dark fantasy title. Wich a plus for me. I can't say much more without spoilling but that is a good recomendation.
I have an isekai idea, just double isekai someone. The protagonist gets isekai'd as a nobody in the new world and has a complete adventure with a fulfilling life and friends, then either forcefully or willing leaves back to his original world where even though he spent decades in the alternate world only like 3 days passed, now the mc back to his boring life is starting to deal with the loss of his previous life and how much better it was for him. Suddenly after a month he gets re isekai'd but in this case he is sent to a world completely opposite to the original one he went to, in this world heroes get called forth to be used as slaves and cannon fodder for their wars. But since the protagonist is a veteran of this type of world he starts to create a slave rebellion. Mid point or start of the story would show a clue that both alternate worlds are connected and turns out he's just on a different continent after 200 hundred years passed due to the time difference between both worlds. Call it "the Veterans Second Try", "Deja Vu" or "a "veterans second visit to another world after a perfect life"..........
Horror to kawai: a person from a horror themed fantasy world of strife and terror gets summoned into a peaceful and cute fantasy world.
Kawai to horror: a person from a peaceful and cute fantasy world gets summoned into a horror themed fantasy world of strife and terror.
A sentient undead (underpowered) gets summoned into a world of angels and has to survive by hiding his true form.
An angel (underpowered) gets summoned into world of undeads and has to survive by hidings his true form.
A fantasy world person and the normal world person switches bodies every 24 hours. Neither of them know each other and they can't interact directly, but both have to work together so that neither of them would get exposes.
MMORPG NPC becomes self aware and realizes adventurers are really cruel and have no remorse over killing NPCs. Thus, he sets out to change his world and to banish all adventurers from the MMORPG.
Reminds me of rich or famous people who just want to be normal
here's a story to read read hero has returned AKA warrior has returned
It's hard to say it's new considering the anime 'The Devil is a Part Timer' did this nearly a Decade ago.
Consider that there are a large group of people who think isekai started with SAO, so... what can you say? Consider that some shows suffer from biases because the shows were made after the "tropes" were made into memes and considered overused even if older stories that had not yet been produced into an anime had used the "tropes" better. It's all a matter of thinking.
You don't know how much frickin hyped and happy I am that you made this video about that manhwa, I'm so frickin happy that you found this gem too! I have been rereading this many times because of how unique it is. The character's design and story is very different and refreshing perspective in the isekai troupe.
What's the sauce?
Name?
When I think of reverse isekai I think of my absolute favorite manwha “The Hero Has Returned” which is a tragedy where the hero when they get back to their world he has nothing and no one is there to help him.
Hataraku Maō-sama! (The Devil Is a Part-Timer!)...
This trope has existed for a bit in LN circles and is called reverse isekai, the other reverse isekai generally also get called reverse isekai simply because we don’t have an official name everyone uses but we call it a bunch of different things to differentiate it.
Reverse isekai is "fantasy person isekaid into normal world", the "tower" and "sudden appearance of monsters and magic" stories aren't even always isekai of any kind. They're collisions of worlds, not someone displaced from their setting.
They're reverse isekai only from the monsters perspective.
@@RyugaruSenbi still call em reverse isekai generally cause they don’t have a specific name. They got a lot of names like tower manga, or world fusion/collision etc. I generally call them scenario or hunter manga/manhwa
@@EliasExists yeah someone else in this comment section came up with "Isekai Fusion" cause it's often earth merging/connecting with a fantasy world. Since Isekai is also a regular word (roughly translates to "other world") I find that is a good name. It's just annoying to me because reverse isekai is a preestablished term for the whole "fantasy person is isekaid to earth" genre since at least The Devil is a part timer and that came out like ten years ago.
As someone who's read much of the newer chapters since they've been translated by asurascans, I will indeed say that the story has stayed consistently good which honestly surprised me a bit. Normally these kinds of stories go downhill quickly once the gimmick of their "unique take" on the isekai genre wears off but this hasn't done that yet.
