Tom Garner Kennels - Episode 11 - Strength and Conditioning

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  • Strength and Conditioning
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  • @scottfuller5634
    @scottfuller5634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The keep does not last 8 weeks. It starts at 8 weeks when they are weaned. Everything matters. These athletes are not made in 8 weeks they are created 63 days prior to birth in a process called selection. The last 8 weeks are nothing more than fine tuning all of the above. I am not knocking the other videos, but this one truly stands out. Knocked it out of the park. There was some emphasis on completing a 'keep' written by another. If there is another similar video this should be a key point. Your dog is not my dog, and your mill is not my mill, and your outside ambient temperature is not the same as mine. Your dog will tell you everything you need to know every day. If you listen, you will have a great opportunity to succeed. If you choose to listen to "Joe from down the road" vs. listening to your dog, you will hurt your own feelings at a later time. When that happens don't blame anyone but yourself. Great video.

    • @georgiogalben7312
      @georgiogalben7312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome master response
      The knowledgebase of the breed.

    • @markballard1515
      @markballard1515 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If we’re going back in time about 3 decades or more, I’d say the keep starts after it’s determined the athlete was show quality which would be after schooling.

    • @johnjack8195
      @johnjack8195 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To an extent but you have to give pups time to be pups patience is key 🔑

  • @user-pu4qf2jk6f
    @user-pu4qf2jk6f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thanks so much again there ain't nothing I Rather here more than that good ole bulldog talk. Knowledge is key and your videos are gold. Yes sir Health is wealth yall stay strong ✊🏻

  • @juanrosado8716
    @juanrosado8716 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    couldn't have said it any better we appreciate these videos thank you!

  • @18-tolife20
    @18-tolife20 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well said it also good to put a face to the voice I would have thought you were younger yall keep up the good work & sharing experience & history im definitely loving it all thx to all

  • @mr.reliable8123
    @mr.reliable8123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was GOLDEN!!! It let's me know that I'm on the right track. I believe in and agree with 100% of what was mentioned, because this is exactly how I condition...from 2 on 1 off, baseline exercises in the prekeep like walking to observe your teammate, to resting your teammate during the peak week. This was definitely on point!

  • @MichelleRauKlimas739501
    @MichelleRauKlimas739501 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re truly an awesome man in my book. I love the fact that you speak on the pets condition as well. You’re remarkable 💙💙

  • @lanele1058
    @lanele1058 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for another wonderful informational video. Guys, use this video as a baseline and keep good notes/data on your keep for Strength, Power, Endurance and you will know your dog's peak performance.

  • @youngree1712
    @youngree1712 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Alot of key points made here but can't forget to add that nutrition is also a key factor to conditioning your dog has to be of good health before being put into conditioning

    • @topdogg7065
      @topdogg7065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      About time someone that knows a little something dumb mf in here and police never now why they say so much and know it was a dog raid that clearly said Facebook and utube 😂😂😂😂

  • @giordandesousa2602
    @giordandesousa2602 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome stuff! Much respect.

  • @portermore3864
    @portermore3864 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You can never go wrong with a dog from Mr. Garner . - Cashed Out
    Endurance 10
    Strength 10
    Power 10
    Intelligence 10

    • @davebarry4647
      @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      10-10-10 is like the strongest man in the world, winning the Ironman Triathlon while simultaneously being the fastest man in the world in 100m. Nice fantasy🙂

  • @foenem........
    @foenem........ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Ok so what you call power we call explosiveness and twitch in boxing!

    • @lucasempire80
      @lucasempire80 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s what we call explosiveness in weightlifting. Power is the rate/speed at which you are able to move/force maximal weight in less or mininmal time.

    • @davebarry4647
      @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lucasempire80 Weightlifting is a perfect example of power and using the first energy system=ATP in competition. Powerlifting is a perfect example of strength (much slower in speed than weightlifting), but still uses ATP as the prime energy source for the activity in meets.

  • @gladiusdei1847
    @gladiusdei1847 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks from Italy 🇮🇹

  • @ericbrandon6504
    @ericbrandon6504 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video sir!

  • @PythonDon_DogoArgentino
    @PythonDon_DogoArgentino 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you 🙏

  • @mikelee4009
    @mikelee4009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I would love to hear more about what Santos brought to your breeding program.

