I never understood final judgement. Now I do. If only that had been explained to me the way you explained it. I'm 74 and a cradle Catholic!!! Thank you.
Wow, super insightful! I've been a christian my whole life and never really understood judgment in this sense. Thank you for this small yet concise teaching, cannot wait to share with my friends!!!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:09 🙏 The episode discusses questions about death, Jesus descending into hell, Judgment Day, souls after death, and prayers for the deceased. 01:33 ⛪ Belief that Jesus descended into hell is part of the Creed; he saved holy people from the limbo of the Patriarchs, but not those in the hell of the Lost. 03:41 ⚖️ There are two judgments: the particular judgment after death and the last judgment at the End of Time; the last judgment accounts for lasting effects of actions. 05:45 💒 The Holy Mass is a powerful prayer for souls in purgatory, applying Jesus's merits; offering individual masses for the deceased is a pious practice. Made with HARPA AI
God is holy! Yesterday I was wondering in my thoughts whether people were saved or not prior to Christ and here is God answering the doubts in my heart by sending this ad. You see, I was born into a Mexican "Catholic" family that like many, never really read the bible and remained in ignorance and living in full sin. My elder sisters have been deep into the community for over a decade but I always judged them and thought of them as hypocrites not knowing that I was looking into a mirror. Now, I thank the Lord for their lives because through their prayer my mother, my daughter, and I have been seeking God's Word, Forgiveness, and Glory. We all have been amazed over the past couple of months by how he works in beautiful and perfect ways even when it is not our own ways. He has changed my complete view of the world and I am forever grateful. I can now freely and proudly say that I am a Catholic and that I have much to learn and I am willing to allow the Lord to take the person I once claimed to be and use me for whatever purpose he has for me and mold me to his will. I now understand the true meaning of Love. This world has lied to us and fed us with false joys in life, with temporary peace and misinformation. We should be the proudest among humans because we serve the Lord of mercy, the one and only God almighty. Now I understand that I should not only say I love and believe in God but act like it. Now I could care less about what anyone thinks of me for defending my creator, for spreading his word and love. His opinion of me is the only opinion I want to ever care of. I am praying for all of you and your beautiful families! Please pray for me and my family!
Thank you, Father Ambrose, this is a brilliant exposition of what the Creeds describe as " He descended into Hell". Your emphasis on offering Mass and prayers for dead will be something that I'll begin. Godspeed! John A. Lombardi
this is beautiful. It's just like God to make even the grimmest, scariest and macabre into beautiful. Thank you and may God continue blessing you and in turn us.
Thank you, Father Ambrose, you have a real gift, I appreciate your sharing these insights into what matters. They reach right in. God bless you and all the TI !
Thank you Father Ambrose Little for this insightful and enlightening teachings! About the limbo ofthe Patriarchs and the limbo of the loss! For the limbo of Patriarchs they are entitled for the saving Grace of God, Particular Judgement that will apply to all of us at the moment of our death and the Final Judgment a public Judgment in the end of the World! It really struck to me that is why there’s a Final Judgement Day is that our Good and Bad actions have still an effect and will reverberate like a ripple in a pond after our death in the future! As for me Im already 57 years old and honestly if somebody ask me what is the legacy that my father left unto me i will reply without hesitation that all the memories that my father left to me are bad ones in general but the Good thing is now after i processed all these negative emotions the traumas and hatred in my heart and mind i donot regret him anymore as my father, Amor Fati as the Stoic Philosopher Emperor Marcus Aurelius has said Love your fate! Now i have clarity and acceptance that the Good Lord God placed me in that particular situation with a particular father so that I’ll have a template a guide a compass in my future life of what bad things and evil things bad habits I should avoid and Good thing to balance everything God gave me a saintly mother as aGood example of what should be a Good virtues life is! I have watched the movie St Augustine the Bishop of Hippo 330 AD that we have like similar parents! He summed it all up his teaching in his Book the Confession that Our hearts are restless O Lord God until it rest unto Thee! Gautama Buddha once said In order to Honor a person living or dead is for us to follow and try to emulate and relive their legacy in life! That is to follow what Good example they gave us and to unfollow or try to avoid the bad things they showed to us. There are only two kind of person in this world, the one that brings happiness to us and the other one who teaches us lessons in life! K
What is your scriptural support for the existence of purgatory? What is the origin of the teaching on purgatory in the Roman Catholic Church? What is your scriptural support for the mass applying the merits of Jesus' death and resurrection to people who died? Where is the scriptural support for praying for the dead?