Meant to say flamescans not asurascans my bad
What's the title?
@@Tofublob I Used To Be A Boss
Hero Has Returned is my favorite (dark) twist on the genre, where all the generic isekai heroes return from the worlds they saved and nothing seems to go right for them
shy chef you gotta be one of favorite youtube manga readers bro you liek hclw just like me tbh I love tihs
I seriously love 'the greatest estate designer/developer' it is my fav to read and ive even read ttotcf, orv and many more.
This manhwa is a one in a billion, litterally could not find any manhwa almost as funny and engaging.
Please just try this out cus i promise u, you will not regret it.
Cleaning Life and I Was The Boss are both magnificent works. You should also read The Hero Returns for an incredibly dark take on the aftermath of isekai heroes being returned to Earth and then proceeding to go violently insane and causing unfathomable damage with the powers they gained while isekai'd.
The manga is called "I used to be a boss."
You know who did this first? The devil is a part timer
I swear every time I start reading a reading a new series This shyguy makes a video on it
i love that you used the UnOrdinary john silhouette at 1:20 damn i love that manhwa
Campfire Cooking In Another World With My Absurd Skill is my favorite. It's super vanilla but its wholesome as hell with so much cooking that I found mysels drooling over animated food!
Regardless of the rest of the video, your tone when you mentioned hardcore leveling warrior made me start reading it right after this video, I will put an edit after a few chapters but "My ABSOLUTE personal favorite" made me think yo, I HAVE to check this out.
Love the enthusiasm you put into this stuff bro!
I’d recommend “the devil is a part timer.” it’s pretty similar, except it’s more slice of life… and there’s no towers. There are stand-ins for fast food restaurants, though.
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It's also terribly paced and trite.
@@Tracker947 personally, I just watch it for fun. I think the dub’s entertaining.
@@Tracker947 it is a big manga
@@metroboonk5961 Ah, I should have specified. I meant the anime. Mb
The name shall be Inverse Isekai
Idk I'm a guy loves villains and I read and loved I'm the final boss sadly updates very slowly but the player who returned after 10000 years is something I think is really amazing as well(name might be a little off).The series is funny and, most importantly, to me is that Mc still has his evil essence he would have to have to survive in hell for 10000 yrs and loves to fck with people they can pose a possible treat to his plans. Some others like this as well "I am the fated villain" and "the return the crazy demon", all 4 are just goated probably some of the best in this genre where Mc is the villain
Campfire cooking in another world with my absurd ability and restaurant to another world are fun twists on isekai
A powerful and menacing final boss of a dungeon playing games on a smartphone is an image that I sorely love xD
I am also sick of isekai but I absolutely adore those that use a similar trope (like reverse isekai) and write it very creatively. I love this series and loved it even more when I found out it's by the creator of It's Mine 🤩
Not the omniscient reader's viewpoint pfp👀
@@eh1165 😏
Name: I used to be a boss (manhwa)
warrior's return/the hero has returned is also pretty good
A fantastic example might be "The Warrior Returns" if you can stomach despair
Honestly, The World Afte the Fall is the manhwa which the biggest plot twist I have seen in a manhwa. It starts pretty generic but after a certain thing happens, it becomes at least somewhat original.
You are a man of taste.
Somewhat original?? Na I don’t see any other manhwa have main characters that have an ability to see the concept of “Truth” and that don’t rely on the game system all of them have
@@someguyy194_2 you should read omniscient reader's viewpoint
@@eh1165 thanks, I’ve already read a good bit but I got distracted by other stuff so I dropped it but ill probably use this comment as a reason to pick it back up again
@@eh1165 both are perfect and not overrated unlike Solo Leveling.
