Oh my... Mr. Price with his white hair, striped shirt, silver rimmed glasses, & Southern accent puts me in mind of my dear Father. A couple of side profiles are just spot on. I must admit to a flood of memories and emotions just now. Thank you for a delightful presentation, gentlemen.
Great video Tubalcain, you can tell that Ellie is old hat with that surface grinder, he was working the controls like a pro! Awesome to see the angle plates restored especially the South Bend.
Ellie is a pro for sure, just notice how he works, neat, clean, and methodical. Mr. Pete said he was a toolmaker, that fits but the engine turning was a hallmark of the gauge makers I once knew. The gauge makers were the next step above a toolmaker, I guess you can say they were the top of the trade. Things can vary regionally or by company things may be different in your area.
That was very kind of Mr. Price for doing that work. It is a time consuming task especially on a manual machine. I hope to see them in action in your shop.
Looks great Mr. Pete! My father is a career Tool and Die machinist and I'm a heavy equipment mechanic. I'm setting up a home machine shop and was able to purchase my late uncles tooling from my cousins and I have one of the Guages Ellie sent. That would be a magnetic cylinder square with a reduced shank for whomever cared to know what it is. Keep up the great work!!
Good morning Mr. Pete, and thank you for another great informative video! I’m seeing more of your videos being recommended in my feed again and I truly hope you’re viewership is getting back to normal and higher.
Far as I'm concerned surface grinders without power feeds are one step above Boat anchors,,,But all the tool makers never use the power feeds. No idea why.
Beautiful engine turning. I did that once long ago on sheet aluminum that was used as an insert gauge panel in a car. I used a flat faced engine valve with a soft leather glued to it, grinding compound, and a drill press. Mad respect for those who do it well like that! 👍👍👍
A leather faced wooden dowel and fine grit Clover compound on a drill press is what I used. Keep the rows straight and overlap each small circle about 3/4, leaving the jeweled centers showing. Each row should overlap the previous row about 1/3, again leaving the bright centers exposed. The pattern that I liked best appears as several rows of overlapping fish scales.
Thats a very nice looking grinder. He takes great care of his equipment and he's great to watch. Thanks for another great video. You should do a series called me Pete and friends.
This is the kind of guy you wish would live down the street, so you could hang out in his shop to sweep the floor...in exchange for getting access to some of his immense knowledge.
Mr. Pete, look for a spray protectant calls Gibbs. It is available from Amazon. It would be great for the angle plates. I sprayed it onto a machined cast iron surface that I cleaned back in July, sat the part in my garage after spraying the necessary surfaces and to date, no rust. The humidity here is usually in the 80% plus range in the warm months. Today here in Susquehanna Valley, it is above 70%. Yes, oil can work and I have not done a comparison. WD40 and similar sprays are temporary. If you want long lasting protection, Amsoil Heavy Duty Metal Protector works. It will also lubircate a roller chain - think motorcycle. I would use this on an angle plate I was going to store and not use as it may have a coating that could affect accuracy.
One of the best protectants is Boeshield, but it's pricey. A good alternative is Fluid Film, made from lanolin so it smells a bit odd. I'll look for the Gibbs, thanks for the recommendation.
The diamond dressing tool was purchased on eBay so not shop made. The steps add to the cost of my hardened and ground master angle plate but are very useful for 🎉precision tool making.
I have a commercial precision cylindrical magnetic square of the same design. It was made by Cadillac, the same company that made the height gauges. It belonged to my dad, a tool, and die maker. I suspect that he bought it new in the late 1950's. I never use it. I just keep it oiled in it's original wooden case.
Thank you, Mr. Ellie Price for the collaboration and efforts. Thank you for the videos, Mr. Pete. I take it the post office did eventually find the first one you sent to him and got it delivered?
Hi John. I sent you my contact info a few minutes ago but TH-cam removed it. I guess they don’t permit email addresses to be posted. Sorry I can’t help at this point.
