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Honda Civic Big Brake Kit Using Mini Cooper Brake Rotors! (INSANE BUDGET)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2023
- This Honda Civic big brake upgrade is the best budget brake upgrade for any Honda Civic EG or EK. It involves using 280mm Rotors from 2007 Mini Cooper, 1st gen Honda CRV Calipers, and TSX brake pads all on a Civic EX steering knuckle. This kit is fully bolt on and requires no modifications other than stainless steel brake lines and trimming the dust shield on the knuckles (I removed mine). These brakes are going to be absolutely insane on track with the Hawk HP+ brake pads and the new coilovers and transmission :)
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Did something similar to my Teggy and this upgrade slaps hard! It’s called the no BS big brake kit, and it is directly bolt on.
What caliper did u use
So i can just take off my stock calipers and rotors and slap these on and go?
You can use oem Integra calipers and pads with 280mm mini cooper rotor.
This is a great budget brake upgrade. One thing to note is that the EK knuckles are 1/2" shorter than the EG/DC ones, regardless if they have the smaller or larger "EX" brakes. So if you have a 92-95 Civic, you really should use 92-95 Civic EX or Integra knuckles. If you have a 1996-2000 Civic, you should use a 96-00 Civic EX or 99/00 Si knuckles.
I got a 1994 ex but I didn’t realize I had 262mm rotors I figured I had 240mm so I bought calipers pads rotors etc for 240mm. Do you know what year calipers would fit my ex knuckles? Ex isn’t a model option on anything I look on. Maybe ek ex calipers that had 262mm rotors?
@@IzzySk10 Depending on the parts retailer sometimes they don’t use model trims. You can try looking up the civic with the sohc vtec d16z6 engine. Even if you ask for 96-2000, some of them had smaller brakes. For 96-00, the EX have d16y8 engine.
@@TrackSol yeah I think I found some possibly. I gotta d16y8 from a 99 too
@@IzzySk10 Also FYI on the EK, I think only the 4 door EX has the 262mm front rotors. Another option is to just buy a whole caliper/pad/rotor package for a 94-01 Integra. It’s the same 262mm 4x100, just that the caliper has a slightly larger piston.
And for Integra I can just use the knuckles that come with it correct?
you either need a hub ring or stud shims to center that rotor. also a 1" master cylinder is a good idea with the bigger setup
Funfact: the 1st gen/rd1 crv caliper is the same as the integra type-r. You can also fit 1st gen nsx calipers in the same place as any crv/itr if you're baller.
Did the same Mini Cooper rotor upgrade on my EM1. Because I already had the correct knuckles and Spoon calipers I just needed to get the rotors, the spacers/shims and some Type R pads. Really a nice, easy way to improve the braking of our cars!
Hey bro what’s the BS big brake kit? Need to do this for my 97 ek
Awesomely simple upgrade that makes a big difference for hard driving. You can also use ITR calipers, NSX calipers(2 pot floating), and dc5 calipers as well…
Great video!
Would that be nsx calipers with tL pads and mini cooper rotor?
@@westcyde9790exactly!
Doing this on my Ek but I’m using ITR calipers and Integra front knuckles. Got everything from RockAuto, I’m just waiting on new front brake lines and I opted for HardRace lower ball joints. I’m pretty excited! Also in saving the rear disc conversion for later too
Itr calipers have the same part number as the crv calipers. In fact the whole knuckle assembly has the same part number between the crv and itr
The Integra knuckles are taller than EK knuckles and will mess up your suspension geometry. If you have an EK you really should be using EK knuckles from an EX or 99/00 Si.
you should really get those spacers to center the brake rotor, its not about the clamping force of the wheel but keeping everything balanced to stop wheel shake and such.
I understand your concern, but I had no wheel shake or braking issues on track. 3 whole days of beating on it.
Hi @tropg what do you mean by spaces wheel spacers? Or different space im a newbie so i want to know more knowledge TYIA 🙏
@@mr.piglet579 The Mini Cooper uses 14mm wheel studs. The civic uses 12mm wheels studs. So although the holes are in the right place on the rotor, they are too big. (Think about placing a 14mm nut on a 12 mm bolt). The rotor will have a slight bit of play because the holes are too big. You can get shims that fit between the rotor and the wheel stud. The part can be found by googling:
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Or at least it can right now. If you still can't find the right part, reply to this and if I get a notification, I can probably find something that will work.
Edit: I realize this is an old discussion, but it's information that people might want in the future, and the question was unanswered.
3 wheelin! You were cooking in that turn! Very hype to see the track day
Man I wish I had a camera to capture it for him.
I did the same brake setup but I use the Honda CRV brake pads with no issues
I’m running the exact same big brake setup atm. Although it isn’t required to change the knuckled on EM1s. If you ever plan to track the EG, invest in a set of Circo brake pads. They are by far the best pads on the market. They’re quite pricey ($400 AUD) but they outlast the rotors and everything! Also invest in braided brake lines and high temp brake fluid if you haven’t already. I can take the EM1 out to the track and go hard for an hour straight and have zero brake fade in that time. Absolutely love your content and keen to see the EG out on the track!!
