Working at Google - First Impressions as a Software Engineer
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0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Culture
1:05 - Work Life Balance
1:55 - Free Food
2:40 - Tech
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10/10 for the intro lmao
Lol
He definitely knows how to keep people engaged
Hey NeetCode, loved the video and thanks for the insights. I do have to disagree with you on one thing though - If there's anyone who does deserve nice employment, it's gotta be you, mate.
You've done so much for the community and I'm sure you've transformed so many people's lives!
I second this. There are countless other vendors out there just trying to take people's money, and they provide nowhere close to the quality of NeetCode's content.
Love that you mentioned the internal abstraction problem!!
It’s something that I’ve heard from a lot of engineers at google.
I can definitely see how that’s an issue.
Glad you settled down and you're thriving.
Thank you for always updating us.
I just start a job in Amazon partly thanks your channel👏🏼
I definitely feel the same pain as you regarding company internal tools.
It was nice talking to you at the discord event. Please do more of it!!!
Thanks, yeah for sure! 👍
Share a link to the discord for us casuals that don't have it
@@peterkim1867 You can find it in the description of this vid
Really happy for you dude. I think you deserve it :)
Very relevant video to someone who just escaped a long stride of unemployment and got an offer from a huge company that offers free meals and has a labyrinth of internal tools unfamiliar to most outside of it. Just gonna say I really appreciate your channel! It was probably the best resource I found for preparing.
The internal tools used in Google is an example of specialised training where employees are trained towards their products and software which are unique so that its harder to transfer your skills in Google to another company like Facebook.
this is true. i started at google right after college and dont even know how i would change jobs if i even wanted to (which i dont at the moment). i only ever had one internship as well lol
I'm a student working at a mid-sized tech company (~50mill ARR) since my COOP in september and honestly I had pretty much the same experience (tho at a way smaller scale haha the closest thing we have to a personal chef is a keurig machine that brews coffee lol, but we also get free beer).
Especially the lack of docs in internal tools. It's the most frustrating thing to get to a point in debugging where VS just skips over the code where the bad thing happens and you can't just google the problem. Now you gotta look and find the repo and dig into the code spend hours tryna understand wtf is going on only for the senior dev to basically know what's going on and fix it instantly.
IMO the best thing about it is the variety of stuff to do which is what I think differentiates working in software companies vs working in a company with an IT sect. I've had a friend who spent their time in something like the later and it's not fun. Basically an office job: you spent little time coding/ solving problems and more or less dealing with bureaucratic corporate stuff.
Based on my experience so far (and contrary to a lot of my beliefs I had during hs), I learned you don't need to work at FAANG to get that software culture and work environment (tho you will make the most money working there)
4:27 describes generally how it is feels to work with any gcloud library; it's easier and quicker to read the code and frob the inputs in such a way as to coalesce it into behaving as expected than it is to read the documentation which is generally either old, incomplete, or missing.
Great video! I failed my google technical interview a couple weeks ago but I’m going to continue to try. I still work for a pretty good company and now I k ow what areas to work on if I want to work for Google.
All the best, I'm gonna start my IT carrier in 2 months and hope I'll be able to join google in 2 years
Hi @marie could you please guide me share me the materials you prepared so far 🙂
I have been using your videos to help me prepare for my Google interview in a week. Thank you for providing some of the best leetcode content I have encountered!
How did it go?
As a Google senior engineer and follower of the channel I was really interested in your opinion. I guess this will come with time but I'm very interested in your opinions on design docs and perf culture in the future.
Anyways regards from your fellow Googler in Canada
Edit:
Sorry forgot to mention, your opinions of internal tooling and documentation is 100% spot on
your not afraid that when a company abstract too much (instead of using industry standard) it can backfire on you and make your business less agile and fast ? it happened to so many company in different industry outside of tech... because your starting to live in your little tech world you created yourself FOR yourself and it cause more issues than what it solve etc for example Google Cloud can't compete with Azure / Aws etc why use different standard than the industry standard in others fields like Ansible etc
Your content is helping me at lot in my journey. Thank you for doing this.