I wa t to send some work to Ellie, just so I can own some of his work! Suburban Tool makes magnetic squares like that. They don’t give them away. Lyle, you are not so far away, how about a tour of that place? 😎
Search for "Shop-Made 2 x 72 Belt Grinder - TH-cam for a short shop tour and video of my belt grinder. Small print should say "filmed and edited by Keaton Cooper"
"Cylinder square" is the term you were looking for. They come with the narrow shaft, like yours (and I think Abom has a similar). They also come in full cylinder (which I have) but those are very heavy, and require careful handling not to damage themselves or any surface plate they are used on. Tom Lipton has a really neat full cylinder square with one end deliberately ground at a *very* slight angle. By rotating it you can get any angle, between zero (actually 90˚) and the angle of the base (a tiny fraction of a degree IIRC or possibly it was graduated in thousandths per foot). It lets you put a number to the angle of the target surface.
Suburban Tool makes a high precision hardened and ground cylinder square similar to mine for $495.00 in a fitted wooden case. The primary difference is the materials used and the care required to keep them accurate. The aluminum base on my gauge must be handled and stored very carefully to prevent damage. Next step to for this type would be hard anodized aluminum for the base.
I thought it was interesting that the wheel had to be dressed so often. I have a Delta toolroom grinder, no idea how old it is or how many grinding cycles it's been through. I'd like to know about how he plugged the holes. I'm assuming they were welded. I would guess a nickel rod and possibly TIG? I didn't see any splatter on the surface. I've heard that welders and machinists don't get along. Thanks for sharing. Jim
Thanks for the question. I plugged the 1/4-20 tapped holes with 5/16 dia. steel rod. After drilling, reaming and cleaning with acetone, the plugs were installed with red Loctite and cured. After grinding flush and painting it takes a keen eye to see where the originals were. The first wheel was the wrong type for cast iron and had to be replaced with an open structure Radiac wheel for cooler grinding with no distortion. The castings were an unusually hard grade requiring several wheel dressings for the finish required for Mr. Pete's presentation.
Great to see two Ole Timers out there keeping dementia at bay by still doing what they love. My only question is why surface grind these parts instead of milling them?
Depends on what they’re used for and the degree of accuracy needed. Cast and milled angle plates are mostly used on milling machines where extreme accuracy is not needed. Ground angle plates, (often hardened and ground) are primarily used on surface grinders and inspection room setups where a much higher degree of accuracy is required.
Hey Mr. Pete, can you show the public how to use the surface gage with a dial indicator, how to check for squareness using the ball filial on a surface plate?
Great video on next level precision. Would it be possible to (or is there one already?) create a video that shows the relationships between parallel and perpendicular, and how to set up a workpiece on an angle plate to ensure perpendicularity?
Perpendicular comes from the quality of the master angle plate, in this situation. You can step grind to bring a piece into squareness unto itself, no outside error introduced from other tools. I expected to see a final inspection directly on the angle plate, no magnetic tool to introduce error. I am a master mold maker, over 45 years in the trade, did this kind of stuff daily on a regular basis.
@@DJPLAST2 If you have a certified surface plate and cylindrical master square you can check the accuracy with a bright backlight. When the accuracy is in tenths of a thousands the light band turns blue. You would know this of course since you’re a master mold maker. Not saying these plates reach that level but they’re close.
OK, Lyle,,,,,,When you gonna' get a surface grinder? - I know you like sharpers, but in order of importance to me are Drill Press, Lathe, Bridgeport surface grinder, and Horizontal Mill. We have never owned a sharper (But our "Bridgeport" is a Cinci Toolmaster and we have a slotting head for it that we adapted to fit on the Horizontal) Just sayin'. Most people completely underestimate what you can do on the surface grinder. Just look at athe tings Gottswinter has done on his. You can do all types of things from roughing in hard materials, to re-grinding mills (including the flutes, Sharpening Taps and dovetail cutters, and even do things normally done on a mill. We re-ground cutters on the Brown and Sharp #3 all the time before we got the KO Lee T&C grinder we - I even knew a knew a guy that customized 1911 .45s that had no lathe or mill.Years ago before the ATF got totally out of hand we welded slides and kugs on barrels for him from government surplus parts and he made extended barrel pistols using only the surface grinder, drill press and hand tools. Got a great title for a new vid. - Tubalcain rebuilds a surface grinder. (they are filthy things when hyou get the covers off, though.
