I think that bringing Courtney to the channel is such a refreshing thing. Its great to have perspectives from two people are are very apart in terms of the audiophile world and can help represent more types audiences on your channel. Stellar job, Joshua.
@@dtz1000 I think that Joshua has always been honest. Honesty is relative. When someone else's honesty isn't the same as your honesty, you perceive it as "wrong" or "dishonest". What's the most important for product reviews is how many perspectives you can get on something as well as being transparent about the objective things like measurements.
Josh, when you do your comparison video, please include & compare the Hifiman HE 1000 v2. The HE1000 V2 is widely owned and highly regarded. And it makes for a very good comparison since the V2 can now be bought for a similar price as the Arya Organic.
Would be nice to hear reviews of this headphone vs the ZMF Auteur Classic. Could be 2 standouts in this price range for "organic sound". This sounds like a real winner of a headphone though. Of course this is only one review I've seen so far, gotta see what others think. But exciting stuff.
I bought the Organic’s and paired it with a Chord Hugo TT2. Break-in was brutal, 200hrs. Thought they or the TT2 were broken. Thankfully not. Bass punches you in the chest, Mids are neutral, the treble was airy with space and placement of individual instruments in the sound field. I keep hearing people experiencing these as bright with sibilance. To my ears, non off this was an issue through the TT2; so be careful what you mate with it. Loving these. I had never used headphones before, until now, and I was determined to do it properly so I won’t be chasing that carrot, and throwing away money in my retirement. Loving these.
Coming from an LCD X I enjoyed the Arya stealth, but found it a little lacking in the bass department. I'm also a bass head. So I would really love to try these one day!
Waiting for my pair to arrive! Tried them in person in my city and they sounded incredible I actually went to try the clear MG thinking from reviews that they would be what I like, but after trying them they felt a bit claustrophobic and less natural sounding to me compared to the organic (but still great in their own way). Just goes to show trying headphones before buying is always the way to go.
Something to consider is the HE1000 Stealth is currently only $100 more than the Arya Organic. Compared to the Arya, the HE1000 Stealth has better build quality and an extra year of warranty. Joshua - I would be curious to hear your opinion on the difference in sound between the two. From what I gather after doing research, the Stealth version of the HE1000 might be tuned similarly to Organic, while being a bit technically superior.
Would love to see a comparison between this and the Edition XS. I just got Edition XS a month ago and love it after a few mods to make them all day comfortable. Added HD6XX head cushion with velcro straps, got velour pads for them and bent the yolks inward. Been hard to imagine that there is much out there better than this for the price. Doubt that I'll want something in 1k unless is offers a lot more than the XS
As an Arya Stealth owner, I tried this Organic Arya at CanJam. My first impression was that the sound signature of this pair was the same, or at least very similar to my Arya Stealth, then I didn't spend more time listening to it (because I wanted to listen to other headphones). I am not sure if these hype trains are trustworthy, but if the sound signature difference from Arya Stealth is small, and the Organic comes at the same price as HE1000 at discount, why not (1) get HE1000, or (2) at Arya Stealth at a cheaper price and apply a bit of EQ to the Stealth.
@@coardtech HE1000 Stealth has a sensitivity of 93dB, Arya Organic is 94dB... negligible difference. Subjectively, I had the Arya Stealth and the HE1000 Stealth at the same time and they were very similar, if anything the HE1000 Stealth was a bit easier to drive. The non-Stealth HE1000 V2 is a bit harder to drive at 90dB but they significantly reduced that with the Stealth version, it's drivable off portable gear.
Excellent review Josh! Eagerly been anticipating this like everyone else. I think i have found my endgame cinephile headphone. First i started with the Sundara, then the edition xs to the focal radiance. The Arya Organic seems to tick all the boxes. Soundstage tick, dynamics tick, bass & punch tick, detail tick, midrange tick, scale tick. If this is not a great movie headphone then i don't know what is.
A great Movie Headphone? He1000 V2 Stealth really is! At the moment nearly for the same price. Summer Sale! Instead of 3000 Bucks earlier. Maybe the best solution. Big soundstages and great definition.
i changed the pads on my hd 800s and did a little EQ, now they feel like the best thing ever for movies/games with an unmatched soundstange+precision and good dynamics, you can bring out quite some bass (eq) without distording the sound (they are not bass focused tho obv.)
So I jumped the gun and purchased the Arya Organic. While I truly LOVE the soundstage and tuning, what kills it for me is the treble.. just way too much energy there which pierces my ears on certain frequencies. Maybe those of you like Josh Valour(I guess) that are OK with this level of treble energy which does gives it a nice airy sound but makes your ears bleed, then please by all means go ahead and purchase these but I am selling these off as I just can't keep listening after 15 mins of continuous play.. it's just too much for me but maybe not for you. Just be warned if your treble sensitive.. that's all I can say.
