The narrator implies that three years of mourning was a grueling and excessive thing for women. In fact, it was a form of clemency for them. For women of that era, being unmarried at an older age had quite a stigma of disrepute to it, and living without a suitable male head-of-household (husband or father) was extremely suspicious. The fashion for mourning clothes gave women a way to signal to everyone that they had an excuse for her otherwise unconventional living situation. Mourning clothes would help keep a woman's reputation safe in the two or three years it might take her to remarry; without mourning clothes to protect her good name, she might not have the OPTION of remarrying.
I was born after my grandfather died and only ever saw my grandmother in black. I thought it was a sweet gesture, sort of a symbol of her always thinking of him even after he had passed. No one told her to do it, she just did.
Mother: Now dearest Elizabeth don't be so dramatic in attire, It was only thouse second hand cousin that die- Elizabeth: Draped in black gown with 40ft train and veil* Mother: Oh my gracious lord.
Queen Victoria had practically everything painted black especially in London. Things such as railings, lampost, Park benches, doors, London was a very dark city. She herself was not seen in public for over 10 years.........such was her grief.
+SpecialEd Ginger No, not show off, simply add to conversation. Aiming for a more witting approach rather than boasting... Not sure particularly what makes that pretentious.
Not surprised to see the top comments getting in a fuss over that tiny remark of being "born in the wrong century." Geez, she was obviously just very passionate about her choice of dresses, and liked the whole mourning-fashion culture of the Victorian era. I'm pretty sure she didn't mean that she couldn't wait to give up her right to vote and reduce her lifespan. Some of you guys have the nuance of an edgy 14 year old.
Some of those visitors were wearing black ball gowns (low cut, cap sleeves). I don't think a Victorian lady in mourning would go to a festive evening event especially dressed like that. Sometimes ladies wore black in elegant evening attire outside of mourning. I volunteer at a historical museum and it was reported in the social pages of the time that the lady of the house (now the museum) went to a major event dressed in black velvet and diamonds. She wasn't in mourning at the time. So a black evening gown wasn't unheard of. It just wasn't mourning.
If my source is correct, widows could attend festivities after the first year of mourning, once she was allowed to take of her veil. But before that point, she could have no social interaction except going to church.
This report begins by saying that it was a collection of mourning dress from 1815-1915. The dresses may be accurate but the information...? Not so much. To say that Queen Victoria dressing in mourning for the rest of her life was "overkill" shows low little the reporter knows about 19th century mourning etiquette. There are too many documented examples that say otherwise. In fact, how long one mourned depended mostly on who it was that died. When a distant relative such as aunts, uncles, cousins or grandparents died, that was when a period of 1 year was sufficient. For a parent or sibling died, at least one full year was required, then partial mourning for another year. But when it was a husband, his widow was expected to wear black for the rest of her life. I have read enough books written AT THAT TIME to know this was common. Women usually dyed all their clothes black to this end. So, no. Queen Victoria was not "over killing" mourning. Another famous woman of that era that wore mourning for the rest of her life was Lilly Lantry. I expect some misinformation from unknown sources. But this is the reason you're paid the big bucks, CBS. You're supposed to get it right. Take the time to look these things up. Don't just trust one source. Or are you not hiring proper journalists anymore? Please stop re-writing history. Do your research.
And that hyper-dramatic voice! I hear that and I'm immediately suspicious of the veracity of the information. Just give us facts, please. Accurate and reported with professionalism. We don't need your personal interpretation.
I'm sorry for your loss and I think that is sweet of you to pay homage to his memory. It does let people know how deeply affected his death was to you and shows your love you have for him in your heart.
Terry Westbrook-Lienert I'm sorry for your loss and offering my condolences. Just said a prayer for you that God will comfort you during your time of grieving and healing.Even though it's been a year it takes longer than that to heal the pain. Hugs.
They way over exaggerate the length of victorian mourning, it depends on who died, for a window it was only two years the first half of year one was full morning then the second half she added white with the black or wore grey, year two added purple inside of white or entirely purple that was the introduction back to colors
I know this is about informing people of the mourning practices but the very first two outfits shown (on the people who spin for the camera) aren't properly Victorian, they are just goth. A Victorian lady would have NEVER wore her corset on the outside (first one) and that velvet outfit the next person has is just goth.