And in saying that it’s soooo much cheaper than doing the DC2R brake conversion same as the Brembo upgrade too
I got a big brembo brake kit from the genesis and my rotors are from a 2015 Nissan rogue with 3rd row seat on my DB8 lol I also got a 5 lug conversion from the rsx type s
As someone who also typically works on their car in the garage alone, I felt that trans swap so hard 😂
Mans gotta eat
I've ran this on all my tegs and civics 1 thing is it looks like you didn't get the lug washers which is needed so it remains hub centric as the mini has a larger wheel stud another thing is get good pads or you won't be that impressed also get rid of the dot 3 and get dot4 bc on track it's easy to boil dot 3
Where can I buy lug washers? Thanks from a newbie!
@@FE428Power Amazon or eBay is where I get them lmk if u don't find them I can find a link for ya
@@devinej8411if you could send me a link for those lug washers you’re talking about. I googled it but it seems there’s many shapes and sizes and I don’t wanna buy the wrong ones. I have a 98 ex if that info helps.
@@keithuzzell8486It wasn't letting me post it directly to you but I put it up these are wat u mant
Man a rear disc swap would be so cool for the eg. I just did it to my crx and it's so *chef's kiss*
Maybe someday!
This is awesome. I’m definitely doing this on my Sol. Thanks Jhon for the great content.
Video topics like THIS are my car nerd subject 🤙 reminds me of how the boosted boiz used to be
Dude this is awesome cause I’ve been wanting to do this for a awhile now! Now I know what parts to get!
Got a 95 del sol with a B16B swap, definitely needs more stopping power now. My parts guy of course wants me to go with a wilwood 6 piston bbk swap, but this seems more effective for cost. Has anyone done something like this with the stock knuckles?
Got the same brake set up in my 89 si hatch.
John,
When I used mini cooper rotors, type r calipers, stainless steel braided lines, type r brake pads, the rotor wobbled on the studs a hair. I searched 1320 performance rotor spacers and no more wobble.
the wobble on the studs did not affect the car on track. I did not notice anything weird with the brakes after 3 whole days of beating on the car at the track.
What stainless steel line did you buy? And what did they fit for? Mines are rubbing the wheel.
@@RobertEdits
It was an ebay special. Purchased for the Type R not the GSR. They were on closed out i thunk they were about 24$
@@brandoncruz682 yea man I may have to do that I’m fuckd rn
I decided to go with Integra knuckles couldn’t find ex ones but good sh*t john!! 💪🏻
Get a brake booster off a 91 civic sedan ex. It’s bigger and bolts right up
I think gapped rings, upgraded rod bolts and studs you can probably see 550 maybe 600hp
Must be new here
Safely
Haha
@@boosted_john great job brotha keep up the good work
Daaaaaamn man. 3 wheel motion👌
I love the b18c1
John is looking huge💪🏽
Try looking at Fast Brakes for a rear disk brake swap
This car deserves some way overdue body work
Now get Gingium to fab up a mount for a small supercherger (m62? m90? tvs900? )
Tvs900 would be perfect but hard to source, m62 are super common
I used a Volkswagen corroda disc brake on my 1990 honda ef 😎
Bought all my parts from Rockauto for $186 after taxes and shipping. Super affordable swap.
Anything ever gonna happen with the fully built LSV?
Oh lmao commented to early
I have an EK hatch and doing a complete DC2 front and rear disc conversion. Will this set up work with DC2 front spindle? And does it require any mods or addition parts?
John the guy I’d sit next to in class and bring food for for no reason
You didn’t need ek knuckles. You could’ve run Eg knuckles off an ex or dc integra knuckles
Turkey Turkey!!
Turnkey!!!
Since the 05 civic uses the same caliper as a 2000 civic, can this conversion be applied to the 05?
What brake system would i use if i converted my eg civic to AWD?
What caliper bracket was used? CRV or integra R or something else?
So could you do this on a 2001 integra
Wondering if theres a big brake updgrade for the rear disc cuz they are pretty small
There is! You can use the itr rear calipers with EP3 brake rotors. If you want even more budget, you can use base dc5 rear calipers(what I did), But the bleed nipples will point downwards so you gotta take the caliper off, turn it around to bleed.
@@toopyandbinoy8893 Is that worth doing in your opinion? I only did the front currently
@toopyandbinoy8893 Thanks for the info, I'll have to look into it. Currently putting in gsr rear trailing arms, and they look tiny compared to the mini rotors in the front 😆
@@ssjdavid I didnt drive with just the fronts so I couldn’t compare. But in terms of balance, it felt the same as before. Generally going bbk in only front throws brake balance off. I suggest you get itr calipers instead of dc5 tho, having to turn the caliper around to bleed is quite a PIA
I just want to know who figured this out LOL
Me too man. Which guy was just mad scientist mode? Lol
The hatch look. good drop low
Idk why you don’t have like 500k+ subs
I swear I’m shadow banned. Share this video with friends!!! Thank you 🙏
Todays word of the day. Roll center knuckle adjusters
The only thing I would do different isgo with cross drill rotors for the mini Cooper they like 87 bucks on Amazon I think it's worth the money
I preferred 5 lugs type R.