Jesus died and was put into the tomb until his resurrection, and the hell he went to was only the grave. Peter in Acts 2:27 applies the following words to Jesus: 'Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption'. The point he's making is that Jesus' body was not left in the grave to corrupt, but was raised by God, his father, from the dead. The words are quoted from Psalm 16 where David speaks of himself and his future resurrection and prophetically of his greater son, Jesus. Regarding David, Peter says 'that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day'. He says this to show that David's body was left in hell (the grave), and did see corruption, in contrast to Jesus who was not left there and saw no corruption.
I'm a _sola scriptura_ Protestant fundamentalist and about as far away from Roman Catholicism as someone could be, but I agree with the Catholic idea that Jesus Christ descended into Hell after His death on the Cross and preached the Gospel to the Old Testament saints (I'm using the word "saints" in the Protestant sense). There's enough evidence in the Bible, I think, to prove that Jesus descended into Hell.
Excellent questions #1&2; my guess is that all christians are confused about these issues, because - as this presentation shows- these answers are NOT biblical, and formed through the imagination of St. Thomas. Thank you for the clarification it helps a lot.
Are there any valid traditions of the harrowing of hell which are more complete than that of St Thomas Aquinas? That is, do any catholic scholars hold that all or most of hell was emptied by Christ's descent?
Many thanks for this and all the videos and materials from the TI. I have benefitted a great deal, but I am left puzzled by this one. Doesn't Aquinas here become an ethical consequentialist? Isn't this odd for someone so influenced by Aristotle? What about the problems of consequentialism anyway?
#askafriar Thank you for the explanation of if Jesus did indeed descend into hell. I have a follow up question regarding this same topic. You stated the holy people of the Old Testament were waiting on our Lord to break then free to enter the kingdom. However, in the synoptic gospels, the authors describe the Transfiguration of Jesus and how Moses and Elijah appear next to Jesus and Jesus speaks to both Elijah and Moses. How is this possible if Elijah and Moses were in this limbo place?
I strongly believe both Elijah and Moses were taken in body and soul to Limbo of Patriarchs, we know Elijah did and I believe even Moses after death was taken ( same as Our Lady's body and soul), as Moses body has never been found in Mount Nebo( in Jordan ) although he did go there to die. Limbo is a place of absolute peace either for Patriarchs and for unbaptized Innocents (who will be there till end of time), hence it is not a place of punishment. Hence both prophets did talk about Jesus salvation including theirs, to the world during transfiguration.
Samuel's spirit was also summoned by the Witch of Endor for King Saul. Spirits in the afterlife, Limbo, Purgatory or Heaven, can appear on Earth by the permission of God.
The Bible doesn't mention Souls in Limbo or a so called ( Catholic Invent known as Purgatory! The Bible is Clear, and The Lord Jesus Christ himself explains ,what happens to a Soul the moment they die! Luke 16:19- 31. The True Account from the lips of Jesus concerning ,the Rich Man and Lazarus! Please read your Bible and understand the Truth from Jesus Christ and not from Tradition's and Fables of men 🙏
Our LORD was not in hell (hades is the realm of the dead), HE said to the thief: today you will be with me in paradise! Listen to real theologians like Dr. John Ankerberg!
Leonardo, if I may try to answer, purgatory is not an ultimate destination. It is for souls destined for Heaven but that have some type of work to do to obtain their heavenly destination. I hope I am not mistaken. I’m sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. But this is how I understand purgatory.
@@leonardobaldini7196 Purgatory was created soon after our First parents sinned, Limbo of Innocents, Limbo of partriarchs aswell. Now only Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and Limbo of Innocents do still exist, while, at the end of time, Purgatory and Limbo of Innocents ( of the dead unbaptized innocents) will vanish and only two will be left, either Heaven or Hell.
How about reincarnation? Just about every other religious tradition reports reincarnation and just about every other Near Death Experiencer does the same. It would be interesting to see a catholic broaden his scope and see how these other sacred texts and reports fit in with the Bible. The idea of just a heaven, hell and purgatory seems to be somewhat contradicted by NDEs as well. People’s out of body experiences are fairly varied
Bad translation--Jesus descended into the tomb; icons of the Resurrection always show Christ leading the Old Testament faithful out of the tomb by hand.
I thought final judgement at the end times was for souls still in purgatory and souls who happened to be alive at the end times. Are you implying that someone who was sent to hell for their immediate judgement can be rescued during the final judgement at the end times due to good effects that occurred after their initial “sentence”?