"The term crape typically refers to a form of the fabric associated specifically with mourning, also historically called crespe or crisp." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%AApe_(textile)
Assuming you're middle class today, and saying you believe you were born in the wrong era, would mean you would have no rights, would be almost forced to have shildren until you have a biy to carry on your last name, you wouldn 't have a toilet, a normal bathroom, you'd be forbidden to work, you'd probably die by the age of 30, if you don 't die during labour... it's easy to say "I believe I was born in the wrong era" when you want to be a royalty of that era and not the class you would 've actually been.
It's true that no one would want to be lower, middle, or even on the lower end of the upper class during the Victorian era. However, the life expectancy was about 40, and if you survived childhood you would probably live past 50.
Plenty of families had only one or two daughters. They knew quite well how babies are made, and that's why husbands and wives often slept in separate rooms. Actually, a lot of houses had earth closets, which work just fine, and no more nasty to deal with than taking out the kitchen trash daily. We use a system of that sort when camping, and it's very easy and sanitary. You weren't forbidden from working, but you had to give up marriage to do it. Usually the partnership of a married couple both worked; she, inside the house, and he, outside it. And there was a lot more work to do than we appreciate. Up until the modern era, if you (1) survived to the age of 5 and (2) survived having children (female) or military service (male) and didn't get hit by one of the random pandemics, you could very well live into your eighties. One problem was that inadequate nutrition to a developing girl will mean that the bones of her pelvis don't grow properly, which means that she will have extreme difficulty in giving birth naturally.
Most people who truly feel that way do know the unpleasant parts of that time period...I wish I wash from that era and would much rather deal with those things if I had the power to go back in time.
As gruesome as it may sound, I love wearing full matte black mourning dress as I could express my grief but I normally wear it for a week if the relative is distant and a month for closer relatives. Immediate relatives would take a month to over a year for me to recover as it would hurt me and leave me in grief. The half mourning stuff would be worn about a year or two after black and it would consist of grays, whites, black and white prints like a floral and even lavenders and deeper purples.
White may be traditional for north India but not South India. In South India, people just wear regular clothes, taking care that it's not fancy or party wear.
For all the people offended that she said she felt like she was born in the wrong era, she specifically meant in terms of fashion. Not that she wants to live without vaccines or modern dentistry, or fewer rights. The fact that I even have to explain this is sad. Or maybe it shows just how self-righteous or indignant people want to be in the comments.
In Gone With The Wind Scarlett was 16 when she married Charles, he went to war almost immediately and died 2 weeks later. Would it be expected for her to be mourning for years? Makes no sense.
I'm fairly sure queen victoria adopted a black girl as her child, so it really depended on luck back then. But being black in the Middle east/Europe/America during that time usually was not a good life.
I always want to laugh at people who say they were born in the wrong century. Like, do they not KNOW how horrific the Victorian era was?! Not just for women, but just about everyone. It was awful. Also, being born back then doesn’t mean you’d be born RICH back then, and life wasn’t easy on the poor. I adore the Victorian clothing aesthetic, but THIS is more or less the time when I want to be.
I like how people said they would like go live in Victorian times but I asked someone what class would u want to be in they came back “first” if we could go back in time there will be a lot of rich victorians cos everyone wants to be a rich Victorian and no one wants to be poor and I understand why
i don't know how it is in the u.s. because i come from a european family. maybe each country differs even in europe, but even now people wear black for those that they are in mourning for. i don't know how long men wear black for, but women depending on who died, whether it's their husband, sibling...etc., child-mourning time vary's upon who died. i think that a husband would be 1 year, for ex. i wore only black for a while after my father-in-law died. my mother wore black recently for a few months, for a close relative that passed and only added a little white or color as she came out of the mourning period. basically u can't go out and be seen in public where people know you unless you are wearing black otherwise you'd embarrass yourself for your lack of empathy toward the deceased. i bought my mother-in-law something with color a few years ago after my father-in-law's passing and she could not wear it until the end of the mourning period. But even today many of women that i know as they age (european women) no longer wear viabrant colors but darker. it's like a faux pas to wear bright colors for a mature woman, the older she gets the darker colors she wears.
in Puerto Rico people didn't mourn at children's funerals instead everyone would act happy I wonder what they thought of American women who mourned for years.
