More About Even More Infernal Demons

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  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    That implies that the Johnson Forest is big enough that Godzilla can hide in it without having to crouch down

    • @solracstormhunter3023
      @solracstormhunter3023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      A Forest, big enough to provide nurishment to huge demons like regular Gomorrahs, sure must have trees larger that skycrapers and critters at least on mammoth size. 🌲🌳

  • @grumbledingle
    @grumbledingle ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I usually don’t care for when opera and modern-sounding music come together but when Baal Zebul showed up you already know I was screaming “Sing that shit girl 😩“ at my Switch.

  • @naturescorruptedinfactorie8062
    @naturescorruptedinfactorie8062 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    REALLY BIG STRETCH BUT:
    The “The” in The Phantom could be foreshadowing to Baal Zebul
    Right after “The Phantom”, the next Sin Demon is an _opera_ singer… so when you combine the two you get *”The Phantom of the Opera”*

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Now we need fusion Sin forms! This is great

    • @pablotomasllodra4423
      @pablotomasllodra4423 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      More like it was a way to even more blatantly reference DMC’s Phantom without copyright shenanigans.

  • @bleh5430
    @bleh5430 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I like to believe that the alternate Bayonetta who was Viola's mother still had ties to Chesire from Cereza and the Lost Demon, and when she gave her Chesire doll to Viola and asked Chesire to look after Viola

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I like to think this too. Feels nice :)

    • @mann-nova9392
      @mann-nova9392 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Since demons aren't unique in each universe, it would make sense!

    • @sinmil.1
      @sinmil.1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But isn't there a theory stating that Bayonetta from Bayo 3 is little Cereza from Bayo 1 also due to the same hairstyle?
      When Cereza is brought to Bayo 1's universe by Bolder, she's afraid and "a little crybaby" at the beginning, but due to her voyage with Bayo 1 and Luka, she gets more confident (maybe a bit cocky), which eventually leads to her having such self-esteem and being badass (Cereza from TLD has to go through a lot too, leading to her maturing and becoming stronger in will-power).
      There's some connection between Bayonetta from 1 and 3 and Cereza from 1 and The Lost Demon. This is some kind of riddle and I'm so here for it!!!

    • @bleh5430
      @bleh5430 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sinmil.1 I'm under the impression that that Bayo 3 was Cereza from the first game who became as powerful as she is because of the added encouragement from Bayo 1 who grew up from who she was in TLD which lines up with Viola's birth mother if she too was a Bayo 1 variant so it would be possible for Viola's mother to still have ties with the same Cheshire because there is still only 1 Inferno with 1 Chesire

    • @sinmil.1
      @sinmil.1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bleh5430 Wait, so you're saying that Bayo 1 could be Cereza from TLD? Interesting, but what makes you think that? Viola's mother is another Bayo version, not Bayo 1 right? Maybe you've explained it in your comment, but I didn't understand it; if so my apologies. 😅

  • @pedrourbano501
    @pedrourbano501 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    One thing I noticed, Beelzebub is represented in mythology by either a toad, human wearing a crown or a cat , or even all three at once. We can see the toad and the human with the crown in Baal Zebul but what about the cat? Well if you take a look at the little red horns she has you'll notice that they look like cat ears when looked at from a certain angle.

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is such a cool detail! Thanks for sharing!

    • @pedrourbano501
      @pedrourbano501 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@UmbranLumenAlso, I don't know if this is a stretch but Baal Zebul kinda reminds me of Nevan from Devil May Cry 3, they're both pale, beautiful demonesses, with long red hair and are musically inclined, Nevan's lair is a musical stage, also both of them give the player musical instruments as weapons, Nevan becomes a electric guitar for Dante and Baal Zebul gave Jeanne her mic stand which ended up with Bayonetta. Also Nevan is a reference to a Succubus while Baal Zebul is a Siren both being female monster who seduce men to their deaths.

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't doubt they picked up some ideas for sure! Cool coincidence otherwise! I need to finish playing the DMC games.

  • @CasualChris247
    @CasualChris247 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Bayonetta 4 lore vid when????

  • @memoryofsalem4474
    @memoryofsalem4474 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I feel the need to point out that the second half of the deadly sin chants contain the chant Bayonetta uses when performing a normal summon. It kinda makes you think what the other demon chants would be.

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also noticed that, I'd love to see more Sin forms for sure!

  • @marckid93
    @marckid93 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So here’s a gross fun fact for ya, the pink undergarment on Baal Zebu’s dress are actually her intestines/guts as a reference to how actual frogs have their internal organs visible.

