@@Yufuf-t8q lmao you mean right. even the weakest viltrumites are island level and massively hypersonic+. homelander isnt even above multi-city block level+ and high supersonic speeds.
Also another note that I rarely see people point out, Viltrumites are accustomed to pain. Battles that actually challenge them will cause blood, guts and bones to splatter all over the place and they would still carry on fighting. Whereas Homelander who's never experienced any physical challenge, save from Soldier Boy and Butcher, would just writhe in agony over a battle with Omni-Man. Dude would probably cry for mercy the moment Omni-Man rips out his arm lol.
Youre not wrong, Homelander reminds me of a kid that just always got his way because.. Well he's got fucking superhuman powers in a world of a bunch of regulars, aaaand definitely has mommy issues.
Yeah, even if you said "okay these 2 superman expies must be equal in actual powers", Homelander's temperament and experience is basically a child with little to no actual combat experience throwing around toys, vs a (however many) years veteran of interplanetary and interdimensional wars with beings of somewhat equal power
I'm pretty confident he would just snap Homelander's neck and be done with it. He's not the type to drag out a fight if he knows he can end it quickly.
I agree, Homelander’s speed and strength is astronomically inferior to Omni-man. Homelander probably wouldn’t even process his death, it’d probably end like how Hughie’s girlfriend died with Omni-man speeding through essentially a pile of guts.
Don't forget that Nolan has centuries of hand to hand combat experience as well, for he was coaching Mark on many occasions of using various techniques. Remember he also had to defeat many of his own kind in order to survive the great Viltramite purge.
You forgot Nolan has conquered hundreds if not thousands of planets throughout his roughly thousand year lifespan. Homelander has never left Earth's orbit.
The primary difference is that Nolan has lived thousands of years as a warrior. Just to survive you needed to be strong. Homelander was born strong, and he'd never been tested. This one fact guarantees that Homelander would never beat Omni-Man.
One of the biggest things against Homelander is that he has never faced another individual of the same strength, other characters like Omni-Man & Superman have not only fought other similar level heroes/villains but have also faced people of their own races. Additionally Omni-Man is also trained in combat tactics which is somewhere I think Soldier-Boy and especially Butcher should have had an edge up on Homelander so Omni-Man would as well. Homelander is really just the biggest fish is his pond, most other characters he gets compared to not only have other big fish in their pond they also have been to other ponds.
Even in the comics, when he fought an identical clone of himself, he got absolutely obliterated. Even Maeve and her “prop sword” were able to leave a mark on him. Homelander is only really dangerous because he’s more or less propagandised to be the perfect hero and everyone else are just knockoffs to his perfection.
@@evanlight2550comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/black-noir-kills-homelander-5.jpg does this look like absolutely obliterated? He lost but it didn't look like a stomp
For real for all we know he’s been holding back his entire life because no one around him is strong enough for him to try… yet people love putting him down
@@evanlight2550 I wouldnt say "completely obliterated", yh he got destroyed, but he also literally destroyed BN lol, Noir was also a walking corpse after the fight against HL, so given that he never fought a character on his level before, he did pretty good.
Even that isn’t close. Immortal has thousands of years of experience, drew blood from Omni-man, which the hammer struggled to do, took hits from Omni-man, and outright won a direct punch clash between the two of them. It’s just not fair
The greatest feet of speed that homelander has ever shown us was slightly over Mach 5 whereas Omni man has been shown to move at the very minimum Lightspeed and at his maximum significantly faster than light multiple times. Not only in the comics but for people who don't read the comics in his most recent episodes in the Invincible series season 2 he was shown to travel to a completely different galaxies in less than 2 weeks... for reference the nearest galaxy to us is roughly 25,000 light years away(Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy) he was also shown to have the strength ability and flying ability to resist being pulled into the gravity of a black hole
I thought Andromeda was the closest galaxy to ours. Yeah Omni-Man is a planetary powerhouse with hundreds of years of combat experience, an insanely high pain tolerance and - patience, a concept Homelander can't seem to grasp.
@@captaincairoPT The Andromeda Galaxy is actually number 86 in that list of nearest galaxies. The Small Magellanic Cloud is number 23 and the large Magellanic Cloud is number 19. The nearest galaxy on the list is the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, altough its status as a galaxy is soemewhat disputed at the moment but generally excepted as one. (straight from google/NASA
I saw it when he was held down by Soldier Boy, Hughie, and Butcher. His face was like "Why am I being held down by this old man and two regular humans?"
One other thing to point out about omniman's power is that, as he described, he can "move himself freely through space," and thus can access his full strength using aerial leverage. He also has like 100's of years of combat experience from a planet whose entire purpose is war. Homelander is strong for his verse, but he's literally not even close to omniman.
i even kinda thought before watching "oh but he's only bled a couple times in the whole show, he's clearly way more durable than Viltrumites who bleed and get injured all the time" then i realized it's because they hit so much harder. Homelander is paste before it's even began
@@1Shithawk I'm sorry but even highballing Homelander that's not possible. Let's assume JUST for argument's sake that homelander and omni-man have equal stats, even though omni-man has solo'd entire planets with futuristic technology whose vanguard alone was giving the other heroes trouble and tanks orbital lasers meant to obliterate whatever they hit. Even IF you give homelander that, combat experience is a thing, and we're still talking about a 30-something celebrity manchild vs a 1000 year old warrior who has fought in numerous wars and fought thousands, if not millions of super-powered beings. What you're suggesting is that a weight-lifter with Floyd Mayweather's build could have a "Close Fight" with Mayweather in a boxing match. That simply isn't gonna happen. He will weave obvious and unpolished attacks, then land counter after counter. What I mean to say is, even at equal strength homelander's not touching this dude. Edit: I realize now you literally meant literally now I'm just like 🤦♀️
The plane issue was a displacement of weight issue that gets glossed over by super hero comics. It is posited that he trying to fly under and counter the weight of the plane and carry it to safety would not displace the weight and stress of distributive force evenly, but would creating a single point of force unto one point wherever he'd be pressing to hold up the plane and the areas where plane isn't getting an equal amount of carry would split the plane, assuming he's carrying the plane from the central underbelly of the plane.