Awkward M.M. I understand celebrating the life of someone who lived to old age, but at a child’s funeral, that seems out of place. I know I would be severely depressed about the death of a child, even if I barely knew the family.
Awkward M.M. My family and I are Puerto Rican, and my mother describes her funeral experience as people wailing and being so dramatically sad, it was overkill (excuse the word choice). Puerto Ricans tend to be a passionate people who make certain their emotions are *very* known, whether that be joy or sorrow. Perhaps the child funeral(s) you refer to were celebrations because the child died while still pure of soul, and so would be likely to go Heaven than someone who had the chance to sin a lot without repentance? EDIT: That being said, I see a lot of Americans trying to make funerals a happy occasion, which I do not find all too beneficial--people need to mourn, so it's best to let it all out early on rather than suppress it and pretend to "move on" without passing that obstacle.
Omg can i have the first dress shown???? IDC if my significant other is alive or dead Ima wear that every fancy evening opportunity I'd ever get but that dress is pretty DAMN
When my husband died 6 years ago, I wore black on the day he was cremated. Next day I was back in my usual jeans, trainers and T-shirt - none of them black. One chapter of my life had closed the previous day, I had now turned the page and moved onto the next chapter. However, I like black as a colour e.g. a black suit for the office, the little black dress and so on. It is a versatile colour that goes with any other colour.
Yeah.. they'd hate living in the late victorian era.. no proper medical/dental care, no proper loos, no sanitary items for the ladies. They'd all be very lowly servants too. To say nothing of the foul polluted air in the cities. They would hate it.
I wish that one day people of Europe ( native Europeans) go back to their traditional clothes and cultures. Not only them but the world will be beautiful with people who protect their traditions.❤️ But I don't think most people like living like that. These styles are left to romantic classic books and might never come back to the world. Everyone who likes those times only can find it in old books.
There are people today that wear black all the time as a fashion statement. And then there are the Goths I went through that stage at 19 back in 1990. Black isn't worn today for the same reason as back in those days.
I still think it is a massive sign of respect to wear black to a persons funeral, regardless of you relation to the deceased. I've seen people nowadays wearing tracksuits to funerals! Standards really have fell by the wayside.
Black was definitely NOT(!!) a colour of mourning in the middle ages. Black was a horribly hard colour to achieve until the invention of artificial dyes. It took several layers of dye to achieve, so only the very richest of people could afford such luxurys! Many colours have been colours of mourning through the years, including white.
"Imagine wearing nothing but black for years." More accurately, "Imagine HAVING to wear nothing but black for years." Years, as opposed to months...and an entire wardrobe, as opposed to "a band of crape around the hat." I don't see the logic (if any) in such a disparity, but at least a mourning woman would have avoided the poisons in colored fabrics!
To all those who believe Victorian-era women were oppressed by mourning rules: Bear in mind that men had a much more limited color palette than women. Men in that era did not wear pink, rose, red or any other frivolous color. There was nothing to take away from men because they were already wearing somber colors. Men did not "get off easy" by merely wrapping black cloth to their hats. Postmodern feminists have misinterpreted the situation. Again.
Guys, seriously? Howard Wiggins was only referring to the differences of men and women in FASHION, not the gender inequality of men and women. Though, I would recommend making that last statement a bit more subtle, in a way, since it can easily be interpreted as a bit offensive.
Wear nothing but black for years? Okay, I know losing a loved one is heart wrenching but what if you meet someone else and you're ready to move on sooner?
That’s probably because it’s a modern goth take on Victorian clothes (note the corset on the outside; that’s like wearing a bra over a shirt). I think it looks lovely, just pointing out that it’s modern
0:33 ...? Uhm, I do wear black from head to toe. For the most part of almost 30 years now. Looks like it wasn’t a phase...DAD! 🖤, A Dorothy In Red Mary Janes
And yet for all the nonsense a widow had to do, a widower had about a 3 month waiting period then it was perfectly suitable for him to resume his full social life including courtship and marriage as quickly as he pleased.
