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- Max Kellerman explains why he sees Kawhi Leonard as a better clutch performer than Kobe Bryant, but Stephen A. Smith does not buy the argument.
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If this video was made when Kobe was still playing Kobe would have dropped 60 the next game
FACTS!!!!!
@@begobvi M -÷300pw
On 60 shots
BigYo1017 TV That’s what’s hard, try shooting even 30 shots in the Nba and you’d be on respiratory life support.
more like 400 points!!
When you try to shoot something in the trash what do you say? It damn sure ain't "Kawhi" Its KOBE!!
DM this, email this, and have the most famous person you know text this to SAS. I wanna see him make this point.
Tom Green nobody says that shit no more 🤦🏽♂️ old ass hoopers always trying to speak the past
Amir Roundtree I’m 21 I’m still saying “Kobe”.
@@firstdown9702
Now that is some shit old hoopers say, I have never heard anyone say that shit!😅😅😅
Amir Roundtree I’m 15 and I say that shit all the time, old ass hoopers huh
Kobe is starting to become most underrated player in nba history
Becoming more underrated than bird, it's sad
He trash simple
@@lazynoodle7730 you probably think James harden is better than Kobe, stop it
sharkey 1243 you probably think Kobe better than Lebron, just stop broo
@@lazynoodle7730 better scorer and slasher than bron
“Kobe can be a great defender when he chose to be” he got all nba defense 12 times smh. This is stupid
Brandon Smith Kawhi is a good defender when he doesn’t want to defend LMAOOOO
Brandon Smith I remember max one time said that Durant was a better defender than kobe
Jack R big drugs
The last few all nba defense of his career defo was popularity rather than excellent defense.
Greatomeister false sir
Goddamn man ppl needa put more respect on Kobe’s name, why they forget so quickly.... Kobe’s game winner highlights takes 15-20 min to watch on TH-cam
ShahHasArrived his game winner attempts take 15-20 hours to watch
Logical and we all know u miss 100% shots u don’t take
@@Logical281 hating ass dude gtfoh u clown
Dude Kobe shot a lower game winning percentage than Lebron and Wade lol and now definitely Kawhi too
Shunsui Kyoraku yea but he made more than them whatchu tryna say lol. Percentages in this case don’t really help your argument. A closer wants the last shot no matter what. They believe they can make it with the mentality they have
As far as I'm concerned, Kobe was the embodiment of the basketball ideal. Rest in peace.
💯✊🏾
As culture and influence he's definitely waaaaay up his ranking and player value, but still not at all over and in the Mt Rushmore over guys like Kareem, Lebron, Wilt, Magic and such.
@@dusk6159 Kobe is Mt Rushmore, I'm sorry. People seem to forget, but the first thing people mention when it comes to Kobe is Shaq. I mean, almost every great has had another great(some had more than one) playing alongside them. To say not at all is kinda disrespectful.
@@dusk6159 stop. please.
Dusk TheHunter please watch basketball cause you don’t know what you are talking about
Yelling KOBE!!!!!! (When shooting in a trash can) #GOAT
THANK YOU!!
But how often did you make it? I know I missed more than I made yelling kobe
@SamoaVsEverybody_814 ™ 2.0 you right
Thank u
U only yell when you miss, cause that's all he did. LoL
Max literally just ignores history and only takes things from 2015 and on lmao
Poor Kobe 5 rings 2 finals MVP and no respect .
@Samuel Hopkins yea but kobe is better duh
@Samuel Hopkins bcuz Kobe played with Shaq, THE MOST DOMINANT BIG MAN EVER. Ofc he wasnt going to win those.
@@MARITHEKOOLKID ok. You can make a very good argument with Wilt, but I don't think Bill Russell is better. He had 8 other all hall of famers on his team. Which is a big reason he has 11 rings. He also doesn't have more then 16,000 career points. But Wilt yea you can make a argument
U right brother man dead no respect
@@MARITHEKOOLKID bro do u not know how the players in Wilt and Bill Russell's age they played against much much weaker competition and there were like 8-15 teams in the league?
Max is literally the biggest Kobe hater on this planet! No debating!
Nick Wright
@@alihamade1811 Nick wrong
@Ry GuyFacts are like kryptonite for Kobetards.
@@xaviervega468 your dumb asf
@@xaviervega468 you dumb asf too
Kobe literally has a 30min montage of clutch shots on TH-cam, I rest my case💯
Facts
it aint even funny
And the misses? Gotta get the full context if you're gonna make that argument.
@@noelcrenshaw7969 and what does kawhi have? 1 shot compilation from various angles?
@@Convict854 I never mentioned kawhi.
