It's the extremely relatively low-powered CPU that are in the consoles balance between CPU and GPU in PS4 and PS5 error is heavily rigged towards the GPU That's why there's so little world simulation in games these days And CPU heavy games struggle with frame rate
@@chrisc_1012the CPU has been bottlenecking GPUs since forever. This is especially true in most recent years, even if these consoles had high end CPUs, that still wouldn't make 60fps just work in every game. Just look at the situation with Dragon's Dogma 2 even on PC.
@@jdbarrera Developers will always optimize towards 30 fps and screenshots, because youtube is mostly 30 fps and screenshots sell games. People that care or even know what 4k over 60 fps (that can even hook that to a tv, most will have hdmi1.4) is the lower percentage, and not worth doing the work for
I don’t get it 😅 cyber punk looks and runs better than 99% of new gen games. And the world is more complicated than them. Don’t tell me it’s not possible.
@@jonathanrivera8585 The inability to achieve it isn't even the main issue - the main issue is that at normal viewing distances relative to screen size, 8K is not even perceptibly different to 4K. So what's the point in wasting the performance there on literally nothing when you could push towards 120 fps, or even just save some power? The only situation where 8K makes sense is something like VR or 3D displays (since 3D effectively cuts the perceived resolution in half AFAIK)
It's so ridiculous I had to laugh. 4K isn't even the norm yet, tell me one game that does native 4K60fps? Even on PC that's hard, it takes upscalers to do that job, it still feels like a big deal when a game can do upscaled 4K60fps, 8K my ass lmao, and I doubt 8K is even worth it anyway, that's like saying a game runs at 500fps, when your eye can't even make a difference after 120fps or whatever.
@@Gummibri Destiny 1 at launch was a disaster. No content, poor online features, poor voice acting, insulting storytelling, etc. The only thing Destiny 1 had going for it at launch was great gunplay. They had to climb their way out of that ditch with multiple paid expansions and an eventual sequel.
i do i hate that it took them years to update, i loved being able to use themes and wallpapers , sony is a disgrace on multiple fronts and i am a ps5 user and never owned xbox@@sandwhichbag
I just wish there were more games that used the adaptive triggers. Like yeah framerate and resolution are important but the only game ive experienced, and barely because I had already beaten it by the time the update for it came out I think, was cyberpunk. Not being able to feel that resistance is just a huge bummer, like visceral, to me.
Regarding PSVR2, they should have released more hybrid games like GT and the Resident Evil games. Much cheaper to adjust a game for PSVR2 than to make a new one. They could even go back to an older Killzone or Resistance and it would be very cool.
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@@Wystimpy18 gotta get someone to buy it first! But I’m not in a rush, building my PC in April, only missing my card, ssd/storage, and ram! Case, motherboard, cpu etc all in and ready to go. Going to keep my base ps5 likely and just wait for a ps6 (if enticing enough) or wait for a ps6 pro
@@MonkeyDLuffy-sv2pt exactly, if I had the option to spend an extra $100-150 on launch day for a pro version, I’d have done it right there and then, but seeing as it’s 4.5 years into the cycle it’s just kinda frustrating
I doubt very much I'm alone in this, but as soon as PC support is rolled out for PSVR 2 (and it's robust) I'm grabbing one. I want the PS games for it, it's where I'll play most games, but I want to benefit from Steam sales and library too.
Digital Foundry don't really have all of the details of the PS5 Pro. They are speculating. They don't even know what implementation the GPU is. They only know that the GPU is clocked lower in certain situations.
To be fair, we are all guessing. We won’t know how good/bad PS5 Pro will be until it’s in the wild. Predicting can be fun though. But I agree with your sentiment.
@@robertlawrence9000i don’t consider DF a reliable source. They said about “A Plague Tale: Requiem” that it was impossible to run on consoles, then the update came and they were suddenly impressed. I’ll believe it when we’ll see it.
I'm still baffled that they didn't add themes as a default from the beginning of the PS5 We spent a whole generation collecting really good and creative themes in the PS4 era just for them to ditch them
PS4 didn't have themes for the first few years and that was following the PS3 which also didn't have themes for the first few years. Hopefully that means they'll come eventually
The ps4 ditched the ps3 themes and it took years for it to come to ps4. If all the themes carries over between generations it would be very limiting to what the new interface can be
This machine has to run games natively 60 fps first and foremost. If not then there's honestly no point of this machine. Fps should be first priority no excuses. Resolution is not as important.
What you say about rise of the ronin and its score is a general problem with gaming metascores nowadays. We have a possible rating of 0 to 100 and everything unter 70 is considered "bad", 70 to 80 is "ok" and only things over 80 are "good". That 0 to 70 span is so huge and yes, games below 70 can also be fun and enjoyable. But of course, potentially fun games are oftentimes not given a chance, just because they got a rating around 70.
To be fair, part of it is also people accounting for review inflation. Given the meme that any old piece of drek can get a 9.0 from IGN, people naturally assume that for a game to rank below 80, it must be pretty bad. Or, perhaps more generously, the competition in the market is so intense, with so many good games (and such high backlogs) that people just don't consider anything "mid" to be worth 40+ hours of scarce free time, when they haven't even got around to finishing Elden Ring yet.
Keep in mind that the review scale is not scaled from something like Suicide Squad (a decidedly mid 5/6 out of 10 game) to God of War 2018 (a masterpiece). It's scaled from stuff like Life of Black Tiger (a clear 0/1 out of 10) to stuff like God of War. We just have a bias towards only talking about the games that fall on the higher end of the scale
Gta5 being 4th in the sales chart 11 years after release almost makes me want to laugh/cry. Is this where we are at? Its 11 years old. How is it the 4th best selling game in march 2024?
To further your question; how are CoD, GTA online, Minecraft, Apex and LoL as popular as they are for so long? I won’t call them “bad games” but, personally I have zero interest in the “spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, restart or break down and build stuff” gameplay with no story types of gameplay. I’m not trying to preach or be holier than anyone, but why are these games so popular? Even further, what draws VIEWERS to streams of these games over streams of games with really good stories? I know it’s all about my opinion, but I’ll never get it.
It's GTA what do you expect? GTA San Andreas and GTA IV were not much different from when they released until the next GTA came out. But also Minecraft exists and that's been one of the top selling games since it went to the 360 back in the day. Good games sell and great games sell eternally
The PSVR2 wouldnt be in this unfortunate situation if Sony didn't gate keep it to purely just be used with a PS5. Allowing it to be compatible with PC on day 1 would have benefited them alot more
Not only that, they barely advertised the PSVR2. If players on PS5 cannot even name a game on PSVR2, it’s not a consumer problem… they see no value in dropping $500 if there are no good games. 100% This would not have happened had we had Astro bot advertising PSVR2 everywhere with their own games exclusively on PSVR2
they didnt even make it backwards compatible with psvr1 games. the hardware is great, but the content is absent. But if they get pc support working I will buy one same day. I don't need a price drop, i need content.
@@Malisteen I 100% agree that is why I never picked up the vr2 cause I have a boat load of psvr1 games and if I got psvr2 I would have to hook up two vr headsets to play all my VR games. I would have paid a $10 upgrade fee to get my vr1 games on the vr2.
Uh, I would second that thought on dragons dogma. There’s no new game option so your stuck with 1 character forever, and over 40 dollars in microtransactions at launch, also frame rates are not better on pc, inconsistent.
Capcom had been doing the Day 1 microtransaction dump for the last few Monster Hunter games as well. You also have to purchase a voucher to change your characters appearance. Really obnoxious. People let them get away with it a bit more because they have some pretty big free updates in that series.
The microtransactions are useless. They've been doing this since DMC5. They offer nothing except an outlet for gamers who are lazy and have expendable income to avoid playing the game. It does nothing to anyone but yourself.