The narrator implies that three years of mourning was a grueling and excessive thing for women. In fact, it was a form of clemency for them. For women of that era, being unmarried at an older age had quite a stigma of disrepute to it, and living without a suitable male head-of-household (husband or father) was extremely suspicious. The fashion for mourning clothes gave women a way to signal to everyone that they had an excuse for her otherwise unconventional living situation. Mourning clothes would help keep a woman's reputation safe in the two or three years it might take her to remarry; without mourning clothes to protect her good name, she might not have the OPTION of remarrying.
I was born after my grandfather died and only ever saw my grandmother in black. I thought it was a sweet gesture, sort of a symbol of her always thinking of him even after he had passed. No one told her to do it, she just did.
"imagine wearing nothing but black for years" sounds a whole lot like my life lol
yeah, came here to write the same XD
The widow would also often wear a brooch or necklace with her deceased husband's hair and photo inside.
Hot.
I could see the use of a veil, if you are upset and don't want to feel like people are staring at your red face.
gypsy irish Or you could be smiling underneath it if your husband was not a nice man.
Southernbelle2978 Or of he was handsomely rich
Mother: Now dearest Elizabeth don't be so dramatic in attire, It was only thouse second hand cousin that die-
Elizabeth: Draped in black gown with 40ft train and veil*
Mother: Oh my gracious lord.
Scoobert Doobert that’ll be me when my great grandma kicks the bucket omg
Queen Victoria had practically everything painted black especially in London. Things such as railings, lampost, Park benches, doors, London was a very dark city. She herself was not seen in public for over 10 years.........such was her grief.
Mark Gable, the Widow of Windsor was particularly distraught, yes.
Grace casually trying to show off your knowledge, eh?
+SpecialEd Ginger No, not show off, simply add to conversation. Aiming for a more witting approach rather than boasting... Not sure particularly what makes that pretentious.
Not surprised to see the top comments getting in a fuss over that tiny remark of being "born in the wrong century."
Geez, she was obviously just very passionate about her choice of dresses, and liked the whole mourning-fashion culture of the Victorian era.
I'm pretty sure she didn't mean that she couldn't wait to give up her right to vote and reduce her lifespan.
Some of you guys have the nuance of an edgy 14 year old.
Some of those visitors were wearing black ball gowns (low cut, cap sleeves). I don't think a Victorian lady in mourning would go to a festive evening event especially dressed like that. Sometimes ladies wore black in elegant evening attire outside of mourning. I volunteer at a historical museum and it was reported in the social pages of the time that the lady of the house (now the museum) went to a major event dressed in black velvet and diamonds. She wasn't in mourning at the time. So a black evening gown wasn't unheard of. It just wasn't mourning.
If my source is correct, widows could attend festivities after the first year of mourning, once she was allowed to take of her veil. But before that point, she could have no social interaction except going to church.
"Imagine wearing NOTHING BUT BLACK...FOR YEARS!!" *smiles gently and hands you a Sisters of Mercy album* lol
Dylan A. Kent 😂😂
Dylan A. Kent yessssss
Lmao
Same! 😂😂😂
🤣🖤
This report begins by saying that it was a collection of mourning dress from 1815-1915. The dresses may be accurate but the information...? Not so much.
To say that Queen Victoria dressing in mourning for the rest of her life was "overkill" shows low little the reporter knows about 19th century mourning etiquette. There are too many documented examples that say otherwise. In fact, how long one mourned depended mostly on who it was that died.
When a distant relative such as aunts, uncles, cousins or grandparents died, that was when a period of 1 year was sufficient. For a parent or sibling died, at least one full year was required, then partial mourning for another year.
But when it was a husband, his widow was expected to wear black for the rest of her life. I have read enough books written AT THAT TIME to know this was common. Women usually dyed all their clothes black to this end.
So, no. Queen Victoria was not "over killing" mourning. Another famous woman of that era that wore mourning for the rest of her life was Lilly Lantry.
I expect some misinformation from unknown sources. But this is the reason you're paid the big bucks, CBS. You're supposed to get it right. Take the time to look these things up. Don't just trust one source. Or are you not hiring proper journalists anymore?