The real
Headline should be.. does max hate Kobe more than skip hates LeBron?? Now that's a debate👍😅
Not a debate at all. Max has been pure hatred on Kobe. While Skip, there are times where he would admit Lebron is doing good
Lol, I want to watch that segment!
@Kyza Yorke I would pay to watch shi like that
@@pjanicattheisco6991 The irony is Max always said that he's Lakers fan even now, but the way he expresses his opinion you'd think that he hates the Lakers, it's so annoying.
@@fraudnaldo3873 well he is pretty annoying if he's not talking about boxing.
Max has been on a mission to dirty Kobe's name since Kobe retired.
💯 and somehow finds a way to blame the Lakers poor GMing on Kobe somehow
FACTS Bra
U look like u sell insurance fam... So lemme get the premium full coverage... I gotta 2008 Dodge Charger Daytona on 30s...
Like a good agent 👀
Because fans are ridiculously delusional about diet mj lmao
TO SHOW YOU HOW DISENGENUOUS MAX IS...WHY HE DIDNT SAY HE IS MORE CLUTCH THAN LEBRON?.... HE PICKS A 5 TIME CHAMPION...WHO IS NOT EVEN PLAYING ANYMORE....
Okay... I am NOT a Kobe fan, but Max ....please!?!🤫
Thanks
Like yeah he has a higher percentage in playoffs but if you really look at when your team needs you the most Kobe is the fucking Goat he would be banging shots left right blowing your mind his first NBA championship Hsaq gets fouled out in the fourth quarter he thinks they have lost Kobe says “ I got this” and hits a of the dribble 3 pointer and continues the demolish them drops 60 points at the age of 38 you know Lebrons highest point game is 61 at the age of 28.... just saying Kobe will do anything and can do when he teams needs him the most Kawhi is a legend but even he wouldn’t go so far
@@somerandomguy3037 yeah just watch Kobe's last game when he dropped 60. He led the team flto a comeback win that knocked the Jazz out of the playoffs. Fucking legend
Night Mare lol for the record lebron dropped 61 on a better team lol
James Bah was he 38?
Kawhi: hits one of the luckiest game winners ever.
Max: "Kawhi is more clutch than Kobe"
🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿
You started watching nba 2 months ago?
"Luckiest" ? Really ?
Kobe has such low % in the clutch, a lot of bad shots, the word "luck" is way more adapted for Bryant.
@@lekremlin1567 stay off the weed
Alan Dilman Stats prove what I say. Kobe is not a clutch player, low %
Kawhi is way more clutch
@@lekremlin1567 ok but Kobe made alot more clutch shots than kahwi did, but he missed more
Kobe is THE MOST QUESTIONED, MOST CRITIQUED & DISRESPECTED ALL TIME SUPERSTAR smh
Thats wat happens when your the best.
Kawhi just hooping and minding his business and the media just getting him disrespected for damn reason🤦🏿♂️😂
Jonathan Pressley Well someone’s got to be the milkman for the media when LeBron retires...
Matthew Spurs hell nahhh
He don’t care he probably don’t even have social media
Matthew Spurs
Kobe Bryant has been to the playoffs 15 times is in 20 year career, 13 times as a star starter!
In those 13 starting playoff years: 27.4 ppg 5.1ast 5.4rebs on 45% FG 81.9%FT with 1.5stl and only 3.0 turnovers! For 13 FREAKING YEARS! He has scored 50+ 1 time, 40+ 14 times, 30+ 89 times! That’s 104 times scoring at least 30+ in the playoffs!! Has average damn near 30+ for an entire postseason 7times
2001-2002: 29.5 ppg 6.1ast
2002-2003: 32.0 ppg 5.2ast
2006-2007: 32.8 ppg 4.4ast
2007-2008: 30.1 ppg 5.6ast
2008-2009: 30.2 ppg 5.5ast
2009-2010: 29.2 ppg 5.5ast
2011-2012: 30.0 ppg 4.5ast
He also a 3-time playoffs scoring champ!
What’s with with the living in he moment thing now-a-days? Kawhi Is having a great postseason Kobe has been doing that since 2001. According to the Standards Michael Jordan, Lebron’s James, & Kobe Bryant has set in the playoffs... Kwahi has to do this for 10 more damn playoffs! Can we pump the breaks and let homie earn his stripes?
@Matthew Spurs see bruh that comment you made about about to have mfs heated 😂 at kawhi for no reason
Kawhi is great but no way near clutch than Kobe
Coatesville Red Raiders I agree Malcolm Windmon is smoking pot.