I don't completely understand the statements around the 5:25 mark. I understand the point being made about lasting effects, but are lasting effects NOT taken into account during our first judgement? The video made it seem that God will only consider lasting effects at our final judgement. If that is the case then can somebody be granted Heaven during their first judgement but then (after taking into account the long-term effects of their actions) be cast into hell at their final judgement? Could the opposite happen where someone is originally sent to hell but then it turns out their lasting effects were positive so then they go to Heaven at the final judgment?
I think the answer to your doubt is what Jesus says at Matthew 7:15-20 “Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.”. Perhaps (I might be wrong),as said in the video, the lasting effects will contribute to the glory of those who went to Heaven and to the despair of those who went to hell considering that good people, who gave good fruits, would be able to see how many people were saved by the testimony of the souls themselves and this would be a way to increase the glory such as the other passage from Matthew 25:14-30 in which a lord gives mines to his workers and the one who retributed 10x the initial value receive 10 cities and other got 5- the value and received 5 cities, showing different ways or intensities of glorification (the same applied to the ones who were condemned).
I don’t think it’s possible to someone have their sentence revoked by the time of the final Judgment. It would probably diverge from God’s justice by letting the person’s final destiny aside from its free will. I’m not dead yet to confirm this (lol) but when the time comes we have to have allowed good fruits to happen!
Arthur puts it perfectly, but as Fr. Ambrose was very explicit about Aquinas' explanation: come final jugdement, it's the time to reward accordingly, from our time on earth, both for the damned and the saints. I'd imagine Mother Theresa would have a greater reward than a great many souls.
If you remember that the final judgement is the day in which we are given our bodies back, the rewards in heaven Jesus speaks so often of in his parables can then be given to us. The nature of these rewards is a matter of speculation, but we can't believe exiting hell is one of them, hell is the eternal destiny of a person that died choosing themself over God.
I'm sorry Father, but Jesus mentions that Abraham has been in heaven when He tells us the story of Lazarus (Luke 16) so clearly Jesus does not descend to hell to save the patriarchs. Also during the Transfiguraton, even before Jesus death Moses and Elijah were shown with Him, which was mpossible if they were assigned to a section in hell. Then the thing about the lasting effects of sins which will be judged in the second coming of Christ is against the divinity of God because God know things before they happen, there is no need to such waiting . The Last Judgment only confirms the previous judgment and only be done on those who are still living when Jesus comes for the second time. But it is true that Jesus descended into purgatory to save souls who needed His grace badly.
*"But if a wicked man turns away from all his sins which he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him;* for the righteousness which he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? *But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity and does the same abominable things that the wicked man does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds which he has done shall be remembered;* for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, he shall die." (Ezekiel 18: 21-24) "Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, *every one according to his ways,* says the Lord God. Repent and turn from all your transgressions, lest iniquity be your ruin." (Ezekiel 18:30) We are responsible for the actions we make as individuals, we don't take credit or "merits" for what others do because of the good we make, or take punishments for what others do because of their own actions. I think there are priests teaching this kind of "domino effect" accountability, but that's not biblical. The only thing inherited naturally by human race is the original sin, but even Adam and Eve are not judged for all the original sins inherited by all people because of their initial sin. In fact the Church teaches that Adam and Eve were taken into heaven by Christ when He descended into the underworld. Quoted from a reference quoted in the Catechism No.635 "...He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him..."
@@marianlindsay7787 It is removed from Bible by Martin Luther before he went to hell. Catholics have 73 books in Bible, where as Protestants have 66, add another 6 teachings of Martin Luther, you will get 666.
I don’t agree with you on people in “purgatory” if people go to hell us Gods and Yeshua’s judgment. You can not pray their exit out. It is called in the Bible Sheol/hades & Abraham’s bosom. There Bible doesn’t teach about mass. Only Yeshua is Lord, Savior, King, Redeemer. NO priest, rabbi, pastor, virgin, saints, can save us or absolve our sins. We have to confess to Yeshua and exercise faith in Him to be saved and forgiven.
He descended into the realm of the dead ( Inferos or Underworld ) or Limbo. Vatican 2 modified it to Hell. I was saying He descended to the dead, and in my mother tongue it was Limbo.