Thanks again to Courtney for her time and honest, new to audio experience as sometimes, I feel being heavily invested in a hobby, this case audio gear, makes you unappreciative of a fresh set of ears perspective. I’m personally not heavily invested into audio gear …. But the few headphones I have and couple amp/dacs as well I’m very happy with and give me plenty of audio enjoyment in both my gaming and my music listening 🤩🥳👍🤤
Joshua, thank you for your review of the Arya Organic. I've decided to go ahead and pull the trigger on the order for a new pair and am awaiting patiently for them to arrive. Pairing with a D70 Pro / A70 Pro and an Apos set of XLR / Headphone Cables. Additionally, HiFiMan is currently selling the Arya Organic direct from their website for $1149 ($150 off retail) including shipping!
I wanted my next pair of headphones to be a Focal Clear MG but now I'm thinking the Arya Organic could be it. I have a Sundara with an Asgard 3 and Bifrost 2/64 and really love heavy bass. I love how the Sundara sounds, but eventually I'd love to get something higher-end
Focal is meh ...... I have tried my Quad Era-1 side by side Clear MG, and my Eras have better detail separation, better tonality, they do not sound so closed in etc... for almost half the price... Then some time later i tried new Utopias and meh again... so Focal is definitely overpriced...idk.
Just a quick comment about measuring equipment. Different TH-camrs do different things, have different styles. If you look at well reputed camera gear review channels, you'll see it's not unusual for them to bring up a particularly technical aspect of a product and then say "But Gerald Undone has covered that" or "will cover that". And this is fine. Those of us who watch have the luxury of being able to hear multiple opinions on a new product, and I am pretty sure most of us choose to do exactly that. You have your voice, your style, your method - and it works brilliantly. Don't worry about measuring gear (unless you're very interested in it) because from an audience point of view, your analysis is why we watch your videos. Keep on keeping on :)
Please review the new HE1000 Stealth. I would love to hear your take on how it compares with the Arya Organic. Is it worth $100 more then the Arya Organic?
that a wooting cable i see? 👀 i love how theres such a contrast in the clearness and confidence in speech there is between the both of u. i know what shes talking about, im only on my new sennheiser ie300 iems, but regardless, theyve shown me sounds and bass ive never heard before. ig especially since theyre noise isolating. the bass is soo nice and punchy tho i love it
Sound spectacular and enjoyable in a way that makes the Clear and others sound synthetic. Even with the Questyle M15 they are super (balanced with MoonDrop Line W cables) but of course better on the Holo Bliss. First time I have really enjoyed headphones in decades.
Got my Organic's yesterday, and I'm comparing them to the Stealth's. Yes, gigantic soundstage and great imaging on the Organics, but I am somewhat treble sensitive and the Organic's are decidedly brighter than the Stealth. I'll give the Organic's time to burn in but I may end up returning them if they don't smooth out,. or aI may try EQ...
@@StevenFolberg-yw1oc I am curious if you ended up returning or what your final decision is. I am coming from an HD6XX and Sundara. I love them both and am looking to upgrade. Is the Organic worth the extra money over the stealth, which is now $900?
Not for mixing. Dangerously lacking mid-frequencies. Unless you use the Sonarworks SoundID Reference correction software that makes it sound much more linear.
Good news from that relatively slowly moving HP industry. And always nice when these rare female audiophiles or aspirants make their judgement, too. What truely goes on in an not-so-into HiFi woman's mind when listening to different kind of audio gear however will always remain kinda mystery to me (still after questioning and trying to figure out).
You said in the arya stealth review that you didn't like it after v2, now you say it's a great headphone for organic, which has similar sound characteristics to stealth, you are really a great reviewer 😂
Yes if that's true it's a good example that people should go back and listen to their old reviews. So if they have different thoughts they can at least say their opinion has changed over time. Or they might remind themselves of things they forgot about. When you just change the story it doesn't make any sense and it looks like bad organization.
It's definitely not as bright as the 1990s, and I prefer the sound of the Organics as well. Bass is tight with very low extention, and you can get as much out of it as you'd want with eq.
Got mine yesterday and compared with HE1000v2 Stealth. If anything, it makes me appreciate the HE1000V2 Stealth even more. It's HiFiMAN's best headphone for the $, and not too far off the Susvara in raw fidelity. It's better than HE1000se as well. I've even been able to let go of my HE6 6 Screw since its arrival. Organic is good - HEK Stealth is even better!
Please compare these againat the HE1000 Stealth (i.e. v3) in a future video. Looka like lots of people are tossing up between the two kf yhem but so far noone has made a side by side comparison yet. I'd also love to see you compare the Arya Organic to the Edition XS. I love my pair!