Hey John, I’m guessing your wheels are 15” correct? I have 15” rpf1s and just want to make sure it will clear when I do this mod. Thanks for the video and info!!
Yes
Rpfs don’t clear
@@walterm127 you are correct, had to swap wheels :/
Will this work if I have abs on my ex ?
My eg in New Zealand runs prelude front brake discs and calipers😊 did you upgrade the master cylinder?
I did not upgrade the master cylinder. Had no issues on track.
@@boosted_john look up the mc upgrade, Master cylinder, 15/16" from a 90-91 civic EX. honda oem part # 46100-SH4-A11. Love your channel fyi
Is the brake master cylinder original? Do you use half slips on the track?
Original brake master.
Not sure what half slips are. So probably not.
@@boosted_john Semislick I mean, or slick.
I already have a gsr integra but, I can't remember if the first gen crv and integra, had the same front brakes???
Not quite, the CR-V has a 5 lug bolt pattern but the Integra is 4 lug so the rotors wouldn't fit.
@@wowdogeful yeah but, the Calipers??
@@jadenkeosavanh1774 yes, the calipers are the same
You can interchange them on rock auto play at the same
great video
What the wheel disk size is?
1st gen acura tsx pads?
Yeah
will those tru hart ball joints fit eg knuckles too?
Yessir!
WOMP WOMP not using ek parts on my eg :)
What
idk why people do this over the direct bolt on wilwood 4 piston calibers?
Because If you have an ex or si you can just spend about 200$ to swap this in
I’ve ran countless laps with this setup and never managed to fade them on track. I managed to fade a set of Brembo 4 pots on an Evo in about 2 minutes and and a set of brembo 4 pots on a 911 turbo in about 4 minutes…..fitting bigger brakes than you need is increasing unsprung mass which is the worst place you could possibly add weight. Quality pads, disks and fluid are more important than bling looking callipers.
What wheels is he running?
I tried using your discount code last video and this video and the order summary was only .60 cents or 1.40 off
Not all items are %15 off. That’s why it’s “up to” 15% off. Some items only qualify for a couple percent discount.
@@boosted_john that's why I was about to buys some fuel injectors
So if I've already got a 2000 ex I can just get the other parts and do the upgrade???
Yea just get the right year parts
Yep
Any chances this setup will clear stock EM1 wheels 15x6 +45?
Probably yes
@@boosted_johnthanks for the vid by the way!! My go to channel since I too have a B18C1
What size are your wheeld
Should of just got the wilwood 4 piston bbk only 500
I'm not sure where you got that for $500, the part is $900-$1k depending on which one you get
@@wowdogeful late reply, but youre wrong. theres a wilwood kit with pads and rotors for 560$ ish. and uses stock lines!
I’m having issues with my brake hose rubber into my tire any help?
Zip tie to strut
@@boosted_john ok thanks I’ll give it a try
whats better the crv, teggy or accord caliper? for oem+
I ran CRV and it was great. I have no experience with the other two. Are they not the same part #?
@@boosted_john I’ve been seeing that some are slightly bigger
Does the slicks fit over the caliper or it rubs with the new big brake it ?
It won’t fit with new brakes. Will have to switch back.
@@boosted_john thanks god I ask I was about to install on my hatch for drag racing
Can i use a eg ex steering knuckle?
I think so. I could be totally wrong tho. For sure do some research on that one my man.
Bad ass 👍 hell yea
You should have ran with the Turbo on the B16 trans for shits & giggles. Possibly bust the myth of short ratio trans & turbo cars. 🤷🏿♂️ It would have been great for content.
I could give it a shot when I put the built motor back in.
Done it, prefer the ls trans for turbo. Youre sifting by the time you hit powerband. Might be good for a small turbo for fast response, but not big tubskis.
@@nobodynoone2500 might be good for a Big turbo because it get rid of some turbo lag. But unfortunately he'll have to shift into 5th & possibly run out of gear.It's work a try.
Do the 13” wheels still fit?
Stock 15” will be the smallest wheels that fit with this setup.
Nope
Wheel + tire sizes ?
15x8+36
225/45zr15
@@boosted_john do you rub ? i have a 00 coupe i’m trying to build but idk what size wheels to get for a good tires
@@boosted_john have you done a rear caliper swap?
First First here to comment , love the big brake upgrade 😀👍🏽
Thanks! Have you tried it before?
Thanks! Have you tried it before?
@@boosted_john unfortunately I have never done a big brake upgrade before . only drilled and grooved discs for the front on a toyota celica 1.8
@boosted_johnwhats up John, I have a 97 ex and want to do the same but with different pads just for street use. What years tsx pads fit that setup exactly? Appreciate the content and any help brotha!
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