I got a good couple of hearty laughs, off of the healthcare system jokes
if you dig this check out death mount dead play lol. its a reverse iskea about the the lich at the bottom of labyrinth that once he dies he gets shot into a dead body in the modern day world. Its so intriguing and not shallow like I've seen some of this genre do
Yeah, I'm with you - don't know what it's called, but The Devil is a Part-Timer did this quite a while back. I agree, it usually turns out fun.
Orv is kind of like a reverse isekai but it just keeps adding to the rabbit hole.
The best Isekai I have ever seen was Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash. The people transfered to the fantasy world don't have the benefit of post-industrial science therefor were not able to just McGyver their way to the top; they did not have any magical superpowers that makes boss monsters no more threatenting than a tutorial quest..non of the tired tropes we have come to identify Isekai by. Just ordinary kids who were forced to join a guild (without any F-S rankings...really more a Oliver Twist style Workhouse than an Isekai Adventurer Guild), choose a classical rpg-style "class" to be trained in and hope they survive..all just so they'd be allowed to eat and have a roof over the head...with no hope to ever becomming the great heroes, because such a thing is not even a concept.
The first Isekai I have seen was El Hazard. The protags were transported to a new world, got some sort of ?superpowers?...The teacher got super strength and stamina...when he is sobre...which was rare enough since he is an alcoholic. The main protag has the ability to sense and activate the true function of machines and repair just about anything...also he looks like the missing princess. The main female has an uncanny ability to make money in any situation (not an isekai power, she was able to do this in the old world. The main Anta (also isekaied) got the ability to speak to bugs, which gained him Lord Commander authority over an utterly incompetent and dimwitted army...He'd be more of a force to be reconned with if he didn't have those insects. But most importantly, thePowers they got were intrinsically tied to their real world aptitudes. Back in the real world, the teacher, despite being a drunkard, enjoyed bouldering and hiking in his spare time; the main protag is a tech wiz who loved attempting practical experiments to theoretical science; the female protag is enteprenorial and loves money; the antagonis, two-years-in-a-row student president, is a sleezebag who considers his electorate just bugs to be ruled and sees himself as the only one deserving of authority.
I am going to recommend Dead Mount Death Play, an anime coming out this season, to you. IT isn't exactly what you're describing, but it is a character from a fantasy setting with phenomenal power thrust into the real world. By the guy who did Baccano and Durarara, and I think Celty has made a cameo already.
“The devil is a part timer,” that’s what you’re talking about
Isekai is fast food anime. Im glad “good” isekai are on the uprising. Its nice to see people making an effort
Yeah. I like isekai, except for a couple sub genres, but I will agree most are just a way to kill a few minutes. Though the ones that try and actually create a great story are some of my favorites. I think the best are ones that realistic design characters and look seriously at deeper issues or morality
It's definitely a trope, and that's what I've been calling reverse isekai, like the the devil is a part timer
I do enjoy the "you though you were all powerful but you're just a chump that happened to reincarnate in this world" trope
Everything always reminds me of how fff class trashero is peak and I cry every time I remember it’s completed prematurely
2:20 sounds like The Devil is a Part Timer, or The Great Jahy Will Not Be Defeated. Both of those drag the demon lord into the real world where they get stuck living as normal people. Personally, I will watch at least the first few episodes of any isekai that releases, but my favorites are the ones where the protagonist earns the power in some way or another. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime shows you where each of Rimuru's initial powers come from, and further on you can see how he combines them to create unique abilities. Season 2 did a great job of curbstomping the main characters for the first half, so payback genuinely feels amazing later on. Rising of the Shield Hero does something similar, where Naofumi has to unlock and understand his shield's abilities while being treated like crap because the princess lied about him raping her. Arifureta has the main character getting his ass kicked from day one, getting lost in the depths of a dungeon and losing an arm and an eye right off the bat, and he only survives by enduring excruciating pain from eating monster meat, which basically rips his entire body apart and would kill him if he hadn't lucked into the literal source of holy water. In some cases their power comes from luck, but they definitely pay for it in some way or another.