Beautiful grinding work and accurate too! I see he ground bottoms then tops of each face, but why didn't he flip his angle plate with yours still attached, to grind the sides of your angle plates perfectly 90 degrees to all surfaces as well?
The sides (ends) of Mr. Pete's plates were precision ground square with the faces and parallel with each other using my hardened and ground A2 master plate seen in several photos. Both faces and ends are square with all others within .0005 or less in four inches.
@@ellieprice3396 Yes! My Bad! I didn't stick around long enough to view your excellent grinding ops photos. Anybody whose ever made his own angle plate knows to also grind the "L"s along with the other surfaces.
Thank you Mr Pete. Do you own, or have you seen, or know where a guy can get one of these in a non-90 degree angle version? I do a lot of grinding work which requires me to hold the work piece at a 3 to 7 degree angle. I use an adjustable version of this now, but would sure love to find some that were fixed, like these angle plates you so here. Am I dreaming? : - )
Yes I could, and have done that on a couple of pieces @@dcraft1234. Though I still wonder if something like I'm looking for has ever been made, and is findable?
I do have an adjustable angle plate. I am sure I have shown it in videos. You can vary the angle. Send me your email and I will send you a picture of it. But start a new comment, do not use this one or I will not get it
These could be fabricated fairly easily by bolting or welding two CRS plates together at the desired angle. The plates would be normalized for stress relief (if needed) and finish ground on all surfaces. For plates in the 6 x 6 range or less 3/4 thickness would be adequate.
On all things i send by any of the delivery companies. I have a printed sticker with from and to names and addresses right on the part... shipping via usps. I put. To. 90001. What ever the delivery zip code is on 5 sides of the box. So any hand sorting does not require box rotation. On some boxes. I have put fiberglass strapping tape on the inside surfaces of the box. Or create an inside box wrapped in fiberglass strapping tape and a permanent marker to write the to address on. So even if the box is shreaded. The package inside gets thru.. I shipped 2 identical boxes at the same post office. One with zip codes on all sides of the box. That arrived 2 days faster than the other box
I have a Dawson Cutter Grinder, {Royal Oak} which does the same functions as a surface grinder {and much more}. I have used it for similar jobs with good results. I have yet to figure out how that form relief device works. Mine being a Dawson, has not got a pivoting grinder head, but it has a back panel on the rear of the elevation post with a 5/8 threaded hole, to which i attached a Themac 7 grinder on a custom plate that allows 360 degrees of position. i will someday make a degree wheel to set it, but for now i have a chinesium electronic level to set the wheel angle The elevation post also rotates, so i can use either machine. I have yet to use it for anything but piddly projects. i need to add cooling lines, its already set up for it. the RO DS form grinder fixture also has a rotational feature mine does not, so i have a rotary table to use with it if i ever figure out how it works. I picked up a CutterMaster Air bearing, new in the box, and again, have ever used it. I can cut or grind basically any cutting tool made to my knowledge, as i have about 3 large boxes of fixtures, giz wizzies, and whatzits. And for a bonus? 4 milk crates full of high end grinding wheels, to include about 30 name brand Diamond stones in dozens of angles and styles. It has vises, angle fixtures, locating fingers, just tons of things, including 4 full sets of collets. Make anything but money.
That sounds like a very useful machine for many projects once you get all the functions sorted out. I have a simple setup on my surface grinder to resharpen end mills using my 5C rotary indexer and diamond cup wheel but nothing compared to what you have.
Magnetic cylinder squares of this type are easy to check for accuracy. If you get a minus .001 drop (-.001) over the top surface of the shaft you should get the same reading in all four 90 degree quadrants. If the error is the same in all four rotations the gage is dead accurate.
You are as fortunate to have Ellie as a friend as we are to have you. Thanks for sharing your talents with us.
Thanks Mr Pete and Mr Price. It is a pleasure to hear southern English spoken.
It does have a beautiful lull to it
Best angle plate video EVER ! Thanks !
Glad it was helpful!
Oh my... Mr. Price with his white hair, striped shirt, silver rimmed glasses, & Southern accent puts me in mind of my dear Father. A couple of side profiles are just spot on. I must admit to a flood of memories and emotions just now. Thank you for a delightful presentation, gentlemen.