The Limbo of the Fathers is the name given to the "place" or "state" where the righteous who died before Christ awaited His descent, after which the gates of Heaven were opened and they were admitted to the Beatific Vision of God. Therefore, the Limbo of the Fathers was only a temporary reality which no longer exists. In the Gospel of Saint Luke, we see the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. Lazarus goes to the "bosom of Abraham" which is understood to be the Limbo of the Fathers. There is however, another sense in which the Church speaks of Limbo. This refers to the Limbo of children. This is a "conditional" dogma of the faith. It is a necessary logical deduction from two dogmas, and I will explain the conditional part afterwards. Only those who die in mortal sin go to the Hell of the damned. Those who die in original sin only do not go to the Hell of the damned. However, only those who die in a state of grace are admitted to the beatific vision, which is supernatural and thus requires grace. Therefore we are left with the conclusion that those who die in the state of original sin only, e.g unbaptized infants, cannot go to the Hell of the damned because they did not die in mortal sin, but they cannot go to Heaven either and enjoy the beatific vision because they did not die in a state of grace. Therefore, the "Limbo of the Children", understood as a place of everlasting natural happiness, is a necessary dogmatic conclusion. However, here is the catch. It is a dogma that God can communicate sanctifying grace apart from the Sacraments if He so wills. Therefore, if God chooses to communicate sanctifying grace to all those who die in original sin only, then the Limbo of the Children does not exist because all its members would in fact be in Heaven enjoying the beatific vision. The Church expresses a "great hope" that God does in fact communicate such extra-sacramental grace to those who die in original sin only, and therefore some people believe (erroneously) that the Church has 'done away' with Limbo, in reference to the Limno of the children without making the qualifications I made. The Limbo of the Fathers as referenced in this video however is absolutely non-existent anymore because Christ has already died, but we still believe in its past existence. Hope that helps.
@@tafazzi-on-discord "sheol" is, I think, a more all-inclusive term referring to the natural state of a human soul at death. This would be hell for everyone, good or bad, if humankind had never been raised to the blessed state to begin with, simply because no creature has a natural capacity for heaven. But, of course, if no one had sinned, hell wouldn't have been a punishment, any more than natural existence of any kind is a punishment. Regardless, both the damned and the blessed were in sheol before Christ. "Limbo" is just a handy term to describe the difference of where in sheol they were.
The Holy Fathers agreed that Hell does not really exist yet. Hell will exist after the Last Judgement. Before they have a kind of foretaste of heaven and Hell. Till this, there is a mediaze state of souls. Only the Most Holy Theotokos is in that absolute state. With body and Soul.
It is not Holy Fathers agreeing. Jesus has openly told about hell, numerous times. If Hell doesnt exist where are the devils and demons? Did Jesus tell myth?
We dont need 'Aquinas' We just have the Holy bible that states that "Jesus was not left in Hades" ( Acts 2:31). Here 'Hades' is NOT the greek mythological place of torment e.t.c but the greek equivenent of SHEOL , Hebrew for the common earthern grave of all mankind from which there is hope of a rusurrection ( see rev 20:13). Jesus died, was buried and only raised on the THIRD DAY as attested to by Jesus & his apostles. ( Matt 20:19) Greek philosophy has distorted much of Christian beliefs!
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I never understood final judgement. Now I do. If only that had been explained to me the way you explained it. I'm 74 and a cradle Catholic!!! Thank you.
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Wow, super insightful! I've been a christian my whole life and never really understood judgment in this sense. Thank you for this small yet concise teaching, cannot wait to share with my friends!!!
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🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:09 🙏 The episode discusses questions about death, Jesus descending into hell, Judgment Day, souls after death, and prayers for the deceased.
01:33 ⛪ Belief that Jesus descended into hell is part of the Creed; he saved holy people from the limbo of the Patriarchs, but not those in the hell of the Lost.
03:41 ⚖️ There are two judgments: the particular judgment after death and the last judgment at the End of Time; the last judgment accounts for lasting effects of actions.
05:45 💒 The Holy Mass is a powerful prayer for souls in purgatory, applying Jesus's merits; offering individual masses for the deceased is a pious practice.