Completely taking back everything that happened and stamping it in as law that there is no stakes and there never will be is not what i would call satisfying. Slime season 2 was a shitshow if you forgot for a second to turn your brain off
A lot of Korean anime will feature ranking, level up systems with visible heads up displays only visible by the character. Every 0 to hero Korean animation will feature this system for some reason and it’s very saturated, but Japanese anime don’t use this system too often. Japanese isekai can lead in many directions such as being summoned with no powers, having the ability to respawn and keep memories, being over power, or an average no body. Japanese isekai can lead to many different scenarios, while Korean animation usually has a leveling or ranking system. It’s important to notice the differences in the 2 types of animation.
Dumbass Korea doesn't have something like anime, they don't do that sh*t
A possible reason comes from the fact that South Korean's had computers as their primary platform for video games instead of consoles in 1980s, 90s and 2000's. Computer's have a different style of RPG with more emphasis on individual skill levels with stats such as daggerfall, Morowind, Everquest when compared to the FF or DQ games.
South Korean's have a racist/historical dislike of the Japanese due to their history, and the Japanese have a similar view. Obviously not everyone has this view, and it is going away. The Generation that suffered under Japanese occupation is now dead, but it was a brutal occupation and it lasted for decades (1910-1945). Then the South Korean dictatorship used hatred of the "other" (Japanese in this case), to get people to overlook it's own brutality.
You exaggerate the variety in Japanese isekai. 99% of it uses the same litrpg mechanics, with the same letter ranking systems, with largely the same monsters.
Yeah, Japanese use either JRPG or Visual Novel Simulators Stats It's weird to say japanese don't use that. Koreans use Ranks but mostly with Male Isekais or BL, Female Isekais might have stats but rarely, even if action based. Honestly Japanese ones got grating and I don't read many ML (Korean) Isekais often enough to see it but every summary almost feels like the same issue ML isekais JPN LN/Anime/Mangas have, a consistent repetition, however, not to say FL ones aren't with their own issues.
@@kyaksachan502 In general, the power fantasy genre is rife with mediocrity and copying the 2-3 templates that "work". Korean wns are not exempt, they just use different templates, same with Chinese ones.
If anyone want a unique isekai manhwa with plot twists that spins ur head around and a story that will make even the gigachad shed tears, read "Hero Has Returned"
Isekai struggles from what I heard is called kirito syndrome.
Society has this problem where it has trouble adopting innovation.
An established franchise or basic formula will always beat out anything new or original.
Isekais are similar. Sword art online was a video game isekai with a popular character, kirito.
The series became popular, to the point of disgust, apparently, and it caused several mangaka to steal kirito’s design. Those who didn’t steal it, inverted it. That’s where we got our satou kazumas and Natsuki Subarus.
Artists were so desperate to become famous, that they perpetually borrowed from works that came before it.
These works became popular, and got ripped off as well, in a chain reaction.
If something becomes popular, it will be copied and altered endlessly.
It’s just because… people are afraid to fail, so they will struggle to reinvent the wheel, and will copy whatever is popular at the time.
A amazing manga that does so much with the Isekai is "hero has returned" or something similar, it's awesome and I'll reply to my comment to put the spoilers so if you don't want to see them don't click
So in short what happens is you see a guy die and get isekaid into the super generic Isekai world where he needs to defeat the demon king, but the whole adventure is skipped because that's not what the story is about, so after defeating the demon king he goes back to his world where he finds out his mom killed herself and his dad died for another reason, and he learns about a bunch of other bad stuff that happened for the like 3 years he was gone, then he just goes berserk and kills everyone in sight and goes on a absolute rampage, then he kills the mc and the mc gets sent to another world, then that's all skipped he defeats the demon king yada yada, he comes back to find out that all of Korea is split between different "heroes" (other people who returned after going to another world) and he is after the "sword-hero" (the person from the beginning) and will kill anyone who stands with him. There's much more to it and it's amazing, if you want to know the rest then go read it yourself
"return of the frozen player" similar S to F to S again
Welp... as if I needed another webcomic addiction! Thanks for the recommendation, I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of this!