Great video Tubalcain, you can tell that Ellie is old hat with that surface grinder, he was working the controls like a pro! Awesome to see the angle plates restored especially the South Bend.
Thanks for watching!
This channel never gets dull . . always very informative and always beneficial.
Thank you master Pete
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Ellie is a pro for sure, just notice how he works, neat, clean, and methodical. Mr. Pete said he was a toolmaker, that fits but the engine turning was a hallmark of the gauge makers I once knew. The gauge makers were the next step above a toolmaker, I guess you can say they were the top of the trade. Things can vary regionally or by company things may be different in your area.
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Very impressive!
That was very kind of Mr. Price for doing that work. It is a time consuming task especially on a manual machine. I hope to see them in action in your shop.
Those came out amazing! Ellie does beautiful work!! Thank you to the both of you! (And to Ellie's grandson.)
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Wow-one hand rocking back and forth and the other going round and round. That's an artist.
Looks great Mr. Pete!
My father is a career Tool and Die machinist and I'm a heavy equipment mechanic. I'm setting up a home machine shop and was able to purchase my late uncles tooling from my cousins and I have one of the Guages Ellie sent.
That would be a magnetic cylinder square with a reduced shank for whomever cared to know what it is.
Keep up the great work!!
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What a nice gentleman and what a great job he made of those brackets and that inspection square. Thanks for sharing.
Brandy and marmalade toast! 🤣🥃🤪 sounds nice!
Bravo mr.pete and mr.price !!!! Thankyou
Excellent collaboration project.How interesting work your friend Ellie does.Thank you.
Very interesting. Thanks to you and Ellie.
Very nice job by Ellie. Nice new tool for you. 😊😊😊😊😊😊
Thanks, Mr Pete, and Thankyou Ellie - nice bit of jeweling to finish the pieces, by the way. Nice putting a face to the name too, Ellie.
"beautifully packed ... so that even, er, never mind" Had to laugh out loud. Thank you Mr. Pete for another great video!
Indeed!
They really did turn out nice. Thank you for sharing the project.
Great stuff as usual, Mr Pete! Nice precision tool you received! Thanks for your time and sharing and also inclusions of other craftsmen! 👍😎✌️
Thank you Mr. Pete! I learn so much from you! 😁
I really appreciated this video. Thank you for making it, and to Ellie, also. I learned so much, especially more tools I would like to have someday.
Good morning Mr. Pete, and thank you for another great informative video! I’m seeing more of your videos being recommended in my feed again and I truly hope you’re viewership is getting back to normal and higher.
Thank you, I hope so
Very interesting and enjoyable. Thank you fellas.
Great collaboration video Mr.Pete! Thanks,we enjoyed so much!
Ellie's work is magnificent....Bravo
I sure do hope i can still run a surface grinder by hand when i am his age!! Awesome!! Plates look beautiful...great job sir!!
Far as I'm concerned surface grinders without power feeds are one step above Boat anchors,,,But all the tool makers never use the power feeds. No idea why.
Beautiful engine turning. I did that once long ago on sheet aluminum that was used as an insert gauge panel in a car. I used a flat faced engine valve with a soft leather glued to it, grinding compound, and a drill press. Mad respect for those who do it well like that! 👍👍👍
A leather faced wooden dowel and fine grit Clover compound on a drill press is what I used. Keep the rows straight and overlap each small circle about 3/4, leaving the jeweled centers showing. Each row should overlap the previous row about 1/3, again leaving the bright centers exposed. The pattern that I liked best appears as several rows of overlapping fish scales.
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Thats a very nice looking grinder. He takes great care of his equipment and he's great to watch. Thanks for another great video. You should do a series called me Pete and friends.
Wow, that would be a good title for my collaborations
Another fine cinematic adventure. Keep ‘‘em coming. Thank you.