Please stop re-writing history. Do your research.
Empress Sisi wore black after her son committed suicide for the rest of her life.
Marige OBrien queen Victoria was in mourning until she died herself was a personal choice
George P Buttworthy She expected that her daughters would follow suit. Vicky (eldest daughter) followed her mother's example.
Marige OBrien I
And that hyper-dramatic voice! I hear that and I'm immediately suspicious of the veracity of the information.
Just give us facts, please. Accurate and reported with professionalism.
We don't need your personal interpretation.
Born in the wrong century? Wait til you go to the victorian dentist! Lol
Or get treated for hysteria ...
Thinking the same....she sounds very naive, like a fourteen-year-old.
or realise how few rights you would have had
Also the mortality rate during childbirth was extremely high.....not a picnic even if you lived thru it.
At least the Victorian's weren't wimps like many are today.
They wore gray and purple too. There were stages to it. They didn't just wear nothing but black for years on end.
Belinda Garza The gray and purple would have been for half-mourning; this would have lasted for about 6-12months after full mourning.
"imagine wearing nothing but black for years"
hm. goth? metal? anyone who prefers black over colour?
Aye, I love black clothes. but goths don't always wear black. they can add a hint of colour. It depends on what your most comfortable in.
Kimberley fox
I don't always wear black either. but there are people who are only comfortable in black, for example (comment from above)
There is also a big difference from choosing to wear it (goth, metal, etc) and society forcing you to wear it
I don't need to imagine it. I live it!
+choirkitty True, and just for being a woman, because men didn't have to do it for so long...
'imagine wearing nothing but black for years'...
*IS GOTH*
+Tubeway armies I've been wearing nothing but black for nine years now. :D
for me it's about 5 :')
+Tubeway armies :')
black goes with everything ;D
+Tubeway armies So true! Especially with red, purple and dark blue, if you ask me. :D
Wearing your corset over your dress? Scandalous!
I wore all black for three months after my husband died two years ago. I was 26
I'm very sorry for your loss. I'm so sorry.
I'm sorry for your loss and I think that is sweet of you to pay homage to his memory. It does let people know how deeply affected his death was to you and shows your love you have for him in your heart.
My sympathies. I, too, lost my husband August 21, 2015.
Terry Westbrook-Lienert I'm sorry for your loss and offering my condolences. Just said a prayer for you that God will comfort you during your time of grieving and healing.Even though it's been a year it takes longer than that to heal the pain. Hugs.
Paige Cat Thanks, dear one. Let us remember to pray for one another. 😘🙇
We still do this in my family. Tradition is key.
I think everyone should still do this, at least then people won't be rude to you when they don't realise you're actually grieving, if that makes sense
those puffy sleeves in the thumbnail give me life.
They way over exaggerate the length of victorian mourning, it depends on who died, for a window it was only two years the first half of year one was full morning then the second half she added white with the black or wore grey, year two added purple inside of white or entirely purple that was the introduction back to colors
"Imagine wearing nothing but black, head to toe, for years." Already do 👌
I know this is about informing people of the mourning practices but the very first two outfits shown (on the people who spin for the camera) aren't properly Victorian, they are just goth. A Victorian lady would have NEVER wore her corset on the outside (first one) and that velvet outfit the next person has is just goth.
I compare whatever I see about Victorian and Edwardian eras with 1920s ever since watching Downton Abbey
I love them clothes. Couldn't imagine going to a mourning dress shop for a black dress. This video is so cool!!
It's spelled "crepe", and pronounced crape.
"The term crape typically refers to a form of the fabric associated specifically with mourning, also historically called crespe or crisp." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%AApe_(textile)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crêpe_(textile)
***** Yes that's the same thing I referenced. Your point?
I actually have an immortal character who wears nothing but mourning clothes. She lost her love many years ago, and now always wears black.
Assuming you're middle class today, and saying you believe you were born in the wrong era, would mean you would have no rights, would be almost forced to have shildren until you have a biy to carry on your last name, you wouldn 't have a toilet, a normal bathroom, you'd be forbidden to work, you'd probably die by the age of 30, if you don 't die during labour... it's easy to say "I believe I was born in the wrong era" when you want to be a royalty of that era and not the class you would 've actually been.