Just so you know the biggest asteroid known is Ceres. It is slightly smaller than Texas (584 miles wide compared to 773), and is estimated to weigh somewhere around 1 quintillion tons (1,000,000,000,000,000,000). The average asteroid is moving between 40,000-55,000mph. Stopping an asteroid like this is magnitudes more impressive than any feat homelander has ever had. Easily trillions of times harder than stopping a flying bus(which homelander couldn't even do). Comparing homelander to Omniman is like comparing black widow to Thanos, they arent even on the same metric, let alone level.
I agree with all of this, but Omni-man diverted it, which requires a lot less force. Still way more impressive then homelander, but it's not the same as straight up stopping it
Being able to stop such asteroid is not about sheer strength, it's about applying force on the edge of structural strength of asteroid for a very very very long time. Instant hit would just crack asteroid with close to zero impact on asteroid's momentum.
Another thing from what you mentioned in that Homelander needs to be grounded and is basically nerfed while in the air, whilst Omniman can literally push off the air and still maintain 100% strength (also mentioned in the show) Great vid!
It's a moot point in light of all of that, but Omni-man also has centuries of intense training and combat experience. Before facing Soldier Boy, Homelander had basically never been in a serious fight with anyone of comparable power to himself. So even if their powers were equal (which as this video shows, they are not), I have no doubt that it would still be a curbstomp in Omni-man's favour just because he's so much more experienced. It's like a trained elite soldier going up against someone who's never even taken a self-defense class.
The reason Homelander says he couldn’t carry the plane isn’t that he isn’t strong enough it’s that because it would all be concentrated in such a small area (him comparative to the size of a plane) he’d just punch clean through trying which makes perfect sense. He gets stomped by omniman don’t get me wrong just clarifying that bit of info, we have no clue how much strength he has while flying Edit: just a note for the comments of “he said there’s nothing to push off” he did you’re right but he then also had the rest of the conversation about how he can’t fly at it without punching clean through or flipping it meaning he can still output force when flying we just don’t know how much or if it’s all from his acceleration and mass etc. And about the bus scene personally I don’t think it’s a good source just because he’s surprised by it we have no idea if he could lift it while flying, shit you’re very able to lift being thrown at you as a surprise could absolutely still knock you about irl and the boys is meant to be a more realistic take so I’m going with that logic. End of the day none of it matters when comparing the two because it’s basically a tank vs a toddler with a rubber hammer levels of unmatched XD
True. It's not about his strength. It's about the plane's structural integrity not being able to handle all of its weight being supported on a single stress point. Conversely, Omni-Man has indicated that Viltrumites are able to consciously control their position in space with the same amount of force they can generate physically, allowing them to provide full leverage to every blow they throw.
@@nolan8226They even sorta retconned this in the future by giving Kryptonians “tactile telekinesis”, which basically means you can lift anything as long as you’re strong enough and it won’t break from it’s own weight.
This is correct. The best Homelander could’ve done was guide the plane into the water by gently applying force to certain parts of the fuselage. Not enough that it’d break, but enough to hit the water without everyone dying. This would be incredibly difficult and require an inordinate level of delicacy, something I don’t think Homelander is remotely capable of.
Seems like a very odd oversight to think Homelander couldn't carry a plane because he was in the air. He clearly explained that no matter where he grabbed the plane, it would instantly tare apart, poking fun at superheroes of the past who handled planes as if they were cars.
That's cause in Homelander universe, Physics Actually apply like they would in the real world. In most fictional universes, That isnt the case. Most fictional Universes Throw the laws of Physics out the window.
His physics explanation doesnt make sense either tho. Like he can fly and lift his physical body to float in the air, but can’t use the same power to support the plane? It was honestly a dumb explanation.
It's because his flight "muscle" isn't that strong. It can maybe lift 1000lbs. He said he would punch through it if he accelerated himself enough to knock it up into the air. His physical strength is much stronger, but his flight "muscle" is not that strong.
It has nothing to do with "flight muscles". You can't push a plane that weighs tons with an area the size of your hands and not expect to puncture it. He could be infinitely strong, but a plane is designed to withstand pressures from certain angles. It isn't designed to take the full weight of the plane in an area the size of your hands anywhere on the hull.
There's a nuance here (I'm at 9:27 so maybe you bring this up) that shows a hacks reason why Omniman 100% beats Homelander even if they were closer in strength and durability. Homelander's inability to access his full strength while flying is a matter of leverage. This is actually the key to Viltrumite powers - they can create leverage at any point in space around their bodies (not sure what the spatial limits are). All other things being equal, Omniman would still have physics on his side.
i read that Omni-man actually creates negative mass on the opposite end of his body in which he is exerting strength allowing him to massively increase his power which is why his punches are so devastating
Invincible and the boys are just such vastly different settings. The boys is more grounded in its power level and level of technology out of necessity, it's about a group of mostly normal human beings killing people with super powers, if these people could punch a planet and shatter it the entire concept just falls apart because there's just no way to outplay or outsmart such raw power, while invincible has such a grander scale to it.
I just want to protest that Omni-man isn't actually a dark take on Superman. That's a red herring of the creators. The reality is Mark is the Superman and a fairly straight example except for basically finding himself in the Superhero-verse equivalent of a From Software setting. Omni-man is actually a GOOD ZOD. Well, a nicer Zod.
