Hi Hateless, I'd like to share an Enyo fit for this mission. In my idea, this fit is cheap and easy to use. Use mwd for approaching and ab for orbit. Orbit at ~1200 to 1500 meters. Do not forget to use the drone. [Enyo, Talos] Assault Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Small I-a Enduring Armor Repairer 1MN Afterburner II 5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II [Empty High slot] Light Neutron Blaster II Light Neutron Blaster II Small Capacitor Control Circuit II Small Ancillary Current Router I Warrior II x1 Void S x19228 I really like your videos. Both the eve online ones and mental ones. Please keep on providing good content! Cheers, cc
Thanks for keeping these updated! This series is pretty much what pointed me toward Level 4 missions, and I'm having fun applying your guides in game. Polishing the last few Garmur skills now, the bases are next!
Hi, I was the one who submitted this theory to you, nice job on the fit, love the large shield booster. I'd just switch the conflagration ammo with true sanshas multifreq to get a better turret tracking (and damage application), because even with lower speed a lot of shots are missed with conflagrations.
Hey man cheers for video i actually manage too do this mission with a phantasm, i just wished i'd seen your older videos on this types of mission sometime last year.....i'd just unlocked level 4's and was unaware of special missions partly due too my decent but lazy reading skills, lost harbinger that was about the cost the that phantasm.......dam my lazyness for not doing the research, also i can find that Sec mission in EvE can swing wildly depending on skills and fits and your own knowledge. really solid advise ma man speed tanking was the way to go with that one and good shout out about signature Radius, i've been playing EvE online on and off since 2014, but its always nice to have a reminder, Sig radius was not something i consider last time with the harbinger "facepalm of shame"....also this time round i did dry test run in a Algos destroyer with MWD and i tried to increase it sig radius to that of phantasm, one i figured out roughly how much transversal velocity i would need to offset there tracking then i brought in the Phantasm. i lack the tech II heavy pulse lasers so i went for meta module just below t2, i had use standard X ray ammo.....was struggling too get though there tank with that ammo, also was using the manual pilot technique i saw you use and other pilots in past videos.....its not something i'am well practised so i slipped out off fallout range a few times. i warped off the mission after not really getting though the Talos's tank, i switched to using fed navy multifreq ammo and swapped drones from tech 1 too integrated drones and with practice i got a lot better at manual piloting which i've always used but not too orbit something...i was using my tactical overlay and clicking on the other Talos's regularly too show the direction they where burning at....then i tried to adjust my orbit angle to offset and i was doing just fine my cap was at 2/3rd most the time was not get hit often thanks too ur advise.
I complete this mission with this Deimos, directly inspired by your Phantasm but since i can't fly a Phantasm ^^ [Deimos, Bse] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II 10MN Afterburner II Thermal Shield Hardener II Kinetic Shield Hardener II Large Shield Booster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II Hammerhead I x5 Void M x3190 Agency 'Hardshell' TB7 Dose III x1 Strong Blue Pill Booster x1 booster are only in case of emergency, manual orbiting at 3000m is tricky but feasable and most of all imo the fit is cheap and not worth ganking ^^
Sup! Thanks for the GREAT video. I switched some of the t2 to some faction modules (like the heatsinks to imperial ones), you can fit a small tractor beam t2 to pull the wrecks and loot, while approaching the next talos
Thanks for these guides! I went by this guide and couldn't break the tank on the first Talos. My main character doing this has near perfect gunnery skills and energy weapons at 5. The Phantasm is a mastery 4. IDK what I'm missing but I tried twice and had to leave after 25+ minutes. At least I didn't lose a ship... and I can do the other Anomics... but this one is kicking my ass. :)
Range and transversal are something you need to understand it's important to lower transversal with your target while keeping it up to the other two also while staying in take it to the test server and work on one thing at a time also rewatch the video and see how I pilot my ship through it. I do all manual piloting to fly in a pattern that works for me
I am not new to manual piloting in EvE but I do agree I need more practise at this particular thing. I found I would get 2-4 good hits in then it would miss a lot. My problem is loss of tracking for sure. In my manual course changes the target ends up passing by too quick making the transversal too high. I tried different techniques. Again, I probably just need more practise. My instinct is to want to web the shit out of the Talos then beat the hell out of it but that won't work as the others will eat my lunch. :D
Hey, just so you know. you can speed tank this entire mission. I just did it in an untanked stealth bomber (MWD hound). if yo make a hexagon or more turns you'll never be hit. those hard turns are what kill you. Tractor will help with the loot. Nurgal can do it too.
