I have worked with trailers like these and this is interesting to watch. I have never seen a dozer pick the trailer up off the ground. We always pushed them. I can see that he might be knocking the dirt off the inside of the trailer, but I am not sure if it is good for the trailer. The dirt looks a bit damp to me. If they chained the gates at 3/4 open and they all went a bit faster, I am not sure how many would get stuck? You notice that the dozer operator did not bother to go back for some trucks, as though he knew who would get stuck and who would drive on through. I have never seen a truck hit the brakes while he was dumping. If these were the aluminum trailers, they would all be in the weld shop by 1pm. A very interesting video and very clear quality too. Thanks,
I operated a 275 AX Komatsu bulldozer pushing up phosphate rock from these bottom dump trailers which the material did not stick. Some truck drivers could unload without getting stuck and only a few could not. My company said to pull the trucks out verses pushing on the trailer when one got stuck.
There's not anything wrong with pushing on the trailer. What's really destructive here is the fact that he's lifting the trailers up and dropping them from 4 feet in the air
some driver know how to dump and others don't .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@DieselandIron Agree is that bottom dump trailers have push blocks exactly for being pushed!! Agree with you as to not dropping the trailers. My experience is the wider the gate opening when dumping the more chance for these trucks to get stuck but if it's a short fill run then not a lot of choices.
I had the same thought when filming. The only thing I could come up with is the soil was a heavy clay mix that was sticking to the trucks and he was trying to knock it out. Not the approach I personally would have taken but hey, if the foreman stops by and tells you that is what you're going to do...
Lorenz doesn't care as long as they meet the quantities. They get the material moved but you get what you pay for in the long run and have alot work to do behind them go finishing up.
You can hear & see the trucks braking against the dozer blade, when they let the brakes go, the trucks fall off the blade. Not much the dozer can do to help them. I suppose The trucks could keep the brakes on until the dozer put them back down
It is a coordinated effort to get the clay out of the trailer. The dozer would not be able to lift the trailer if the truckdriver was not holding the brakes
@@fredrikherbertsson3447 I don't disagree with you there. My bigger concern would be damage to the trailer suspension. It's only a matter of time before you get busted springs, air bags or an axle. Again, if my super told me that's what he wanted me to do then by all means, I'll bomb trucks all day. This wouldn't be MY chosen method to deal with the stuck clay.
You lock up your differential then get on it good so you don't hang up. But it happens All the time! The loader or grader or dozer just come in behind and push you right off! This guy is lifting awful high! Dropping it hard like this has to be hard on the bags and other stuff!!
Oh yes the real drivers of dirt trucks , knows you ever ever use lower gears ⚙️ to pull out the of the pit , I learned from the understanding pit boss on the job site , he said use higher gears ⚙️ in he pit or don’t come back , lol and it worked I learned right on the job 3 or 4 ,5 gears works fine never ever stop , lol nice thanks BigAl California happy Easter everyone be blessed be safe be thankful, praise Jesus Christ grace amen.
Gettin 'er done...If only all the Cut people coordinated with all the fill people; construction would be so much easier...:)...That's a lot of site for one D8 to rough grade...
He was doing a good job keeping up with all the trucks. They had an 815 helping as he compacted. A lot of things in this industry would be easier if people just communicated. Thanks for watching.
Sorry for not responding to you quicker. As I've said in a couple other comments here, I try not to be too judgmental on these jobsites. I personally agree and wouldn't handle the situation this way but, I have no idea what the foreman told the operator to do. He was dropping the trailers to clear out stuck material so it very well could've been the foreman's call to do it this way. Thanks for commenting!
God damn, I don't know what half of these words mean but I feel like I need to incorporate them into my vocabulary! This is one of my favorite comments I've ever received😂😂! Thanks for watching
The material used trucks were carrying was super sticky and he's trying to knock it out by dropping the trailer from a height. As many guys have stated here already, not the best technique to get the longest life out of your equipment...
Wow really your going to pickup my 250K + trailer and drop it! Hope you own these dozer man so your paying for the damage on trailer! If not Hope this was your last hour of operation!
I was shocked that this guy was able to do this without being corrected by a foreman....although knowing our industry it was probably the foreman that told him to do it...
That dozer op sucks ! What a chit hole. Push my trailer like that again and than drop it like that I’d drop him. Don’t get me started on some of them drivers. Wow !! That dozer op tho !! He’s be fired on the spot if he did that at my company !!