Crazy seeing all this psvr2 drama unfold as a psvr2 owner. I own more than 60 games on the device, my backlog is as big as my ps5s. And although I started with VR in 2016, my jaw still drops every time I walk into my psvr2 worlds. I know its an expensive device, but in the VR space its an incredibly cheap device for what you get. And this aside from the pc excitement. Really, if there's one thing that is worth complaining about when it comes to psvr2, its the sad sad absence of Dreams. That's the only thing I lament.
@@getsuckedd5685 have you played beat saber, pistol whip, Tetris effect, or Rez? What about the fisherman’s tale games? I ask because motion sickness depends on the game. If you’re still getting started games like the ones I mentioned are excellent and won’t give you motion sickness. Starting with them will get you more used to vr until you can handle more intense experiences. If you want more recommendations, search the psvr subreddit, plenty of posts on the topic there.
60 games? You must have some terrible games in your backlog. Plus you get “used” to be very quickly. You’re not “in a world” past the 2nd hour when your Brain knows it’s a game
@@Luis-rp2lm Sounds like you don’t know anything about psvr2, just parroting what you heard huh? Also, if you’re used to feeling you’re not in the VR world past the second hour, I’d hate to hear about your experience of playing flat games, seeing as they’re stuck on a small rectangle...
@@getsuckedd5685 I suggest going to the psvr subreddit and searching the sub for game lists for newcomers to VR. There’s a lot of games you can use to get your VR legs. Some quick suggestions (generally if your viewpoint doesn’t move a lot, you’ll be fine): pistol whip, beat saber, Thumper, Tetris effect, Rez infinite, the Fisherman’s tale 1 and 2, c smash, walkabout mini golf, The Room, Moss book 1 and 2, and paper beasts. These are all excellent games in their genres, and definitely won’t make you sick.
WRT the Bungie thing, if it's only senior management types that are leaving then that's a good thing. The real talent that Sony needs to keep are the teams actually making the games. Promotion from within once they get rid of the dead weight on top could be just what Bungie needs.
I love PSVR2, but where the hell is AstroBot? Where are the really great games that were on PSVR1. It all just seems like some shooters and horror games. I agree there are some good things, but damn.
I agree. It's not worth spending "this price here" amount of money unless those that really want to. I'm definitely going to hold on to next gen and see what we get.
@MysticRyan Hey, I’m a long time subscriber. Thanks for all the PS coverage over the years. I hope you’ll take a subtle critique/request constructively: I believe you need to process your audio to eliminate much of the plosives and sibilance. Unfortunately the audio has been kinda shrill for a while now. It’s the P and S sound. When it comes to talking about PlayStation, PSN, and PSSR, there’s quite a lot of plosives and sibilance. As an audio guy, I recommend you look into applying some post-processing to your sound before rendering to improve the quality of your videos. Another strategy would be to EQ differently or change your mic to something warmer and less harsh in the upper frequencies. For me at least, this would level up your videos greatly. I appreciate your effort and content, so I’ll keep subscribing, but please consider improving the audio processing. It could be a consistent part of your video production. Thanks.
As someone who has been developing for a mix of VR headsets over the last 2 years as a part of my education, I don't really see a viable future where these games become mainstream. There is just too much that is not in the favor of VR right now. From the current development tools and documentation not being the best to the accessibility of headsets from a cost and usability standpoint they just don't make a whole lot of sense for the majority. I don't personally own a VR headset for two reasons: I have bad vision and need to wear glasses and because of the realistic representation of depth in modern VR headsets, the image will be blurry without my glasses and I'll end up getting a headache. However, VR headsets are not designed for people with glasses, and the weight of the headset will end up resting on your glasses and digging into where they sit on your nose, if you can even get them to fit inside the headset. Either way, it's a very uncomfortable experience. The other reason for me is that in addition to this, I get motion sickness after 30 minutes in VR. This will happen for a lot of people, and at least in my case it has never been something that I have been able to adjust to. It's better when sitting down, but ultimately I'd say trying to play through games in 30 minute bursts is not a very good experience and I will always prefer to play the game on a normal screen every time.
Same here. I love the game experiences, but the nausea is real and the headset is both physically and psychologically uncomfortable. I can't really enjoy the game fully when I'm cognizant that my dogs could be underfoot, the cable might trip me at any moment, etc. It's just too unsettling being cut off from the world like that, especially when I'm standing up swinging around a beat saber.
You can get prescription lenses for your vr headset. That way you won’t need to wear glasses. About your short play sessions, I would recommend making sure you’ve eaten, are hydrated, and had decent rest. I can play over four hours per session, before I have to charge the sense controllers again, with my psvr2. I’ve been playing vr since 2018 with psvr and I only got uneasy in the beginning. Some games I did have to sit and that was fine.
The Bungie vs Sony fight is very believable, Bungie as an American studio and generally independent but agreed to be bought out doesn't mean they won't try to stay independent and can easily see that is causing strife between other studios and bungie, especially the entire point was to bring their expertise to other Sony studios and it really sounds like Bungie is doing everything not to do that, very disappointed in Bungie literally bungling this opportunity and also disappointed in Sony for not anticipating all these issues they should have taken over their board as soon as the buyout happened or tried to do so as early as possible
The whole problem is that Bungie can't even manage to stay afloat their own ship. Bungie wanting to stay independent isn't the problem. All Sony cares about with this deal is Bungie delivering on the expectations that were set forth at the time of the acquisition. How the hell are they going to help Sony if they can't even manage that?
Yeah to me it seems pretty clear it means they took the performance mode and got it to 1440p *using* PSSR, based on the wording. Which probably does make it look decent on a 4K screen. On PC if you go 1080p dlss up to 1440p on a 4K screen it looks soft but way better than just 1080p or 1080p with TAAU up to 4K, and better than FSR2 doing the same thing, since FSR2 struggles at resolutions that low.
So far i am loving my psvr2 but i think the lack of advertising and not having it on pc day one and only having one frist party game hurt it but it looks like the pc release isn't too far away as an update was just released getting it ready for pc release.
@@shadowtitan8545 I think when it comes to pc it will look cheap and it is a lot I think most pc headsets coast a lot more money so psvr2 will be on the lower end and don't forget about the eye tracking tech inside of it still a lot of money but that tech it is worth it there have been some games using all of its features.
The PSVR2 is SOOO much fun imo. I always have loads of fun when I pick it up to play it. Whether that be racing, a shooting game, or something silly. Sony NEEDS to work on their library tho, thats where it shows its ugly side. Good games dont get me wrong, just not many, and a good bit of shovelware in there. Id personally love to see BL2vr get a port over to VR2.. but not looking promising.
When I bought the psvr2, that was the first PlayStation hardware I bought outside of a ps console and if they give up on it, I’m never buying anything outside of a console for them again. I should have just learned from the past with all their other hardware failures but I didn’t. Lesson learned.
Bought a launch PSVR2 and sold it 4 months ago, the biggest thing for me was having watched loads of content, official trailers and stuff from streamers, the actual experience when you use it looks nothing like the quality I expected. Also I multitask a lot when gaming and VR is very isolating imo.
The catch 22 of the VR2 is obvious: no units moving because of costs and limited games, no games being made because of limited unit sales. One bridge to help cross this content gap would be: an SDK that lets developers easily re-map first person game controls. In particular, remapping the “look around” thumb stick to allow it to be controlled by head movements in the headset. Wouldn’t need to integrate all the motion controls of the PSVR2 Sense controller, you’d still play the game via a standard dual sense controller, but looking around would look around in the game. If this could even be done at the PS5 hardware level instead of a specific game level software update, would be even better. This would obviously leave the game not quite as good as a dedicated ground-up VR game, such as not seeing in-game hand movements matching your real life movements (like in creed) but would still be a significant experience enhancement. They could then advertise big name cross-platform releases as “PSVR 2 enhanced, only on PlayStation!” While the dedicated games that are built ground-up for VR would be “made for PSVR 2.” Or something similar.