Given his place in the beginning of the show, he is clearly the equivalent to superman there. He is the one who descended to earth, and he's helping out the guardians of the globe, that are basically the justice league ripoff of this universe. Mark is a "what if Superman had a son?" kinda deal. It's a dark superman with a son that is more like good superman. Nothing else.
Flying through planets is a rarity, Viltrumites tend to die if actually trying that on healthy planets. Omni Man was successful because the core of his planet was unstable and they hit a specific area.
For real. Even if for whatever reason omniman was i'd dare say even slightly weaker than HL I think he'd still have a pretty good chance of coming out on top. A bigger stick doesn't count for much if you don't know how to swing it.
Nolan is on the whole another level - he is too strong even among his own race. For example - he fought against 3 viltrumites saving Mark occasionally. Not to mention others Omni-man battles. He's too strong and experienced comparing to Homelander. Homelander vs 1 weak viltrumite or maybe Immortal would be more fair fight. And I'm not sure about Immortal here - he's way more experienced than Homelander. He could defeat him.
nah immortal would rip him apart just as easily. immortal's physical strength is somewhat similar to omniman's strength but he is nowhere near as durable as him, so his body falters in such a fight. he was as physically tough as a vitrumite he'd probably be omniman's equal.
Homelander might be the strongest Supe on Earth, but Omni-Man is a Viltrumite, making him *much* more powerful. I think Superman vs Omni-Man would be a more interesting fight.
Omni man wins but can I just say, homelander did clearly explain that it’s “physically impossible not that he can’t do it via strength limitation and he’s right. Superman couldn’t actually lift a plane because that much pressure going onto the small surface area that is a pair of hands would simply shatter through the plane.
He wouldn't have to lift it. If he matches the speed of the plane he could've slowed it down to the point that he could have saved the people but he doesn't have the finesse or confidence
@@dannytarver4533 slow it down how? I’ll tell you as physics obviously isn’t a strong point here, with equal or approaching equal force in the opposite direction, causing a huge amount of pressure to build under his palms, a pressure that the material of the plane could not withstand as it is not designed to.
@@JamesAttwood-f3mlol bro how do planes come to a stop? It’s not gonna just stop it mid flight. Any smart super powerful person would know to just slow it down and have it descend at the right speeds and pressure. But again this is a fictional world so if they wanted him to stop it they could have but the did the as a way to show his limitations
@@JamesAttwood-f3m he wouldn't be going in the opposite direction he's not attacking it. Going the same direction as the plane at the same speed or a little faster and at that altitude with just enough pressure to slow it down. Going with the flow of the plane but using slightly opposing force to slow it down... and if you don't like that, they're TV shows, comics and cartoons
Add that Omni-Man is MUCH older and more experienced in combat on top of his mental toughness and martial prowess. Sure it looks like Nolan doesn't have any special fighting skills but that's because half the time, he has no need for any fancier than a simple straight efficient punch. He often shows is pure strength Nolan has centuries of combat experience due to his insane Vitrumite lifespan. Plus, his physiology means that even if he was injured by Homelander... his body would adapt quickly and also his healing factor is something Homelander definitely doesn't have. They did try to nuke Nolan and it did absolutely nothing... Vought did have a backup plan to nuke Homelander if he truly got out of hand. If a metal object can be shoved into Homelander's ear and cause injury, it would be child's play for Omni-Man shove his finger through the entire skull. Honestly, even a young Mark could probably beat Homelander eventually. The advantages of the Vitrumite heritage are too much. The main characters in Invincible would pretty much all be able to beat Homelander. But on the evil Superman archetype front, it would be much more interesting to see Sentry or Ultraman go up against Nolan.
It's not just Omni-Man. I can't think of a single Superman type character out there that Homelander is capable of defeating (he would not even survive against some of them).
@@SOD_GooseOkay but Batman beats/kills the justice league basically by himself including Superman lmao. Also Batman Who Laughs is just a Batman who killed Joker in his timeline, he becomes omnipotent and takes over his universe. Batman's wits are rarely rivaled. Also Wonder Woman would fs beat the brakes off Homelander lol. She isn't a Superman knock off tho, she is just Amazonian and all Amazonian warriors are like that, she is just the strongest one. She was also blessed by Demeter.
3:12, In comparison to the comic, Homelander’s attempt to stop a crashing plane ended it it breaking apart anyway (although he was stupidly ramming into the plane to stop it), but there is still the possibility that attempting to resist the forces pulling the plane out of the sky would also be enough to cause the plane to collapse, send him bursting through the hull like with Superman Returns’ version of Clark repeatedly damaging and losing his grip on the plane he attempted to save until it slowed down enough that he could fully steady it and put it on the ground (not that Homelander would be willing to risk failing to repeat Clark’s success to even try, as manipulating the ensuing tragedy to his and Vought’s advantage would seem far more profitable to someone like him) 4:43, As for durability, even if nukes were used against him and he wasn’t able to survive them, his advanced senses and ability to move and fly at supersonic speeds would theoretically allow him to avoid them, meaning he’d survive either way and civilians would be the only real casualties (if they targeted him while he was in a populated area).
There's also the fact that as you mentioned Homelander was said to be unstoppable from any of Earth's Arsenal. Last I checked, Omni-Man isn't from Earth, so...
While it is true that Viltremites can't heal from heat based attacks, you would need Star level heat over a long period of time to kill one, and Homelander has not shown his heat beams being anywhere near that hot.
Also, unlike Homelander, Nolan knows how to actually fight properly. He's got a few hundred years of practical combat experience fighting other super-powered beings. And remember, Nolan is a survivor of the original Viltrimite culling. That alone should say it all.