Shaun Brooks
Lmao google his wc numbers in 01, outperformed a prime Shaq playing top teams like the kings and spurs
Shaun Brooks
Name me one good centre that the lakers played in the 3 peat finals. That’s what allowed Shaq to dominate
The wc matches were harder than the finals so shush
Shaun Brooks
Shaq has the same amount of reg season mvps as Kobe stfu
++Kobe got robbed of one in 06
Please stop talking
If the kawhi more clutch than kobe, he shouldn't loss against Nuggets
There is something really wrong with this max guy
I wld take Wil Cain over him
ENVY...
Monique Little lord no
because Max is speaking facts?
who is max?
ESPN: Power shortage around the world has affected the games
Max: That's because of Kobe.
That would only make Max a tenth as delusional as Kobe fans.
BOL LOL LOL LOLO LOL LOL LOL
😂😂😂😂😂
On Me 🤣🤣🤣
Max is on drugs there is no way in hell that Kawhi is more clutch than Kobe 😂💯
max is big idiot dont talk to much max becuz u dont know basketball
Alieu Camara you’re not biased at all
He is on drugs bruh. He also took iggy over curry to make a shot with the game in the line
He's comparing Kobe's career to Kawhi 2019 season😂😂
There’s a reason you say Kobe when you shoot something into the thrash can 👀
Bro he would attempt an abundance of shots before he made that clutch shot.. He was the reason they were so close in score because of his selfish plays and misses.
People need to realize he is probably the most over rated player of all.
@@BlazedBob Maybe he should pass it to some bum role player and lose like lebron.......
He tosses up garbage shots all the time.
@@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 a bum like Kyle Korver!? Dude was not bricking until the finals
L
This is so DISAPPOINTING AND DISRESPECTFUL to Kobe Bryant.
Not even in the same universe
@Steve Jobs I understand your point but this isn't in the same universe because kobe played like jordan kawhi ain't jordan no question about it. If you believe that kawhi is kobe then u are complete BLASPHEMOUS
@Steve Jobs I'm not taking anything away from your point because I totally agree. All I'm saying is that Kawhi ain't Kobe. If someone says that kobe is jordan then they don't know what they are talking about.
@Steve Jobs There's no other way to put it . Like the great stephen a smith says, these comparisons are blasphemous.
@@brycedagoat4242 why we gotta compare them, why can't he be his own man. Kawhi is a special player, and if I was him I would be sick of being compared to others.
this aged terribly🖤🐍
xaviers_fetus how??? Just because kobe died ??? Stop overrating Kobe because he died
Objective NBA Fan if you think kawhi better clutch player than Kobe I’m sorry you need medical help 🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️
Salman Adan I don’t but to say our opinions should change because a player dies is blasphemy
@@mohamadosman7451 nope kobe is not clutch than kawhi
@@jph5913 Yeah kobe just shot alot in the clutch xD
You can see the anger in Max's eyes when talking about Kobe Bryant.
Robert Beltran Kobe fucked his wife 😂😂
Or Max looked at Kobe's clutch stats.
"if I knew we were gonna have this conversation I would have left to go make some tea" - Stephen A Smith
Ha
Kawhi is a beast but in no ways is he more clutch than Kobe. Kobe had the killer instinct like MJ, that is a rare trait, only seen twice in my lifetime MJ and Kobe.
Kobe was a beast but in no way is he more clutch than Kawhi. Kawhi always has the killer instinct like MJ, when being more efficient than Kobe in the clutch. Yeah my two favorites are MJ and Kawhi.
I love 'Kawhi, but in clutch time I still have to go with 'Kobe.
I'll pick Kobe over that grown baby boy that was out for 20 games, and of course Kobe is better in clutch time
Kobe sucked ass, just look at how many shots that dude took. Kawhi is much more dependable overall n in the clutch.
@Sky King shaq wouldn't have won without Kobe, what's your point
o0JBELENOS0o honestly he might’ve won without kobe, he was that dominant
@@kennyransome1481 bruh no he wouldn't have, and you can't say maybe he would've when it didnt even happen lol
The Absolute DISRESPECT by Max is BLASPHEMOUS!!! Nobody else is having the conversation, Nobody!
Eric King His job is to make Stephen A Smith mad, obviously
Eric King maybe nick wrong or Shannon sharpe
kobe clutchness overrated af, gtfoh
Who's here after Kawhi got owned by a 23-year old
I don't understand how this was allowed to be aired
Alex Carter 😭😭
😄😄😄
It's facts.
xx1j you dumb bitch how is it facts?
4:30 Damon Jones' face when Max said that LOL
@Matthew Spurs lol that was my reaction as well
Matthew Spurs What are you, 11 years old or something?
Max: how about that shot! How about that shot!!