@@Kushking_Kraven let me help you out. It is a long game. Took me 108 hrs to 90% most world map then main story. So if one want to rush to beat it before Dragon's dogman 2, he is gonna have bad time. 40% is the combat you love and some more from Remake. 10% cutscenes. 50% you play mini games. Many want to rush and didn't bother to learn (Queen's Blood, chocobo racing, shooting galleries, etc). But these mini games tie to story moments greatly. Many wants 1:1 remake to og in story. It's just not possible. Haters gonna hate. Ignore them. There is also PCMR crowd who will nitpick everything. "Oh my pc is just gonna run it so much better." They are bitter no day one pc release. And finally, there was a war going on for who's Cloud real love interest. Due to the plot purpose, the game has only one major story flow. This pissed off many fans from the opposing side. To me it was fantastic. Bc I am on the "right" team. And that final battle. Wow. Just wow.
@@Kushking_KravenI personally loved it, but I can see this one's ending being more divisive than Remake. Gameplay-wise, combat, side quests and stuff to do is all a massive improvement over Remake. In my opinion of course.
We need rdr 2 4k60 on ps5 pro is all i ask, dont need anything else tbh. Maybe thats why rockstar not updating rdr 2 for the ps5 cos that pssr is coming
Maybe sony wouldnt have to halt production on psvr 2 IF THEY WOULD LOWER THE FUCKING PRICE!!!! seriously they doomed that thing from the start with that absolutely insane price
It's that expensive because of the tech inside it. Do you think things like eye tracking is cheap? I don't think Sony is looking to lose 100+ dollars on every PSVR2 sold when its an accessory.
@@kevinkijowski5980 other gaming headsets are way cheaper and it only has horizon as their first party thing. Also, its not just the headset, you also need to buy a PS5 on top to even use it while other headsets work with PCs, the PS VR doesnt.
PSVR2 needs to be half the price of the base PS5 for a regular person, or a parent, to even consider it in today's economy. It's thst simple.... And games that aren't glorified tech demos would help too. And a wireless adapter, if that's even possible with the PS5s antenna. Maybe something for the PS5 pro?
The only VR game I’m really interested in is GT7, but to get the full experience I’d want a wheel, pedals, H-pattern shifter, a racing seat, and a rig to mount it all to. I don’t have the disposable income for that.
Guess it would take Xbox coming out with an Xbox VR before Sony considered just lowering the price, just like the 360 put the PS3's feet to the fire. They'd make the money back in games sales and PS+ inflated fees anyway
I don't understand the point of ps5 pro when they're still releasing most their games as cross gen. Would've been nice to get a couple years of actual ps5 power first.
We've got that now And the games have to run at 720p to have a chance of hitting 60 frames a second, The 720p image then gets passed to the FSR upscaler And the result is a blurry mess crossgen. with its older rendering techniques spoiled us
@@thelegandgamer2830 Persona 3 Reload just last month, Street Fighter 6, Resident Evil 4 remake, Resident Evil Village, Elden Ring, Armored Core 6, Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty, Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown, Foamstars, the upcoming Sand Land, the upcoming SaGa: Emerald Beyond, the upcoming Visions of Mana, the upcoming Metaphor: ReFantazio. I could go on. The fact that even 1st party games like Gran Turismo 7, Horizon: Forbidden West, and God of War: Ragnarok all were PS4 cross-gen games is embarrassing considering Sony led the PS5 messaging with "we believe in generations". No cross-gen 1st party games in 2023, but then again, Spider-man 2 was the ONLY 1st party game that year, wasn't it?
@cosmosofinfinity you really just mentioned 3rd party games that's up to those companies to decide to release on ps4 or not again just like my first comment the last 1st party game lunched on ps4 is gow ragnarok in 2022 every game after it is ps5 exclusive like burning shores dlc for horizon spider man 2 helldivers2 rise of the ronin the upcoming stellar blade and so on
A couple of things to clarify pertinent to PSVR 2 and also Bungie. I don’t think PSVR 2 is just meeting a bad market. It’s arriving to the market late for what it is. For $500, I can get a headset that can go with me anywhere without cables, and I can hook it up to a PC, or even stream to it from a PC, if I want a higher fidelity experience. PSVR 2 failed the moment it needed a cable to be played. If a PSVR 3 ever exists, Sony needs to have an all-in-one headset that can go places while also having the ability to hook up or stream from a console. I love VR, but I travel, and I don’t want to lug a PC or console with me in order to play. As for Bungie, there’s still room for them to advise Sony studios. That isn’t chalked, because really good talent still works there even after layoffs. Hell, even those who got laid off might even be in very low level talks with Sony in the chance that the board does get wiped. Sony needs the talent. They don’t need the execs, and just because execs scrap talent doesn’t mean that talent is gone forever.
I think the days of Bungie's legendary single-player FPS campaigns are firmly behind us, they're just not that studio any more. But my dream is that Sony will right the ship on their short-sighted leadership & live service monetization, then encourage them to at least keep ONE single-player project in the oven while they're maintaining the live services. Bungie still has the talent to make satisfying FPS gameplay when they're not chasing maximum greed, and Sony has the ability to turn single-player games into huge blockbuster sellers, so feels like a no-brainer to me.
For VR2, I really wish they'd expand to vr experiences. Something like learning, travel and so on. Learning about the solar system by travelling through it on vr would be awesome. I'm sure there would be a market for that. And well, also, I wish I could use vr without getting sick, but I guess that's a different kind of issue.
Regarding Vita (in context of PSVR2): Proprietary memory & low-to-no builtin memory killed The Vita IMHO. You had to buy Sony’s (expensive) memory card to have a worthwhile device. (I say this as a Vita fan/owner.) After years of use, my memory card just got corrupted & it’s still somewhat cost prohibitive to-this-day to replace it.
Love your takes but I think your being a little bit too kind about Sony not releasing 1st party psvr2 games. Was psvr2 ever going to be a massive seller no, but without any support from Sony it has no chance to be even a modest success.
Been a big fan of yours for some years now. been a sony fan my whole life from the ps3 to the ps4 to the ps5. Just bought my first ever PC. So its sad to say that i might not watch your stuff as much anymore but man you one of the OG ! keep making great content and u got a fan for life as far as i know!!
I wonder if Bungie advised on Helldivers. I kind of think they didn't, and I suspect the Factions 2 game was actually pretty good and they just gave bad advice.
Not really... I don't see anyone buying one by November 2024. good luck though. PSVR is dead and has been dead for a long time. By 2025 none will be sold anyway, might as well not sell them at all. Why bother?
It really is. 4k is already past the point of diminishing returns for any normal display, and the amount of resources required to get a modern game running at 8k is far beyond what a console can do this gen and the next. Upscaling could help but your just better off upscaling to 4k with 60-120fps and fancy graphics
I thought Sony should make games that have a VR mode, but can also be played without the headset. Like RE4 Remake and Village. This way they’re not losing sales by making a game specifically for the VR2.
I enjoy my vr2 almost everyday. Its 90% gran turismo racing with my wheel, and the other 10% is trying other vr stuff, and never really getting into it. But ive decicated this weekend, to playing green hell and some more no mans sky
One thing I think you can get custom images on the explore page is to get onto Google images (easiest way is to message a friend the url) and then find your picture there and screenshot it. I did it a while back to get a custom picture for my profile banner so don’t see why it wouldn’t work here as well?
It was the cost of the psvr2 that stopped its sales. If Sony had focused on PSVR2 with the PS5 pro & had Astrobot on PSVR2, it would have helped on multiple fronts.
ROFL Sonys New VR@ was fail on announcement. no reason to spend 600 on VR2 set when theres no content and the content they have still feels like generation 1 or most times worse.