Made with HARPA AI
God is holy! Yesterday I was wondering in my thoughts whether people were saved or not prior to Christ and here is God answering the doubts in my heart by sending this ad. You see, I was born into a Mexican "Catholic" family that like many, never really read the bible and remained in ignorance and living in full sin. My elder sisters have been deep into the community for over a decade but I always judged them and thought of them as hypocrites not knowing that I was looking into a mirror. Now, I thank the Lord for their lives because through their prayer my mother, my daughter, and I have been seeking God's Word, Forgiveness, and Glory. We all have been amazed over the past couple of months by how he works in beautiful and perfect ways even when it is not our own ways. He has changed my complete view of the world and I am forever grateful. I can now freely and proudly say that I am a Catholic and that I have much to learn and I am willing to allow the Lord to take the person I once claimed to be and use me for whatever purpose he has for me and mold me to his will. I now understand the true meaning of Love. This world has lied to us and fed us with false joys in life, with temporary peace and misinformation. We should be the proudest among humans because we serve the Lord of mercy, the one and only God almighty. Now I understand that I should not only say I love and believe in God but act like it. Now I could care less about what anyone thinks of me for defending my creator, for spreading his word and love. His opinion of me is the only opinion I want to ever care of. I am praying for all of you and your beautiful families! Please pray for me and my family!
Thank you, Father Ambrose, this is a brilliant exposition of what the Creeds describe as " He descended into Hell". Your emphasis on offering Mass and prayers for dead will be something that I'll begin. Godspeed!
John A. Lombardi
We're so glad the video helped! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. May the Lord bless you!
this is beautiful. It's just like God to make even the grimmest, scariest and macabre into beautiful. Thank you and may God continue blessing you and in turn us.
Awesome! God Bless.
Such wonderful information for Catholics and all people Thank You for such a Great Video
The effects of our actions that last even beyond our earthly death....
It's true that what we do here on earth surely echoes into eternity.
Thank you Father
Thank you, Father Ambrose, you have a real gift, I appreciate your sharing these insights into what matters. They reach right in. God bless you and all the TI !
Thank you Father Ambrose Little for this insightful and enlightening teachings! About the limbo ofthe Patriarchs and the limbo of the loss! For the limbo of Patriarchs they are entitled for the saving Grace of God, Particular Judgement that will apply to all of us at the moment of our death and the Final Judgment a public Judgment in the end of the World! It really struck to me that is why there’s a Final Judgement Day is that our Good and Bad actions have still an effect and will reverberate like a ripple in a pond after our death in the future! As for me Im already 57 years old and honestly if somebody ask me what is the legacy that my father left unto me i will reply without hesitation that all the memories that my father left to me are bad ones in general but the Good thing is now after i processed all these negative emotions the traumas and hatred in my heart and mind i donot regret him anymore as my father, Amor Fati as the Stoic Philosopher Emperor Marcus Aurelius has said Love your fate! Now i have clarity and acceptance that the Good Lord God placed me in that particular situation with a particular father so that I’ll have a template a guide a compass in my future life of what bad things and evil things bad habits I should avoid and Good thing to balance everything God gave me a saintly mother as aGood example of what should be a Good virtues life is! I have watched the movie St Augustine the Bishop of Hippo 330 AD that we have like similar parents! He summed it all up his teaching in his Book the Confession that Our hearts are restless O Lord God until it rest unto Thee! Gautama Buddha once said In order to Honor a person living or dead is for us to follow and try to emulate and relive their legacy in life! That is to follow what Good example they gave us and to unfollow or try to avoid the bad things they showed to us. There are only two kind of person in this world, the one that brings happiness to us and the other one who teaches us lessons in life! K
What is your scriptural support for the existence of purgatory? What is the origin of the teaching on purgatory in the Roman Catholic Church? What is your scriptural support for the mass applying the merits of Jesus' death and resurrection to people who died? Where is the scriptural support for praying for the dead?
Jesus died and was put into the tomb until his resurrection, and the hell he went to was only the grave. Peter in Acts 2:27 applies the following words to Jesus: 'Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption'. The point he's making is that Jesus' body was not left in the grave to corrupt, but was raised by God, his father, from the dead. The words are quoted from Psalm 16 where David speaks of himself and his future resurrection and prophetically of his greater son, Jesus. Regarding David, Peter says 'that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day'. He says this to show that David's body was left in hell (the grave), and did see corruption, in contrast to Jesus who was not left there and saw no corruption.
Actually the word is Hades or Sheol or grave not hell.
Love these videos so much! What is the final temptation? Can the devil tempt us immediately following death? If so how can we prepare?
I'm a _sola scriptura_ Protestant fundamentalist and about as far away from Roman Catholicism as someone could be, but I agree with the Catholic idea that Jesus Christ descended into Hell after His death on the Cross and preached the Gospel to the Old Testament saints (I'm using the word "saints" in the Protestant sense). There's enough evidence in the Bible, I think, to prove that Jesus descended into Hell.