Man i have been wanting the Aryas for a while now. And i really want these. It's too bad after my experience with several sundaras that i really can't trust their products anymore. Especially at this price point.
Depends what you want. I heard both for several hours and bought the organic. Better bass, more closed in bit less resolution. If you like instrumental music I would go with the V2. Electronic, bass heavier music and Hip Hop go with the organic
@@ilovecoldplayyyy got this. Had a he1000v2 and i’d take those over arya stealth. If the price diff is around 100-200 usd would you still get the arya?
@@Ray-dl5mp Rock, Heavy metal maybe go for the V2. Soundstage is bit bigger, separation a little better, tembre a little clearer. Pop I would go with the organic. I prefer the mid presentation, not so far away. The V2 is like a huge room, the Organic is a much closer, warmer. There is much more going on. Got the feeling that you can get lost with the V2, especially with some sort of music. If you use to play Video Games, for example PS5 controller, just go with the organic. It gets much louder
I have loved the Arya Stealth since it first came out, and it's cool to see HiFiMAN continuing to improve on their greatest hits. I don't think it's worth it for me to upgrade (I'd be curious on your thoughts about this Josh), but I'd like to get a chance to hear the Organic at some point.
My Arya V2 broke (audio only played out of one channel) out of warranty (since Hifiman only offers a measly 1 yr warranty on 1000$+ products) and they offered to upgrade me to the organic for 500$ + trade in of my broken Arya. You should consider upgrading with trade in if you're still in warranty.
I was forced to sell my Arya Stealths during inflation, and I miss them very much. At times I missed some bass impact in them though, and I think the Organic will be the perfect replacement. :)
If you get past the looks of the Organic, I would go with the He1000 Stealth, for 1,100 to 1300 now around the net. The He1000 Stealth is a steal with more resolution. Looks like Joshy should have better rehearsed the script with the female if you were going to tell her what to say . I am not buying her...
I do consider this headphone as a brighter and lighter alternative to my ZMF Atrium, because I am missing some treble energy. Tried briefly Arya Stealth before during audio show and really liked it. But for now my "money to burn" pot needs to heal up a bit first :')
What library of songs are you demoing in order to make the conclusions that you are making about these headphones? Does it sample each genre? And is she able to listen to music she normally listens too as part of the sound demo? Also love her description of what she’s hearing when listening to the music ❤🙏🏼
Really enjoy your videos. Would you be able to do a video on best headphone recommendation for each genre - classical music, vocal/acapella, rock, pop etc?
I still have my Arya V2's eq'd, but all of this hype for the Organic is making me want to pull the trigger. The V2's have been perfect for me - I wouldn't change a thing. But if it's somehow possible to still have the V2 experience, but BETTER with the Organics? I'll take it. I was going to go Focal Utopia next, but I'm an Arya simp, so the Organics will come first.
Literally came here to ask this exact same question lol. Does Josh not have a Patreon or Discord? He's never mentioned anything about it since 2020 so I'm guessing not.
I’ve heard both and I prefer the LCD X 2021’s presentation a tad more. I think the Aryas might measure and be technically better but yeah the lcd X for me is a better listen especially for chilling out.
@@towsifshahriarshovo I would say check out the “Resolve eq” as I particularly use that, or you can browse around for other eq options. I’m sure after some eq profiles, you’ll start to figure out trends that you can adjust to your taste.
@@towsifshahriarshovoarya’s are bright and lacking in bass. Lcd-x is relaxed and has really good slam but lacks space. Don’t buy before you try applies for both models
These had just turned up when I demo’d a fair few headphones in this price range. I actually liked the stealth a little more than these! Maybe so new to the shop the demo model wasn’t burnt in or something.
Great review 👍 Will tubes ..cut back some of the brightness?? Btw, looking to get a better amp for my Sen’s 650’s ..they scale wonderfully..and who knows one day I may look at these . Great video 👍🍕☕️🔥🥓
If you want more punch with the stealth's just swap the stock pads for Dekoni Elite velour's. The general consensus is that the stealth sounds more natural with better soundstage.
SO if i were using this for immersive RPG gaming (lots of music and immersive environmental effects with large stage helpful)...pick this over the arya stealth?
What are main differences/similarities between Organic ($1299) and HEk Stealth ($1399)?? I traded in my Arya Stealth to Hifiman and wasn't sure if I wanted to try the HEk Stealth or the Organic. I went with the HEk Stealth mostly based on the know great reviews and the more metal build. I would think a lot of folks are trying to choose between these two as they are so close in price, they both have the wood veneer and similar style, and they have such similar technology now. Please share thoughts. Thanks!
@@jorisconte9180 hell yeah man! Something about pairing a solid state amp with a electrostatic amp. Wouldn’t know how it would pair together but does an amazing job.