Big thanks for sharing 👍
This is the kind of guy you wish would live down the street, so you could hang out in his shop to sweep the floor...in exchange for getting access to some of his immense knowledge.
lol
Mr. Pete, look for a spray protectant calls Gibbs. It is available from Amazon. It would be great for the angle plates. I sprayed it onto a machined cast iron surface that I cleaned back in July, sat the part in my garage after spraying the necessary surfaces and to date, no rust. The humidity here is usually in the 80% plus range in the warm months. Today here in Susquehanna Valley, it is above 70%. Yes, oil can work and I have not done a comparison. WD40 and similar sprays are temporary. If you want long lasting protection, Amsoil Heavy Duty Metal Protector works. It will also lubircate a roller chain - think motorcycle. I would use this on an angle plate I was going to store and not use as it may have a coating that could affect accuracy.
One of the best protectants is Boeshield, but it's pricey. A good alternative is Fluid Film, made from lanolin so it smells a bit odd.
I'll look for the Gibbs, thanks for the recommendation.
Thanks Lyle.
Nice Shirt. They are in Two Rivers WI, South & East of Green Bay. 145 Miles from Me.
Mike M.
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wonderful information Lyle.....best wishes, Paul
Thank you for sharing. Very nice.👍👀
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Very well done enjoy seeing such craftsmanship
Thanks as always!
My favorite yew toob shop t-shirt
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I love that dressing tool! Shop made?
Now i know what the step on the $$$ angle plates is for 🤣💵💵💵
The diamond dressing tool was purchased on eBay so not shop made. The steps add to the cost of my hardened and ground master angle plate but are very useful for 🎉precision tool making.
Nice video
Beautiful work. A pleasure to watch.
Beautiful art work!!!
Great video, Ellie is definitely talented. He needs a TH-cam channel.
I have a commercial precision cylindrical magnetic square of the same design. It was made by Cadillac, the same company that made the height gauges. It belonged to my dad, a tool, and die maker. I suspect that he bought it new in the late 1950's. I never use it. I just keep it oiled in it's original wooden case.
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Great video as always. Thank you again for the great content
Nice to see type of work, Thanks 🎉
Very nice!
Thank you, Mr. Ellie Price for the collaboration and efforts.
Thank you for the videos, Mr. Pete. I take it the post office did eventually find the first one you sent to him and got it delivered?
Cheers to Elle Price....
yay cool... has Ellie got a TH-cam channel
Yes
@@adamgarrison4400 how do I find it ?
I found it by searching "Ellie Price Grinding" in y/t search. Only one video on a 2 X 72" belt sander.
Magnetic cylinder squares are commercially available.
Thanks
Very interesting indeed.
Job well done gentlemen
Beautiful job Mr Pete !!
I recently purchased a S-B angle plate on eBay.. I’ll be contacting Mr Price soon. John
Hi John. I sent you my contact info a few minutes ago but TH-cam removed it. I guess they don’t permit email addresses to be posted. Sorry I can’t help at this point.
Thank you Mr Price. Found your info from Google. Thanks for taking my call. Semper Fi.
Great job
Smoother than a cnc Lots of practic with that machine. closed my eyes and listened and the pace and cut were dead even.
I wa t to send some work to Ellie, just so I can own some of his work! Suburban Tool makes magnetic squares like that. They don’t give them away. Lyle, you are not so far away, how about a tour of that place? 😎
Search for "Shop-Made 2 x 72 Belt Grinder - TH-cam for a short shop tour and video of my belt grinder. Small print should say "filmed and edited by Keaton Cooper"
Very cool
THANKS PETE
"Cylinder square" is the term you were looking for. They come with the narrow shaft, like yours (and I think Abom has a similar). They also come in full cylinder (which I have) but those are very heavy, and require careful handling not to damage themselves or any surface plate they are used on.
Tom Lipton has a really neat full cylinder square with one end deliberately ground at a *very* slight angle. By rotating it you can get any angle, between zero (actually 90˚) and the angle of the base (a tiny fraction of a degree IIRC or possibly it was graduated in thousandths per foot). It lets you put a number to the angle of the target surface.
Thanks
Suburban Tool makes a high precision hardened and ground cylinder square similar to mine for $495.00 in a fitted wooden case. The primary difference is the materials used and the care required to keep them accurate. The aluminum base on my gauge must be handled and stored very carefully to prevent damage.