Since my reply is nowhere to be found, I will make a much shorter new text: I made the calculations with that fitting, but all I can get is 49 dps considering the targets average 63.4 resistances (EM/thermal) and maxed skills. I do not understand, how that can overcome the 75 HP/s armor repair the things have. What is it I am not considering? I thought the values would always represent the average in info screen.
Phantasm with Meta 4 guns and faction Gamma was doing 400 dps for me. Looks like Hate is right, you sure your guns were loaded? Sounds like your 49 dps is coming from the Hobgoblin I's.
Just bought and fit this with a slight change.. Have you noticed that the Domination thermal and kinetic hardeners have the same resists as the t2 variant but better activation costs, better cycle times, better cpu reqs and are CHEAPER.... i would use over t2 all the time as why wouldnt you unless im missing something? Edit... Thx for the fit and guide
So I figured out that it is easily possible to do this anomic mission with the same nergal fit in the continuation of agent and team burner, so like that you don't need to buy another ship and fit and so cost you minimal isk. Here the fit : [Nergal, Talos burner] Centii A-Type Small Armor Repairer Entropic Radiation Sink II Assault Damage Control II Entropic Radiation Sink II 1MN Afterburner II Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery 5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Veles Light Entropic Disintegrator, Occult S [Empty High slot] Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II Small Capacitor Control Circuit II Warrior I x5 So what you basically need to do is when you arrive on grid, double click in space to approach the left or right Talos and activate MWD but never direct approach him. Don't awaken any sentries because it can be a pain in the ass. when you are about 20 km of the first talos, orbit at 2500m and activate AB. Start shooting with occult and deploy drones, the three talos will change aggro on them. Normally you should never be hit. When Talos is destroy, don't approach the wreck but double click in space, you might activate your assault damage control if you need to make a sharp angle. Rinse and repeat for the next two and approach (not directly) the next one with MWD. The last one can be dragged in the sentries field, but at this point, awaken one sentry is not a problem. Don't forget that youre not warp scramble anymore when drones have taken aggro. Call back your drones after a talos has been destroyed because their velocity will decrease and can be one shot by another talos.
IS it possible to finish them off with high meta T1 + faction multifrequency? DPS drops from 660 to 460. I cant actually fly Phantasm very well but cant use T2 lasers yet.
Should be possible if you are comfortable with the manual piloting. They repair fairly slowly so if you can actually apply 460 dps they should go down.
Yes you can. I did it with Meta 4 and Imperial Navy Gamma. I used Hobgoblin II's as well. Just do what he does, and it's super easy. Manually orbitting isn't all that hard.
sure I do it in this deimos : [Deimos, Burner: Talos Cheap Deimos] Corpus X-Type Kinetic Armor Hardener Medium Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Medium Armor Repairer II Centus X-Type Thermal Armor Hardener Reactor Control Unit II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery 100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Ancillary Current Router II Acolyte I x1 Hobgoblin I x2 Hornet I x4 Warrior I x1 Null M x970 Void M x1055 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x500 Agency 'Hardshell' TB3 Dose I x1 I use an Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Systems Operation EO-605 and have all capacitor related skills to 5 though. If you need it faster or less capacitor intensive add a little bling to it. It runs cap stable with both reppers online for about 390M ISK currently. The drones are just random and the Hardshell just in case I completely screw up. You can basically fly it like hateless did in his deimos video. Just don't try to orbit a talos with activated afterburner. If you want it even cheaper do it in an Enyo. You'll fly much faster but it takes a little longer to kill the talos.
thumbs up bro, just did it for my first time with that fit, just changed to ion blasters t2 because i don't have some skills so no pwgrid (lost 25dps) changed the t2 extenders for rep fleet extenders too... 60m fit!