  • @jea6863
    @jea6863 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    AVOCADOOOOOO

  • @matthewshiba3997
    @matthewshiba3997 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1. Sin Gomorrah were based on Japanese Kaiju Godzilla
    2. Queen Butterfly Climax is a Refrence of Tang Sanzang who gave Sun Wukong a Golden Headband and a Buddha who imprison him in the mountain. The second time she was summoned, she perform Dragon Ball Super Saiyan technique Kamehameha.
    3. The Phantom name is a reference toward phantom of the opera and also the Demon boss from the first DMC.
    4. Baal Zebul name cames from Beelzebub prenouncement and she was performing a Diva Dance from The Fifth Element

  • @Lucy_the_Pomeranian
    @Lucy_the_Pomeranian ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Guys i wanna see a bayo update so bad hell i wish we could get more infernal demons to be playable in bayonetta 3 like Diomedes or something and i REALLY hope in bayonetta 4 that they will expand in demon masquerade and demon slave would love to see more demons to he playable more combat options who knows maybe in bayo 4 we will get to see infernal demons doing different combos by mixing the punch and kick buttons like how bayonetta does and i hope that in bayo 4 that the sin trigger will be new feature in the game where we can play with their sin forms

  • @aquatheneptunewolf1115
    @aquatheneptunewolf1115 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love how you let the best part of fertile rondo plaaay then called me a virgin

  • @amillybarb3012
    @amillybarb3012 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finallyyyyy when we needed him the most he came back

  • @aknemesis5078
    @aknemesis5078 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Shame all the Deadly Sin rituals ended with Baal Zebul. That's four out of the eight demons you get in the story (barring the few you get in side chapters and endgame)
    Would've been funny if Umbran Clock Tower's sin form was the Ithavoll Group building. Does it makes sense? No. Would it be awesome? Hell yeah.

  • @imagineasa
    @imagineasa ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the king is back!

  • @ryanmcc716
    @ryanmcc716 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the new video! ❤❤ as for who my Infernal Demon would be, honestly I’m between Madame Butterfly cause I’m a hardcore butterfly stand no shame in admitting
    My second choice would have to be Rosa’s demon Madame Khepri, we don’t know all that much about her, but that only adds to the air of mystery surrounding her. Add in the fact that the sin transformations are now a thing it makes me all the more curious to see what her transformation would be like.
    And lastly, my third and final choice would be Baal, I love her Sin form and I also happen to have a fascination with poison….that and my adoration for singing 🎼🎼🎼🎼 she and I would have angels falling before our harmonic rhythm 🎵 🎵🎵

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great choices! I wish we could have seen Madama Khepri again! (And play as Rosa...)

  • @CrazyPangolinLady
    @CrazyPangolinLady 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “Sin” might be a Japanese pun on “Shin” which means ultimate. In particular Sin Gomorrah (and Gomorrah in general in this game) is a reference to Shin Godzilla.
    His lasers, the ones that come out of his back, is an addition in the movie Shin Godzilla. Shin Godzilla also opens up his mouth in a weird way to shoot his purple lasers. AND the song in the Sin Gomorrah fight is a very specific reference to the “March of Godzilla” theme song.

  • @porkymars9522
    @porkymars9522 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welcome back!

  • @Spiritofguidance8923
    @Spiritofguidance8923 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Beautiful ❤️ but there is one I'm concerned about whenever a portal to inferno opens to collect the Devine what inferno demon's hands are those?

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope they elaborate on that next time or just more in general on witch pacts.

    • @Spiritofguidance8923
      @Spiritofguidance8923 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@UmbranLumen yup it's hands change sizes whenever something big or small it collects

    • @nickc7797
      @nickc7797 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It might just be a bunch of random demons with similar hands wanting to have a good snack

  • @pedrosilveira5836
    @pedrosilveira5836 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i really hope we get more of baal zebul in the next game, i really wanna see what her skillset is

    • @jacobweatherford4696
      @jacobweatherford4696 ปีที่แล้ว

      I kinda hope cereza doesnt stay dead because it was honestly heartbreaking seeing her get dragged to hell luka could have saved her and put her back in her body

  • @i_am_mentlegen1403
    @i_am_mentlegen1403 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fun fact: The Chesh from Viola has quiete a lot of graphical similarities to Cheshires ultime form in Origins. But if he is the same. Why didnt he interact with Cereza in B3?

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is what bothers me a lot lol, someone else made a comment that Cereza from CatLD is actually Viola's mom which would explain that aspect but it could also just be a plot hole :(

    • @jacobweatherford4696
      @jacobweatherford4696 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe he doesnt feel any connection to beyo3s beyonetta like he does to violas mom you know a sorta your beyonetta but your not my beyonetta thing.

  • @chesirecat2969
    @chesirecat2969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 2 weeks late but I gotta say, great video. That being said I have something to I'd like add about Queen Butterfly. Now, this could just be my own crackpot theory, but I think, at least her appearance, might be inspired by the Bodhisattva Guanyin.
    Hear me out. 1st of all, the Chinese chapter is very Journey To The West inspired, with the boss being basically Sun Wukong so it's not out of the question. Secondly, excluding her head, her silluette is very similar to Guanyin. Finally, in the official render, her head arms are posed the same way Guanyin usually poses her arms and hands across various depictions.
    I also just think this would be kinda interesting since Madama/Queen Butterfly is known for being brutal and merciless while Guanyin is the Goddess of Mercy.