I 100% agree. I try not to criticized because I'm grateful these guys let me on these job sites to film but the whole time I was thinking how rough that was on the trucks and there had to be a better way.
Why not use side dump trailer or push out type trailer? If the material is sticky heated bodies should allow the material to be discharged. There is no logic to the way it is being done to hard on equipment.
Great questions that I don't have the answer to. I don't understand why they wouldnt be running a fleet of ADT's hauling 40 tons a round instead of this mess.
@@DieselandIron I agree with you a fleet of 35-40 ton ADT's would be a better choice especially if they are moving material on-site. All in all great footage keep up the good work!
Amen to that. I think it would have been far more efficient to get a fleet of off road trucks but at the same time I don't own the company and I didn't bid the job so I don't know the details of what went into prepping
Never viewed anything like that. In time, I imagine, stress cracks will begin to show on the trailers and perhaps tractors frame rails.
I would imagine those trucks and trailers will have all sorts of issues in a couple of years.
I have worked with trailers like these and this is interesting to watch. I have never seen a dozer pick the trailer up off the ground. We always pushed them. I can see that he might be knocking the dirt off the inside of the trailer, but I am not sure if it is good for the trailer. The dirt looks a bit damp to me. If they chained the gates at 3/4 open and they all went a bit faster, I am not sure how many would get stuck? You notice that the dozer operator did not bother to go back for some trucks, as though he knew who would get stuck and who would drive on through. I have never seen a truck hit the brakes while he was dumping. If these were the aluminum trailers, they would all be in the weld shop by 1pm. A very interesting video and very clear quality too. Thanks,
Thanks for watching brother!
I operated a 275 AX Komatsu bulldozer pushing up phosphate rock from these bottom dump trailers which the material did not stick. Some truck drivers could unload without getting stuck and only a few could not. My company said to pull the trucks out verses pushing on the trailer when one got stuck.
There's not anything wrong with pushing on the trailer. What's really destructive here is the fact that he's lifting the trailers up and dropping them from 4 feet in the air
some driver know how to dump and others don't .!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@davidnelson1134 yeah you definitely need a little speed before you open the gate, also set the gate to about 3/4
@@DieselandIron Agree is that bottom dump trailers have push blocks exactly for being pushed!! Agree with you as to not dropping the trailers. My experience is the wider the gate opening when dumping the more chance for these trucks to get stuck but if it's a short fill run then not a lot of choices.
Gotta go fast! The fast guys had no problems.
It's always a fine line between not getting stuck and breaking springs and suspension components!
STFU
Excellent Information. Enjoy Watching your video’s. Thank you Sir.
Thanks for watching Dave! I appreciate the support my man.
Why are the gates fully open? Put them at 3/4 or maybe less.
why have these dump-trucks being built, bought and why are they being used? 🤣
Man. That’s really hard on suspension parts when he drops it off the blade. Like that. Even unloaded it is wicked bad for the leaf springs.
Agree!! No reason to lift the trailer off the ground.
Maybe a better operator keeping the fill graded would help!!
no need to be so rough on the trucks when pushing them out !!!
I had the same thought when filming. The only thing I could come up with is the soil was a heavy clay mix that was sticking to the trucks and he was trying to knock it out. Not the approach I personally would have taken but hey, if the foreman stops by and tells you that is what you're going to do...
Lorenz doesn't care as long as they meet the quantities. They get the material moved but you get what you pay for in the long run and have alot work to do behind them go finishing up.
@@jimlund5022 I assume you are from the area and familiar with the company?
You can hear & see the trucks braking against the dozer blade, when they let the brakes go, the trucks fall off the blade. Not much the dozer can do to help them. I suppose The trucks could keep the brakes on until the dozer put them back down
Needs to backdrag when backing up
If that operator was doing that to my trucks he would be looking for work.
I don't know the situation. There's a decent chance he was told to do that by the super. I try not to judge when I'm out filming.
It is a coordinated effort to get the clay out of the trailer. The dozer would not be able to lift the trailer if the truckdriver was not holding the brakes
@@fredrikherbertsson3447 I don't disagree with you there. My bigger concern would be damage to the trailer suspension. It's only a matter of time before you get busted springs, air bags or an axle. Again, if my super told me that's what he wanted me to do then by all means, I'll bomb trucks all day. This wouldn't be MY chosen method to deal with the stuck clay.
@@DieselandIron Damage to trailer costs money, but time also costs money... ;-)
@@fredrikherbertsson3447 the great balance of life in construction!