It's true that no one would want to be lower, middle, or even on the lower end of the upper class during the Victorian era. However, the life expectancy was about 40, and if you survived childhood you would probably live past 50.
You are exaggerating a few other things too.
Plenty of families had only one or two daughters. They knew quite well how babies are made, and that's why husbands and wives often slept in separate rooms. Actually, a lot of houses had earth closets, which work just fine, and no more nasty to deal with than taking out the kitchen trash daily. We use a system of that sort when camping, and it's very easy and sanitary.
You weren't forbidden from working, but you had to give up marriage to do it. Usually the partnership of a married couple both worked; she, inside the house, and he, outside it. And there was a lot more work to do than we appreciate.
Up until the modern era, if you (1) survived to the age of 5 and (2) survived having children (female) or military service (male) and didn't get hit by one of the random pandemics, you could very well live into your eighties. One problem was that inadequate nutrition to a developing girl will mean that the bones of her pelvis don't grow properly, which means that she will have extreme difficulty in giving birth naturally.
Most people who truly feel that way do know the unpleasant parts of that time period...I wish I wash from that era and would much rather deal with those things if I had the power to go back in time.
If you could even survive, that is. Most people didn't even live past the age of 30 back then.
White isn't the colour of mourning in Japan though. Only the deceased wears white, the mourners wear black kimono.
The dressess are very pretty.
"Imagine wearing nothing but black for years"
*laughs in goth*
the two goths at the beginning are slaying me
When I was (am?) I was too depressed to think about what I was wearing, but I guess its a good thing most of my clothes are black.
As gruesome as it may sound, I love wearing full matte black mourning dress as I could express my grief but I normally wear it for a week if the relative is distant and a month for closer relatives. Immediate relatives would take a month to over a year for me to recover as it would hurt me and leave me in grief. The half mourning stuff would be worn about a year or two after black and it would consist of grays, whites, black and white prints like a floral and even lavenders and deeper purples.
Can you imagine if it was possible for the victorian to see how we do funerals to day they would be so shocked
"Men had it easy"..... men only ever wore black suits the vast majority of the time anyway. They had far less options in their choice of dress.
White may be traditional for north India but not South India. In South India, people just wear regular clothes, taking care that it's not fancy or party wear.
I love the black dresses💖💖
Beautiful dresses!
Love this documentary
For all the people offended that she said she felt like she was born in the wrong era, she specifically meant in terms of fashion. Not that she wants to live without vaccines or modern dentistry, or fewer rights. The fact that I even have to explain this is sad. Or maybe it shows just how self-righteous or indignant people want to be in the comments.
In Gone With The Wind Scarlett was 16 when she married Charles, he went to war almost immediately and died 2 weeks later.
Would it be expected for her to be mourning for years? Makes no sense.
Jakob Hopfer I would wear her mourning dress. It’s stunning.
It was less about emotion and more about etiquette
Why do Victorian mourning clothes all look like they belonged to a woman who really loved her past 5 rich husbands who died mysteriously?
MultiPaco06 bc that’s the Victorian Aesthetic (tm)
Very beautiful and very fitting for our time 😢🔯✝️🕉️☸️🇺🇲🕊️
where is this museum located?
NYC
The word for the crinkled fabric is “crepe”, not “crape”..
Born in the wrong century, hunny I'm black I think I'll stay in this centruy
hah my thought exactly.
When people bring up milkshake era 1940's I'm there like : God bless 2018
XY / BY ikr I’m mixed so yeah
I'm fairly sure queen victoria adopted a black girl as her child, so it really depended on luck back then. But being black in the Middle east/Europe/America during that time usually was not a good life.
L5940 yes and that black girl was an African princess. Queen Victoria thought all royals should take care of one another. Total luck.
Are you saying that being born into a royal family can't be considered lucky?
I always want to laugh at people who say they were born in the wrong century. Like, do they not KNOW how horrific the Victorian era was?! Not just for women, but just about everyone. It was awful.
Also, being born back then doesn’t mean you’d be born RICH back then, and life wasn’t easy on the poor.
I adore the Victorian clothing aesthetic, but THIS is more or less the time when I want to be.
