Making a violin - step 22 - Varnishing the violin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- In the second to last video I varnish the violin with the Hammerl varnish. Do you like the color?
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I like how you hang the violin there in a drying chamber, that's very clever!
Beautiful work. I've followed this series from the beginning and it's nice to see it almost completed. You've done an excellent job on it.
Thank you very much Crist!
I was amazed how INCREDIBLE an unvarnished instruments sounds! I sanded an instrument and it was like releasing a suffocating influence on someone, resonance came to life!
Did you try to apply some other varnish on it? I'm thinking about sanding some chinese student violin as it has some cheap hard varnish on it. Curious how much the sound would improve if I would put some more expensive varnish on it that has better flexibility parameters.
So beautiful to see the bird’s eye shine! I was so excited for this video, and it didn’t let us down :)
Thank you, Maestro!
It is, isn't it!!! thank you for your kind words!
Great job!!!!!!
I’ve been following you since day one on this build and you have inspired me to make 3 violins so far..
That's awesome! Please send me some foto`s of your instruments!
Thank you so very much!!! I watched all your videos. Your workmanship is excellent and what a beautiful violin. Thanks again.
I have been following this series and the violin is so beautiful!!!
Thank you very much Josh!
Spectacular Master piece. I can't wait to hear this beautiful violin. Thank you very much.
Honestly, I also cant wait!
Just beautiful!!! Great job!!! Well done!!! I wanna play this violin!!!
Maybe in August!
maestro-Kimon it's looks really nice instrument!!!! Well done boss!!!
Ευχαριστώ Αννουλα!
It looks great! I'm very happy that we got to see your varnishing process from start to finish (no pun intended) :-)
I'm still not sure if I'll make my next violin new and shiny or antiqued, but you did tempt me to make it new with this one.
- Tobias
Hello Tobias. To be honest, to make a nice antiqued varnish that makes sense is harder than the new and shiny! We will talk about that in a future video.
Yes, I'm aware of that. I don't even considermyself able to do a "perfect" finish yet, si doing an antiqued one is probably far fetched for me. I have beeen fairly successful with antiquing for touchups, but I don't think I'm able to do a whole instrument. The challenge is tempting though!
I'm looking forward to hearing your approach to antiquing, actually :-)
Looking forward to seeing the violin completed and hearing it played. Also the procedure to, I don't know the proper term, "break-in" by playing it at various different tones to cause a mellow "voice" when music is played. That is a beautiful piece of art, Maestro. If I were 50 years younger I would ask for an apprenticeship.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I also look forward to hear the violin for the first time!!!
I appreciate this series I’ve watch, you’ve inspired me to take a violin workshop here in Sydney AUSTRALIA, I wil surely look towards this many more times.
Good to hear! All the best on your first instruments!
Where'd you get your timber from mate?
I also need to know where you got your timber from
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beautiful work,
Thank you!
I want to hear how the violin sounds. You left us hanging. 🤣 Anyway great build series. 👍🙏
The last part of the series will be online the 11th of August!
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Thank you so much!
Thanks again for the videos. I have used the Hammerl varnishing kit because of your review and as you mentioned it is very easy to use. Can you tell me the type of mastic you used please, as I did not catch the name.
Good to hear! It is just mastic. The one that is also used for cooking!
Hello, I m a luthier amateur I like very much yours videos and I learn lots of things about violin making. I have a question, after the last varnish coat you dont sand the surface, you don't use any polish, tripoli powder or another one. Is it not necessary? Thank you et congratulations for your work.
Hello Roberto. Thank you for your kind words. I didn't do anything after the last layer. I like that i can still see the marks left by the brush, that gives a real "hand made" look to the instrument. But sanding and polishing is always an option.
Thank you for your answer. I hope in the future you will do a video about final sanding and polishing. It's a difficult step for me and I don't have good results... or... maybe I should stop at the last coat... thanks for inspiring me.
Can you tell me what the mastic is you dissolved in alcohol please?
Maestro, I enjoy watching you video. Thank you so much. Do you sell the products you use in this video?
very clear and informative maestro, do you have any video about making a tailpiece from scratch?
Thank you! No, I don't, maybe something for an upcoming video.
@@maestrokimon I'll look forward to it then, I am very fascinated about how master builders do their craft
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This was very interesting to watch, and your work is beautiful! I would like to ask some questions, if that's okay with you. First, when you sand between coats what grit do you use? Is it important to sand everywhere, even in small crevices? How do you know when you have sanded enough? And lastly, do you add any driers to the varnish, or do you use it as it comes from Joha? I hope this is not too many questions! Thank you!