Sony could invest in a company who can make hybrid VR ports of their flat screen PlayStation games. Similar to how though bought Nixxes to port their games to PC. Uncharted and Returnal could be so amazing. And those are in VR on PC through mods, so come on Sony let’s go!
They either invest "some more" in the product they themselves have put on the market to continue to make it more enticing or they may as well do what everyone seems to want and can the thing.@@garfunkle5447
My earlier reply was deleted for some reason. All I said was that Sony either needs to invest in the product they themselves put out on the market or they may as well do what so many seem to want and 'can' it.@@garfunkle5447
Ps5 “pro” not hitting 4k 60 on GTA6 is a joke the PCMR is going to stuff down our throats for years. Maybe PS6 might play it at 4k60. -PSVR2 is literally MORE expensive than a damn Ps5 in my region. Playstation in general is becoming a joke.
The best consumer grade gaming PCs out today wouldn’t be able to run GTA6 at 4k 60. The PSVR2 is the cheapest VR headset with its impressive specs. VR is just prohibitively expensive still for a lot of people
Based on the history of how bungie like to do with the job in hands, the best thing for bungie to do is to buy themselves out of sony and return to be an independent studio.
Still don't get these graphical comments about FF7 rebirth. I play in performance mode and it still looks amazing. I will be interested on what sales data is for March though considering it came out on 29th Feb.
FF VII Rebirth runs at Performance Mode is Square Enix fault. They used an old version of a problematic engine to developed the game. Seriously, imo there are much better looking opem World games already for the system.
I think Psvr2 PC support is sony giving up on funding games for VR. They are trying to get sales on whats left of the headset and move on. Shame they gave up too soon. It could have blown up VR in general. The few AAA titles they put out were great.
Sony needs to let people watch videos and movies in PSVR 2. The ability to play 360 TH-cam, 3D movies, and local 3D video files would go a long way. They need to make those apps happen on PS5, or at the very least, let these things happen with PC connectivity.
Psvr2 will be fine if they support it all the way to ps6 and ps6 pro.. this should be a two gen headset.. and only get an upgrade to cut the cord or make it more comfortable.. also hope that Flat2Vr changes the landscape
I don’t think the CPU is really holding anything back. Der8aur did a pretty good video on CPU bottlenecks about a year ago. A better CPU helps on lower res, sure. But on higher res, it’s not going to matter as much (like 1440p+). The GPU is going to drive better IQ and FPS far more than the CPU. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like Sony accounted for upgrading hardware when designing the OS or stipulating developer requirements for the console. So no automatic upgrades for older PS5 titles. Which is the biggest problem I see with the PS5 Pro. Relying on devs to patch for console upgrades was proven to be a losing proposition last console generation.
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PS5 Pro: "I can do 120fps at 4k."
Game devs: "Cool! We can barely do 1080p at 60fps due to time constraints."
It's the extremely relatively low-powered CPU that are in the consoles
balance between CPU and GPU in PS4 and PS5 error is heavily rigged towards the GPU
That's why there's so little world simulation in games these days
And CPU heavy games struggle with frame rate
True, developers will always optimize to the hardware. No matter how powerful it gets the performance will remain the same.
@@chrisc_1012the CPU has been bottlenecking GPUs since forever. This is especially true in most recent years, even if these consoles had high end CPUs, that still wouldn't make 60fps just work in every game. Just look at the situation with Dragon's Dogma 2 even on PC.
@@jdbarrera Developers will always optimize towards 30 fps and screenshots, because youtube is mostly 30 fps and screenshots sell games. People that care or even know what 4k over 60 fps (that can even hook that to a tv, most will have hdmi1.4) is the lower percentage, and not worth doing the work for
I don’t get it 😅 cyber punk looks and runs better than 99% of new gen games. And the world is more complicated than them. Don’t tell me it’s not possible.
I feel like this "8k" is just a marketing thing, let us just have a steady 60FPS at 4k.
8K is just a gimmick. You can’t even tell it apart from 4K. It’s just Sony trying to sell their 8K TVs.
8k is BS. Not even over $600 PC GPU can achive 8k at 60fps.😅
@@jonathanrivera8585 The inability to achieve it isn't even the main issue - the main issue is that at normal viewing distances relative to screen size, 8K is not even perceptibly different to 4K. So what's the point in wasting the performance there on literally nothing when you could push towards 120 fps, or even just save some power? The only situation where 8K makes sense is something like VR or 3D displays (since 3D effectively cuts the perceived resolution in half AFAIK)
It's so ridiculous I had to laugh. 4K isn't even the norm yet, tell me one game that does native 4K60fps? Even on PC that's hard, it takes upscalers to do that job, it still feels like a big deal when a game can do upscaled 4K60fps, 8K my ass lmao, and I doubt 8K is even worth it anyway, that's like saying a game runs at 500fps, when your eye can't even make a difference after 120fps or whatever.
They could've standardized 1080p 60 fps and 1440p 60 fos but whoa, higher resolution is still the way to go (8k *cough* cough*)
The Bungie I knew and loved died after Halo Reach.
No they didn’t they live on ..
@@jeffreygranda9815 nah
Destiny 1 was great.
@@Gummibri Destiny 1 at launch was a disaster. No content, poor online features, poor voice acting, insulting storytelling, etc. The only thing Destiny 1 had going for it at launch was great gunplay. They had to climb their way out of that ditch with multiple paid expansions and an eventual sequel.
At least they didn't turn into what halo has under 343i. I'd play a million destiny 1/2s before I play any halo made by 343i again
Better 3 years late than never. Finally they're adding a lot of the basic features from the PS4 UI into the PS5 UI
its been 4 years and Sony is a disgrace
They have been under-delivering for 3 years to 4 years on the software side of things for far too long @@IISourAyyII
What’s even worse is Xbox has been on this shit for years before the PS4 😂
@@nicholasnajibi3082 nobody cares fanboy
i do i hate that it took them years to update, i loved being able to use themes and wallpapers , sony is a disgrace on multiple fronts and i am a ps5 user and never owned xbox@@sandwhichbag
I think I'm going to hold on to my launch ps5 until next gen.
I barely have any games for it anyway, so I’m doing the same.
I just wish there were more games that used the adaptive triggers. Like yeah framerate and resolution are important but the only game ive experienced, and barely because I had already beaten it by the time the update for it came out I think, was cyberpunk. Not being able to feel that resistance is just a huge bummer, like visceral, to me.
Regarding PSVR2, they should have released more hybrid games like GT and the Resident Evil games. Much cheaper to adjust a game for PSVR2 than to make a new one. They could even go back to an older Killzone or Resistance and it would be very cool.
Psvr 2 resistance 64 player vr mode would 👌 😅 be like a French kiss to vr
You’re right! Cheaper price and a small dev team to port older classics would be a great.
The vita was Sony's fault by making its expandable storage massively overpriced.
Sony don't learn from their mistakes.
This. If it used microSD cards, we would probably be having a different conversation about it.
And the Original Vita used its own proprietary charge cable instead of your everyday USB like the slimmer V.2 Vita. Very smart on Sony’s end!
i agree with you my friend
Yup. $100 for 32 GB storage IIRC...
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The PS5 pro is cool, but I’ve got no desire to spend another $600+ on a new console till the PS6 honestly.
I believe the PS5 PRO to be mainly intended for people like me , who have a ps4 pro and skipped the ps5. Not for people who already have a ps5.
Dosnt have to be 600+ dollars if you just sell your old PS5 and pay the difference!
@@Wystimpy18 gotta get someone to buy it first! But I’m not in a rush, building my PC in April, only missing my card, ssd/storage, and ram! Case, motherboard, cpu etc all in and ready to go. Going to keep my base ps5 likely and just wait for a ps6 (if enticing enough) or wait for a ps6 pro
Plus, it doesn't make sense that ps5 wasn't available on launch. We had to wait very long to get our hands on it, so the pro model is stupid.