I like the the dress next to the purple one at :51
Amelia James the grey one? I like the mantle on it
We wore something pink for my great grandma’s funeral. That was her favorite color.
"Imagine wearing nothing but black head to toe for years."
_thinks about my current wardrobe_
I ❤️ⓛⓞⓥⓔ it....... I wear black all the time... although it is a taboo to wear black during Chinese New Year.
I like how people said they would like go live in Victorian times but I asked someone what class would u want to be in they came back “first” if we could go back in time there will be a lot of rich victorians cos everyone wants to be a rich Victorian and no one wants to be poor and I understand why
well I think I found the perfect wedding dress :D
Sarah Parker what if you swap them so the black dress is a wedding dress and the white is a funeral dress? Idk, puts the fun in funeral
i don't know how it is in the u.s. because i come from a european family. maybe each country differs even in europe, but even now people wear black for those that they are in mourning for. i don't know how long men wear black for, but women depending on who died, whether it's their husband, sibling...etc., child-mourning time vary's upon who died. i think that a husband would be 1 year, for ex. i wore only black for a while after my father-in-law died. my mother wore black recently for a few months, for a close relative that passed and only added a little white or color as she came out of the mourning period. basically u can't go out and be seen in public where people know you unless you are wearing black otherwise you'd embarrass yourself for your lack of empathy toward the deceased. i bought my mother-in-law something with color a few years ago after my father-in-law's passing and she could not wear it until the end of the mourning period. But even today many of women that i know as they age (european women) no longer wear viabrant colors but darker. it's like a faux pas to wear bright colors for a mature woman, the older she gets the darker colors she wears.
"imagine wearing nothing bur black head to tow for years!!!" literally my wardrobe...
“…but imagine wearing only black from head to toe for years.”
Safia Nygaard: “*you have summoned me?*”
in Puerto Rico people didn't mourn at children's funerals instead everyone would act happy I wonder what they thought of American women who mourned for years.
Awkward M.M. I understand celebrating the life of someone who lived to old age, but at a child’s funeral, that seems out of place. I know I would be severely depressed about the death of a child, even if I barely knew the family.
Awkward M.M. My family and I are Puerto Rican, and my mother describes her funeral experience as people wailing and being so dramatically sad, it was overkill (excuse the word choice).
Puerto Ricans tend to be a passionate people who make certain their emotions are *very* known, whether that be joy or sorrow.
Perhaps the child funeral(s) you refer to were celebrations because the child died while still pure of soul, and so would be likely to go Heaven than someone who had the chance to sin a lot without repentance?
EDIT: That being said, I see a lot of Americans trying to make funerals a happy occasion, which I do not find all too beneficial--people need to mourn, so it's best to let it all out early on rather than suppress it and pretend to "move on" without passing that obstacle.
Omg can i have the first dress shown???? IDC if my significant other is alive or dead Ima wear that every fancy evening opportunity I'd ever get but that dress is pretty DAMN
Jo Yin the modern goth one?
"Born in the wrong era" uh I like vaccines and current medical care thank you
When my husband died 6 years ago, I wore black on the day he was cremated. Next day I was back in my usual jeans, trainers and T-shirt - none of them black. One chapter of my life had closed the previous day, I had now turned the page and moved onto the next chapter. However, I like black as a colour e.g. a black suit for the office, the little black dress and so on. It is a versatile colour that goes with any other colour.
Widows would keep a small vial on their mantle which held their tears and displayed the vial for visitors to see.
what's the song at the start called?
I've worn head to toe black for the last 25 years.
This is very interesting
ICONIC!!! ANDY BLACK *WHO* ??? PETE WENTZ *WHO* ?????
Vienna Jordan now that’s a mood
Yeah.. they'd hate living in the late victorian era.. no proper medical/dental care, no proper loos, no sanitary items for the ladies. They'd all be very lowly servants too. To say nothing of the foul polluted air in the cities. They would hate it.
I wish that one day people of Europe ( native Europeans) go back to their traditional clothes and cultures. Not only them but the world will be beautiful with people who protect their traditions.❤️ But I don't think most people like living like that. These styles are left to romantic classic books and might never come back to the world. Everyone who likes those times only can find it in old books.