    • @cjgames4378
      @cjgames4378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They ain't done much other than breed him to sisters and daughters, gr daughters etc.

    • @mikelee4009
      @mikelee4009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cjgames4378 I get that . But what were the gains in doing it. What traits were being carried over. And what we're the negative aspects of Santos himself.

    • @cjgames4378
      @cjgames4378 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @mikelee4009 I have some Santos blood have for close to 10 yrs, I just don't feel like it's much to talk about other than it's a spike Frisco gene pool that's been kept tight on the hill still using semen of santos himself. Its not like the dynomite or El negro family where he's had 3 generations of champions there. It's good blood but it's not like he's added it to everything there and seen gains or draw backs. I take it you have a santos pup or want 1. Good stock to make a cross with.

    • @juscallmesir
      @juscallmesir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I second that

    • @mikelee4009
      @mikelee4009 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, in your 10 years with them, the good outweighs the bad ..

  • @mayhemkennelsarklacombinek4021
    @mayhemkennelsarklacombinek4021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    💪🏿🏆💪🏿

  • @bandogsandbulldogs
    @bandogsandbulldogs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great episode....
    I wouldn't worry about reaching everyone. Many of the people watching this have a deadly combination of low comprehension, arrogance, and lack of effort in the care of their animals. You just can't hope to reprogram their ways through TH-cam. The person who thinks deeply and critically will be able to take something of value from these videos, and for others, it will flow over their scalps like water smoothing their brains further much like a river stone.
    Please keep them coming and absolutely re-address on the topics discussed as needed.
    Thank you, guys, for taking the time to share with the public your lengthy experience with these dogs.

    • @ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt
      @ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Strength work first before endurance In keep????

    • @ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt
      @ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Strength work first before endurance In keep????

    • @jamesreed2271
      @jamesreed2271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have some dog that's naturally strong like the Eli dog but have less endurance so I tend to work on more of endurance then strength​@@ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt

    • @davebarry4647
      @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt@ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt It depends on which one is more important for the particular dog you are working with. If your dog lacks strength, you want to work on the strength aspect first while the dog has the highest energy (this assumes you may be working both in one training session) and is likely to take the most prolonged period of the keep, in my example. Why? Strength training generally takes longer to develop than endurance.

    • @ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt
      @ConfusedFieldHockey-em6bt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @davebarry4647 Thank-you for your reply brother

  • @scottfuller5634
    @scottfuller5634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Time 25:00 can't be over-spoken. This is why these dogs perform in spite of their owners in more cases than we would like to say.

  • @davebarry4647
    @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regarding athletic performance, I almost always prefer extra rest to additional work when in doubt with regard to recovery.

  • @canamboy6888
    @canamboy6888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💯

  • @Best-in-the-Midwest
    @Best-in-the-Midwest 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🎉

  • @davebarry4647
    @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tom, if you were to rate Chinaman, what would you give him as far as 1. Strength, 2. Power, and 3. Endurance?

  • @davebarry4647
    @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brad misstated the energy systems he listed. There are no energy systems called strength, endurance, or power (5:20). Depending on the source used, you may find slightly different numbers or a different name. Still, canines' energy systems are very similar to humans.
    Energy Sytems:
    1. The immediate/phosphagen system generally lasts 5-20 sec (these numbers vary slightly). It comes from burning adenosine triphosphate (ATP). For example, weight-pulling would use this energy system. If the event continues for more than 20+ seconds, 2. The glycolytic system kicks in, lasts 20-120 sec, and is anaerobic (does not use oxygen). 3 Aerobic-Oxidative system, which converts to aerobic system at approximately 2+min. Depending on the activity, the dog will cycle through these energy systems. For example, running the slate mill would use all 3 systems when working on endurance (endurance/power is a different specialty). This subject is very nuanced, so if you have any specific questions, I'm glad to help, or I'm sure Brad can as well.

  • @user-nd9ig7vc6p
    @user-nd9ig7vc6p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Next video could you please talk about what parasites and other health issues that need to be checked before anything begins and PLEASE TALK ABOUT WHITE COUNTS AND HOW WE SHOULDNT WORK HUNT OR BREED APBT WITH LOW COUNTS BECAUSE OF BAB……..