Josh, I don’t give two sh!ts about whether you can do measurements. You’re still the best TH-cam headphone reviewer out there. Love my HEX2 but if these will run off my Dragonfly Cobalt then I’m definitely going to upgrade.
I'm really interested in these headphones. I saw another reviewer mention the Organic prefers R2R DACs, is this what you meant when you said "... doesn't mean it's not amplifier picky at all"?
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I think that bringing Courtney to the channel is such a refreshing thing. Its great to have perspectives from two people are are very apart in terms of the audiophile world and can help represent more types audiences on your channel. Stellar job, Joshua.
At least we get more honesty now.
@@dtz1000 I think that Joshua has always been honest. Honesty is relative. When someone else's honesty isn't the same as your honesty, you perceive it as "wrong" or "dishonest". What's the most important for product reviews is how many perspectives you can get on something as well as being transparent about the objective things like measurements.
Josh, when you do your comparison video, please include & compare the Hifiman HE 1000 v2. The HE1000 V2 is widely owned and highly regarded. And it makes for a very good comparison since the V2 can now be bought for a similar price as the Arya Organic.
Agree
Getting this sound at 16 ohms is a breakthrough in planar magnetic driver tech.
The verum one is only 8 ohms and sounds amazing at a quarter of the price.
LCD-X has the same impedance and it's from 2013.
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 LCD-X is 20ohms iirc
Does it scale as well though as higher ohm headphones?
Impedance has no effect on frequency response.
A vs between the HE1000 Stealth would also be interesting since they're almost at the same price point...
I'm strongly considering upgrading my headphones and am looking at the Arya as a potential option. This was a very well timed video!
will get replaced next year with the organic S model
You don't need measuring rigs IMO. I watch your stuff because of your concise brutal honesty and next level camera work. Excellent as usual.
AND the audio quality. Don't forget the audio quality 😅.
Honesty won't help if he's wrong. His fav is Diana...
I hope you include the recently discounted he1000 stealth in the next video to compare.
I briefly compared them over on Head-Fi a couple hours ago. Organic may need some burn in still
@@dleblanc343you preferred the HE Stealth?
@@Soundoverload i did
Burn in doesn't exist. Learning to enjoy the sound character is really what's happening.
"head burn-in"; anyway per reviews HE1000SE is even better.
Would be nice to hear reviews of this headphone vs the ZMF Auteur Classic. Could be 2 standouts in this price range for "organic sound". This sounds like a real winner of a headphone though. Of course this is only one review I've seen so far, gotta see what others think. But exciting stuff.
I bought the Organic’s and paired it with a Chord Hugo TT2. Break-in was brutal, 200hrs. Thought they or the TT2 were broken. Thankfully not. Bass punches you in the chest, Mids are neutral, the treble was airy with space and placement of individual instruments in the sound field. I keep hearing people experiencing these as bright with sibilance. To my ears, non off this was an issue through the TT2; so be careful what you mate with it. Loving these. I had never used headphones before, until now, and I was determined to do it properly so I won’t be chasing that carrot, and throwing away money in my retirement. Loving these.
Coming from an LCD X I enjoyed the Arya stealth, but found it a little lacking in the bass department. I'm also a bass head. So I would really love to try these one day!
Waiting for my pair to arrive! Tried them in person in my city and they sounded incredible
I actually went to try the clear MG thinking from reviews that they would be what I like, but after trying them they felt a bit claustrophobic and less natural sounding to me compared to the organic (but still great in their own way). Just goes to show trying headphones before buying is always the way to go.
Something to consider is the HE1000 Stealth is currently only $100 more than the Arya Organic. Compared to the Arya, the HE1000 Stealth has better build quality and an extra year of warranty. Joshua - I would be curious to hear your opinion on the difference in sound between the two. From what I gather after doing research, the Stealth version of the HE1000 might be tuned similarly to Organic, while being a bit technically superior.
Stealth magnet degrade soundstage.
HE1000 is likely superior in term of detail retrival.
thanks for the review. looking forward to the comparison review (hope the he1000 stealth is included)
Same, i think the He1000 stealth are supposed to be overall better with more details and smoother less fatiguing treble
Sorry Josh just a heads up about thumbnail misspell. Thank you for such great content always
Hey, thank you so much for catching that, the thumbnail should be updated. I do appreciate the help a lot!
No one cares about the odd word missspelt.
Would love to see a comparison between this and the Edition XS. I just got Edition XS a month ago and love it after a few mods to make them all day comfortable. Added HD6XX head cushion with velcro straps, got velour pads for them and bent the yolks inward. Been hard to imagine that there is much out there better than this for the price. Doubt that I'll want something in 1k unless is offers a lot more than the XS
I'm looking forward to seeing that in the follow-up video as I own these as well.
the og arya is already a lot better than edition xs. i think arya organic is probably better than the og arya i had
@@qupeter1224 and it was $400 more where I live... I'm good with the XS
Edition xs is already the best headphone under 1000 doolars. You are good
@@NO_SIMP_ZONE the new ananda and stealth driver version of ananda is slightly better than edition xs for about the same price
Glad you talked about impact! Sounds awesome I may have to break my self imposed ban on buying gear.