I wanted to expand on strength and durability of Omniman. Omniman was conditioned by a superpowered race. Like Spartans, he is the best of the best, because he caught off the rest. I think strength and durability aren't the best attributes to look at though. Omniman has a purpose that has guided him for thousands of years. Homelander doesn't have shit for purpose. Even if Omniman was in the same universe as Homelander, Homelander would be fighting for Earth's independence, but his purpose would only to have humans love him. I think Homelander would say fuck that and join Omniman without a fight. A
@@jdmmike7225 Perhaps of the remaining species. All we know is Omniman survived the purge of his species. Like the Spartans of legend. There is little difference in power amongst the elite survivors of a purge. It is best to look at a bell curve. The 1% doesn't vary in power as much as the 66% majority of a bell curve. Pure statistics analysis of the information we know.
@@jdmmike7225 are you crazy? He's NOT mid tier bro.. he want up against Thragg and even if he only lasted like 20 seconds, Thragg is the most powerful character IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE so in comparison he lasted a very long time.
Homelander would be more comparable to Immortal. Homelanders greatest strength feat is throwing a jet for miles in comics like a soft ball with ease(with one arm) but Omni man has done more on an easy day
3:18 The issue wasn't that he wasn't strong enough to lift the plane. The problem was that the force required to lift it would cause him to punch straight through it. It would be like trying to lift a balloon with a needle. You could lift it, but since all the pressure is in one small spot, it just pops the balloon
I always appreciated show explanation of the the physics about Homelander and the plane . By him trying to carry the plane it would've went right through hull .
Something a lot of people don't get, is that there lots of variability even within the same power. So, for example, most Supes in the Boys universe have SOME kind of extra durability, compared to humans. This durability often appears to be particularly resistant to blunt forces, such as that from punches or falls, rather than blades or bullets. So when it comes to super strength and durability, Soldier Boy seems to be one of the strongest Supes out there; those are pretty much his two main powers. But for those two powers, Homelander still appears to have the edge; it's why, after getting over the initial challenge, he was able to get Soldier Boy in a chokehold. Adding on his lasers, flight, and speed, Homelander beats Soldier Boy 90% of the time. Omni-Man has mostly the same power set as Homelander (with the exception of eye lasers, as far as I know), but everything is scaled up to eleven.
Something to note regarding Homelander and the plane; it's not clear if Homelander was refusing to carry the plane out of laziness/ulterior motive (using the deaths of the passengers as political leverage), OR if he correctly concluded the grim reality that it's not an issue of strength. Assuming Homelander had infinite strength, and didn't need to stand on a solid surface, it still may not matter in an effort to carry a falling plane. Homelander's strength, as the ability to exert massive force on an object without his own body structure crumbling or snapping, may not make a difference in carrying a falling plane, because it's like trying to carry a large sheet with the point of a pin; no matter how sturdy the pin is, it's just going to punch through the sheet. Homelander's strength and durability would keep himself from getting crushed or pushed out of the sky by the plane, but he would likely just break a hole through the plane, as he stated.
Definitely not 90% of the time. The last fight needed Homelander and Butcher to unite to defeat Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy is basically Homelander - ( heat vision + flight ) + Depowering blast + better combat experience. It'd be more akin to 60-40.
3:39 with the bus (and somewhat the plane too) issue is that he would go through the bus and plane, even if he were strong enough the problem is that him pushing against it would break the object he is pushing on. It’s like if I had a piece of paper that’s 80x110 FEET yes it weights a lot but, it would likely rip when trying to lift or push it.
7:48 You skipped physics, didn't you? Prob closer to a couple hundred TRILLION tons. About 100 time larger than the one that killed the all the non-avian dinosaurs.
@@twitterisstupid6947 Most likely a Homelander die hard fan, no point in trying to prove to them that Omni Man is stronger.... They would ignore the facts and believe in what they love the most. By the way Eric, no point in watching the video if you already made your mind up before. Funny comment, I give it a like 👍
If you follow the comic books, Nolan was one of the survivors when the Viltrumites killed their own to weed out the weakest. He also survived the virus that killed most of their species. He survived the alien race (I can't remember their name) where the race was more powerful than Viltrumites. Nolan is also thousands of years old with that many years of fighting experience. Homelanders fighting tactics are very limited because he doesn't fight anyone as powerful as him. If Homelander learned of the Nolans power prior to meeting him, he would do everything he could to befriend Omniman. Homelander is a timid bitch when faced with problems he can't solve. Out of his own survival, Homlander would kiss Nolans ass offering to assist in the Viltrimite takeover of Earth. Chances are Nolan would refuse and kill Homelander anyway. Homelander would have a lot to worry about than just Omniman. More Viltrumites are coming and Homelander would likley already be dead before they even arrive.
chances are Omni-Man would of killed Homelander as he is technically a threat to his Planetary Take over as he is the Only person on the planet with powers similar to his own. Although, Not equal, He is still strong in his own right, and thus a threat. Homelander would likely be the very first person he kills before taking over earth.
the fact that more often than not, viltrumites are compared more with SAIYANS than homelander, should already be more than enough evidence as to why it isn't even close.
Regarding soldier boy he’s the closest to homelander is strength. If Homelander is a 10 on a scale soldier boy is an 8.5. Homelander got the best of him in the first encounter and soldier did the same to him in the second encounter but homelander was conflicted with emotion. On top of that homelander is created to be the soldier boy ugrade.
Suggestions of the Day Black Adam(DCEU) vs Omniman(TV Show) (LA) Kang vs Spot(Spider-verse) Shazam( LA) vs Invincible(TV Show) Honorable Mentions Invincible vs Blue Beetle Captain Marvel vs General Zod(Both Live Action) Kratos(GOW 1-5) vs Kai(KFP) Good to have you back Danco. Who wins these fights and why do they win?