If a tower gets activated, will it reset after some time out of the site or how do I cope with it if it stays online, cause the EM resistens is realy bad in that ship
I dont think they reset. If you activate more than you can tank the mission is essentially bricked. Your best bet might be the daily downtime the mission should reset at that point.
I'm gonna try in a Merlin with Ab+disruptors, wish me luck... if you are curious I just put up the vid... I wish I had your manual piloting tranquillity...
Just did this in a 30mil enyo got hit 4 times and never went under 80% armor. pilot the way hateless tells you and then orbit at optimal. tried in a sub 1mil incursuses but couldt break the tank on them
Came back after a long break and just lost my 500m gamrur in this after killing the first instant death to the second…. Wish I would have seen this first
same as before, the blueprints require the new manufacturing components which make all the faction stuff expensive to produce, but market prices for the astero is good again, for stratios buy the ship directly instead of blueprints, same goes for nestor
RIP Hateless. Just completed this mission on first try. Thank you!
Hi Hateless,
I'd like to share an Enyo fit for this mission.
In my idea, this fit is cheap and easy to use.
Use mwd for approaching and ab for orbit. Orbit at ~1200 to 1500 meters. Do not forget to use the drone.
[Enyo, Talos]
Assault Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Small I-a Enduring Armor Repairer
1MN Afterburner II
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
[Empty High slot]
Light Neutron Blaster II
Light Neutron Blaster II
Small Capacitor Control Circuit II
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Warrior II x1
Void S x19228
I really like your videos. Both the eve online ones and mental ones. Please keep on providing good content!
Cheers,
cc
Yup this works with any frigate fit like this
thanks for your comment, pulled this with a vengeance with a similar fit, barely had to use repair or the damage control
Thanks for keeping these updated! This series is pretty much what pointed me toward Level 4 missions, and I'm having fun applying your guides in game. Polishing the last few Garmur skills now, the bases are next!
Hi, I was the one who submitted this theory to you, nice job on the fit, love the large shield booster.
I'd just switch the conflagration ammo with true sanshas multifreq to get a better turret tracking (and damage application), because even with lower speed a lot of shots are missed with conflagrations.
I've heard that this mission is pretty hard. I did it on my first try with this Phantasm fit, I hardly took any damage.
Great guide.
This is great, thanks a lot for all your hard work
Hey man cheers for video i actually manage too do this mission with a phantasm, i just wished i'd seen your older videos on this types of mission sometime last year.....i'd just unlocked level 4's and was unaware of special missions partly due too my decent but lazy reading skills, lost harbinger that was about the cost the that phantasm.......dam my lazyness for not doing the research, also i can find that Sec mission in EvE can swing wildly depending on skills and fits and your own knowledge.
really solid advise ma man speed tanking was the way to go with that one and good shout out about signature Radius, i've been playing EvE online on and off since 2014, but its always nice to have a reminder, Sig radius was not something i consider last time with the harbinger "facepalm of shame"....also this time round i did dry test run in a Algos destroyer with MWD and i tried to increase it sig radius to that of phantasm, one i figured out roughly how much transversal velocity i would need to offset there tracking then i brought in the Phantasm.
i lack the tech II heavy pulse lasers so i went for meta module just below t2, i had use standard X ray ammo.....was struggling too get though there tank with that ammo, also was using the manual pilot technique i saw you use and other pilots in past videos.....its not something i'am well practised so i slipped out off fallout range a few times.
i warped off the mission after not really getting though the Talos's tank, i switched to using fed navy multifreq ammo and swapped drones from tech 1 too integrated drones and with practice i got a lot better at manual piloting which i've always used but not too orbit something...i was using my tactical overlay and clicking on the other Talos's regularly too show the direction they where burning at....then i tried to adjust my orbit angle to offset and i was doing just fine my cap was at 2/3rd most the time was not get hit often thanks too ur advise.