Open up that wallet with a strong arm and flex that money grip!
As an Arya Stealth owner, I tried this Organic Arya at CanJam. My first impression was that the sound signature of this pair was the same, or at least very similar to my Arya Stealth, then I didn't spend more time listening to it (because I wanted to listen to other headphones). I am not sure if these hype trains are trustworthy, but if the sound signature difference from Arya Stealth is small, and the Organic comes at the same price as HE1000 at discount, why not (1) get HE1000, or (2) at Arya Stealth at a cheaper price and apply a bit of EQ to the Stealth.
Agreed, with the HE 1000 V2 (which I own) selling at the same price as the Organic - is one better off with the HE 1000 v2?
He 1000 might be better but drivability is an issue so if you have a weaker source organic might be a better deal
@@coardtech HE1000 Stealth has a sensitivity of 93dB, Arya Organic is 94dB... negligible difference. Subjectively, I had the Arya Stealth and the HE1000 Stealth at the same time and they were very similar, if anything the HE1000 Stealth was a bit easier to drive. The non-Stealth HE1000 V2 is a bit harder to drive at 90dB but they significantly reduced that with the Stealth version, it's drivable off portable gear.
@@blorg8206What about sound differences?
Excellent review Josh! Eagerly been anticipating this like everyone else. I think i have found my endgame cinephile headphone. First i started with the Sundara, then the edition xs to the focal radiance. The Arya Organic seems to tick all the boxes. Soundstage tick, dynamics tick, bass & punch tick, detail tick, midrange tick, scale tick. If this is not a great movie headphone then i don't know what is.
Tick or kick?
Do you think they scale well?
A great Movie Headphone? He1000 V2 Stealth really is! At the moment nearly for the same price. Summer Sale! Instead of 3000 Bucks earlier. Maybe the best solution. Big soundstages and great definition.
Thank you@@jorisconte9180 for your comment. I will investigate the He1000 V2 stealth as an option. Thanks again. 👍
i changed the pads on my hd 800s and did a little EQ, now they feel like the best thing ever for movies/games with an unmatched soundstange+precision and good dynamics,
you can bring out quite some bass (eq) without distording the sound (they are not bass focused tho obv.)
Great addition, having the honest takes from Courtney. Well done!
So I jumped the gun and purchased the Arya Organic. While I truly LOVE the soundstage and tuning, what kills it for me is the treble.. just way too much energy there which pierces my ears on certain frequencies. Maybe those of you like Josh Valour(I guess) that are OK with this level of treble energy which does gives it a nice airy sound but makes your ears bleed, then please by all means go ahead and purchase these but I am selling these off as I just can't keep listening after 15 mins of continuous play.. it's just too much for me but maybe not for you. Just be warned if your treble sensitive.. that's all I can say.
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I blindly book this headphone without reading any review, best decision ever, big risk big reward LOL
That's it - I'm buying the Arya Organic and EQ them with Oratory1990 presets.
I think this is gonna be my endgame, very hyped for it!
Thanks again to Courtney for her time and honest, new to audio experience as sometimes, I feel being heavily invested in a hobby, this case audio gear, makes you unappreciative of a fresh set of ears perspective. I’m personally not heavily invested into audio gear …. But the few headphones I have and couple amp/dacs as well I’m very happy with and give me plenty of audio enjoyment in both my gaming and my music listening 🤩🥳👍🤤
Joshua, thank you for your review of the Arya Organic. I've decided to go ahead and pull the trigger on the order for a new pair and am awaiting patiently for them to arrive. Pairing with a D70 Pro / A70 Pro and an Apos set of XLR / Headphone Cables. Additionally, HiFiMan is currently selling the Arya Organic direct from their website for $1149 ($150 off retail) including shipping!
I wanted my next pair of headphones to be a Focal Clear MG but now I'm thinking the Arya Organic could be it. I have a Sundara with an Asgard 3 and Bifrost 2/64 and really love heavy bass. I love how the Sundara sounds, but eventually I'd love to get something higher-end
Focal is meh ...... I have tried my Quad Era-1 side by side Clear MG, and my Eras have better detail separation, better tonality, they do not sound so closed in etc... for almost half the price... Then some time later i tried new Utopias and meh again... so Focal is definitely overpriced...idk.
Personally I prefer higher end hifiman headphones for the sound over any focal headphone
Just a quick comment about measuring equipment.