Kobe: I have alot of those
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p Don't need to when he pretty much already closed out the game from his opponent, you ppl don't know shit about basketball holy shit lmao
@Ry Guy Not a Kobe Stan, I just see basketball. You're new to basketball, you don't have to hide it.
Alot of bricks
Don't even mention Kobe and Kawhi in the same sentence.
Kobe and Jordan that's it. No player today is even close. #Facts.
Exactly
So you mean a player who has got:
3 More MVPs
1 more finals MVP
More All-NBA first team appearances
More points
More assists
More rebounds
More blocks
Shoots a higher percentage from 2
Shoots a higher percentage from 3
Has a MUCH higher +/-
Has a MUCH hugher field goal percentage in clutch situations
...is not even close
Yeah you're right it's not even close. He is way ahead of Kobe
Utkarsh Dave Sahni ko
We all know you don’t like Kobe
All those awards are voted by the people so I don’t care about them mj got one thing over Kobe and that’s one more championship
"Kobe could be a great defender when he chose to be." Max seems to know very little about NBA basketball. He just knows cliche's.
hold on though, i think he meant Kobe in his last years. Then it is true, that Kobe no longer kept on defense because of that Achilles injury.
Oh for crying out loud. He makes a clutch shot and suddenly he's better than Kobe and Jordan on clutch? Cmon now Max. U trippin'.. u trippin' bruh..
Right he wasn't even talked about until that shot. Kawhi wouldn't even be talked about if LeBron made playoffs or KD didn't get injured or if he didn't make that 4-5 bank shot to win against the 76ers
Lol, don’t invoke “god in basketball forms,” name!!!! (Larry birds words... by the way) ain’t NO ONE talkin about Jordan!
Look at the closing stats my dude
@@MrScArEy88 it was very clear. A LUCKY SHOT.
Kal El bruh kawhi blew a 3-1 lead 🤣
The reason Kobe so great is people like max saying he’s not
Kobe was clutch for damn near 20 years while kawhi has been clutch for one playoffs
MERCENARY Ak47 well one playoffs for you, cause I know for a fact you didn’t watch the Spurs at all unless it’s the finals
how many finals ^
How has Kawhi been clutch for one playoffs when he already has a Finals MVP?
Clutch my ass, his success in clutch shots is terrible.
MERCENARY Ak47 he’s saying up until this point in their careers.....but it’s still a dumb argument because kobe was on the bench his first two years
Watching this after kawhi blew a 3-1 and shot 6-22 14 points.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I watching this after Kobe blew a 3-1 lead in 2006 and shot 25% in a GAME 7 in the NBA finals.
Kobe alone in 2006
kawhi +PG 2020
@@thepeoplestightend1939 He still grabbed 15 rebounds that game. Even when he had an off game, Kobe found other ways to help his team win the game.
@@michellediaferio1513 Umm he actually had +/- of ZERO. So statistically in that Game 7, Kobe had no impact at all.
@@thepeoplestightend1939 Do you think the team would've won without Kobe's rebounding? Yes, he had an off night shooting, but that's because he was playing on a broken finger. Metta World Peace had a -1. He had the 3 pointer that sealed the game. Did he have no impact?
How this even a topic? Learn to "Respect" the elders ☝ Mamba stay clutch.
No doubt. 👍✊
Kawhi is the goat
Stay clutch? You would have to be clutch first.
Mamba got Ws so 🤷🏾♂️
What a beta
lmao all the real 1’s don’t even got energy for this BLASPHEMY! 😫
Since when is saying Kobe wasn't good in the clutch, blasphemy? The dude only shot 26% in clutch situations. If I missed 3 out of 4 shots in the clutch, no one is calling me clutch.
@@MillzTheAthlete Maxx is that you?
@@MillzTheAthlete and even if it was 26% so what it's bc Kobe has taken way more clutch shots than kawhi ever will. And Kobe didn't have to be clutch when he put up monster numbers, and still shut down the best on the other team. U gotta be young to say what ur saying. Kobe was never second best on his team, he was always the best.
@@MrScArEy88 Shaq won 3 finals MVPs. Wtf are you talking about? Shaq avg 32 and 15 in those 3 finals. No true fan would ever say Kobe was the first option when Shaq was there.
@@MrScArEy88 Making more clutch shot by default because of volume doesn't make you clutch. I'll take the guy that makes 9 of 15 rather then the guy who makes only 10 of 40. You are one of the dumbest fans I've come across. At least most Kobetards vacate the comment sections once facts are introduced. You just look at those facts straight in the face and say fuck you. Its this type of thinking that gave the US a president named Trump. The kids in the bobo classes are all grown up.
This take currently resides in Antarctica 100 feet under a sheet of ice.