Homelander grew up never having a fair fight his entire life. Omni-Man had to survive other Viltrumites to earn the right to live and killed many more to earn his rank. This is like comparing a war vet to a gym bro
That's a retarded argument. Anyway it has nothing to do with experience. Omni man would literally one shot homelander. Even if homelander had "experience" he is only city level. Omni man one shots him with a finger
@@glidergoku Durability yes, but Chuck made a video on Gohan Vs Invincible, and while Gohan still stomped, the speed calcs for Mark had him faster. Given Bardock is leagues below Gohan, Nolan would still scale to Mark and thus have the speed advantage
I see spidey beating him. He got jumped by the Phoenix 5, technically 4: colossus, namor, cyclops, and I forgot the last member, and Emma frost died. Nevertheless, they broke every bone in his body before he threw a beast haymaker at colossus' chin damn there knocking him out. Of course this is avengers vs xmen spiderman, not tobey. But I still think tobey I'd comparable
Omni-Man is a planetary powerhouse with hundreds of years of combat experience, an insanely high pain tolerance and - patience, a concept Homelander can't seem to grasp.. Homelander is a child in the body of a grown superhuman body.
3:19 his limitation is not strength, the reason why he couldn't lift the plane is because all his force would just rip through the metal because he doesn't have enough surface to spread the force accordingly.
I read that plane thing very differently, I always thought it was more because the boys has more realistic physics than most superhero stuff and that therefore if he tried to carry the plane it would just break apart anyways.
The distance in power levels from Homelander to Omni-man is massive. Leagues and leagues. But it's smaller than the distance from Omni-Man to Superman.
Homelander didn't refuse to carry the plane because he wasn't physically strong enough, it was because physics don't allow him to. The Boys is in many ways more grounded when it comes to physics than Invincible. Something as small as a human putting pressure against a small point like the nose of a plane would make him go right through it instead of slowing it down. He said so himself.
Even if homelander could somehow hurt omniman, lets not forget youth and exuberance is no match for old age and treachery, omniman is over 2000 years old, and not only that, he was raised in a society where strength.... is.... Everything, hell Viltrumites go to planets to neutralize threats for takeover, homelander would just be a box that needs checked once he deals with the bigger threats first
Homelander is the superhero we all wanted , a actual representation of what one of these people would be like in real life , only held back by their own hand and the ability to destroy anything if they wanted to
I dunno. I am less convinced here than Hancock and Superman. For strength, remember how omniman was beaten up by the rest of the guardians, even if he did win in the end. For speed comparison, remember homelander was able to outrun a bomb explosion, managing to save the baby next to it _and_ the fellow _holding_ it. Lastly, that heat vision at full power to omniman's eyes? I think this one is _close_. Honestly, the only reason I think Omniman has a leg up, here, is that he has centuries of fighting experience against super strong flying super people.
Nah, it is making fun of superheroes that do that in comics/movies/shows. It's not a lack of power. It's that physics would make it impossible for it to work the way depicted unless you have something physics breaking like magic.
@@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd Superman can pass his durability on to what he's touching like a force field around his body. It's how he does all the 'superman' esque things
@@FrostDK98 That seems like something someone tried to tack on in retrospect in one of the many iterations of superman that was not part of his original character which I don't think should count for an argument like this.
@@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd Friend superman has had literally every single power at some point that has ever existed in comics. He is THE most broken hero of all time. Over the decades theyve thrown shit at the wall and seen what sticks. That ability is one of the ones that stuck so its a power every version has
Not to mention that Omniman was voiced by J.K. Simmons. Which is equivalent to a 30% boost in physical capabilities.
" ... you're serious?"
“I’M THE MAN WHO’S GONNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN! WITH THE LEMONS!”
Lmao perfect comment
was he the guy who wrote the harry potter books
@@jennylong8326 Yes, however, before transitioning, she went by, J.K. Rowling.
“Omni-Man is a warrior, Homelander is a bully”
-A wise man
more like:
Omni-Man is the GOD of the warrior, and homelander is just a bully
Home lander is a kid in a mans body that can't fight
heard this on deathbattle the other day not wrong
I haven't even watch both show and even I know it a fact 💀
hey, that's from Death Battle.
Yup. The way they're portrayed in _Invincible,_ I think that _any_ Viltrumate would twist Homelander's head off his shoulders in about half a second.
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Maybe not that fast but yeah
@@Yufuf-t8qLmao cope.
Even the weakest Viltrumite would stomp Homelander
@@Yufuf-t8qSmoking copium
@@Yufuf-t8q lmao you mean right. even the weakest viltrumites are island level and massively hypersonic+. homelander isnt even above multi-city block level+ and high supersonic speeds.
Homelander is a national threat whereas OmniMan is a *planetary* threat. Homelander is to OmniMan what a baseline human is to Homelander.
Omniman wins this fight so hard that it is insulting. It is like comparing a PS5 to a Gameboy color just because they both play games
@@driftingwolf0 Pretty appropriate!
@@driftingwolf0 bro even a game boy is closer to winning than Homelander
Omni man terrorizing a whole galaxy lol
@@francolukhele1657 omniman only terrorizes planets. His entire world is helping him extinguish the galaxy, so that doesn't count
Also another note that I rarely see people point out, Viltrumites are accustomed to pain. Battles that actually challenge them will cause blood, guts and bones to splatter all over the place and they would still carry on fighting. Whereas Homelander who's never experienced any physical challenge, save from Soldier Boy and Butcher, would just writhe in agony over a battle with Omni-Man. Dude would probably cry for mercy the moment Omni-Man rips out his arm lol.