Different TH-camrs do different things, have different styles. If you look at well reputed camera gear review channels, you'll see it's not unusual for them to bring up a particularly technical aspect of a product and then say "But Gerald Undone has covered that" or "will cover that". And this is fine. Those of us who watch have the luxury of being able to hear multiple opinions on a new product, and I am pretty sure most of us choose to do exactly that. You have your voice, your style, your method - and it works brilliantly. Don't worry about measuring gear (unless you're very interested in it) because from an audience point of view, your analysis is why we watch your videos. Keep on keeping on :)
Please review the new HE1000 Stealth. I would love to hear your take on how it compares with the Arya Organic. Is it worth $100 more then the Arya Organic?
I have it and it’s an amazing headphone! In my opinion the best headphone hifiman has besides the Susvara!
Great info and channel Courtney is a gem 😊👍
compare it to lcd x and focal clear as these came in similar price tag
Focal Clear are half a grand cheaper
@@NRobbi42 you can get them used in 900$, in msrp they came in similar price tag
Her perspective is always so refreshing. Thank you. joshua
I’ve been waiting on this review, I’m debating between the organic and the stealth and this pretty much made up my mind
I was one of the first 1-10 people to get these when they came out! And i'm so happy I Pulled the trigger on it!!!
Great review with Courtney as always 😂. She give a points of view from normaal people.
that a wooting cable i see? 👀
i love how theres such a contrast in the clearness and confidence in speech there is between the both of u.
i know what shes talking about, im only on my new sennheiser ie300 iems, but regardless, theyve shown me sounds and bass ive never heard before. ig especially since theyre noise isolating. the bass is soo nice and punchy tho i love it
Sound spectacular and enjoyable in a way that makes the Clear and others sound synthetic. Even with the Questyle M15 they are super (balanced with MoonDrop Line W cables) but of course better on the Holo Bliss. First time I have really enjoyed headphones in decades.
Got my Organic's yesterday, and I'm comparing them to the Stealth's. Yes, gigantic soundstage and great imaging on the Organics, but I am somewhat treble sensitive and the Organic's are decidedly brighter than the Stealth. I'll give the Organic's time to burn in but I may end up returning them if they don't smooth out,. or aI may try EQ...
How's the bass compared to your Stealth's?
@@tylerthere5832 I don’t hear a huge difference. The bass in both is VERY satisfying but also well controlled. Nothing muddy or boomy about it. 😊
@@StevenFolberg-yw1oc I am curious if you ended up returning or what your final decision is. I am coming from an HD6XX and Sundara. I love them both and am looking to upgrade. Is the Organic worth the extra money over the stealth, which is now $900?
I bought my Ananda Nano few weeks ago then heard the Arya Stealth and Organic, ended up buying the Organic yesterday. No regrets!
Not for mixing. Dangerously lacking mid-frequencies. Unless you use the Sonarworks SoundID Reference correction software that makes it sound much more linear.
I've been waiting for this, but now I need to win the lottery.
Good news from that relatively slowly moving HP industry. And always nice when these rare female audiophiles or aspirants make their judgement, too. What truely goes on in an not-so-into HiFi woman's mind when listening to different kind of audio gear however will always remain kinda mystery to me (still after questioning and trying to figure out).
Great review, one question, what were you running these headphones through? Apologies if you mentioned it (I watched the review twice).
When she said "9" I felt it, and almost clicked "order now", but them I realised I need roof over my head next month. Oh well, I better start saving.
You said in the arya stealth review that you didn't like it after v2, now you say it's a great headphone for organic, which has similar sound characteristics to stealth, you are really a great reviewer 😂
Yes if that's true it's a good example that people should go back and listen to their old reviews. So if they have different thoughts they can at least say their opinion has changed over time. Or they might remind themselves of things they forgot about. When you just change the story it doesn't make any sense and it looks like bad organization.
Can't wait to try the Organic. How does it compare to my daily driver DT1990 especially the bass and treble?
It's definitely not as bright as the 1990s, and I prefer the sound of the Organics as well. Bass is tight with very low extention, and you can get as much out of it as you'd want with eq.
Got mine yesterday and compared with HE1000v2 Stealth.
If anything, it makes me appreciate the HE1000V2 Stealth even more. It's HiFiMAN's best headphone for the $, and not too far off the Susvara in raw fidelity. It's better than HE1000se as well.
I've even been able to let go of my HE6 6 Screw since its arrival.
Organic is good - HEK Stealth is even better!
This is the only comparison that really matters imo. For $100 more you can get the HE1000V2 Stealth.
This is on my Christmas list. Can't wait.
I got these but returned it. The upper end shout is truly ear piercing. It has more bass than the SE but excrutiating upper end
Please compare these againat the HE1000 Stealth (i.e. v3) in a future video. Looka like lots of people are tossing up between the two kf yhem but so far noone has made a side by side comparison yet.