There are people today that wear black all the time as a fashion statement. And then there are the Goths I went through that stage at 19 back in 1990. Black isn't worn today for the same reason as back in those days.
I like this
I still think it is a massive sign of respect to wear black to a persons funeral, regardless of you relation to the deceased. I've seen people nowadays wearing tracksuits to funerals! Standards really have fell by the wayside.
I WANT TO BE LIKE THIS IN HALLOWEEN T-T
"imagine wearing nothing but black for years" hun that's me anyway so I would complain or have much trouble with that 🖤🖤😂
It might be crap as well, but it is written crepe.
These dresses are my dream 😍 btw uhm i always wear black head to toe lol 🤣
1:51 That dress on the right I believe that to be MINE gorgeous!
Black was definitely NOT(!!) a colour of mourning in the middle ages. Black was a horribly hard colour to achieve until the invention of artificial dyes. It took several layers of dye to achieve, so only the very richest of people could afford such luxurys! Many colours have been colours of mourning through the years, including white.
"Imagine wearing black head to toe, for years."
Me rn
"Imagine wearing nothing but black for years."
More accurately, "Imagine HAVING to wear nothing but black for years."
Years, as opposed to months...and an entire wardrobe, as opposed to "a band of crape around the hat."
I don't see the logic (if any) in such a disparity, but at least a mourning woman would have avoided the poisons in colored fabrics!
erm - believe it's spelt "crepe", not "crape"
I don’t see a problem with only wearing black....they say it like it would be a bad thing....I do it since about 3 years
More like CBS Sunday mourning
To all those who believe Victorian-era women were oppressed by mourning rules: Bear in mind that men had a much more limited color palette than women. Men in that era did not wear pink, rose, red or any other frivolous color. There was nothing to take away from men because they were already wearing somber colors. Men did not "get off easy" by merely wrapping black cloth to their hats. Postmodern feminists have misinterpreted the situation. Again.
Howard Wiggins lol ok
“You women couldn’t vote and marital rape was legal but you could wear colors!!1!!1 See, it was equally bad for both genders!!1!1”
shut up howard
Guys, seriously? Howard Wiggins was only referring to the differences of men and women in FASHION, not the gender inequality of men and women. Though, I would recommend making that last statement a bit more subtle, in a way, since it can easily be interpreted as a bit offensive.
"But imagine wearing nothing but black, head to toe...for years." Been good so far
Lots of people do. Isn't it known as 'goth' or 'emo' style now?
1:27 looks like a burka to me
born in the wrong era? she doesnt even know if she would be able to use a dress like that she could be just a servant... loool
Wear nothing but black for years? Okay, I know losing a loved one is heart wrenching but what if you meet someone else and you're ready to move on sooner?
If you were a woman tough you had to mourn your husband for 2 full years
Imagine feeling obligated to wrap yourself in yards of black clothing for years in "mouning" of someone you did not even like..LOLOLOL
Pronouncing "crêpe" "KRAYP" lol
Nati Whatever it’s not the French word
They literally spelled it out for you too
0:05 I would actually wear today
likewise
That’s probably because it’s a modern goth take on Victorian clothes (note the corset on the outside; that’s like wearing a bra over a shirt). I think it looks lovely, just pointing out that it’s modern
First comment after Queen is now a widow.
Girl, you definitely were not born in the wrong century.
Right!?
nothing but black for years....wait..that's what I'm doing haha xD
Interesting how things come back but different.....nothing like black and corsetry for a Christmas party these days!
0:33 ...? Uhm, I do wear black from head to toe. For the most part of almost 30 years now.
Looks like it wasn’t a phase...DAD!
🖤, A Dorothy In Red Mary Janes
Imagine wearing black for years? It's called being goth in the 90's during my HS days. lol.
"Imagine wearing nothing but black for years."
Lol. I'm a Goth.
And yet for all the nonsense a widow had to do, a widower had about a 3 month waiting period then it was perfectly suitable for him to resume his full social life including courtship and marriage as quickly as he pleased.
I wouldn't mind wearing black... it's classy
yeah but man had morn for 6 months imagine that I'd say that is just ridiculous
*looks down* wait that's not normal to wear head to toe black?