I have been looking at more of your wonderful videos, including on where you show your technique for applying a layer of varnish, and I find that a lot of my questions are now answered, along with more I hadn't thought of. I think I have been using too coarse a grit, and I've been doing it dry, so I will now use 2400 micromesh with water like you did in the other video. My project is actually a bassoon refinishing, and the advice I got elsewhere involved adding artist paints as color (bassoons tend to need a darker stain than violins usually have) and also a manganese dryer. I don't know if the addition of artist paint might slow the drying time without the manganese dryer. If so, maybe I don't need the dryer in the clear coats on top. I also have been spreading the varnish with my finger with a vinyl glove. This is my first venture into finishing, so I am learning a lot as I go, including a lot from your videos! I have built a UV drying cabinet, using the kit available from International Violin, with a ventilation fan and a disco ball motor to keep the work in motion. I know some parts of my process are different from what you do; I'm doing my best to take in a lot of information and put it together into something that works for me. Thanks so much for your great videos, and if you see anything in what I wrote that sounds like a disaster in the making, please tell me, I'm all ears!
Mastic! 😮
Yes yes! and I use the leftovers in my tsoureki!!!
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How much money do you want for that violin
May share the links of paints please thank your friend
Have a look to these videos for more information about the varnishes I used. th-cam.com/video/EGF5_PlQDIE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/QjLmI7P0gTE/w-d-xo.html
Sadly, I dropped my metal mute on the top plate, which now has a spot of scratchy dent. Now I wonder how can I apply that kind of 8 layers on a tiny spot. :((
Hi..........The brush is natural hair?
Yes, saturale sable hair
Hello maestro keamon!could you post a video about peghole crack and repair with reinforcement;there isn t actually anything about this topic one youtu and even enet.Thanks.frederic.
Thank you for the suggestion. Have a look to the video #19, there I repaired a crack in the A string peg hole.
Hi , Your video was Amazing! I need an Advice, I have an Amazon Violin and is super cheep , I am not a Violin maker, BUT I don't want the glanced color of the violin, I want it to look kind of old or hand-made , even though it was made in China prefabricated... soooo Do you think is a good Idea to use sandpaper on all the violin ? Or is it crazy?
It is a bit crazy but if it is a $100 violin, be my guest!
Excellent instructions, as always! Is it possible to do the varnishing in an Apartment, or does it smell too much?
Thank you! If you have a separate room for the first hours of drying (also to protect from dust) I thin it's possible. I live the instrument rest a couple of days between layers in the living-room!
@@maestrokimon Thank you Maestro!
Прекрасная работа! Следующим инструментом должна быть виолончель.
Thank you! the next instrunent isn't a cello!
Is this shellac varnish or oil varnish?
It is oil varnish made my Joha.
@@maestrokimon thank you. I am not a violin maker but I am using store-bought shellac on a cheap violin I modified. Do you have any advice on shellac varnish?
Hi I would like to know the paint components. Or varnish, I always follow your channel, please help me in the solution
Can I use regular wood furniture varnish from home Depot?
Nope...
@@maestrokimon what if I do? It's a cheap violin
It's bad for the value and the sound of the instrument. Why should you revarnish an instrument?
@@maestrokimon it's only on a small spot
@@maestrokimon where can I order violin varnish
Which is better varnising or using schellakks. ?I am making a violin by your advices.thank you?
A varnish is a complete product, elaborated to achieve the best acoustic characteristics and protect the instrument. Shellac (that can also be a component of a varnish) is good enough to protect the instrument but too hard for the sound. I would use a varnish.
@@maestrokimon Thank you for your answer.
Hi, have you ever tried the gelatine sealing recommended by Hammerl? Cheers Bernhard
Yes I have, it works perfectly. You can see it here th-cam.com/video/EGF5_PlQDIE/w-d-xo.html
Esto es un juego de niños. Lo del maquillaje y tinte de mi mujer es mucho más complejo.👌
Hi and thanks for the video, interesting! I want to use this varnish on other instruments, did you thin it down at all? PS I love the colour.
No I didn't. That is also what the producer recommends.
@@maestrokimon Thanks!
I always happenn to have too much varnish in the bristles so some drops run on the finish and make mess, even if i try to avoid that, do you have any tips?
Try putting les varnish on the brush. If it happens in the chamber maybe it becomes to hot. Try speeding up the ventilator.
How many grams of gum mastic add to how many milliliters of alcohol?
Hello Eda. You can find the complete recipe for an alcohol based varnish in this video: th-cam.com/video/QjLmI7P0gTE/w-d-xo.html
Please not that I didn't use this varnish on the violin of this video. Instead I used the Oil varnish Assortment 1 by Joha.
Can you use Shellac/French polish?