I complete this mission with this Deimos, directly inspired by your Phantasm but since i can't fly a Phantasm ^^
[Deimos, Bse]
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
10MN Afterburner II
Thermal Shield Hardener II
Kinetic Shield Hardener II
Large Shield Booster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Hammerhead I x5
Void M x3190
Agency 'Hardshell' TB7 Dose III x1
Strong Blue Pill Booster x1
booster are only in case of emergency, manual orbiting at 3000m is tricky but feasable and most of all imo the fit is cheap and not worth ganking ^^
Sup! Thanks for the GREAT video. I switched some of the t2 to some faction modules (like the heatsinks to imperial ones), you can fit a small tractor beam t2 to pull the wrecks and loot, while approaching the next talos
The Talos enemies sometimes flies into the sentry grid. You can manually navigate to them, but it's a bit of a pain.
Thanks, wish i had seen this before i went into that field,.keep up the good work o/.
Thanks for these guides!
I went by this guide and couldn't break the tank on the first Talos. My main character doing this has near perfect gunnery skills and energy weapons at 5. The Phantasm is a mastery 4. IDK what I'm missing but I tried twice and had to leave after 25+ minutes.
At least I didn't lose a ship... and I can do the other Anomics... but this one is kicking my ass. :)
Range and transversal are something you need to understand it's important to lower transversal with your target while keeping it up to the other two also while staying in take it to the test server and work on one thing at a time also rewatch the video and see how I pilot my ship through it. I do all manual piloting to fly in a pattern that works for me
I am not new to manual piloting in EvE but I do agree I need more practise at this particular thing. I found I would get 2-4 good hits in then it would miss a lot. My problem is loss of tracking for sure. In my manual course changes the target ends up passing by too quick making the transversal too high. I tried different techniques.
Again, I probably just need more practise.
My instinct is to want to web the shit out of the Talos then beat the hell out of it but that won't work as the others will eat my lunch. :D
@@circuitjc yea burners are weird like that each one represents a different mechanic and forces you to learn that mechanic to beat them
Hey, just so you know. you can speed tank this entire mission. I just did it in an untanked stealth bomber (MWD hound). if yo make a hexagon or more turns you'll never be hit. those hard turns are what kill you. Tractor will help with the loot. Nurgal can do it too.
Welcome back!
Do you think a Gila could do this, using almost your exact fit, but light missiles and DDA's in the lows?
Since my reply is nowhere to be found, I will make a much shorter new text:
I made the calculations with that fitting, but all I can get is 49 dps considering the targets average 63.4 resistances (EM/thermal) and maxed skills.
I do not understand, how that can overcome the 75 HP/s armor repair the things have.
What is it I am not considering? I thought the values would always represent the average in info screen.
you seem to not be loading ammo ??? because this phantasm deals 500-600 dps
Phantasm with Meta 4 guns and faction Gamma was doing 400 dps for me. Looks like Hate is right, you sure your guns were loaded? Sounds like your 49 dps is coming from the Hobgoblin I's.
maybe i should wait until youtube can spare a few more pixels.
your watching the premier it has less pixels in about in hour it should be good
Just bought and fit this with a slight change..
Have you noticed that the Domination thermal and kinetic hardeners have the same resists as the t2 variant but better activation costs, better cycle times, better cpu reqs and are CHEAPER.... i would use over t2 all the time as why wouldnt you unless im missing something?
Edit... Thx for the fit and guide
ive tried with a t1 bc, 38k ehp, got burned down in 30seconds from taloses...
So I figured out that it is easily possible to do this anomic mission with the same nergal fit in the continuation of agent and team burner, so like that you don't need to buy another ship and fit and so cost you minimal isk. Here the fit :
[Nergal, Talos burner]
Centii A-Type Small Armor Repairer
Entropic Radiation Sink II
Assault Damage Control II
Entropic Radiation Sink II
1MN Afterburner II
Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Veles Light Entropic Disintegrator, Occult S
[Empty High slot]
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Small Capacitor Control Circuit II
Warrior I x5
So what you basically need to do is when you arrive on grid, double click in space to approach the left or right Talos and activate MWD but never direct approach him. Don't awaken any sentries because it can be a pain in the ass. when you are about 20 km of the first talos, orbit at 2500m and activate AB. Start shooting with occult and deploy drones, the three talos will change aggro on them. Normally you should never be hit. When Talos is destroy, don't approach the wreck but double click in space, you might activate your assault damage control if you need to make a sharp angle. Rinse and repeat for the next two and approach (not directly) the next one with MWD. The last one can be dragged in the sentries field, but at this point, awaken one sentry is not a problem. Don't forget that youre not warp scramble anymore when drones have taken aggro. Call back your drones after a talos has been destroyed because their velocity will decrease and can be one shot by another talos.