  • @psix1843
    @psix1843 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another amazing video👏

  • @LightisKira717
    @LightisKira717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 2 weeks late, but I'm happy you returned, now I can finally watch the 3rd and final infernal demon video...for now.

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't wait for four 🙏

    • @vikinggamer7727
      @vikinggamer7727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@UmbranLumen will the Homunculi be next?

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว

      Currently working on my video on the Faeries from Bayonetta Origins!

  • @haaendaaz3619
    @haaendaaz3619 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YAAAAYYY

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Are you going to be covering Cereza and the Lost Demon as well

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do plan to! Probably next.

  • @renatomatosperna6802
    @renatomatosperna6802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I noticed the similarity between Baal Zebull and Nevam, the boss from Devil May Cry 3, both women with long red hair and pale skin

  • @beldafigueroa6799
    @beldafigueroa6799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Umm two things to say : a headcannon of headcannon of mine is that when bayo used sin baalzebul she sealed the fate of singularity since her depscription says every opponent of baalzebul meets death
    And second. Another headcannon of mine its that gomorrah its not his first time killing a bayonetta since he is the only one and has killed manys before so he thinks its easy to backstab her

  • @TheHiddenHand420
    @TheHiddenHand420 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sin Gamorrah - Shin Godzilla...
    Just gonna leave that there

    • @CrazyPangolinLady
      @CrazyPangolinLady 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Gomorrah in this game overall is a reference to Shin Godzilla. He even gets purple back lasers like Shin Godzilla. AND the music in the sin fight is a reference to the Godzilla theme song.

  • @lawftbykurama8103
    @lawftbykurama8103 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a New zealander the first person who reached the top of mount everest was named Edmund Hillary since the year 29 May 1953 and hes on the 5 NZDollar as hes from new zealand

  • @aquatheneptunewolf1115
    @aquatheneptunewolf1115 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love that wartrain guon reference one of My favourite mangas and anime😊

  • @DovonMac1
    @DovonMac1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The think We Are As One is the best song bar none followed by Baal’s song then moonlight serenade and last Al fine

  • @solracstormhunter3023
    @solracstormhunter3023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you doing video about the Homunculi and/or Fairies next? 🎬
    The first thing I noticed, is how some Homunculi are named after meteorological terms and the Fairies are nemed after folktale creatures related, or similar to to them.

  • @Bucketnetta
    @Bucketnetta 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    While bayo 3 did some things wrong one thing they did RIGHT were the demons

  • @hiroanimations9045
    @hiroanimations9045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope we get more lore

  • @gamesgonenuts
    @gamesgonenuts ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this game is great smashed the like

  • @DovonMac1
    @DovonMac1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since Hideki Kamiya will be leaving does that mean the end of Bayonetta franchise? I hope not

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It probably won't mean the end for the franchise. Hideki Kamiya leaving is a big shock, though.

  • @solracstormhunter3023
    @solracstormhunter3023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20:50 ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! That was YESTERDAY! (Today, Wednesday December 20th 2023) 🤯😂

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Invictus Spiritus I'm back

  • @wayverleesoulsong
    @wayverleesoulsong 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would definitely contract Malphas, I’m a bird person❤

  • @clarylarva6756
    @clarylarva6756 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My infernal demon would be Gomorrah, just because I'm obsessed with reptiles since forever. I hate his demon masquerade design tho.

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We definitely need more reptilian demons like serpents or something. If only Hydra came back since she is like reptile-adjacent.

    • @clarylarva6756
      @clarylarva6756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree ! A badass crocodile like Ammit would have been perfect in the egyptian multiverse@@UmbranLumen

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No shade thrown but Helena Taylor says Avavago better than Jennifer Hale

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True.

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@UmbranLumen and it's like a few months ago I met Jennifer Hale and praised her performance cuz not just anyone can fill those shoes.

    • @UmbranLumen
      @UmbranLumen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's so cool! She does a great job for sure but there was something about Hellena's version lol

    • @madambutterfly1997
      @madambutterfly1997 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UmbranLumen agreed

    • @nickc7797
      @nickc7797 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jan also misses Helena

  • @amillybarb3012
    @amillybarb3012 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gurl where is the next update? I hope you're doing great with your personal life. I hope you update soon king🥰💅🏾

  • @Dumbech1
    @Dumbech1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    HI

  • @welfareprincess
    @welfareprincess 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ♥️♥️♥️

  • @welfareprincess
    @welfareprincess 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ily

  • @eljorge5680
    @eljorge5680 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video cost 4000 us dollars 💅💅💋

  • @Dumbech1
    @Dumbech1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @PrimarisBlackshieldDeathwatch
    @PrimarisBlackshieldDeathwatch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sup