Man idc what they say Tom is the greatest, this man has so much knowledge it's almost impossible to keep up with him, good luck trying. I'm just going to buy good dogs from him
It is funny to listen to many "Dogmen" say Tom's dogs are nothing special, yet they don't have even one noteworthy dog to their name. Tell Tom precisely what attributes you desire, and he will suggest specific breedings that match your desires....it's as easy as that.
All the test is the same it’s the esters that make them different by how fast they release prop/cyp/enan that’s fastest to slowest anyways great info I’ve enjoyed the series so far and if your going to play with hormones always use a pct after wards or your dog will go sterile pct = hcg is the best
With Decca being slow to act and staying in the system so long and probably in this case far too much used it's no surprise as mentioned there are superior compounds more suited for K9 use.
That stuff really messes their insides up. I seen females lift up their legs and piss like a stud dog, and you have to know how to get them off the crap in cycles, takes up to 9 months or longer if you're lucky to get them to breed again.
One point for sure, talking from decades of experience competing and working in the field, by the time someone asks about steroids, they are already 90%+ sure they are going to use them themselves or on their dogs.
I recently did a "cycle" of enclomiphene and to spare you the details I'll just say along with increasing test levels, it also increases sperm production. I was wondering how that(clomid/enclomiphene) would work in an older stud dog.
It depends on the history of the older stud dog as far as how well HCG or Clomid will work to increase sperm production. If his sperm production has decreased yearly, as you'd expect, HCG will likely increase sperm production, but how much it will increase is hard to predict.
I've never heard of him having steroids. That's not a common practice here or with his owner. There never was a need for administering this kind of medication to him.
Well, Tom, in this series of videos. I almost always agree with you. However, today, I strongly disagree with your take on steroids. And their benefits for working dogs.. all you need is working knowledge of how to use them.. laces Armstrong. Won the detoured De France 7 times. Certain steroids increase your wind and stamina.
I have lots of knowledge on the subject and Tom nails it here. Armstrong's Erythropoietin (EPO), human growth hormone (HGH), and diuretics are not the same thing as anabolic steroids much less androgenic. If I remember Lance was also using some form of Test plus corticosteroids. These wont muscularized you the way that many Tom mentioned will. Take care!
@@kidsgottaeattrucking1084 Disagreeing is fine, but you gave no evidence to support anything you said besides mentioning Lance Armstrong. What exactly do you disagree with? Thank you.
You are right. They can be very effective and the results can be amazing. The problem is that seldom can they be repeated and seldom does the dog end up spot on. It boils down to dogs are the only sport where they perform at a certain weight. Steroids as they change red blood cell count there is also a natural 'fall in water content' almost akin to using a cortica-steroid or even a diuretic. Nailing a dog down to his correct weight with the right water content is hard, chasing that spot when using steroids is really, really hard, to the point, you are either lucky or wrong. If I were competing, I would encourage everyone to use steroids. Just saying.
@@scottfuller5634Logic is not your strong point since you admit steroids make it very difficult to hit a peak, and it either works great or horrible. Yet, your suggestion is to encourage all to use steroids, which is a 50/50 proposition, according to you.🙂
Ps epo in anavare are your best to use on females works great on males also remember all test causes water retention Mr T.G gave some really good info nice hearing someone that actually knows what there talking about on the subject for a change lol 🫡👏👏bulldog hill 👍🏻
One problem with using Anavar is it's highly likely to be made via the black market, so it won't be pharmaceutical-grade. I wouldn't use anything but pharm grade. or compounded at a pharmacy.
Man idc what they say Tom is the greatest, this man has so much knowledge it's almost impossible to keep up with him, good luck trying. I'm just going to buy good dogs from him
It is funny to listen to many "Dogmen" say Tom's dogs are nothing special, yet they don't have even one noteworthy dog to their name. Tell Tom precisely what attributes you desire, and he will suggest specific breedings that match your desires....it's as easy as that.
Every week I’m eager to tune in to learn more info to store in my mental library so keep it coming Tom thanks see you in July
We are all fortunate to have Tom and his team putting these helpful videos together.
Same here! Awesome videos!