@@MonkeyDLuffy-sv2pt exactly, if I had the option to spend an extra $100-150 on launch day for a pro version, I’d have done it right there and then, but seeing as it’s 4.5 years into the cycle it’s just kinda frustrating
Can someone please develop a user interface that isn't Netflix
I doubt very much I'm alone in this, but as soon as PC support is rolled out for PSVR 2 (and it's robust) I'm grabbing one. I want the PS games for it, it's where I'll play most games, but I want to benefit from Steam sales and library too.
the bungie aquisition never made sense to me in the first place
Digital Foundry don't really have all of the details of the PS5 Pro. They are speculating. They don't even know what implementation the GPU is. They only know that the GPU is clocked lower in certain situations.
To be fair, we are all guessing. We won’t know how good/bad PS5 Pro will be until it’s in the wild. Predicting can be fun though.
But I agree with your sentiment.
You must know more than them right? The shitstation 5 pro is not gonna be a 4090 ok buddy. Not even a 3090 so deal with it Sony troll.
@@edgarrubalcava7597 your bias is pathetic. I'm only pointing out the obvious.
@@robertlawrence9000i don’t consider DF a reliable source. They said about “A Plague Tale: Requiem” that it was impossible to run on consoles, then the update came and they were suddenly impressed. I’ll believe it when we’ll see it.
I'm still baffled that they didn't add themes as a default from the beginning of the PS5
We spent a whole generation collecting really good and creative themes in the PS4 era just for them to ditch them
PS4 didn't have themes for the first few years and that was following the PS3 which also didn't have themes for the first few years. Hopefully that means they'll come eventually
I’m still baffled that they ‘still’ haven’t added themes as a default nearly 3.5 years on.
I don't understand why people care about themes so much
The ps4 ditched the ps3 themes and it took years for it to come to ps4. If all the themes carries over between generations it would be very limiting to what the new interface can be
Imagine being used to never having any game releases on the PS five to the point you’re waiting for themes. 😂
I don't care about the PS5 Pro but, I would love to see if they can implement PSSR to the base PS5. I think this would help a lot of current games.
This machine has to run games natively 60 fps first and foremost. If not then there's honestly no point of this machine. Fps should be first priority no excuses. Resolution is not as important.
For most people Graphics sell games not fps
@@sacjohnson1
Most people can’t tell the difference between 4K & 8K
At some point you get diminishing returns with resolution.
@@ey1615 they said graphics, not resolutions.
Anything over 30FPS is a meme. I refuse to believe that this isn't some inside joke that I never got.
@@sacjohnson1uh no? The games already look phenomenal. What a lot don’t do is run well
FF7 rebirth is on the NA charts twice. The twin pack that come with remake too is number 8.
What you say about rise of the ronin and its score is a general problem with gaming metascores nowadays. We have a possible rating of 0 to 100 and everything unter 70 is considered "bad", 70 to 80 is "ok" and only things over 80 are "good". That 0 to 70 span is so huge and yes, games below 70 can also be fun and enjoyable. But of course, potentially fun games are oftentimes not given a chance, just because they got a rating around 70.
Who actually cares about review scores. I’m more interested in hearing what reviewers have to say about a game than a number that tells you nothing
To be fair, part of it is also people accounting for review inflation. Given the meme that any old piece of drek can get a 9.0 from IGN, people naturally assume that for a game to rank below 80, it must be pretty bad.
Or, perhaps more generously, the competition in the market is so intense, with so many good games (and such high backlogs) that people just don't consider anything "mid" to be worth 40+ hours of scarce free time, when they haven't even got around to finishing Elden Ring yet.
Keep in mind that the review scale is not scaled from something like Suicide Squad (a decidedly mid 5/6 out of 10 game) to God of War 2018 (a masterpiece). It's scaled from stuff like Life of Black Tiger (a clear 0/1 out of 10) to stuff like God of War. We just have a bias towards only talking about the games that fall on the higher end of the scale
Stop coping..you ponies don’t have that same energy with Xbox scores
Rise of Rosin got a 76 it’s a trash game. Starfield and its 83 is a great game
Gta5 being 4th in the sales chart 11 years after release almost makes me want to laugh/cry. Is this where we are at?
Its 11 years old. How is it the 4th best selling game in march 2024?
Sweet baby inc
wait for gta6. thats gonna be topseller through the whole of 2025 and probably 10-15 years onwards
To further your question; how are CoD, GTA online, Minecraft, Apex and LoL as popular as they are for so long? I won’t call them “bad games” but, personally I have zero interest in the “spawn, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, restart or break down and build stuff” gameplay with no story types of gameplay. I’m not trying to preach or be holier than anyone, but why are these games so popular?
Even further, what draws VIEWERS to streams of these games over streams of games with really good stories? I know it’s all about my opinion, but I’ll never get it.
It's GTA what do you expect?
GTA San Andreas and GTA IV were not much different from when they released until the next GTA came out.
But also Minecraft exists and that's been one of the top selling games since it went to the 360 back in the day.
Good games sell and great games sell eternally
Gamers aren’t very adventurous or original, in general. 😂
The PSVR2 wouldnt be in this unfortunate situation if Sony didn't gate keep it to purely just be used with a PS5. Allowing it to be compatible with PC on day 1 would have benefited them alot more
Not only that, they barely advertised the PSVR2. If players on PS5 cannot even name a game on PSVR2, it’s not a consumer problem… they see no value in dropping $500 if there are no good games. 100% This would not have happened had we had Astro bot advertising PSVR2 everywhere with their own games exclusively on PSVR2
@@cloudyOso Thats a good point, I agree
they didnt even make it backwards compatible with psvr1 games. the hardware is great, but the content is absent. But if they get pc support working I will buy one same day. I don't need a price drop, i need content.
@@Malisteen I 100% agree that is why I never picked up the vr2 cause I have a boat load of psvr1 games and if I got psvr2 I would have to hook up two vr headsets to play all my VR games. I would have paid a $10 upgrade fee to get my vr1 games on the vr2.
I enjoyed my psvr2 but it really comes down to hassle for me. I rarely feel like setting it all up just to make myself sick to my stomach.
Uh, I would second that thought on dragons dogma. There’s no new game option so your stuck with 1 character forever, and over 40 dollars in microtransactions at launch, also frame rates are not better on pc, inconsistent.
You might wanna fact check this comment.
@@ToxModyou might want to fact check also..
You might wanna stop shilling for greedy ass game devs.@@ToxMod
Capcom had been doing the Day 1 microtransaction dump for the last few Monster Hunter games as well. You also have to purchase a voucher to change your characters appearance.
Really obnoxious. People let them get away with it a bit more because they have some pretty big free updates in that series.
The microtransactions are useless. They've been doing this since DMC5. They offer nothing except an outlet for gamers who are lazy and have expendable income to avoid playing the game. It does nothing to anyone but yourself.
Crazy seeing all this psvr2 drama unfold as a psvr2 owner. I own more than 60 games on the device, my backlog is as big as my ps5s. And although I started with VR in 2016, my jaw still drops every time I walk into my psvr2 worlds. I know its an expensive device, but in the VR space its an incredibly cheap device for what you get. And this aside from the pc excitement. Really, if there's one thing that is worth complaining about when it comes to psvr2, its the sad sad absence of Dreams. That's the only thing I lament.
I have PSVR2 as well, I liked it at first but now it gets dust cause every game that releases makes me nauseous
@@getsuckedd5685 have you played beat saber, pistol whip, Tetris effect, or Rez? What about the fisherman’s tale games? I ask because motion sickness depends on the game. If you’re still getting started games like the ones I mentioned are excellent and won’t give you motion sickness. Starting with them will get you more used to vr until you can handle more intense experiences. If you want more recommendations, search the psvr subreddit, plenty of posts on the topic there.