Omni man feeding homelanders heart to him
@@abdouaboud7490 "Remember what I promised you"
Youre not wrong, Homelander reminds me of a kid that just always got his way because.. Well he's got fucking superhuman powers in a world of a bunch of regulars, aaaand definitely has mommy issues.
Yeah, even if you said "okay these 2 superman expies must be equal in actual powers", Homelander's temperament and experience is basically a child with little to no actual combat experience throwing around toys, vs a (however many) years veteran of interplanetary and interdimensional wars with beings of somewhat equal power
So they're souped up saiyans?
I love how when Omni man flies fast enough, he creates a literal nuclear level explosion when he collides with anything.
I loved that too. Just fly around a planet until you roast the atmosphere and burns the entire surface!
I'm pretty confident he would just snap Homelander's neck and be done with it. He's not the type to drag out a fight if he knows he can end it quickly.
I agree, Homelander’s speed and strength is astronomically inferior to Omni-man. Homelander probably wouldn’t even process his death, it’d probably end like how Hughie’s girlfriend died with Omni-man speeding through essentially a pile of guts.
For starters he kileld debbie in it....
Whcih onestly should have meant omniman let him linger longer and tortured him bit by bit.
@@taddad2641 The reason he took so long was because he wanted to Kill Homelander's Image before making him eat his own heart
@@John-Stark hear me out but i think the heart is one of the tastiest parts of any body (animal, human, etc.)
@@Minced_Prime-J4dgm3nt...How do you know the Human part?
Don't forget that Nolan has centuries of hand to hand combat experience as well, for he was coaching Mark on many occasions of using various techniques. Remember he also had to defeat many of his own kind in order to survive the great Viltramite purge.
He was born after the purge
Omniman didn't have to survive the purge. It came before him.
thousands.
thousands of years.
You forgot Nolan has conquered hundreds if not thousands of planets throughout his roughly thousand year lifespan. Homelander has never left Earth's orbit.
The primary difference is that Nolan has lived thousands of years as a warrior. Just to survive you needed to be strong. Homelander was born strong, and he'd never been tested. This one fact guarantees that Homelander would never beat Omni-Man.
One of the biggest things against Homelander is that he has never faced another individual of the same strength, other characters like Omni-Man & Superman have not only fought other similar level heroes/villains but have also faced people of their own races. Additionally Omni-Man is also trained in combat tactics which is somewhere I think Soldier-Boy and especially Butcher should have had an edge up on Homelander so Omni-Man would as well. Homelander is really just the biggest fish is his pond, most other characters he gets compared to not only have other big fish in their pond they also have been to other ponds.
Even in the comics, when he fought an identical clone of himself, he got absolutely obliterated. Even Maeve and her “prop sword” were able to leave a mark on him. Homelander is only really dangerous because he’s more or less propagandised to be the perfect hero and everyone else are just knockoffs to his perfection.
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does this look like absolutely obliterated? He lost but it didn't look like a stomp
For real for all we know he’s been holding back his entire life because no one around him is strong enough for him to try… yet people love putting him down
@@evanlight2550 I wouldnt say "completely obliterated", yh he got destroyed, but he also literally destroyed BN lol, Noir was also a walking corpse after the fight against HL, so given that he never fought a character on his level before, he did pretty good.
At least in show, he fought Soldier Boy pretty decently
I think Homelander vs. Immortal would be a closer fight, and immortal is the example what would happen to Homelander if he went 1v1 with Omni-Man.
Nah immortal would beat him too
Not if Homelander uses his eye lasers. Immortal gets sliced up.@@zuriiiii77
Immortal, while not able to beat Omni-man, actually gave him a good run for his money. I think hands down Homelander would lose to Immortal.
Even that isn’t close. Immortal has thousands of years of experience, drew blood from Omni-man, which the hammer struggled to do, took hits from Omni-man, and outright won a direct punch clash between the two of them. It’s just not fair
Immortal can easily beat homelander too😂
The greatest feet of speed that homelander has ever shown us was slightly over Mach 5 whereas Omni man has been shown to move at the very minimum Lightspeed and at his maximum significantly faster than light multiple times. Not only in the comics but for people who don't read the comics in his most recent episodes in the Invincible series season 2 he was shown to travel to a completely different galaxies in less than 2 weeks... for reference the nearest galaxy to us is roughly 25,000 light years away(Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy) he was also shown to have the strength ability and flying ability to resist being pulled into the gravity of a black hole
I thought Andromeda was the closest galaxy to ours.
Yeah Omni-Man is a planetary powerhouse with hundreds of years of combat experience, an insanely high pain tolerance and - patience, a concept Homelander can't seem to grasp.
@@captaincairoPT The Andromeda Galaxy is actually number 86 in that list of nearest galaxies. The Small Magellanic Cloud is number 23 and the large Magellanic Cloud is number 19. The nearest galaxy on the list is the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, altough its status as a galaxy is soemewhat disputed at the moment but generally excepted as one. (straight from google/NASA
@@harper3579 damn, you just turned my world upside down. Idk why I vividly remember Andromeda being the closest... thanks for taking the time!!
homelander was able to carry over 200+ pounds miles away before a bomg went off and bombs go off extremwly fast
@@rocothebernesemountaindog4919And Omni man could lift THOUSANDS of pounds and move around light speed...so what's your point.
I love how for the first few hits, you can see the confusion on Homelander's face like "Wait, why am I in pain?"
I saw it when he was held down by Soldier Boy, Hughie, and Butcher. His face was like "Why am I being held down by this old man and two regular humans?"
@@ryanleatigaga7596 or when Maeve gave him a bloody nose in their fight
Omni man would beat tf outta homelander
@@TheaterCandyProductions Not just that; I think Omniman would accidentally kill him 😂
So when are we going to see them fight ?