🤣🤣🤣i guess we need to be thankful for global warming so we can come back and watch this clip.... because this is HILARIOUS. And i love to laugh
Max just doesn’t know basketball as well as boxing ... it’s so obvious, he’s not even giving Steve A a battle on some of these topics.
k doubs your wrong Stephen A just uses emotion while max uses facts
k doubs you just like SAS cause he’s funny, SAS just says stuff the majority of people would agree with. Kobe isn’t at the level Kawhi is
Kobietards Lol has to be the dumbest shit I heard all year, just mad lame....meanwhile Kawhi has one playoff run as the man and he’s more clutch ? We’ll see against GS in finals what’s really good !
Jack R literally always uses emotion never use rational argument to destroy max, he just calls him disrespectful or blasphemous and threatens to walk out lol
@@ipodtouch573 what facts
Can’t compare stats when the game is sooo different now
Exactly. Kobe was getting tackled on half his clutch shots. There isn't a comparison here
Then what exactly can you compare
Noel Crenshaw actually watching the games
@@saiyannamekian8341 But the games are so different now though right? So you can't really compare those either.
@@noelcrenshaw7969 you can't see CONTEXT in stats, watching games allows you to see the context and conditions in which stats are accumulated. Kobe was in an era of tougher defense and weaker teammates outside of his championship years
Why do people even listen to Max? He's the same dude who went on live TV and said with a straight face that KD isn't a top 5 player right now😂
LeBron James 🤣
He was definitely killing me when he said KG was close to Malone in top 5 power forwards to play game. Smh
Never can we appreciate individuals, we always have to compare.
That’s called sports and competition. I love it.
TheDangerDane below the heavens. Amazing album fam
That is so true. People keep doing it and it drives me nuts.
SAS says you could get called for a foul for passing gas.
Max Kellerman: Let me straighten up.
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Ahhh u must've watched that take AND HEARD heard max fart lol
Max is over here pretending like he doesn’t shoot crumpled up paper balls into recycling bins while yelling “Kobe!”
@rick😂😂😂😂😂
I’m a huge Celtics fan but Max is high AF, if he thinks Kawhi is more clutch than Kobe.
Kobe was known since day 1
This why Stephen A. Smith my dawg👌
"That proves it" I like max, but, yea, there's a difference from knowing ball and being a baller
Rofee305 nah, Kawhi is a baller.
@@thehaitianway7706 my Haitian brother, that's my point, they both ball. But coming from Jones, an ex baller, he's knows what it feels like to face Kobe. If you're joe Smith in 2003 and you're facing kg, you scared. You're facing timmy, you're stressed but not scared. Its the temperament and type of player they are. Someone can honestly ball on you, but you're just frustrated. When someone barking at you and looking at you like he's gonna kill you, you're demoralized and mentally out the game.
Rofee305 got it ✊🏿🇭🇹💯
Jones knows ball cause he's an ex-baller lmao. That's the weakest excuse ever. By that logic why do so many ex-ballers suck at coaching and GMing teams... 2 jobs that are heavily centered around recognizing and developing talent. Just cause a guy used to play doesn't mean he's good at evaluating/judging talent.
If you’re talking about putting fear into the hearts of an opponent then your not talking about someone who can score relentlessly over you but someone who will stop you from scoring and take you out of the game. That’s Leonard easy, you can’t say it’s bc Kobe is that type of way, you’re just comparing the fact that Kobe talks and Leonard doesn’t then saying it’s fact bc an “ex baller agrees”. Have your own opinion dude don’t put you’re argument on someone else’s opinion but on statistics, also most great analyst aren’t ex ballers so that made no sense lol
I love how he comes to these conclusions after two playoff runs
After seeing him go 6-22 in a game 7 this better not be a debate ever again
Really? Kobe shot 25% in a GAME 7 of an NBA final yet still got bailed out by Pau.
WTF is max k on 🤦♂️
Joe Roth crack
Hater-ade
Max really need to stop talking basketball 🤷🏾♂️
Word, because you dont want butthurt Kobe fans talking nonsense on the youtube comment section. Lol
You notice they didn't compare rings. That'll shut all that nonsense up
@@klynch7222 So are you saying Derek Fisher is better than Kawhi Leonard?
@@MillzTheAthlete don't know how you came to that conclusion considering the conversation was about Kawhi and Kobe.
@@klynch7222 Just answer the question.
Dictionary defines " Moron" with picture of Max so people really understand meaning
max only looks at the paper... stats guy... he doesnt know squat about basket ball.... every time i see him open his mouth i am that much closer to skipping the video
Kawhi is a great player but Max is getting out of hand with all his blasphemy.
Max is giving Kawhi mad love !!!
I’ve seen Kobe triple teamed in an All Star game for crying out loud!!