Can you only have masses offered for catholics?. . I'm Catholic ( convert) but my deceased mother was Jewish
Excellent questions #1&2; my guess is that all christians are confused about these issues, because - as this presentation shows- these answers are NOT biblical, and formed through the imagination of St. Thomas. Thank you for the clarification it helps a lot.
Are there any valid traditions of the harrowing of hell which are more complete than that of St Thomas Aquinas? That is, do any catholic scholars hold that all or most of hell was emptied by Christ's descent?
Many thanks for this and all the videos and materials from the TI. I have benefitted a great deal, but I am left puzzled by this one. Doesn't Aquinas here become an ethical consequentialist? Isn't this odd for someone so influenced by Aristotle? What about the problems of consequentialism anyway?
#askafriar Thank you for the explanation of if Jesus did indeed descend into hell. I have a follow up question regarding this same topic. You stated the holy people of the Old Testament were waiting on our Lord to break then free to enter the kingdom. However, in the synoptic gospels, the authors describe the Transfiguration of Jesus and how Moses and Elijah appear next to Jesus and Jesus speaks to both Elijah and Moses. How is this possible if Elijah and Moses were in this limbo place?
I strongly believe both Elijah and Moses were taken in body and soul to Limbo of Patriarchs, we know Elijah did and I believe even Moses after death was taken ( same as Our Lady's body and soul), as Moses body has never been found in Mount Nebo( in Jordan ) although he did go there to die. Limbo is a place of absolute peace either for Patriarchs and for unbaptized Innocents (who will be there till end of time), hence it is not a place of punishment.
Hence both prophets did talk about Jesus salvation including theirs, to the world during transfiguration.
Samuel's spirit was also summoned by the Witch of Endor for King Saul. Spirits in the afterlife, Limbo, Purgatory or Heaven, can appear on Earth by the permission of God.
1:48 Interesting but where dose the Bible talk about Limbo and Purgatory?
The Bible doesn't mention Souls in Limbo or a so called ( Catholic Invent known as Purgatory!
The Bible is Clear, and The Lord Jesus Christ himself explains ,what happens to a Soul the moment they die!
Luke 16:19- 31.
The True Account from the lips of Jesus concerning ,the Rich Man and Lazarus!
Please read your Bible and understand the Truth from Jesus Christ and not from Tradition's and Fables of men 🙏
Thank you god bless you Amen 🙏✝️🕊️❤️
You're welcome! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. May the Lord bless you!
Obrigada!!!!
Our LORD was not in hell (hades is the realm of the dead), HE said to the thief: today you will be with me in paradise! Listen to real theologians like Dr. John Ankerberg!
And what about the souls in Limbo destined to Purgatory?
Leonardo, if I may try to answer, purgatory is not an ultimate destination. It is for souls destined for Heaven but that have some type of work to do to obtain their heavenly destination. I hope I am not mistaken. I’m sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. But this is how I understand purgatory.
@@tarajones-legros3661 I know this Tara, thank you.. So I guess Purgatory was created at the very moment of Christ's death.
@@leonardobaldini7196 Purgatory was created soon after our First parents sinned, Limbo of Innocents, Limbo of partriarchs aswell.
Now only Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and Limbo of Innocents do still exist, while, at the end of time, Purgatory and Limbo of Innocents ( of the dead unbaptized innocents) will vanish and only two will be left, either Heaven or Hell.
How about reincarnation? Just about every other religious tradition reports reincarnation and just about every other Near Death Experiencer does the same. It would be interesting to see a catholic broaden his scope and see how these other sacred texts and reports fit in with the Bible.
The idea of just a heaven, hell and purgatory seems to be somewhat contradicted by NDEs as well. People’s out of body experiences are fairly varied
Bad translation--Jesus descended into the tomb; icons of the Resurrection always show Christ leading the Old Testament faithful out of the tomb by hand.
I thought final judgement at the end times was for souls still in purgatory and souls who happened to be alive at the end times. Are you implying that someone who was sent to hell for their immediate judgement can be rescued during the final judgement at the end times due to good effects that occurred after their initial “sentence”?
No, you misunderstood him. He never implied what you said.
#AskAFriar what if the soul I am praying for is in hell?
I don't completely understand the statements around the 5:25 mark. I understand the point being made about lasting effects, but are lasting effects NOT taken into account during our first judgement? The video made it seem that God will only consider lasting effects at our final judgement.