  • @davebarry4647
    @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I were to venture a guess as to why so many people spend a lot of time focused on endurance, such as running their dogs on the slate mill, it would be because some old-school conditioners were more interested in gameness/endurance (newbies see more old keeps posted than new) than those looking for a quick win by using strength as the primary focus (Louis Colby called them the 'Pepsi' generation). I've seen one particular conditioner that used nothing but the slate mill and boasted wins over some of the all-time greats.
    Personally, I look at my dog and diagnose his strengths and weaknesses. Then, I look at the events I plan on competing in, such as the wall climb or wall jumping, and ask myself what mark typically wins these events. Then, I'd predict how well my dog could compete against the best in his current condition.
    Finally, I'd decide whether to strengthen my dog's strengths even more or evenly distribute his abilities. Then, I'd set up the plan, but I am always willing to change things on the fly and usually focus on recovery more than any other attribute when I do make changes outside my original plan.

  • @markballard1515
    @markballard1515 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What mechanisms make an all out sprint ( anaerobic ) different from an all out sled push ( also anaerobic), or sprinting all out on a carpet mill vs free spinning slat mill?

  • @Lawrence-qw4rm
    @Lawrence-qw4rm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want as close of an balance as possible strength in food and air if it goes the distance which it will sometimes and still have enough to finish your opponent's legs still under him/her.

  • @RonSlinker-dt7vr
    @RonSlinker-dt7vr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brad,
    What are your thoughts on strength conditioning through resistance training versus dragging weight?
    Modified band resistance connected to a harness for instance. Would this build more “explosive” strength for the animal?
    Thanks in advance for your perspective.

    • @davebarry4647
      @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Based on how you framed your question, neither resistance bands nor dragging chains (as shown in the video), somewhat slowly, will not optimize power (power is sometimes referred to as "explosive strength') development. Increased strength will improve power production to some degree. However, creating optimal power requires the ability to produce as much force as possible in the shortest time (a time component must be introduced).
      Therefore, using the chain example in the video, to create more power, the weight, distance, and time would have to be significantly decreased. Think of comparing the deadlift (a very slow movement) to a snatch (a very fast movement). The deadlift is better for developing strength and measuring how much force your muscles can produce in a particular exercise. Meanwhile, the snatch, for example, is better for producing power, which can be described as the ability to overcome resistance in the shortest period of time.

    • @jimsmiley9946
      @jimsmiley9946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As explained and labelled in the video clips the chain pulling is a strength (4 chains 40 yards up hill) or strength endurance/power endurance (2 chains 1 mile) exercise.
      Power is best measured in athletes by the vertical jump, because you are fighting gravity directly with every muscle in your body as fast as possible. With bulldogs you can see this best represented in the wall climb, or vertical leap to catch a hide on a spring pole they are working. We don't get into mouth work, because it is easily misconstrued as training for fighting purposes, so we don't talk much about the spring pole, but a correctly constructed spring pole is my favorite tool for overall conditioning. There is power in the leap to catch it, strength in the mouth to work it and endurance in the 1 - 2 hours most of my dogs will spend on it.
      What we show as power in the video and explanation is flirt pole work. This is not a perfect example of power itself, but is a perfect example of functional power in that it is maximum speed lateral movement. Fitness people could understand this as plyometrics, which is basically starting, stopping and controlling power in as many different directions as possible, or simply flirt pole work.
      Now, to your question on band training. I have never used band training, mostly because it is cumbersome to set up without the dog snatching it and trying to chew them up and I have other ways to get the results I want that band training would yield.
      However, recently I saw a friend using bands in a specific way that I do think is brilliant with release training. While they may get a little strength training out of the exercise, what I would be looking to get would be the psychological conditioning of when released to race across the pen and catch the hog. If this is hard wired from repetition it is one less thing to worry about.
      In general I do the simplest thing I can measure in conditioning and make sure to spend half as much time just hand walking, playing fetch, and doing more mentally stimulating work. So, if I pull chains for 30 mind numbing body building minutes I make sure to play fetch or wrestle around with my dog for 15 afterwards.
      I also time rest days for Tuesday and Saturday during basketball season when they sit next to me on the couch watching the Kentucky game.
      They always work harder for you if that is not the only thing they do with you.