I'd also love to see you compare the Arya Organic to the Edition XS. I love my pair!
Would have loved her to compare the HE1000se vs the Organic.
Man i have been wanting the Aryas for a while now. And i really want these. It's too bad after my experience with several sundaras that i really can't trust their products anymore. Especially at this price point.
He1000 stealth or Arya Organic? Tough choice
Depends what you want. I heard both for several hours and bought the organic. Better bass, more closed in bit less resolution. If you like instrumental music I would go with the V2. Electronic, bass heavier music and Hip Hop go with the organic
@@ilovecoldplayyyy What about Rock and Pop?
@@ilovecoldplayyyy got this. Had a he1000v2 and i’d take those over arya stealth. If the price diff is around 100-200 usd would you still get the arya?
@@Ray-dl5mp Rock, Heavy metal maybe go for the V2. Soundstage is bit bigger, separation a little better, tembre a little clearer.
Pop I would go with the organic. I prefer the mid presentation, not so far away. The V2 is like a huge room, the Organic is a much closer, warmer. There is much more going on.
Got the feeling that you can get lost with the V2, especially with some sort of music.
If you use to play Video Games, for example PS5 controller, just go with the organic. It gets much louder
I have loved the Arya Stealth since it first came out, and it's cool to see HiFiMAN continuing to improve on their greatest hits. I don't think it's worth it for me to upgrade (I'd be curious on your thoughts about this Josh), but I'd like to get a chance to hear the Organic at some point.
My Arya V2 broke (audio only played out of one channel) out of warranty (since Hifiman only offers a measly 1 yr warranty on 1000$+ products) and they offered to upgrade me to the organic for 500$ + trade in of my broken Arya. You should consider upgrading with trade in if you're still in warranty.
I was forced to sell my Arya Stealths during inflation, and I miss them very much. At times I missed some bass impact in them though, and I think the Organic will be the perfect replacement. :)
Keep doing what you do the way you do it Josh, don't change a thing we like it. And hey you're wise on not disagreeing with the lady
Pay Courtney! And have her on more often 😃
If you get past the looks of the Organic, I would go with the He1000 Stealth, for 1,100 to 1300 now around the net. The He1000 Stealth is a steal with more resolution. Looks like Joshy should have better rehearsed the script with the female if you were going to tell her what to say . I am not buying her...
Totally gonna get an Arya Organic as my next headphone, now if only I could find $1300 laying around somewhere... 😆
courtney representing the non audiophile crowd🙌🏻😂
I do consider this headphone as a brighter and lighter alternative to my ZMF Atrium, because I am missing some treble energy. Tried briefly Arya Stealth before during audio show and really liked it. But for now my "money to burn" pot needs to heal up a bit first :')
These are my current sets too ❤
What library of songs are you demoing in order to make the conclusions that you are making about these headphones?
Does it sample each genre?
And is she able to listen to music she normally listens too as part of the sound demo?
Also love her description of what she’s hearing when listening to the music ❤🙏🏼
The focal clear are not good for bass. They're far too slow and muddy compared to the Aria stealth.
"that was an hour and a half I'll never get back, turn the camera off" 😆 Josh holding people hostage to review headphones
So this is the new favorite for Josh? Might have to look into getting this.
Coming from an HD6XX and Sundara. Really want to get an Arya. But still cant make up mind between Stealth vs Organic.
Really enjoy your videos. Would you be able to do a video on best headphone recommendation for each genre - classical music, vocal/acapella, rock, pop etc?
I'm just happy to see Katana Zero getting some rep out here. Great game, great soundtrack.
So, the Hype is REAL !!?? and you kind of don't need much amplification !!?? Fantastic
Really great picture/video quality
I still have my Arya V2's eq'd, but all of this hype for the Organic is making me want to pull the trigger. The V2's have been perfect for me - I wouldn't change a thing. But if it's somehow possible to still have the V2 experience, but BETTER with the Organics? I'll take it. I was going to go Focal Utopia next, but I'm an Arya simp, so the Organics will come first.
Do a vs LCD-X video!!!
Dear my beloved paycheck…
Adios!
Joshua, would these be a good match for the DX3pro+? Thanks
They would be great for that amp
Literally came here to ask this exact same question lol. Does Josh not have a Patreon or Discord? He's never mentioned anything about it since 2020 so I'm guessing not.
Hifiman planars loves solid state amps. I don't recommend topping or smsl stuff.
Just get the HE 1000 stealth! They are like the baby Susvara and are the same price as the Arya Organic
If she’s your thumbnail, you should probably pay her :P
Yes Arya Organic is BEST Arya. Try to listen "Praying" - Kesha
Courtney is amazing. She is amazing to listen to since she sees HIFI a bit different than the HIFI nerds.
you should include her more in next videos.