If that is the case then can somebody be granted Heaven during their first judgement but then (after taking into account the long-term effects of their actions) be cast into hell at their final judgement? Could the opposite happen where someone is originally sent to hell but then it turns out their lasting effects were positive so then they go to Heaven at the final judgment?
I think the answer to your doubt is what Jesus says at Matthew 7:15-20 “Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.”.
Perhaps (I might be wrong),as said in the video, the lasting effects will contribute to the glory of those who went to Heaven and to the despair of those who went to hell considering that good people, who gave good fruits, would be able to see how many people were saved by the testimony of the souls themselves and this would be a way to increase the glory such as the other passage from Matthew 25:14-30 in which a lord gives mines to his workers and the one who retributed 10x the initial value receive 10 cities and other got 5- the value and received 5 cities, showing different ways or intensities of glorification (the same applied to the ones who were condemned).
I don’t think it’s possible to someone have their sentence revoked by the time of the final Judgment. It would probably diverge from God’s justice by letting the person’s final destiny aside from its free will. I’m not dead yet to confirm this (lol) but when the time comes we have to have allowed good fruits to happen!
@@arthurvalente8508 very good answer
Arthur puts it perfectly, but as Fr. Ambrose was very explicit about Aquinas' explanation: come final jugdement, it's the time to reward accordingly, from our time on earth, both for the damned and the saints. I'd imagine Mother Theresa would have a greater reward than a great many souls.
If you remember that the final judgement is the day in which we are given our bodies back, the rewards in heaven Jesus speaks so often of in his parables can then be given to us. The nature of these rewards is a matter of speculation, but we can't believe exiting hell is one of them, hell is the eternal destiny of a person that died choosing themself over God.
I'm sorry Father, but Jesus mentions that Abraham has been in heaven when He tells us the story of Lazarus (Luke 16) so clearly Jesus does not descend to hell to save the patriarchs. Also during the Transfiguraton, even before Jesus death Moses and Elijah were shown with Him, which was mpossible if they were assigned to a section in hell. Then the thing about the lasting effects of sins which will be judged in the second coming of Christ is against the divinity of God because God know things before they happen, there is no need to such waiting . The Last Judgment only confirms the previous judgment and only be done on those who are still living when Jesus comes for the second time. But it is true that Jesus descended into purgatory to save souls who needed His grace badly.
Apparently my education failed me in terms of judgement day!
*"But if a wicked man turns away from all his sins which he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him;* for the righteousness which he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, says the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? *But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity and does the same abominable things that the wicked man does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds which he has done shall be remembered;* for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, he shall die." (Ezekiel 18: 21-24)
"Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, *every one according to his ways,* says the Lord God. Repent and turn from all your transgressions, lest iniquity be your ruin." (Ezekiel 18:30)
We are responsible for the actions we make as individuals, we don't take credit or "merits" for what others do because of the good we make, or take punishments for what others do because of their own actions. I think there are priests teaching this kind of "domino effect" accountability, but that's not biblical. The only thing inherited naturally by human race is the original sin, but even Adam and Eve are not judged for all the original sins inherited by all people because of their initial sin. In fact the Church teaches that Adam and Eve were taken into heaven by Christ when He descended into the underworld.
Quoted from a reference quoted in the Catechism No.635 "...He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him..."
Can the souls in purgatory not pray for themselves?
No, unless they move to heaven or some one else does from heaven or on earth.
What is the point
I have not heard one Bible scripture to support praying for the dead.
"It is a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins" 2 Maccabees 12:46
@@luxither7354 that’s not apart of the Bible
@@marianlindsay7787 Who Canonised the Bible?
@@marianlindsay7787 It is removed from Bible by Martin Luther before he went to hell. Catholics have 73 books in Bible, where as Protestants have 66, add another 6 teachings of Martin Luther, you will get 666.
Does “limbo” have a definition?
Place of absolute peace and tranquility.
I don’t agree with you on people in “purgatory” if people go to hell us Gods and Yeshua’s judgment. You can not pray their exit out.
It is called in the Bible Sheol/hades & Abraham’s bosom.
There Bible doesn’t teach about mass.
Only Yeshua is Lord, Savior, King, Redeemer.
NO priest, rabbi, pastor, virgin, saints, can save us or absolve our sins. We have to confess to Yeshua and exercise faith in Him to be saved and forgiven.
Do research. The early apostles creed did not have Jesus descended into hell.
Also it is not once listed in the Bible
He said on the cross. It is finished
He descended into the realm of the dead ( Inferos or Underworld ) or Limbo. Vatican 2 modified it to Hell. I was saying He descended to the dead, and in my mother tongue it was Limbo.