1080P now.
Thanks a lot man!
IS it possible to finish them off with high meta T1 + faction multifrequency? DPS drops from 660 to 460.
I cant actually fly Phantasm very well but cant use T2 lasers yet.
Should be possible if you are comfortable with the manual piloting. They repair fairly slowly so if you can actually apply 460 dps they should go down.
Yes you can. I did it with Meta 4 and Imperial Navy Gamma. I used Hobgoblin II's as well. Just do what he does, and it's super easy. Manually orbitting isn't all that hard.
Is a deimos not allowed in? I would think one of those could tank it.
sure I do it in this deimos : [Deimos, Burner: Talos Cheap Deimos]
Corpus X-Type Kinetic Armor Hardener
Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Centus X-Type Thermal Armor Hardener
Reactor Control Unit II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Acolyte I x1
Hobgoblin I x2
Hornet I x4
Warrior I x1
Null M x970
Void M x1055
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x500
Agency 'Hardshell' TB3 Dose I x1
I use an Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Systems Operation EO-605 and have all capacitor related skills to 5 though. If you need it faster or less capacitor intensive add a little bling to it. It runs cap stable with both reppers online for about 390M ISK currently. The drones are just random and the Hardshell just in case I completely screw up. You can basically fly it like hateless did in his deimos video. Just don't try to orbit a talos with activated afterburner. If you want it even cheaper do it in an Enyo. You'll fly much faster but it takes a little longer to kill the talos.
Im still using 60mil Harpy for this mission. Its cheap, easy, fast. Never died...
+1 for Harpy
What is your harpy fit?
@@chadmoody8254 Its the old fit I found on youtube. Still working: th-cam.com/video/4uG67GoJc9w/w-d-xo.html
@@doncarlos4941 must say that harpy fit looks cool. Real cheap and fast with both props.
thumbs up bro, just did it for my first time with that fit, just changed to ion blasters t2 because i don't have some skills so no pwgrid (lost 25dps)
changed the t2 extenders for rep fleet extenders too... 60m fit!
If a tower gets activated, will it reset after some time out of the site or how do I cope with it if it stays online, cause the EM resistens is realy bad in that ship
I dont think they reset. If you activate more than you can tank the mission is essentially bricked. Your best bet might be the daily downtime the mission should reset at that point.
I'm gonna try in a Merlin with Ab+disruptors, wish me luck... if you are curious I just put up the vid... I wish I had your manual piloting tranquillity...
Are you saying the Deimos fit is no longer valid?
It works but it's a ton harder to pull off then it was before
Thanks bro
Just did this in a 30mil enyo got hit 4 times and never went under 80% armor. pilot the way hateless tells you and then orbit at optimal. tried in a sub 1mil incursuses but couldt break the tank on them
yea the enyo is cool but it take awhile to kill the npcs
Came back after a long break and just lost my 500m gamrur in this after killing the first instant death to the second…. Wish I would have seen this first
what sort of implants does he have?
Think a Zealot could do it?
i kinda went in with a pimp ship i lost 2 bill lol
2 hours in and still 360p
I blame youtube I uploaded a 1080p video
Can anyone explain me what happened with Astero and Stratios blueprints? How to farm SoE now?
same as before, the blueprints require the new manufacturing components which make all the faction stuff expensive to produce, but market prices for the astero is good again, for stratios buy the ship directly instead of blueprints, same goes for nestor
One additional tip would be to OH the guns on the first Talos to get the kill a little quicker.
I do this in a 45mil Enyo..