60 games? You must have some terrible games in your backlog. Plus you get “used” to be very quickly. You’re not “in a world” past the 2nd hour when your Brain knows it’s a game
@@Luis-rp2lm
Sounds like you don’t know anything about psvr2, just parroting what you heard huh? Also, if you’re used to feeling you’re not in the VR world past the second hour, I’d hate to hear about your experience of playing flat games, seeing as they’re stuck on a small rectangle...
@@getsuckedd5685 I suggest going to the psvr subreddit and searching the sub for game lists for newcomers to VR. There’s a lot of games you can use to get your VR legs. Some quick suggestions (generally if your viewpoint doesn’t move a lot, you’ll be fine): pistol whip, beat saber, Thumper, Tetris effect, Rez infinite, the Fisherman’s tale 1 and 2, c smash, walkabout mini golf, The Room, Moss book 1 and 2, and paper beasts. These are all excellent games in their genres, and definitely won’t make you sick.
WRT the Bungie thing, if it's only senior management types that are leaving then that's a good thing. The real talent that Sony needs to keep are the teams actually making the games. Promotion from within once they get rid of the dead weight on top could be just what Bungie needs.
Man do you put in some serious work with these uploads. Thanks man.
I love PSVR2, but where the hell is AstroBot? Where are the really great games that were on PSVR1. It all just seems like some shooters and horror games. I agree there are some good things, but damn.
PSVR2 is fun as hell
😂😂
@@MarcusM334?
It’s just not a big enough leap for me to get a PS5 Pro. Just gonna wait for the next generation
I agree. It's not worth spending "this price here" amount of money unless those that really want to. I'm definitely going to hold on to next gen and see what we get.
I love how you have a different adjective for the beginning of each episode😂
@MysticRyan Hey, I’m a long time subscriber. Thanks for all the PS coverage over the years. I hope you’ll take a subtle critique/request constructively: I believe you need to process your audio to eliminate much of the plosives and sibilance. Unfortunately the audio has been kinda shrill for a while now. It’s the P and S sound. When it comes to talking about PlayStation, PSN, and PSSR, there’s quite a lot of plosives and sibilance. As an audio guy, I recommend you look into applying some post-processing to your sound before rendering to improve the quality of your videos. Another strategy would be to EQ differently or change your mic to something warmer and less harsh in the upper frequencies. For me at least, this would level up your videos greatly. I appreciate your effort and content, so I’ll keep subscribing, but please consider improving the audio processing. It could be a consistent part of your video production. Thanks.
As someone who has been developing for a mix of VR headsets over the last 2 years as a part of my education, I don't really see a viable future where these games become mainstream. There is just too much that is not in the favor of VR right now. From the current development tools and documentation not being the best to the accessibility of headsets from a cost and usability standpoint they just don't make a whole lot of sense for the majority.
I don't personally own a VR headset for two reasons:
I have bad vision and need to wear glasses and because of the realistic representation of depth in modern VR headsets, the image will be blurry without my glasses and I'll end up getting a headache. However, VR headsets are not designed for people with glasses, and the weight of the headset will end up resting on your glasses and digging into where they sit on your nose, if you can even get them to fit inside the headset. Either way, it's a very uncomfortable experience.
The other reason for me is that in addition to this, I get motion sickness after 30 minutes in VR. This will happen for a lot of people, and at least in my case it has never been something that I have been able to adjust to. It's better when sitting down, but ultimately I'd say trying to play through games in 30 minute bursts is not a very good experience and I will always prefer to play the game on a normal screen every time.
Same here. I love the game experiences, but the nausea is real and the headset is both physically and psychologically uncomfortable. I can't really enjoy the game fully when I'm cognizant that my dogs could be underfoot, the cable might trip me at any moment, etc. It's just too unsettling being cut off from the world like that, especially when I'm standing up swinging around a beat saber.
You can get prescription lenses for your vr headset. That way you won’t need to wear glasses. About your short play sessions, I would recommend making sure you’ve eaten, are hydrated, and had decent rest. I can play over four hours per session, before I have to charge the sense controllers again, with my psvr2. I’ve been playing vr since 2018 with psvr and I only got uneasy in the beginning. Some games I did have to sit and that was fine.
@@Cryptic0013Do you run around? I’ve never had a problem with the cord.
@@Cryptic0013mixed reality might better suit you. I’ve never used a quest headset but I hear quest 3 is pretty decent for that.
DD2 is getting slammed with bad reviews on Steam.
Good. Game looks mid asf.
It's chock-full of MTX! Deserves bad reviews.
People wonder why companies wait to add micro transactions after a game’s launch. This is why
@@cosmancho2959looks like someone never played it
Game just runs like dogwater, even worse on consoles, prolly gets a patch for performance next month
The Bungie vs Sony fight is very believable, Bungie as an American studio and generally independent but agreed to be bought out doesn't mean they won't try to stay independent and can easily see that is causing strife between other studios and bungie, especially the entire point was to bring their expertise to other Sony studios and it really sounds like Bungie is doing everything not to do that, very disappointed in Bungie literally bungling this opportunity and also disappointed in Sony for not anticipating all these issues they should have taken over their board as soon as the buyout happened or tried to do so as early as possible
The problem is they're delivering jack shit . Destiny is dead marathon doesn't seem to be a gem either.
The whole problem is that Bungie can't even manage to stay afloat their own ship. Bungie wanting to stay independent isn't the problem. All Sony cares about with this deal is Bungie delivering on the expectations that were set forth at the time of the acquisition. How the hell are they going to help Sony if they can't even manage that?
it honestly looks so amateurish for sony to even let this possibility happen in a contract. They'll never allow this again in future acquisitions.
@@Duke6598 Thanks Jim Ryan !
So I took the 1080p -60fps game that is now a 1440p 60fps game as a boost to Fidelity...not Performance. By default the performance didn't change.
Yeah to me it seems pretty clear it means they took the performance mode and got it to 1440p *using* PSSR, based on the wording. Which probably does make it look decent on a 4K screen. On PC if you go 1080p dlss up to 1440p on a 4K screen it looks soft but way better than just 1080p or 1080p with TAAU up to 4K, and better than FSR2 doing the same thing, since FSR2 struggles at resolutions that low.
…. Yeah? It increased the fidelity while maintaining frame rate.
So far i am loving my psvr2 but i think the lack of advertising and not having it on pc day one and only having one frist party game hurt it but it looks like the pc release isn't too far away as an update was just released getting it ready for pc release.
Facts
Same. Love my PSVR2 to death.
People still don't know 🤷 vr exist 😅 lol
And it's expensive as hell
@@shadowtitan8545 I think when it comes to pc it will look cheap and it is a lot I think most pc headsets coast a lot more money so psvr2 will be on the lower end and don't forget about the eye tracking tech inside of it still a lot of money but that tech it is worth it there have been some games using all of its features.
Bloodborne enthusiasts: ‘So you’re telling me there’s a chance’
Heard remake was coming I don't like blood borne myself but did hear of a remake but could have been 🐂 💩
The PSVR2 is SOOO much fun imo. I always have loads of fun when I pick it up to play it. Whether that be racing, a shooting game, or something silly. Sony NEEDS to work on their library tho, thats where it shows its ugly side. Good games dont get me wrong, just not many, and a good bit of shovelware in there. Id personally love to see BL2vr get a port over to VR2.. but not looking promising.
When I bought the psvr2, that was the first PlayStation hardware I bought outside of a ps console and if they give up on it, I’m never buying anything outside of a console for them again. I should have just learned from the past with all their other hardware failures but I didn’t. Lesson learned.
Too expensive too
Bought a launch PSVR2 and sold it 4 months ago, the biggest thing for me was having watched loads of content, official trailers and stuff from streamers, the actual experience when you use it looks nothing like the quality I expected. Also I multitask a lot when gaming and VR is very isolating imo.