Yeah because he wouldn't pass. Of course you would triple team that guy
Utkarsh Dave Sahni
There’s only 1 shooting guard in NBA history that has more career assist than Kobe Bryant. That doesn’t happen “not passing”
Ry Guy
Ok, I’ll entertain you for a minute..... Kawhi has been “clutch” for 1 playoff season. Who was calling him clutch in San Antonio? People were ready to write Kawhi off last year when he sat out all but 9 games. Y’all gotta chill with this narrative! How quickly people forget.
Ry Guy
Numbers don’t tell the whole story either. According to “numbers” we can also say that John Stockton is not a great point guard and he can’t handle the ball, since he does top the list as point guards with the most turnovers in NBA history. But we can’t say that because he was one of the greatest point guards of all time. So numbers don’t tell the complete story. I guarantee that Kobe has burned your team on more than one occasion!!
Ry Guy
But does that mean he does NOT have the most turnovers by any point guard???! No!!! You can’t defend a bad stat with a good stat, that not how this works. It was just an example of numbers NOT telling the complete story
Im a big Kawhi fan but... Aint NOBODY more cluchty then mamba and thats a fact
MJ?
Mj & LeBron but Not kawai
@@teresa-oj9rq 1) mj 2) Kobe 3 ) lebron
If you put lebron or Kobe at 1 I wouldnt be mad at you
Max is starting to sound like Paul Pierce 😂😂
Oh no lmao
All I’m going to say I will take the opinions of the players over the analyst any day. Players say Kobe is the best hands down
Damn.... Ry Guy spit the facts.
Is that the only example? Well Kobe got drafted 13th by Charlotte hornets to then get traded to the Lakers for Vlade Divac the same night. So shit happens!!!
@@Domo8247 You do realize that it's former players making decision around the league front offices, right? Not every decision is correct. In fact, a majority are incorrect, which is why we see so many former players on TV.
And you do realize that the 96 Hornets Coach that didn't want Kobe was also a former player?
You are only proving Ry's point, genius. You should do a minimum amount of research before replying about stuff you know nothing about.
Players, star players in particular, make pretty bad GM's
They have hard time guessing talents ceilings but looking at someone body of work is a different thing.
they saying this after one season of kawhi being relevant 😂
CLOUTKU He’s always been relevant wtf😂
Austin Leach No he hasn’t. Dude just became relevant offensively 2 years ago and the media was killing him for not playing he season before. Now they’re all over him
Max Kellerman has gotten way too disrespectful, does Max know who Kobe bean Bryant even is? There's a reason his Nick name is the Black Mamba!!! This is so blasphemous!!!
Kobe has a nick name just like all other super stars. Hell, Shane Battier even has one. So stop that. Kobe was great be he's over rated as a clutch performer.
@@younglove3362 ur name is young Love for a reason, u too young to know what Kobe was capable of, Kobe 3peated with Shaq and then carried his Lakers to the finals for 3 straight years winning back to back titles, the list of people to do that in nba history is not a long list
@@kckc7140 Bro 2000-2010 babies don't know anything. LeBron and Kawhi are great but Kobe was clutch when you needed him to be. His last game was just an all time example of an old player doing what he did best when he was in his prime.
@Ry Guy Dude, you're a prime example of someone who either just started watching basketball and is going with the current stars or you're just talking out of your ass.
Kawhi doesn't get the recognition that he deserves, because he's very quiet.
hipking23 facts!!. I’ve noticed that even when he was at Spurs he was overshadowed
So being compared to kobe isn't recognition?all we talk about this playoffs is kawhi he definitely getting recognition
starboi klem no but people are downing him like can’t compare to Kobe in anyway
our hair defies gravity so can we fax
our hair defies gravity so can we Steph got his shit clamped by Kawhi pussy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
'Called for a foul 4 having bad breath' 🤣🤣🤣🤣 4:50
And passing gas. 😂😂😂
As a Boston Celtic fan I grew up hatin kobe but right now I'm like max wtf are you on?
Max: Kobe's destroying the Lakers from behind the scenes. Kawhi is more clutch than Kobe
We see you Max 🤦♂️ #FanboyMedia IsToxic
EVERYONE: KOBE KOBE KOBE!!!!!
MAX: brrrrt
Max : First Take is better than Undisputed
Stephen A : You wrong and I’ll tell you why
No one yells “kawhi” when throwing trash away 🤷🏾♂️.
I yell Jordan
Everybody yell kobe its just natural😂
Or people who blindly throw grenades across the map LMAO
Anyone here after witnessing the greatest choke of all time?
If prime kobe was playing against the bucks this year it would be a sweep. Period. He would average 40+ ppg period.