You'll probably love "I'm The Fated Villain"
The one I'm currently obsessed with is: Pick Me Up, Infinite Gacha. I have only ever played 1 gacha game, AFK Arena, and at one point I had wondered what it would be like to be one of the heroes, that what if they really do die forever? What if you decided to Favour a hero because they ALWAYS made it out alive, not realizing they just CANT die or else they would die forever?
NO WAY THIS SOUNDS SO COOL AA
I just had an idea and thought to share, it's incredibly long, be warned.
Have you heard the saying "you either due the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"? What if there was a story that started with of as a F to S rank story, and it done it well, he grew and he learned and it was beautiful and it could in it's own right be a great story, but after the first half of, an admittedly long storyline, he falls, he's beaten the bad guy, saved the world, made a difference, only to see the exact day after the consequences of his actions, an entire Legion of people, leaderless, in shambles, descending into chaos, but the people who were thought to be the good guys, refuse to help, "they're just (insert 'bad guy' species/tribe), why should we help?", And when the mc trues to help they refuse, he's the villain in their story, they know if the squadrons he's murdered, villages razed to the ground under the preconception that, they're all bad, but the 'good guys find out and accuse him of being heresy/treason, and when he tries to plead his case that they're not all bad, it cements their thoughts about the idea, and he's sentenced to death, a fall from grace, only to go back to the start, but on the opposite side, knowing what he knows about the 'good guys', he decides to see if the other side is better, only yo find, it's actually pretty nice, and that the 'good' people, were the ones that started it all in the name of greed, and story starts again but from a different perspective, and with new knowledge, and a different story, ultimately coming to a much better conclusion of an, initially, less then stable peace, only to see it grow, eventually being even greater then either side were alone, this concluding the story of a rise to greatness and fall from grace.
This is incredibly long, apologies.😅
i mean there are a few (2 come to my mind rn) ones which are, what i personally also believe to be the true reverse isekai (fantasy person thrown into modern day), like [How I Came to Live Out in the Country with a Female Knight Who Showed Up at My Place] as example.
You should watch Now & Then, Here & There.
It's a deconstruction of the Isekai genre and, just to give you an idea about how unlike normal isekai it is, director Akitaroh Daichi was inspired by the Rwandan Genocide.
Also it came out in 1999.
I could only get a few chapters into I Was The Final Boss. Not really sure what I expected, but I didn't want a "I was super powered but plot happened and now I have to recover my power"
Let's go! Bro I love this channel. Everytime I find a good manhwa you make a vid on it, and if I haven't read a manhwa you show me a new one!
I thought this was gonna be something I haven’t read but I’ve read this
Nice to see ya being honest with your burnout with another world genre.
All I can hear is the Spiderman quote, “The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall die trying”
The trope is reverse isekai. The fantasy world getting copy-pasted on earth or such is actually a different trope.
Dragon Maid, Devil is a Part-timer, and one about a female knight & a farmer are examples of reverse isekai.
I love the Isekai genre solely because they stick to the meme troupes and its more of a comfort show
I read this on a whim. It was a you had my curiosity now you have my attention thing after his friends got cool. I like the idea of our "hero" getting more demonic power by ironically becoming more human.
You expect too much from Siri with that massive prompt.
Boss of some fantasy tower. Yeah that's I used to be a boss for ya. I knew when you said boss monster of some fantasy tower. It's nice really.
One of my new favorites (that has a ver y complicated development for anything other than the novel) is one called Lord of the Mysteries.
It's a reincarnated into a supernatural world type scenario, but the power system revolves around potions. The abilities each character has is given a specific definition, and it is in a steampunk world setting.
However, the manga had mediocre quality and stopped for stupid reasons. Heard rumors an anime adaption was in the works, however.