The catch 22 of the VR2 is obvious: no units moving because of costs and limited games, no games being made because of limited unit sales.
One bridge to help cross this content gap would be: an SDK that lets developers easily re-map first person game controls. In particular, remapping the “look around” thumb stick to allow it to be controlled by head movements in the headset. Wouldn’t need to integrate all the motion controls of the PSVR2 Sense controller, you’d still play the game via a standard dual sense controller, but looking around would look around in the game. If this could even be done at the PS5 hardware level instead of a specific game level software update, would be even better. This would obviously leave the game not quite as good as a dedicated ground-up VR game, such as not seeing in-game hand movements matching your real life movements (like in creed) but would still be a significant experience enhancement.
They could then advertise big name cross-platform releases as “PSVR 2 enhanced, only on PlayStation!” While the dedicated games that are built ground-up for VR would be “made for PSVR 2.” Or something similar.
Just beat FF7 Rebirth last night. Haven't recovered from that ending.
Is rebirth worth it for real tho I keep hearing shit reviews I liked the remake but it could be better did they do that for rebirth
@@Kushking_Kraven let me help you out. It is a long game. Took me 108 hrs to 90% most world map then main story. So if one want to rush to beat it before Dragon's dogman 2, he is gonna have bad time. 40% is the combat you love and some more from Remake. 10% cutscenes. 50% you play mini games. Many want to rush and didn't bother to learn (Queen's Blood, chocobo racing, shooting galleries, etc). But these mini games tie to story moments greatly.
Many wants 1:1 remake to og in story. It's just not possible. Haters gonna hate. Ignore them.
There is also PCMR crowd who will nitpick everything. "Oh my pc is just gonna run it so much better." They are bitter no day one pc release.
And finally, there was a war going on for who's Cloud real love interest. Due to the plot purpose, the game has only one major story flow. This pissed off many fans from the opposing side. To me it was fantastic. Bc I am on the "right" team. And that final battle. Wow. Just wow.
@@Kushking_KravenI personally loved it, but I can see this one's ending being more divisive than Remake. Gameplay-wise, combat, side quests and stuff to do is all a massive improvement over Remake. In my opinion of course.
Is there still Whispers bullshit? That's all I want to know
@@cosmosofinfinity there is most definitely, they make sure the plot keeps following the original.
PSSR will be pretty awesome
It will probably look better than newly announced FSR 3.1 since it still won't use AI unlike PSSR.
We need rdr 2 4k60 on ps5 pro is all i ask, dont need anything else tbh. Maybe thats why rockstar not updating rdr 2 for the ps5 cos that pssr is coming
Maybe sony wouldnt have to halt production on psvr 2 IF THEY WOULD LOWER THE FUCKING PRICE!!!!
seriously they doomed that thing from the start with that absolutely insane price
It's that expensive because of the tech inside it. Do you think things like eye tracking is cheap? I don't think Sony is looking to lose 100+ dollars on every PSVR2 sold when its an accessory.
@@kevinkijowski5980 other gaming headsets are way cheaper and it only has horizon as their first party thing.
Also, its not just the headset, you also need to buy a PS5 on top to even use it while other headsets work with PCs, the PS VR doesnt.
Or made some games for it
price and games 100%
And no 3rd party games for it. It was dead in the water from the start.
Thing I don't get is why there is not more colour ways for the duel sense edge isn't that one of there best selling products?
PSVR2 has no 3D Bluray support. No native app to watch 3D or VR content. No wonder!
I'm interested that PSSR cant be backported to older games. Playing old favorites with a new coat of paint and raytracing would be a dream.
PSVR2 needs to be half the price of the base PS5 for a regular person, or a parent, to even consider it in today's economy. It's thst simple.... And games that aren't glorified tech demos would help too. And a wireless adapter, if that's even possible with the PS5s antenna. Maybe something for the PS5 pro?
The only VR game I’m really interested in is GT7, but to get the full experience I’d want a wheel, pedals, H-pattern shifter, a racing seat, and a rig to mount it all to. I don’t have the disposable income for that.
From what I read wifi wasn't an option for ps5 if they wanted the resolution they were targeting. Obviously no clue about a 5 pro
In 2024, companies will report about a halt on production but will NOT push for a price reduction. Educate me why.
They want your money
Guess it would take Xbox coming out with an Xbox VR before Sony considered just lowering the price, just like the 360 put the PS3's feet to the fire. They'd make the money back in games sales and PS+ inflated fees anyway
Drop VR2 $100 and I’m in. I just don’t trust myself to stick with it. I only bust out the Quest 2 the few times a year we have people over.
Seeing aztecross mentioned in a mystic video is a crazy crossover for me lmao
sony needs to make half life alyx quailty games for psvr2 for it to be a must buy
I don't understand the point of ps5 pro when they're still releasing most their games as cross gen. Would've been nice to get a couple years of actual ps5 power first.
We've got that now
And the games have to run at 720p to have a chance of hitting 60 frames a second, The 720p image then gets passed to the FSR upscaler And the result is a blurry mess
crossgen. with its older rendering techniques spoiled us
What cross gen games are released nowadays the last 1st party game the ps4 got is gow ragnarok in 2022
@@thelegandgamer2830 Persona 3 Reload just last month, Street Fighter 6, Resident Evil 4 remake, Resident Evil Village, Elden Ring, Armored Core 6, Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty, Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown, Foamstars, the upcoming Sand Land, the upcoming SaGa: Emerald Beyond, the upcoming Visions of Mana, the upcoming Metaphor: ReFantazio. I could go on.
The fact that even 1st party games like Gran Turismo 7, Horizon: Forbidden West, and God of War: Ragnarok all were PS4 cross-gen games is embarrassing considering Sony led the PS5 messaging with "we believe in generations". No cross-gen 1st party games in 2023, but then again, Spider-man 2 was the ONLY 1st party game that year, wasn't it?
@cosmosofinfinity
you really just mentioned 3rd party games that's up to those companies to decide to release on ps4 or not again just like my first comment the last 1st party game lunched on ps4 is gow ragnarok in 2022 every game after it is ps5 exclusive like burning shores dlc for horizon spider man 2 helldivers2 rise of the ronin the upcoming stellar blade and so on
I cannot understand not being able to use screenshots from games for the background of the game. How is it not a thing?
Why is the explore tab exclusive to the US in the first place?
A couple of things to clarify pertinent to PSVR 2 and also Bungie.
I don’t think PSVR 2 is just meeting a bad market. It’s arriving to the market late for what it is.
For $500, I can get a headset that can go with me anywhere without cables, and I can hook it up to a PC, or even stream to it from a PC, if I want a higher fidelity experience.
PSVR 2 failed the moment it needed a cable to be played. If a PSVR 3 ever exists, Sony needs to have an all-in-one headset that can go places while also having the ability to hook up or stream from a console.
I love VR, but I travel, and I don’t want to lug a PC or console with me in order to play.
As for Bungie, there’s still room for them to advise Sony studios. That isn’t chalked, because really good talent still works there even after layoffs.
Hell, even those who got laid off might even be in very low level talks with Sony in the chance that the board does get wiped. Sony needs the talent. They don’t need the execs, and just because execs scrap talent doesn’t mean that talent is gone forever.
That PSVR2 Bloomberg article is the most "tell me you are funded by Meta without telling me you are funded Meta" article I have ever read.
I think the days of Bungie's legendary single-player FPS campaigns are firmly behind us, they're just not that studio any more. But my dream is that Sony will right the ship on their short-sighted leadership & live service monetization, then encourage them to at least keep ONE single-player project in the oven while they're maintaining the live services. Bungie still has the talent to make satisfying FPS gameplay when they're not chasing maximum greed, and Sony has the ability to turn single-player games into huge blockbuster sellers, so feels like a no-brainer to me.
I guess this was recorded on Thursday since you didn’t really touch on one of the week’s biggest stories which was the Dragons Dogma 2 launch debacle.