Hikmat Mohammadi 😂😂😂 do u really believe that
Scotpalmer who’s going to guard him? Middleton??
Michael Osamor Middleton was trash this whole series I’m sleeeeep 😂😂😂 Kobe would do that nigga dirtyyy
People seem to forget that most the top players in the league today have gotten better or showed some type of Improvement the year after they had summer workouts with kobe..Kawhi was one of those Guys..🤷🏾♂️
Max is proving his expertise in boxing by displaying his ignorance in basketball
Kobe is in the GOAT conversation. He was driven to win without Shaq and won twice without Shaq leading his supporting cast as a laker. Kobe was a WINNER. Plus... Kawhis game elevated because he worked out with Kobe. Clutch or all around it doesn’t matter Kobe has it.
Kobe is a far less successful MJ clone, he ain't in no goat conversation.
1 mvp in 20 years career is disgraceful for a goat candidate.
Floyd The goat who are you to decide who’s a success and who isn’t? That’s an arrogant statement for you to make. Who the hell are you?
Max should never be able to talk basketball....PERIOD!!!!🤐
He should just stick to Boxing......till he dies
Facts
Thank you Stephen A. for putting Max back to time out where he counts his fingers all day of what Kawhi does. Lol
Max never wins basketball discussions lmfao.
Ry Guy tf are u saying? His argument is pathetic and retarded, the fact that you’re going with Max shows ur lack in knowledge in basketball
Kobe being Tied for the most all defensive 1st team selections all time means nothing to Max Kellerman... lol
Max doesn’t know what he is talking about💯
max is smokin the weeeeeduh more clutch than kobe???
He does support legalizing weed so...😂
Y’all act like Max lying or something😭😭😂😂 Y’all keep tryna push this narrative that Kobe was some clutch god who never missed when in fact he was well over inefficient then he was efficient. Kawhi’s stats & numbers shows he is indeed the more clutch player on both sides of the ball.
we can cherry pick stats and irrelavant numbers all day bottom line everyone max has said this in front of has laughed in his face it just isnt true its clearly just another topic to diminish kobe and hype someone else up kobe is always the fall guy because he was an asshole and not the nice friendly media lover like lebron
Craig Royce this discussion has nothing to do with Kobe’s personality or LeBron. Bottom of the line is that we have proof Kawhi’s been better under pressure player than Kobe. You don’t have anything that shows Kobe is a better under pressure player than Kawhi. Stop tryna use narratives for an excuse
Craig Royce tell me in you’re own words how Max is wrong with what he said. And the numbers aren’t irrelevant just because they don’t fit your narrative kiddo
because kiddo kawhi just became good offensively within the past 5 years hes taking 1 playoff run and comparing it to kobe career not taking in account the level of competition the position the roles the rules and different play styles of each era who the two were guarding the level of competition in each conference the amount of help surrounding them etc even max knows this argument is stupid the entire basketball community outside of a delusional blind ignorant few are roasting him as we speak this shit has become a damn meme cmon man its not rocket science kobe has had more clutch moments in regular season playoffs and finals and guess what didnt need load management to get there neither lol
Craig Royce one playoff run? He’s already won finals MVP before🤦🏽♂️😂😂 & 5 years isn’t a short time & He’s been relevant on defense his whole career kid. Offense isn’t the only way you can be clutch genius. Styles of play have nothing to do with this. You’ve yet to tell me how Kobe is more clutch than Kawhi. All of that other shit irrelevant. You’re only rebuttal is that it’s a dumb argument but you’re not tell us how😂😂😂 & If anything, the rules make it easier for people to score in this Era rather then the early 2000s & Kawhi’s STILL shutting people down😂😂😂🤷🏽♂️. You don’t just have to look at this year. When the Warriors first got KD & player the Spurs in the playoffs, Kawhi was fucking them niggas up then. He had the Spurs up with a 23 point lead & then he got hurt & they lost. Rather than you tell me how Kobe’s more clutch, you keep looking for excuses to poo poo on Kawhi😂😂🤦🏽♂️ Kobe the same nigga that has the most career misses & the same nigga to blow a 3-1 lead aswell🤦🏽♂️😂 Kawhi’s #s & percentages show he’s more clutch. You still can’t tell me how Kobe’s more clutch. So if you don’t have proof to back up your argument, don’t cry that the debate is dumb to start out with cause it’s not fitting you narrative kiddo
Look at Kobe in game 7s he stepped up where was Kawahi last night?