Suga Sean O'Malley is the kinda dog I want😂
Yes sir and thanks again great videos
Greetings from San Diego, California
Here from SD also 👍🏽
All the test is the same it’s the esters that make them different by how fast they release prop/cyp/enan that’s fastest to slowest anyways great info I’ve enjoyed the series so far and if your going to play with hormones always use a pct after wards or your dog will go sterile pct = hcg is the best
Ch squiggles one Decca cycle never came in heat again after that
With Decca being slow to act and staying in the system so long and probably in this case far too much used it's no surprise as mentioned there are superior compounds more suited for K9 use.
That stuff really messes their insides up. I seen females lift up their legs and piss like a stud dog, and you have to know how to get them off the crap in cycles, takes up to 9 months or longer if you're lucky to get them to breed again.
I'd be interested in how much decca-durobolin/nandrolone was used for it to have such a severe effect.
@@davebarry4647 I’m not sure Al died I don’t know but she was one of the first and many after her no problem
Wisdom
Great show guys ! What’s your take on microdosing for longer periods?
One point for sure, talking from decades of experience competing and working in the field, by the time someone asks about steroids, they are already 90%+ sure they are going to use them themselves or on their dogs.
Greetings from California.
Nutrition next please
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I recently did a "cycle" of enclomiphene and to spare you the details I'll just say along with increasing test levels, it also increases sperm production. I was wondering how that(clomid/enclomiphene) would work in an older stud dog.
It depends on the history of the older stud dog as far as how well HCG or Clomid will work to increase sperm production. If his sperm production has decreased yearly, as you'd expect, HCG will likely increase sperm production, but how much it will increase is hard to predict.
I will love to hear what y’all think about the mr robert Carroll dogs
If they stop worries about his dog sells and instead sit and listen it may be different results in ones program
I WANNA HEAR A STORY ON THE STUD DOG..
THREE SQUARE 🎉
Whats dog does he have that that is good with any blood you mix it with?
Eli/Frisco/El Negro and also Redboy bloodlines have a very high combining ability.
Did Islero get ruined by roids ?
I've never heard of him having steroids. That's not a common practice here or with his owner. There never was a need for administering this kind of medication to him.
@tomgarner54 thanks for answering. Wish he could still produce. I would have loved to breed him back to my Patrick/Bolio stuff .
Well, Tom, in this series of videos. I almost always agree with you. However, today, I strongly disagree with your take on steroids. And their benefits for working dogs.. all you need is working knowledge of how to use them.. laces Armstrong. Won the detoured De France 7 times. Certain steroids increase your wind and stamina.
I have lots of knowledge on the subject and Tom nails it here. Armstrong's Erythropoietin (EPO), human growth hormone (HGH), and diuretics are not the same thing as anabolic steroids much less androgenic. If I remember Lance was also using some form of Test plus corticosteroids. These wont muscularized you the way that many Tom mentioned will.
Take care!
@the1knifepro169 I've been playing with it for over 30 myself And I totally disagree with hom
@@kidsgottaeattrucking1084 Disagreeing is fine, but you gave no evidence to support anything you said besides mentioning Lance Armstrong. What exactly do you disagree with? Thank you.
You are right. They can be very effective and the results can be amazing. The problem is that seldom can they be repeated and seldom does the dog end up spot on. It boils down to dogs are the only sport where they perform at a certain weight. Steroids as they change red blood cell count there is also a natural 'fall in water content' almost akin to using a cortica-steroid or even a diuretic. Nailing a dog down to his correct weight with the right water content is hard, chasing that spot when using steroids is really, really hard, to the point, you are either lucky or wrong. If I were competing, I would encourage everyone to use steroids. Just saying.
@@scottfuller5634Logic is not your strong point since you admit steroids make it very difficult to hit a peak, and it either works great or horrible. Yet, your suggestion is to encourage all to use steroids, which is a 50/50 proposition, according to you.🙂
Ps epo in anavare are your best to use on females works great on males also remember all test causes water retention Mr T.G gave some really good info nice hearing someone that actually knows what there talking about on the subject for a change lol 🫡👏👏bulldog hill 👍🏻
One problem with using Anavar is it's highly likely to be made via the black market, so it won't be pharmaceutical-grade. I wouldn't use anything but pharm grade. or compounded at a pharmacy.
Ps epo ? Is that the same thing as just regular E.P.O.?
@@jimmygiordani5093 Yes