I like kepler's speculation that the Pro's CPU clock speed has more to do with future proofing backwards compatibility.
Did Melissa do zoomies on your arm? Ouch haha
For VR2, I really wish they'd expand to vr experiences. Something like learning, travel and so on. Learning about the solar system by travelling through it on vr would be awesome. I'm sure there would be a market for that.
And well, also, I wish I could use vr without getting sick, but I guess that's a different kind of issue.
I want that explore thing. Solo and focused is my thing.
Regarding Vita (in context of PSVR2):
Proprietary memory & low-to-no builtin memory killed The Vita IMHO.
You had to buy Sony’s (expensive) memory card to have a worthwhile device.
(I say this as a Vita fan/owner.)
After years of use, my memory card just got corrupted & it’s still somewhat cost prohibitive to-this-day to replace it.
Can you:
- view an image from USB
- take a screenshot using the PS5 UI
- then use that screenshot as the Explore background?
Extremely underrated. This guy puts so much effort and professionalism into all of his videos
Wait, where are the ratings at?
And after that it will be PSSD (PlayStation Spectral Super Developers) where many will be too PSSD to understand what that even means.
Mystic and Terrell should do a podcast honestly
Love your takes but I think your being a little bit too kind about Sony not releasing 1st party psvr2 games. Was psvr2 ever going to be a massive seller no, but without any support from Sony it has no chance to be even a modest success.
Been a big fan of yours for some years now. been a sony fan my whole life from the ps3 to the ps4 to the ps5. Just bought my first ever PC. So its sad to say that i might not watch your stuff as much anymore but man you one of the OG ! keep making great content and u got a fan for life as far as i know!!
Hot take: PS5 pro will be a backward compatible powerhouse with hardware PS3/2/1 emulation and card slots for vita games. A boy can dream.
Hot take: no
😂 Sony can't make money on making your dreams come true, but you can rebuy your old library digitally for a very reasonable price.
No.
I'm buying a Ps5 pro, can't wait.
I wonder if Bungie advised on Helldivers. I kind of think they didn't, and I suspect the Factions 2 game was actually pretty good and they just gave bad advice.
I think we have to save money for the 30th anniversary console and merch.
Why is this still not available in the uk? I remember them talking this feature up before launch and I’ve been waiting for it ever since
PS5 Pro gonna be great for PSVR2!!!
Not really... I don't see anyone buying one by November 2024. good luck though. PSVR is dead and has been dead for a long time. By 2025 none will be sold anyway, might as well not sell them at all. Why bother?
I think I’d rather buy an 8k 120 tv instead of a ps5 pro I want to be ready for the actually upgrade when it comes out hahaha
8k is a gimmick.
It really is. 4k is already past the point of diminishing returns for any normal display, and the amount of resources required to get a modern game running at 8k is far beyond what a console can do this gen and the next. Upscaling could help but your just better off upscaling to 4k with 60-120fps and fancy graphics
Don't worry, the PS5 Pro nor the PS6 will do 8K
Hope a system level gyroscope motion aiming software get implemented in the next major firmware update
PSVR2's failure is due in a large part to its lack of backwards compatibility with PSVR1 titles. I would have bought it Day 1 if it had that.
I would've liked a cordless headset as well.
I thought Sony should make games that have a VR mode, but can also be played without the headset. Like RE4 Remake and Village. This way they’re not losing sales by making a game specifically for the VR2.
I enjoy my vr2 almost everyday. Its 90% gran turismo racing with my wheel, and the other 10% is trying other vr stuff, and never really getting into it. But ive decicated this weekend, to playing green hell and some more no mans sky
It's dope to here "Dragon's Dogma 2nd Rise of the Ronin is doing well. I can't wait to pick them in a few weeks.
Why is the Explore page limited to US???
Apparently it has ads. Not allowed outside US. I saw a YT article about it. I'm in UK and would rather not have it if it comes with ads.
One thing I think you can get custom images on the explore page is to get onto Google images (easiest way is to message a friend the url) and then find your picture there and screenshot it. I did it a while back to get a custom picture for my profile banner so don’t see why it wouldn’t work here as well?
The FF7 Rebirth patch added a bug making the game impossible to platinum. Chapter 12 quest is impossible to complete.
Bro, I NEEED that shirt! 😲
It was the cost of the psvr2 that stopped its sales.
If Sony had focused on PSVR2 with the PS5 pro & had Astrobot on PSVR2, it would have helped on multiple fronts.
4K 60 was supposed to be achieved with the base ps5. I don’t see the pro doing 8k 30. I will be surprised is it does 4K 60
4k gaming was a lie, glad i still game on my old 1080p tv. 4k tv owners wasted their money
ROFL Sonys New VR@ was fail on announcement.
no reason to spend 600 on VR2 set when theres no content and the content they have still feels like generation 1 or most times worse.
Sony could invest in a company who can make hybrid VR ports of their flat screen PlayStation games. Similar to how though bought Nixxes to port their games to PC. Uncharted and Returnal could be so amazing. And those are in VR on PC through mods, so come on Sony let’s go!
With Sony making lots of cutbacks, you want them to invest in VR some more? VR2 is an expensive product.
They either invest "some more" in the product they themselves have put on the market to continue to make it more enticing or they may as well do what everyone seems to want and can the thing.@@garfunkle5447
My earlier reply was deleted for some reason. All I said was that Sony either needs to invest in the product they themselves put out on the market or they may as well do what so many seem to want and 'can' it.@@garfunkle5447
Hope that UI update comes to the UK.
Ps5 “pro” not hitting 4k 60 on GTA6 is a joke the PCMR is going to stuff down our throats for years.
Maybe PS6 might play it at 4k60.
-PSVR2 is literally MORE expensive than a damn Ps5 in my region.
Playstation in general is becoming a joke.
The best consumer grade gaming PCs out today wouldn’t be able to run GTA6 at 4k 60. The PSVR2 is the cheapest VR headset with its impressive specs. VR is just prohibitively expensive still for a lot of people
I missed Dana Carvey. Glad to see he's doing well!
Based on the history of how bungie like to do with the job in hands, the best thing for bungie to do is to buy themselves out of sony and return to be an independent studio.
Still don't get these graphical comments about FF7 rebirth. I play in performance mode and it still looks amazing.
I will be interested on what sales data is for March though considering it came out on 29th Feb.
FF VII Rebirth runs at Performance Mode is Square Enix fault. They used an old version of a problematic engine to developed the game. Seriously, imo there are much better looking opem World games already for the system.
I think Psvr2 PC support is sony giving up on funding games for VR. They are trying to get sales on whats left of the headset and move on. Shame they gave up too soon. It could have blown up VR in general. The few AAA titles they put out were great.
6:12 Oh yes! Mystic watches PuertoRock! 😁
Is he puerto rican?
I think the 8k is just so they can actually justify having it on the box this time round 😆
Sony needs to let people watch videos and movies in PSVR 2. The ability to play 360 TH-cam, 3D movies, and local 3D video files would go a long way. They need to make those apps happen on PS5, or at the very least, let these things happen with PC connectivity.
Psvr2 will be fine if they support it all the way to ps6 and ps6 pro.. this should be a two gen headset.. and only get an upgrade to cut the cord or make it more comfortable.. also hope that Flat2Vr changes the landscape
I don’t think the CPU is really holding anything back. Der8aur did a pretty good video on CPU bottlenecks about a year ago. A better CPU helps on lower res, sure. But on higher res, it’s not going to matter as much (like 1440p+). The GPU is going to drive better IQ and FPS far more than the CPU.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like Sony accounted for upgrading hardware when designing the OS or stipulating developer requirements for the console. So no automatic upgrades for older PS5 titles. Which is the biggest problem I see with the PS5 Pro. Relying on devs to patch for console upgrades was proven to be a losing proposition last console generation.