So... if Kobe’s such a terrible closer why are we comparing Khawi to him and not Lebron? Oh right... Max also dickrides LbJ he couldn’t trash him like that 🤦🏻♂️
Kobe carried 2 champions went three years in a row in the finals without shaq kawhi hasn’t even won 1 by himself
No one has ever won by themselves
So you gonna act like Paul Gasol and Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom wasn't on that same Kobe team oh and not to mention the Zen Master as a coach
Those lakers teams were stacked for it's time. Don't forget so quick. He had pau gasol, andrew bynum, ron artest, and odom.
@@advithvashist9889 Besides Pau Gasol who was a all star on that team
ZeetheBeast u noodle ass nigga he had an all star and 2 borderline all star. Kobe is a great but don’t undermine the crew he had
Last time I checked there was no smut on his name get out of here max Kobe was the heart stopper RIP NIP💙🏁
Sonia Coleman 💙🏁
Max should just never bring the word clutch out his mouth again
My definition of clutch is pulling the W. Kobe has 5 rings.
Denver Nuggets may have changed this debate
Tryna figure out why they keep comparing players that are retired to players that are still playing it’s annoying and they keep disrespecting Kobe and they’re playing in two different eras 🤔🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Game-tying/go-ahead field goals with under 10 seconds left in the postseason:
Michael Jordan: 7/15 (47%)
LeBron James: 12/23 (52%)
Kobe Bryant: 5/22 (23%)
Kobe was never clutch. Recalling Kobe's spectacular moments is not evidence that he is clutch. For every impossible shot he made, how many shots did he actually miss?
You are looking out of context my guy I’m pretty sure every shot he took he was getting doubled and tripled.
haters and irrational people dont like numbers. they think it take away from the game when you can factual prove them wrong
@@chrisringer5778
Lol exactly: He was taking bad shots...
@@chrisringer5778 kobe always had bad shot selection...thats why he has the worst field goal perctentage than everyone in the nba
@@chrisringer5778 Yes Kobe was famous for taking low % shots with 2-3 defenders on him instead of passing to the open man. I think the "eye test" gives him a false impression of greatness, when in reality he squandered possessions.
Hey they are using the phrase that I made up:
Kawhi-et
Remember kids, even when you the best, be humble, be quiet. Be Kawhi-et
Kawhi is a better clutch player than Kobe up to this point in their respective careers, nothing wrong with that statement.
ibr bak Thank you at least you understand
Compton 187 only player in nba history to hit a game winner buzzer beater in a game 7 and he carry a raptors team to the final.
@@Comptonx187 hit timely clutch shots at a good percentage in 4th quarters and towards the end of playoff games, play exceptional defense and shut down the best players on opposing teams especially down the stretch of playoff games (Lebron, Giannis, Mike Conley, Westbrook, etc.), win a Finals MVP. Sorry, I don't mean to be captain obvious, this is all obvious stuff that anyone who's been watching him play for his career would have seen.
Compton 187 stop lying to yourself defrozan was not doing anything.
You can't replace Kobe, he was the best out of all of 2000's thus far and have gotten NBA the most money and was the most known out of every player in the NBA out of all of "the 2000's" till now as well as "helped" one (not multiple) NBA team win more championships then Leonard has in the NBA.
Does Kobe not have 2 rings without shaq max? Bc he keep saying shaq💀
Yes kobe does have 2 rings without Shaq but let's be honest the debate is at the age of 27 what has kobe done and what has kawhi done in the clutch.
@@yunggpacino in game 7 of the 2000 WCF, the Lakers came back from a 15 point deficit in the 4th quarter when Shaq only had 9 points until then. Kobe's defense played a huge part in that comeback and he hit clutch freethrows and some clutch shots. Kobe finished with 25 pts, 11 rbs, 7 asts, 4 blocks as a 21 year old. Shaw finished with 18 pts, 9 rbs, 5 asts, 1 block. At the end of the game, we all saw the lob to Shaq 🔥🔥🔥
@@erikmerced6329 One game lol you funny kawhi had an NBA finals MVP already at that age and kobe ain't get a finals MVP until he was 30+just face it kawaii accomplished more at the same age but he has to keep winning rings he needs 3 more to get 5
@@yunggpacino lmao I only gave you one example and you think Kawhi is still more clutch 🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I'll pray for you
@@erikmerced6329 We know kawaii is more clutch he won a championship at 28yrs old with a team on his back while locking down Giannis!! And that's 2 finals MVP's before 30!!kobe rest his soul was SHAQ'S Pippen.
Every real sports fan and critic knows stats aren't everything...
Max is totally wrong to say that Kobe was not even this is asinine as f****** conversation
He basically saying since he takes smart shots he " clutcher " then kobe😂.... my guy clutch means game winning shots or big plays that SEAL GAMES Max!!‼
It’s easy to defend someone when breathing on a player is a foul