One other thing to point out about omniman's power is that, as he described, he can "move himself freely through space," and thus can access his full strength using aerial leverage. He also has like 100's of years of combat experience from a planet whose entire purpose is war. Homelander is strong for his verse, but he's literally not even close to omniman.
100s? the guy is like 4500 yrs old,and has been conquering and Genociding Planets for thousands of years.
i even kinda thought before watching "oh but he's only bled a couple times in the whole show, he's clearly way more durable than Viltrumites who bleed and get injured all the time"
then i realized it's because they hit so much harder. Homelander is paste before it's even began
@@TarsilyWasTakenespecially becahse when viltrumites bleed it’s mostly from very strong beings or entities
They would literally be close to each other if the fought though.
@@1Shithawk I'm sorry but even highballing Homelander that's not possible. Let's assume JUST for argument's sake that homelander and omni-man have equal stats, even though omni-man has solo'd entire planets with futuristic technology whose vanguard alone was giving the other heroes trouble and tanks orbital lasers meant to obliterate whatever they hit.
Even IF you give homelander that, combat experience is a thing, and we're still talking about a 30-something celebrity manchild vs a 1000 year old warrior who has fought in numerous wars and fought thousands, if not millions of super-powered beings.
What you're suggesting is that a weight-lifter with Floyd Mayweather's build could have a "Close Fight" with Mayweather in a boxing match. That simply isn't gonna happen. He will weave obvious and unpolished attacks, then land counter after counter. What I mean to say is, even at equal strength homelander's not touching this dude.
Edit: I realize now you literally meant literally now I'm just like 🤦♀️
The plane issue was a displacement of weight issue that gets glossed over by super hero comics.
It is posited that he trying to fly under and counter the weight of the plane and carry it to safety would not displace the weight and stress of distributive force evenly, but would creating a single point of force unto one point wherever he'd be pressing to hold up the plane and the areas where plane isn't getting an equal amount of carry would split the plane, assuming he's carrying the plane from the central underbelly of the plane.
Omni-Man destroyes Homelander.
OMNI-MAN NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Fr. He one-taps
JK Simmons dwarfs Anthony's Starr.... see what I did 😏
@KillznerEditz well.... 2 tap. Let's give the super man-baby a lil credit 😂
Absolutely right omni-man win)
Just so you know the biggest asteroid known is Ceres. It is slightly smaller than Texas (584 miles wide compared to 773), and is estimated to weigh somewhere around 1 quintillion tons (1,000,000,000,000,000,000). The average asteroid is moving between 40,000-55,000mph. Stopping an asteroid like this is magnitudes more impressive than any feat homelander has ever had. Easily trillions of times harder than stopping a flying bus(which homelander couldn't even do). Comparing homelander to Omniman is like comparing black widow to Thanos, they arent even on the same metric, let alone level.
I agree with all of this, but Omni-man diverted it, which requires a lot less force. Still way more impressive then homelander, but it's not the same as straight up stopping it
@@LordChaiinsawhe deflected it
I was going to write something similar. People don't have a concept how BIG things are in space. To even deflect an asteroid is amazing.
Being able to stop such asteroid is not about sheer strength, it's about applying force on the edge of structural strength of asteroid for a very very very long time. Instant hit would just crack asteroid with close to zero impact on asteroid's momentum.
Another thing from what you mentioned in that Homelander needs to be grounded and is basically nerfed while in the air, whilst Omniman can literally push off the air and still maintain 100% strength (also mentioned in the show)
Great vid!
It's a moot point in light of all of that, but Omni-man also has centuries of intense training and combat experience. Before facing Soldier Boy, Homelander had basically never been in a serious fight with anyone of comparable power to himself. So even if their powers were equal (which as this video shows, they are not), I have no doubt that it would still be a curbstomp in Omni-man's favour just because he's so much more experienced. It's like a trained elite soldier going up against someone who's never even taken a self-defense class.
IT'S TIME FOR A DEATH BATTLE!
Homelander also never trains. Maybe if he trained he could be that much stronger
Heavy Weight champion vs. Average bodybuilder.
The reason Homelander says he couldn’t carry the plane isn’t that he isn’t strong enough it’s that because it would all be concentrated in such a small area (him comparative to the size of a plane) he’d just punch clean through trying which makes perfect sense. He gets stomped by omniman don’t get me wrong just clarifying that bit of info, we have no clue how much strength he has while flying
Edit: just a note for the comments of “he said there’s nothing to push off” he did you’re right but he then also had the rest of the conversation about how he can’t fly at it without punching clean through or flipping it meaning he can still output force when flying we just don’t know how much or if it’s all from his acceleration and mass etc. And about the bus scene personally I don’t think it’s a good source just because he’s surprised by it we have no idea if he could lift it while flying, shit you’re very able to lift being thrown at you as a surprise could absolutely still knock you about irl and the boys is meant to be a more realistic take so I’m going with that logic. End of the day none of it matters when comparing the two because it’s basically a tank vs a toddler with a rubber hammer levels of unmatched XD
True. It's not about his strength. It's about the plane's structural integrity not being able to handle all of its weight being supported on a single stress point.
Conversely, Omni-Man has indicated that Viltrumites are able to consciously control their position in space with the same amount of force they can generate physically, allowing them to provide full leverage to every blow they throw.
Yeah I always saw that as the boys recognizing how Superman catching a plane just makes no sense from a physics standpoint
i was about to comment this, but you beat me too it, haha, thank you
@@nolan8226They even sorta retconned this in the future by giving Kryptonians “tactile telekinesis”, which basically means you can lift anything as long as you’re strong enough and it won’t break from it’s own weight.