I would guess they are knocking out dirt build up truck #2 jad a lot of firt drop out when it drpped
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That's exactly what they are doing. The problem is the way they are doing it is going to smoke those trailers which isn't worth it.
Good help is hard to find.
Amen to that!
É muita estrutura, par carregar tão pouca matéria prima
You lock up your differential then get on it good so you don't hang up. But it happens All the time! The loader or grader or dozer just come in behind and push you right off! This guy is lifting awful high! Dropping it hard like this has to be hard on the bags and other stuff!!
Oh yes the real drivers of dirt trucks , knows you ever ever use lower gears ⚙️ to pull out the of the pit , I learned from the understanding pit boss on the job site , he said use higher gears ⚙️ in he pit or don’t come back , lol and it worked I learned right on the job 3 or 4 ,5 gears works fine never ever stop , lol nice thanks BigAl California happy Easter everyone be blessed be safe be thankful, praise Jesus Christ grace amen.
Gettin 'er done...If only all the Cut people coordinated with all the fill people; construction would be so much easier...:)...That's a lot of site for one D8 to rough grade...
He was doing a good job keeping up with all the trucks. They had an 815 helping as he compacted. A lot of things in this industry would be easier if people just communicated. Thanks for watching.
@@DieselandIronAmen to communicating! :)
Good way to get yourself fired right there. Learn some finesse
Sorry for not responding to you quicker. As I've said in a couple other comments here, I try not to be too judgmental on these jobsites. I personally agree and wouldn't handle the situation this way but, I have no idea what the foreman told the operator to do. He was dropping the trailers to clear out stuck material so it very well could've been the foreman's call to do it this way. Thanks for commenting!
Truck drivers need to learn how to operate bottom dumps ..too slow
I would say the guy on the dozer is tad disgruntled about something , he is f@#$ing these drivers eyes out !
You can tell he was definitely over being there😂
dozer driver is reet twonk I would not let him near my wheelbarrow never mind best part of half million quids worth of top end dozer
God damn, I don't know what half of these words mean but I feel like I need to incorporate them into my vocabulary! This is one of my favorite comments I've ever received😂😂! Thanks for watching
Trying to figure why he picking trailer up instead of just pushing them out...
The material used trucks were carrying was super sticky and he's trying to knock it out by dropping the trailer from a height. As many guys have stated here already, not the best technique to get the longest life out of your equipment...
I bet this trucking company goes through a lot of axles and clutches.
I would imagine you are right. I'd hate to be a wrench for these guys
Wow really your going to pickup my 250K + trailer and drop it! Hope you own these dozer man so your paying for the damage on trailer! If not Hope this was your last hour of operation!
I was shocked that this guy was able to do this without being corrected by a foreman....although knowing our industry it was probably the foreman that told him to do it...
Those are company trucks. It’s obvious that drivers don’t care 🤷♀️
100% yes. If these were owner operators you would see some drivers come flying out of the cab....
Seems like a small load for a lot of truck.
Those belly dumps don't have a ton of capacity. You typically see them in states where they have pretty strict weight limits
That dozer op sucks ! What a chit hole. Push my trailer like that again and than drop it like that I’d drop him. Don’t get me started on some of them drivers. Wow !! That dozer op tho !! He’s be fired on the spot if he did that at my company !!
I like the video but that’s not a good dozer hand. Truck drivers need a lesson in belly dumping too.
I 100% agree. I try not to criticized because I'm grateful these guys let me on these job sites to film but the whole time I was thinking how rough that was on the trucks and there had to be a better way.
Why not use side dump trailer or push out type trailer? If the material is sticky heated bodies should allow the material to be discharged. There is no logic to the way it is being done to hard on equipment.
Great questions that I don't have the answer to. I don't understand why they wouldnt be running a fleet of ADT's hauling 40 tons a round instead of this mess.
@@DieselandIron I agree with you a fleet of 35-40 ton ADT's would be a better choice especially if they are moving material on-site. All in all great footage keep up the good work!
I think they used the trucks and trailers they owned or were able to rent.
Ya…that’s not gentle . WTH
That's what she said while getting plowed from the back
They say use the tools you got, but i think using this particular trailer for this Job isn't the best
Amen to that. I think it would have been far more efficient to get a fleet of off road trucks but at the same time I don't own the company and I didn't bid the job so I don't know the details of what went into prepping
what a stupid dump truck! 😆 that is not chinese engineering and they wouldn't copy it either 😁