Really great insights. Hopefully you can turn this into a regular quarterly series or something.
Hi Neetcode, I recently got an offer for Microsoft, and I will be starting next year! Thank you so much for your videos, it helped a lot!!
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉
Best of luck
Hey congrats! Got any tips that I can use to get into Microsoft too?
R u gonna fix Windows? No? Nobody is.
@@David-rz4vc Yes! Try to focus more on the behavioral side of the interview, they give a lot of importance to that portion. Also, study a lot of strings problems, all the problems I got on my interview were about strings, and it's a common pattern for microsoft interviews. Best of luck!
I just got my offer from G and its all thanks to this channel!! You are the absolute best!
Congrats!
I still remember when you say "I'm still unemployed so let's do this leetcode question", jeez.. now you're at google, totally savage.
Thank you, I learned A LOT from you. I hope the best for you
The thing about abstraction feel kinda weird. To me, google exposes waaaay more of how things work than most orgs, especially if they’re built on public clouds. Like, you can see how racks/servers are organized in a way you typically wouldn’t think about elsewhere. You can see the code for everything - databases, distributed processing, VMs, whatever. A lot of the most unique stuff isn’t open source but the papers have been published to the public - spanner, flume, mapreduce, Zanzibar, etc - so you can kinda see how things work from the outside. It’s pretty awesome.
That's pretty crazy to hear about the differences in food! Eat all you can man! You deserve it. Thanks for sharing about your experience. Thanks to your videos I was able to land a new job and get a competitive salary. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for sharing. At least we have a chance to see google from inside. Please keep sharing, most of us won't be able to get there and having a friend working there is super Cool.
Got into google, starting this summer. Thank you for your leetcode videos and the insight to working there!!
Hey can we talk?
@@bishakhdutta8427 are you selling something or buying?
@@fpsgamer3688 I just wanted him to take my mock interview smh
@@bishakhdutta8427 hey how did your interview go? I ll be interviewing in a week
Hey bro good content. Thanks for the neetcode in the next months it will be my resource to study :)
Thank you so much for sharing your job experience. It is so funny how they make candidates reverse linked links or difficult algorithm questions with rarely used data structures and not use it at real work :}
your videos on leetcode problems are so helpful! I just got my first frontend engineer job at Uber, and i'm on my week 1! Thank you
Please strangle the backend team for me. The android app makes me want to die.
@@jaafaralawieh940 LMAO
I have an onsite interview coming up thanks to ur channel - keep up the miracle work!!
Good luck my friend.
You are just modest to think that yo udon't deserve such a good job, that's what would keep you striving and content at the same time. Loved your genuine opinion!
As someone at the end of their programming career I find this very interesting. Back in the day everything was proprietary because there were no open source frameworks, few commercial tools and pretty much every company had very different ways of doing things. Moving job was always a huge learning curve. Then things improved with more standards, open source frameworks and popular commercial tools being used everywhere but it looks like large corporations are now going back to proprietary in house tools and frameworks to give them an edge. Things seem to have gone full circle.
That's a really interesting perspective i hadn't heard before, makes me wanna learn the history of software.
@@NeetCode Here's a nice bit of history for you, back in the 1970's most coders were women. It was considered a job requiring too much accuracy and patience to be entrusted to men.
Is it all worth it in the end ?
Loved the transparency, thanks for sharing.
I work at a FAANG company. The free food is nice. I think the company I work at does their food really well and they have good consistency across locations. They hire regional culinary managers to focus on quality in those regions and the menus.
Hi NeetCode! I just stumbled upon your channel today and I am grateful I can get information and relate to somebody who has also been Neet. I am still currenlty Neet, but I have quit a lot of bad habits (including losing weight, getting into exercise, quitting drugs/drinking) recently. I am glad somebody who was neet managed to get out and is now a successful youtuber and programmer! It's recently been my dream to learn about mathematics and learn how to be a SWE. The thing thats kept me sane and gave me purpose when I didn't think i'd quit drugs or drinking was math and coding.