Next step to for this type would be hard anodized aluminum for the base.
I thought it was interesting that the wheel had to be dressed so often. I have a Delta toolroom grinder, no idea how old it is or how many grinding cycles it's been through.
I'd like to know about how he plugged the holes. I'm assuming they were welded. I would guess a nickel rod and possibly TIG? I didn't see any splatter on the surface. I've heard that welders and machinists don't get along. Thanks for sharing. Jim
Thanks for the question. I plugged the 1/4-20 tapped holes with 5/16 dia. steel rod. After drilling, reaming and cleaning with acetone, the plugs were installed with red Loctite and cured. After grinding flush and painting it takes a keen eye to see where the originals were. The first wheel was the wrong type for cast iron and had to be replaced with an open structure Radiac wheel for cooler grinding with no distortion. The castings were an unusually hard grade requiring several wheel dressings for the finish required for Mr. Pete's presentation.
stunning.... so what oil will you use to protect them ?
You need a display case in your living room with those in it.
Great to see two Ole Timers out there keeping dementia at bay by still doing what they love. My only question is why surface grind these parts instead of milling them?
Depends on what they’re used for and the degree of accuracy needed. Cast and milled angle plates are mostly used on milling machines where extreme accuracy is not needed. Ground angle plates, (often hardened and ground) are primarily used on surface grinders and inspection room setups where a much higher degree of accuracy is required.
Hey Mr. Pete, can you show the public how to use the surface gage with a dial indicator, how to check for squareness using the ball filial on a surface plate?
Actually I have already made a video of that. But I have not published it yet
Great video on next level precision.
Would it be possible to (or is there one already?) create a video that shows the relationships between parallel and perpendicular, and how to set up a workpiece on an angle plate to ensure perpendicularity?
Perpendicular comes from the quality of the master angle plate, in this situation. You can step grind to bring a piece into squareness unto itself, no outside error introduced from other tools. I expected to see a final inspection directly on the angle plate, no magnetic tool to introduce error. I am a master mold maker, over 45 years in the trade, did this kind of stuff daily on a regular basis.
@@DJPLAST2 If you have a certified surface plate and cylindrical master square you can check the accuracy with a bright backlight. When the accuracy is in tenths of a thousands the light band turns blue. You would know this of course since you’re a master mold maker. Not saying these plates reach that level but they’re close.
OK, Lyle,,,,,,When you gonna' get a surface grinder? - I know you like sharpers, but in order of importance to me are Drill Press, Lathe, Bridgeport surface grinder, and Horizontal Mill. We have never owned a sharper (But our "Bridgeport" is a Cinci Toolmaster and we have a slotting head for it that we adapted to fit on the Horizontal)
Just sayin'. Most people completely underestimate what you can do on the surface grinder. Just look at athe tings Gottswinter has done on his. You can do all types of things from roughing in hard materials, to re-grinding mills (including the flutes, Sharpening Taps and dovetail cutters, and even do things normally done on a mill. We re-ground cutters on the Brown and Sharp #3 all the time before we got the KO Lee T&C grinder we - I even knew a knew a guy that customized 1911 .45s that had no lathe or mill.Years ago before the ATF got totally out of hand we welded slides and kugs on barrels for him from government surplus parts and he made extended barrel pistols using only the surface grinder, drill press and hand tools.
Got a great title for a new vid. - Tubalcain rebuilds a surface grinder. (they are filthy things when hyou get the covers off, though.
👍👍
Mr Pete thanks much does he take every pass
About .002/.003. Much less .0001/.0002 with coolant and fresh dressed wheel on final finish passes.
Beautiful grinding work and accurate too!
I see he ground bottoms then tops of each face, but why didn't he flip his angle plate with yours still attached, to grind the sides of your angle plates perfectly 90 degrees to all surfaces as well?
The sides (ends) of Mr. Pete's plates were precision ground square with the faces and parallel with each other using my hardened and ground A2 master plate seen in several photos. Both faces and ends are square with all others within .0005 or less in four inches.
@@ellieprice3396 Yes! My Bad! I didn't stick around long enough to view your excellent grinding ops photos. Anybody whose ever made his own angle plate knows to also grind the "L"s along with the other surfaces.