Why do you use the word limbo if we don’t believe in limbo?
Thanks!
The Limbo of the Fathers is the name given to the "place" or "state" where the righteous who died before Christ awaited His descent, after which the gates of Heaven were opened and they were admitted to the Beatific Vision of God. Therefore, the Limbo of the Fathers was only a temporary reality which no longer exists. In the Gospel of Saint Luke, we see the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. Lazarus goes to the "bosom of Abraham" which is understood to be the Limbo of the Fathers.
There is however, another sense in which the Church speaks of Limbo. This refers to the Limbo of children. This is a "conditional" dogma of the faith. It is a necessary logical deduction from two dogmas, and I will explain the conditional part afterwards.
Only those who die in mortal sin go to the Hell of the damned. Those who die in original sin only do not go to the Hell of the damned. However, only those who die in a state of grace are admitted to the beatific vision, which is supernatural and thus requires grace. Therefore we are left with the conclusion that those who die in the state of original sin only, e.g unbaptized infants, cannot go to the Hell of the damned because they did not die in mortal sin, but they cannot go to Heaven either and enjoy the beatific vision because they did not die in a state of grace. Therefore, the "Limbo of the Children", understood as a place of everlasting natural happiness, is a necessary dogmatic conclusion.
However, here is the catch. It is a dogma that God can communicate sanctifying grace apart from the Sacraments if He so wills. Therefore, if God chooses to communicate sanctifying grace to all those who die in original sin only, then the Limbo of the Children does not exist because all its members would in fact be in Heaven enjoying the beatific vision.
The Church expresses a "great hope" that God does in fact communicate such extra-sacramental grace to those who die in original sin only, and therefore some people believe (erroneously) that the Church has 'done away' with Limbo, in reference to the Limno of the children without making the qualifications I made.
The Limbo of the Fathers as referenced in this video however is absolutely non-existent anymore because Christ has already died, but we still believe in its past existence.
Hope that helps.
Yeah I generally heared of that place referred to as "sheol" or "Abraham's busom"
@@tafazzi-on-discord "sheol" is, I think, a more all-inclusive term referring to the natural state of a human soul at death. This would be hell for everyone, good or bad, if humankind had never been raised to the blessed state to begin with, simply because no creature has a natural capacity for heaven. But, of course, if no one had sinned, hell wouldn't have been a punishment, any more than natural existence of any kind is a punishment. Regardless, both the damned and the blessed were in sheol before Christ. "Limbo" is just a handy term to describe the difference of where in sheol they were.
Judas.. Who betrayed Jesus.. Take suicide.. What is your perspective.. He is save??? Salamat 🙏🙏🙏
The Holy Fathers agreed that Hell does not really exist yet. Hell will exist after the Last Judgement. Before they have a kind of foretaste of heaven and Hell. Till this, there is a mediaze state of souls. Only the Most Holy Theotokos is in that absolute state. With body and Soul.
It is not Holy Fathers agreeing. Jesus has openly told about hell, numerous times. If Hell doesnt exist where are the devils and demons? Did Jesus tell myth?
@@alexisrodrigues4767 You are stupid! Learn to read. HELL WILL EXIST AFTERVTHE JUDGEMENT DAY. BUT NOT YET.
@@alexpanagiotis4706 Where does it say that in Bible. Is it from your brain situated in Ar**.
@@alexisrodrigues4767 Stopp taking drugs! THE HOLY FATHERS HAVE TAUGHT THIS. THE BIBLE COMES FROM THE HOLY FATHERS! WE ARE NOT PROTESTANTS!!!!
@@alexpanagiotis4706 Guess you were living during time of Holy Fathers, or time travelling.
Heresy
Please prove with evidence that hell exists.
Christ descended into the Kingdom of Death and not Hell.
That is Inferos, which Limbo of Patriarchs
@@alexisrodrigues4767 NO
We dont need 'Aquinas' We just have the Holy bible that states that "Jesus was not left in Hades" ( Acts 2:31). Here 'Hades' is NOT the greek mythological place of torment e.t.c but the greek equivenent of SHEOL , Hebrew for the common earthern grave of all mankind from which there is hope of a rusurrection ( see rev 20:13). Jesus died, was buried and only raised on the THIRD DAY as attested to by Jesus & his apostles. ( Matt 20:19) Greek philosophy has distorted much of Christian beliefs!