    • @davebarry4647
      @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimsmiley9946 "Power is best measured in athletes by the vertical jump because you are fighting gravity directly with every muscle in your body as fast as possible. With bulldogs you can see this best represented in the wall climb, or vertical leap to catch a hide on a spring pole they are working. "** Depending on the sport, effectively measuring power will vary. Consequently, there is no one particular exercise that is best for measuring power. The measured vertical jump is a good method for measuring power for a basketball player since it mimics a movement often used in every game. Similarly, as mentioned, it's a good predictor for the wall climb or vertical leap to catch a hide like in competition.
      However, there are better power measurements than the vertical jump for athletes who require maximum horizontal power, such as the standing long jump to running long jump, or those who initially explode horizontally off the platform when swimming. Similarly, during competition, both dog dock diving and jumping horizontally over obstacles are seen in dog competitions.
      In conclusion, measure strength, power, and endurance as best you can to mimic the physical activity you are training yourself or your dog to perform. In this manner, you can design a periodized strength and conditioning program to optimize performance In the sport you desire. In other words, train using the S.A.I.D. principle, (S) specific (A)adaptation to (I)imposed (D)demands.

  • @ajdaly9012
    @ajdaly9012 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How many mile u walk ur dogs during the 8 week keep

  • @benharding8424
    @benharding8424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great clip now if u were doing a 8 week keep what wld u start of doing first

    • @jimsmiley9946
      @jimsmiley9946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chain pulling for 10 sessions over 3 weeks waiting to add a significant amount of weight until sessions 7, 8, 9 and 10. Distance always stays the same. Feed heavy. Joint or ligament damage is most likely to occur during this time, and it takes 6 - 8 months to fully recover from that.

    • @benharding8424
      @benharding8424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank u

  • @Letgetittv2
    @Letgetittv2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vo2 max and lactic threshold

    • @davebarry4647
      @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can increase the lactic threshold by adding HIIT using a slate mill, especially a DogTrotter.

    • @jimsmiley9946
      @jimsmiley9946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both of these things are just indicators of aerobic fitness, not things that you train. I guess I don't understand the question.
      Do you want us to talk about how to measure these things?
      We measure hematocrit or pcv (packed cell volume) with a blood sample spun in a centrifuge. It should be between 35 - 55. Below 35 means they are anemic.......something is wrong. While in the 40's is fine, we are really looking to be between 48-52 if we have done our job conditioning and they are healthy. There are a lot of conditions that could cause anemia, but in Bulldogs babesia is a major culprit. While hardly ever seen in other breeds, so vets will charge you through the nose ($1500) on a dozen other tests before sending off a $50 babesia test. I'm not hating on vets, because it makes sense statistically from their experience and what happens most often is most likely what is happening, but in Bulldogs specifically (and there is research on this from bloodwork done on confiscated dogs) just have them send off for the babesia test first.

    • @davebarry4647
      @davebarry4647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimsmiley9946 Jim stated, "Both of these things are just indicators of aerobic fitness, not things that you train. I guess I don't understand the question." 1a. "Both of these things (they are called measurements) are just indicators of aerobic fitness..." False, the lactate threshold (LT) is often mistakingly referred to as the aerobic threshold; However, this is imprecise because it's TYPICALLY considered the same as the anaerobic threshold=ventilatory threshold=functional threshold. Regardless, while the LT potentially correlates with aerobic fitness, it's not considered a measurement of it.1b. Yes, Vo2max is a direct measurement of aerobic fitness. 2. "...not things that you train." False; Vo2max and LT can be measured and specifically trained to improve. Based on your response, you have never measured either, so you certainly won't knowingly train to improve something you don't know how to measure. 3. You can delete the last paragraph since neither LT nor Vo2max is measured using the hematocrit, but instead, you are trying to show a positive association between a hematocrit of 48-52% and the level of conditioning w/o an explanation.

  • @yakovs8211
    @yakovs8211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes hella more sense than hand walking 20 miles a day that I see a lot of people talk about

  • @jiggly_emup1122
    @jiggly_emup1122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tom garner himself the best in the game 💣💯🦾🦾