It is also supposed to be part of a trilogy, and part 2 started earlier this year.
I remember the first chapter was long that I almost peed myself.
I believe we can call this kid of trope “reverse reincarnation”, if “reincarnation” doesn’t gives you any kicks
most korean "tower or system" manhwas do the S to F to S Those mostly belong to the Shit Tier with 200+ chapters on average(sure some are hidden gems)
and the "opposite isekai" you already have a bit of them things such as
"The Great Jahy Will Not Be Defeated" or "The Devil is a Part-Timer"
as for the genre, its name is "Non-Human Protagonists"
but i would consider this a "person in a strange world" whether you consider a demon lord or a slime as a person depends on you
Solo Leveling did it right from my POV, it had a tower arc but they cut the BS quickly lmao
the ending was quite a twist
1:20 Come on John! How'd a truck beat you?
Best manhwa commentary channel
I have been reading something called pick me up where he gets transported into this mobile game hes been playing. Its like a Gatha game. It turns out the Gatchas you summon are real people you basically put through hell. Thats the gist of it. Hes summoned as a common one star hero but uses his knowledge of the game to survive. Its pretty cool
Yeahhh I read it and it was amazing one of my favourites cuz it felt very unique in my opinion
Hy I am currently reading "worthless Regression". I am so in to Isekai but this is completely different.
I don't want to soil to much but it hooked me during the first 10 chapters.
I would Highly recommend it to you.
I forgot to say this manga ist really well written and has one of the best Moments and the Charakter ist soooo relatebe.
And around Chapter 40 ist one of the most heartbreaking Moments in my Isekai reading history.
Spoiler:
MC is an actual talentless character, having to, at one point, spend 2000 years training to reach a point the other talented characters reached within a few years. Like OP said, a great story that I highly recommend
Trueee!!! Season 1 just ended and the ending (s1) is so well doneee it's perfect👌
It’s really good😁
Beware of the murim stuff though, especially if you don't know much about it.
If you like Fall From Grace stories, I recommend Damn Reincarnation or Return of the Shattered Constellation.
The devil is a part timer is a good twist on the isekai tropes
Yeah can't say I have read a comic like this before, think I found it a month ago. Shame it is so short. I usually ignore comics with less than fifty chapters but this one seemed interesting. Been enjoying korean manwhas, easier for their stuff to get exposure compared to smaller Japanese comics. Between webtoon and other companies there is a good supply of them. Not to mention I enjoy color being the standard.
what is the name ive looked for minutes and cannot find it please help
@@5tp333 Oh for the Baphomet one it is called I USED TO BE A BOSS. Be warned though there is very little to read.
@@chibaification thank you
Sounds like "The devil is a part-timer" with extra gore ^^;
You should try "Hero has Returned". Which starts with a hero returning AFTER having had the complete hero's journey behind him just to get back to his normal life. But after having been away for that time the world does not accept him with open arms. His school assumes he's a good for nothing and refuses to accept him. One parent died while trying to find him and the other took their own life. Their relatives abandon him since the search for him ruined them financially and he's basically outcast from all of society...but he came back with all his powers and let's just say things get real messy real fast.
And that's just the first chapter and honestly many many more chapters feel like they could be a season itself and yet the writer delivers all of that and more over and over again while not making it obvious where this all leads up to until much later where a lot things start to make a lot more sense.
EDIT: wrong managa title, changed it
the beginning of the end (don't know if it's true or not but I read this was also getting animated somewhere? comment if it's true), the irregular's return magic should be special (supposedly getting animated or working in production in winter of this year.), omniseinetreadersviewpoint, tomb raider king, raising sss- class monsters, sss- class suicide hunter, everyone else is a return,
solo max level newbies, are good representations of a good isekai
Devil is a Part-timer. Demon Lord and minion get teleported to earth. He decides to take it over by working his way up the cooperate chain at a McDonalds parody.
I LOVE THIS COMIC