Tell me, when you were in your lowest point as a neet, did coding or academics give you purpose in life like no other? Im thinking of picking up a part time job soon and wanting to go to school for mathematics and maybe minor in CS or vice verse. Just want to understand your frame of mindset when you decided to just put your nose to the grindstone and learn coding
Because of your videos I was able to land a job at a FAANG company. You’re the goat
Great video man. I love the honesty
Super interesting hearing about how all the internal tools add a lot of Googlely layers of abstraction and complexity. Also funny how Google doesn’t use GCP much, and spanner pretty much breaks the CAP theorem. It definitely sounds like there are some unique challenges to working at Google. Thanks for sharing - hope you get to reverse some linked lists soon!
Spanner doesn't technically break CAP theorem because it focuses on being a CP system with 99.999% availability. Because it uses atomic clocks to generate timestamps, it can pretty much guarantee that partitioned writes are still served in the correct order when the system is restored.
Because Google literally is the definition of NIH.
They invent everything themselves
for example they recommend gradle for Android but use Bazel internally for some of their projects
Which boggles my mind
@@halcyonramirez6469 Bazel is meant more for large codebases, using it in a small Android app would be overkill. But you have a point nonetheless
Thanks for your video. Received email form Google’s recruiter and hope I could get enough luck to join Google. Really nice working environment especially in NYC, heard from my friend working there.
Super cool insight to help us see behind the Google curtain.
If I was Google, I would hire a team that does extensive documentation and that's all they do. They listen to any new commit, update documentation accordingly, and reach out to the author for more details if necessary. I could also see them do design docs for better code and doc organization. They would also be the goto for asking about any project. I imagine this team would have to be very large, but like you have Google money. It should be worth it in the long run.
Those people would have no fucking clue what is actually going in the docs, and would need to reach out to the guys making the changes(ie: get the guys who wrote the code to write the docs)
At Amazon/AWS, they try to use public AWS but teams are often required to build on internal tooling that often feel clunky or outdated
Thanks to your channel I accepted my Google offer last month! I've loved onboarding so far. You're awesome Neetcode!
Congrats 👏🎉🎉🎉
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Hey! Did you have the option to work fully remote? Also what team do you work on?
Nice review, I feel like you just described where I work as well same thing tools and abstraction, yamls and configs, automation....
I love the M&M example so much.
How does the mono repo work? Is it like one big repo with smaller repos beneath it? Otherwise I imagine it'd be too big to clone to your laptop, and would have merge conflicts etc.
A new perspective for describing Google.... Hats off to you
Hi Neet.
Is it legit a monorepo or a repo with submodules? How long does it take to pull it? How do they keep size in check?
I am right now interning at the MP1 building (5:08) and the food is pretty cool in the campus. Breakfast has less variety though. Work wise I feel there is a lot of interesting things going on and while output is expected, you won't really feel the pressure. And oh, Google has an extensive network of free transport here in the Bay Area.
Love your content man 👌👌
Thanks for being so honest!
This came at the craziest time lmao. I am interning there now and all these internal tools are so annoying, because I can't learn them from some online youtube videos like I usually do, I am limited to the subpar internal docs.
Hey sorry to be a bother, but can you please tell me how did you get the internship ?
I hate reading the old code more than the internal tools. As you said, subpar documentation of old code can take so much time to actually make the code any clearer.
Thanks for the videos man! Out of curiosity, can I ask what is your leetcode profile?
Great perspective from a new grad POV.
There are lots of other quirks at Google that you will learn once you have more experience.
Awesome video...thanks for sharing :)
hey when would you say is the right time to interview after studying leetcode (feeling confident) etc
Hey i dont know what department you worked in but i wanted to ask you a question . Is there any way i could get my old gmail account back if its been longer than 6 months since deleting it? They say its impossible to retrieve but i know my data must be stored somewhere especially since i cant make a new account with the same name because it's "taken" any advice on who to contact or how to retrieve my account (other than the usual Google account recovery thing) would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks :)
I can relate to you abstraction point. I used to work for a company which used to do the same.