Thank you Mr Pete.
Do you own, or have you seen, or know where a guy can get one of these in a non-90 degree angle version?
I do a lot of grinding work which requires me to hold the work piece at a 3 to 7 degree angle. I use an adjustable version of this now, but would sure love to find some that were fixed, like these angle plates you so here.
Am I dreaming? : - )
Could you just mill and grind one for your angles?
Yes I could, and have done that on a couple of pieces @@dcraft1234. Though I still wonder if something like I'm looking for has ever been made, and is findable?
I do have an adjustable angle plate. I am sure I have shown it in videos. You can vary the angle. Send me your email and I will send you a picture of it. But start a new comment, do not use this one or I will not get it
These could be fabricated fairly easily by bolting or welding two CRS plates together at the desired angle. The plates would be normalized for stress relief (if needed) and finish ground on all surfaces. For plates in the 6 x 6 range or less 3/4 thickness would be adequate.
I may show my ignorance but could you possibly set up the Bridgeport to surface grind?
No, not accurate enough. Both machines are ideal for the purposes they’re designed for and neither machine can be substituted for the other.
@@ellieprice363 Thank you for your expertise and answer!
He sure moves fast for an old guy! There were times when he was just a blur!
On all things i send by any of the delivery companies. I have a printed sticker with from and to names and addresses right on the part... shipping via usps. I put.
To. 90001. What ever the delivery zip code is on 5 sides of the box. So any hand sorting does not require box rotation.
On some boxes. I have put fiberglass strapping tape on the inside surfaces of the box. Or create an inside box wrapped in fiberglass strapping tape and a permanent marker to write the to address on. So even if the box is shreaded. The package inside gets thru..
I shipped 2 identical boxes at the same post office. One with zip codes on all sides of the box. That arrived 2 days faster than the other box
Thank you, great ideas. I have a video coming out on how to package
I have a Dawson Cutter Grinder, {Royal Oak} which does the same functions as a surface grinder {and much more}. I have used it for similar jobs with good results. I have yet to figure out how that form relief device works. Mine being a Dawson, has not got a pivoting grinder head, but it has a back panel on the rear of the elevation post with a 5/8 threaded hole, to which i attached a Themac 7 grinder on a custom plate that allows 360 degrees of position. i will someday make a degree wheel to set it, but for now i have a chinesium electronic level to set the wheel angle The elevation post also rotates, so i can use either machine. I have yet to use it for anything but piddly projects. i need to add cooling lines, its already set up for it. the RO DS form grinder fixture also has a rotational feature mine does not, so i have a rotary table to use with it if i ever figure out how it works. I picked up a CutterMaster Air bearing, new in the box, and again, have ever used it. I can cut or grind basically any cutting tool made to my knowledge, as i have about 3 large boxes of fixtures, giz wizzies, and whatzits. And for a bonus? 4 milk crates full of high end grinding wheels, to include about 30 name brand Diamond stones in dozens of angles and styles. It has vises, angle fixtures, locating fingers, just tons of things, including 4 full sets of collets. Make anything but money.
Wow, that sounds like quite a machine. I am not familiar with that brand. I bet your whole set up is worth thousands of dollars
That sounds like a very useful machine for many projects once you get all the functions sorted out. I have a simple setup on my surface grinder to resharpen end mills using my 5C rotary indexer and diamond cup wheel but nothing compared to what you have.
that wheel dresser is awesome. where did you get it?
Stick address labels on items you are posting?
Rustoration
What, no surface grinder!
I was taught it was called a cylinder square
You couldn't find a generation X, Y, or Zer to do this? Probably aren't too many to pick from. Great video; lots of skills demonstrated.
Well, I am a very early X'er. I could have done this, I grew up in this field and have been hands-on active for 40 years
Oh, and magnetic cylinder squares like that are available from the usual suspects. Suburban may make one, I'd have to check.
Magnetic cylinder squares of this type are easy to check for accuracy. If you get a minus .001 drop (-.001) over the top surface of the shaft you should get the same reading in all four 90 degree quadrants. If the error is the same in all four rotations the gage is dead accurate.