I’ve heard both and I prefer the LCD X 2021’s presentation a tad more. I think the Aryas might measure and be technically better but yeah the lcd X for me is a better listen especially for chilling out.
For bass response only LCD X or Arya??
What you prefer?
@@towsifshahriarshovo For bass definitely the LCD X especially and I mean especially if you’re willing to EQ!
@@iykeguy thanks for the reply, I have problem with extra high frequency. So for me I think LCD X going to be better. Which part should I eq?
@@towsifshahriarshovo I would say check out the “Resolve eq” as I particularly use that, or you can browse around for other eq options. I’m sure after some eq profiles, you’ll start to figure out trends that you can adjust to your taste.
@@towsifshahriarshovoarya’s are bright and lacking in bass. Lcd-x is relaxed and has really good slam but lacks space. Don’t buy before you try applies for both models
Thanks for the review.
I have a feeling he kidnapped Courtney.
How is it compared to the Meze 109 Pro?
Now my interest is piqued with the Arya Organic. Also, 5:21 SHE IS SO ADORABLE!
These had just turned up when I demo’d a fair few headphones in this price range. I actually liked the stealth a little more than these! Maybe so new to the shop the demo model wasn’t burnt in or something.
You're making this girl addicted.
Do you feel chord mojo 2 will do them justice playing from a phone?
I use the Mojo 2 with Arya Stealth, which has the same sensitivity as the Organic. No problems driving them.
@@Radaos thanks for 4eply bro
Great review 👍
Will tubes ..cut back some of the brightness??
Btw, looking to get a better amp for my Sen’s 650’s ..they scale wonderfully..and who knows one day I may look at these .
Great video 👍🍕☕️🔥🥓
You don’t tube 16 Omhs planar…
@@thierryfaquet7405 I don’t EQ ..so pass on these …
@@carminedesanto6746 I’m not working for Hifiman I don’t really care. Sorry.
You can do a hybrid amp
Okay but how does it compare to the HE1000 V2 Stealths being just a $100 more?
Guys! Please! I need help! Found the Organic at 1160. But I'm thinking to buy the HE1000se. Help me with a decision!
He1000 Stealth over either its the best of both worlds its like a combo of the Organic and He1000SE but with smoother treble.
I've heard Organic and He1000se are overly bright and more bright than He1000V2 Stealth.
Vs. 109 Pros thought? Upgrade?
If you want more punch with the stealth's just swap the stock pads for Dekoni Elite velour's. The general consensus is that the stealth sounds more natural with better soundstage.
I have been thinking about going with the LCD X, but may now go with Arya Organic!
Did you pull a trigger?
SO if i were using this for immersive RPG gaming (lots of music and immersive environmental effects with large stage helpful)...pick this over the arya stealth?
3:19 tanchjim kara spotted.
Eagerly waiting for Organic vs HEK stealth comparison
Add in the Arya Stealth for good measure.
Great review! Got myself a pair too and Im in love. I only dislike is the cable. Can you recommend a 3,5mm one?😊
Meze Silver premium cables in 3.5.
I personally think the high end ZMFs would be your favourite headphones...
What are main differences/similarities between Organic ($1299) and HEk Stealth ($1399)??
I traded in my Arya Stealth to Hifiman and wasn't sure if I wanted to try the HEk Stealth or the Organic. I went with the HEk Stealth mostly based on the know great reviews and the more metal build. I would think a lot of folks are trying to choose between these two as they are so close in price, they both have the wood veneer and similar style, and they have such similar technology now. Please share thoughts. Thanks!
The He1000V2 Stealth need some EQ Settings and Amp Power- then it shines. A real champion.😮
I have HEk Stealth. My question is how it compares with the Organic. Thanks.@@jorisconte9180
@@jorisconte9180I drive it with the ef 400 and the stax srm D50 and damn does it sound really good lol
@@colingordon0986, and I will drive it with the RME ADI-2 DAC Amp and the Violectric V222 in Balanced-Mode. Superb.
@@jorisconte9180 hell yeah man! Something about pairing a solid state amp with a electrostatic amp. Wouldn’t know how it would pair together but does an amazing job.
The Focal Clear MG is best for female vocalists but not great for everything else. Looks like I will have to give this one a try.
The most important comparison is against the new HE1000 v2 Stealth, it is just 100$ more. make sure you hear it first.
Josh, I don’t give two sh!ts about whether you can do measurements. You’re still the best TH-cam headphone reviewer out there.
Love my HEX2 but if these will run off my Dragonfly Cobalt then I’m definitely going to upgrade.
I'm really interested in these headphones. I saw another reviewer mention the Organic prefers R2R DACs, is this what you meant when you said "... doesn't mean it's not amplifier picky at all"?