Its really pain, you don't understand whats under the hood. Still nice video mate.
Tbh I feel exactly the same about the internal tooling issues, but I work for a 150 ppl company instead. Our own tool is amazing, for most of the times. When there's a bug, I head directly to my mentor.
How about coding algorithm. Have you had to solve any task using an algorithm O(logn), O(nlogn), etc? Or even have you seen it implemented in some code?
Thanks for sharing! Google is a huge company, there's so many micro cultures that exist
This is awesome! 👏🏻👏🏻
Pretty interesting video, thank you for the inside look. If I may ask, what made you want to work at Google or other similar big companies?
Im curious hehe.
the level of honest is incredible
Hey, great video
I have a question. What programming language do you use at Google or what role where you hired as in other words what do you do everyday
Mind if you share your journey ? How you got started with coding self taught, boot camp or school ?
my question is do google ask system design question for SDE1 role or any entry level SDE role ?
thanks for sharing your genuine feedback
Great vid. Hopefully I can make it to Google one day!
I’m an intern in the New York office, it’s great!
You have to realize that at companies the size of Google, culture is highly dependent on your department or division. I work at a very large tech company and I love my department but we also score extremely high on our employee satisfaction surveys compared to the rest of the company. It's pretty obvious that if I were working in a different part of our tech org, I would not be as happy.
This is just something to keep in mind for people who are new to the tech scene (or really the corporate job scene in general). It is very important to grill your potential employers when you are interviewing. If one company is offering $150k but you don't get a good feeling from them and another company is offering $130k but you feel like it's a great fit, the second job is going to be a better use of your time and feel more rewarding overall (unless you're a masochist...)
I have a question for you, are you allowed to use other browsers other than Chrome on your work computer?
Yeah it's allowed
I’m curious to know if Google cares about your experience in working with specific languages i.e. Kotlin/Java etc. It seems like they only care about data structures and algorithms and not so much on technical skills or experience in using those languages/frameworks/tools.
Yeah, at the interview stage they definitely don't care about your language experience
Thanks for the insights, very interesting stuff. I tried getting an internship at Google, got into the project search stage, but they could not find a project for me. hopefully I will have another opportunity in the future.
Same for me :(
Nice update. I need to train more b4 applying.. I am coming.
Congrats man! I really want to part of Google some day.
Welcome!
GCP is a lot newer than other Google stuff. Eventually, more stuff will be on GCP
Really curious but does anyone know what they're riding at 2:51 ? Looks super cool!
how can I work at Google too I just graduated yesterday I want a list of what needs to be done please
FAANG has a huge difference from the rest of the world. So many things are handled automagically for you through internal tools that you need to kind of relearn how to exist outside of FAANG
love the "can't imagine a better job" disclaimer at the end for his bosses watching XD
Had to throw that in there 😉
Would you recommend doing a software engineer bootcamp, for example at University of Texas, to start up in this career? I do have a bachelors degree in biology. Thank you sir!
Man you’re awesome!
I like this. You said it from a different point of view. Maybe after 2 years working there, you can update the video 👍🏽
Dude, can you tell me some resource for learning Python and DS algo I am doing from your videos
Great review
If possible can you give some info about the machine learning team at google?
You deserve more subscribers
Well I’m glad you’re enjoying it…cause at the end of the day that’s what matters.
What is your job role I mean like(front end,backend ,)
What programming language are you using at google please reply
Did you have experience before working at google? And what level are you currently? l3, l4, other?
Congrats!!!
do u have linkedin id?
Even Google's open source FE framework Angular is so sophisticated and has so much abstractions everywhere! Sometimes reading the docs use to feel like I've entered some mysterious land which is so cut off from the outer world(FE toolings) that if I spend more time in here I'll forget to live like a normal person! I think I over over-exaggerated a bit 😆
Are they using macbook?
You deserve that job bro!!
Great video!
This sounds like where I work, tech jobs are incredible.
One day I will also say day one! thanks for sharing your impression
You live like a king man like if good not pretty good