Actually no. This is a way to varnish furniture and not instruments.
maestro-Kimon Thank you for you answer, in Greece and abroad it has been used since the begging of the 20th centuries in mandolins and bouzoukis but I understand it is not in violin
Thank you
@@maestrokimon well not violins but orher instruments are french polished, it was the traditional Torres way for spanish classical guitars
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And now it's a violin.
Great video series, really enjoy watching these and learning about how these instruments are made.
Thank you very much! It feels like yesterday that I started the series yet the next video will be the last one! But I already have the next one in my mind!
Maybe your next project will be a mandolin??
This GiveAway is already closed! The next project is a Pochette and the first part is already online: th-cam.com/video/MT1Scvp0b74/w-d-xo.html
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What?!?!?!!?
الماد المستخدمه فى طلاء اله الكمان
9:15 i also what. sorry i dont understand that part. Please could you transcript that part?
I also sanded the violin. It is just on some other noise!
Brilliant job . Beautiful instrument. Dying to hear it played,
Thank you Brian! The last part is already online, there you can also hear a small piece.
I have a damage violin, I want get it repaired what should I do, plz feel free to contact me on this No.
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What grit wet and dry are you using to rub between coloured varnish coats please?
Hi Jeff. Mainly I use 1800 wet.
Thank you so very much. I have watched all your videos and your workmanship is excellent. Thanks again.
Do some burn-outs with it now !
Sorry? What do you mean?
did you use "bird eye" wood?
Yes...
Subscribed !! My mentor has sadly gone to the great workshop in the sky , and this excellent video is ideal. Thank you.
Thanks a lot for your clear instructiin video! This way is exactly what I also do (I am a luthier student at the CMB of Puurs).
I have a questions though: if I don’t use a special drying-box (UV?) how long is the drying time in the sun?
Thanks a lot!
Thank you Samuel, for your kind words. Without the chamber you will need a day for the first couple of layers and then 2 days. But if you are not in a hurry take your Tina and add at least one day extra. All the best!
Dear Maestro! I like the way you show condensed the different coloured layer in the parallel windows. This video helps a lot. One thing is still unclear to me. Obviously the neck in teh area of the hands stays undone rom coloured layers. But did you alos apply a transparnet layer like the last protective one? - Kurt
Hello Kurt. Thank you for your kind feedback. The neck has no varnish at all. The only thing that I do is apply some water stain to make it a bit darker and the linseed oil to seal the wood a bit and make it even smoother.
you did a lot of hard work on that violin till the end you cut a lot of corners on the varnish .. i believe from reading and strad a lot that the secret of good sound is in the minerals that you preserve the wood with before and after making the violin .. also the varnish . you should of used oil base varnish with all other minerals so to give it maximum sound .
In my opinion the varnish matter is overestimated and especially by The Strad. The varnish is only one part of a very complicated instrument where everything matters: from that wood quality till the strings. The varnish is one of the most difficult parts to understand what regards it's effect on the sound so (in my opinion) it has been overrated. I have made several videos on the varnish and on the ones I use, have a look if you want!
Excellent work, Maestro. The finish has such depth and beauty.
Thank you very much!
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Can you write the names of the materials you use
I show everything in the video! have a careful look!
First, thank you so much for making this video! Second, I was wondering if you had a list of the various items you were using (mastic, and then the others...). Thank you so much! I've subscribed and given a thumbs-up!
Do you mean the recipe of the varnish I used?
maestro-Kimon - Yes, please,
For this violin I used the oil varnish by Hammerl (Joha). It was the varnish from the Assortment 1, you can see it here: www.joha.eu/en/varnishes/varnishing-assortments/oil-varnish-varnishing-assortment-i-for-violin?c=356
cool vilon I got one that was 50$ it broke I'm sad about it
That is so sud! What happened?
well I was putting new strings on and It broke I'm sad about it I want a new one but it will take two months to get another one
I see... Be patient, time flies!
Ok I'll wait
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Thanks 🤗
Thank you 🙏
You’re welcome 😊
@@maestrokimon it’s takes to long to varnish a Violín I’m going to finish do a video how it’s done for 2021 I can make it sound really amazing today why wait 100 years to sound good. I’m going to try. Thanks for your videos again your amazing.
Awsome stuff😍
Thank you!
What varnish and dye do you recommend for a double bass?
The same as for a violin or cello!
@@maestrokimon Could you repeat the formula? I didn't understand a few things, my English is bad.
Do you have any experience with varnishing an instrument?
@@maestrokimon no :(
In that case I would recommend to use the oil varnish assortment 1 by Joha. It has everything you need, good instructions and you don't need to get in the trouble of making your own varnish. Did you make the double bass yourself?