This is correct. The best Homelander could’ve done was guide the plane into the water by gently applying force to certain parts of the fuselage. Not enough that it’d break, but enough to hit the water without everyone dying.
This would be incredibly difficult and require an inordinate level of delicacy, something I don’t think Homelander is remotely capable of.
Omni man is a spartan, Homelander is a Karen
Seems like a very odd oversight to think Homelander couldn't carry a plane because he was in the air. He clearly explained that no matter where he grabbed the plane, it would instantly tare apart, poking fun at superheroes of the past who handled planes as if they were cars.
its because a live action series has limits compared to animation
@@arra_24s33 superman did it in the movie. It's actually because he doesn't have all the same powers as superman😂
So planes have no structural areas?
@@jonathansloan3140I dont think what supes did checks out in physics.
@@alispeed5095 Supes has a biofield of some kind that lets him grab things significantly larger than him. I forget what it's called
Homelander didn't state he couldn't lift the plane, he just explained a clear physics problem is all.
That's cause in Homelander universe, Physics Actually apply like they would in the real world. In most fictional universes, That isnt the case. Most fictional Universes Throw the laws of Physics out the window.
@@stevencaskey9440 jeez you surely are captain obvious aren’t you?
@@Stoops_AhoyYou don’t have to be a bitch about it
His physics explanation doesnt make sense either tho. Like he can fly and lift his physical body to float in the air, but can’t use the same power to support the plane? It was honestly a dumb explanation.
@@blkmag1c36 no the physics problem here is if he were to lift the plane in the air the plane would snap in 2 because of how physics works.
My man said Omna-man…Omna man too shoot 😂 awesome vid bro really good insight!
Homelander explained the plane thing. He said he would just punch right through it cause of his strength...I don't get people saying he couldn't do it
Yeah, if you gave him a plane of the same size on the ground he could easily pick it up and throw it, it’s just the physics involved that stop him.
@@Th1sIsMyLegacy yeah, I went back and watched it. He does say he needs to be on the ground to do it
Yeah, while I agree Omni-man is stronger, the plane example is more along the lines of The Boys adhering more to physics than Invincible does.
It's because his flight "muscle" isn't that strong. It can maybe lift 1000lbs. He said he would punch through it if he accelerated himself enough to knock it up into the air. His physical strength is much stronger, but his flight "muscle" is not that strong.
It has nothing to do with "flight muscles". You can't push a plane that weighs tons with an area the size of your hands and not expect to puncture it. He could be infinitely strong, but a plane is designed to withstand pressures from certain angles. It isn't designed to take the full weight of the plane in an area the size of your hands anywhere on the hull.
There's a nuance here (I'm at 9:27 so maybe you bring this up) that shows a hacks reason why Omniman 100% beats Homelander even if they were closer in strength and durability. Homelander's inability to access his full strength while flying is a matter of leverage. This is actually the key to Viltrumite powers - they can create leverage at any point in space around their bodies (not sure what the spatial limits are). All other things being equal, Omniman would still have physics on his side.
i read that Omni-man actually creates negative mass on the opposite end of his body in which he is exerting strength allowing him to massively increase his power which is why his punches are so devastating
@@modjoe4107 doesn't that amount to the same thing though?
Invincible and the boys are just such vastly different settings. The boys is more grounded in its power level and level of technology out of necessity, it's about a group of mostly normal human beings killing people with super powers, if these people could punch a planet and shatter it the entire concept just falls apart because there's just no way to outplay or outsmart such raw power, while invincible has such a grander scale to it.
Homelander just bullies normal people
While omni man bullies other superheroes
Homelander bullies everyone lol
Did you even watch the show? Homelander also bullies his fellow supes.
@@dertyp3463 soldier boy and queen meave left the chat
@@saintsuniverse poor Timothy :(
Omniman does not just bully other superheroes, he simply obliterates them. They are like cockroaches to him.
I just want to protest that Omni-man isn't actually a dark take on Superman. That's a red herring of the creators. The reality is Mark is the Superman and a fairly straight example except for basically finding himself in the Superhero-verse equivalent of a From Software setting. Omni-man is actually a GOOD ZOD. Well, a nicer Zod.
Given his place in the beginning of the show, he is clearly the equivalent to superman there. He is the one who descended to earth, and he's helping out the guardians of the globe, that are basically the justice league ripoff of this universe. Mark is a "what if Superman had a son?" kinda deal. It's a dark superman with a son that is more like good superman. Nothing else.
The BEST take I've heard for Omni-Man is that "He's not evil. He's a soldier"
He's kind of more like a mixture of Zod and Vegeta
Zod is still an evil Superman, so the analogy holds.
Exactly. Invincible is not a “what if Superman was evil” story, it’s a “what if Superman had an evil dad” story
In the comics viltrumites literally singlehandedly destroy planets by just flying through them and omni man is one of the strongest viltrumites
Flying through planets is a rarity, Viltrumites tend to die if actually trying that on healthy planets.
Omni Man was successful because the core of his planet was unstable and they hit a specific area.
“Not to mention that Omni-Man can fight, Homelander can not fight. That is legit the end of the argument”
*Classicmand 2022*
For real. Even if for whatever reason omniman was i'd dare say even slightly weaker than HL I think he'd still have a pretty good chance of coming out on top. A bigger stick doesn't count for much if you don't know how to swing it.
Omniman doesn't have to fight Homelander just like a Tiger doesn't have to fight a squirrel.
As death battle put it , “one is a bully, and the other is a soldier.”
Nolan is on the whole another level - he is too strong even among his own race. For example - he fought against 3 viltrumites saving Mark occasionally. Not to mention others Omni-man battles. He's too strong and experienced comparing to Homelander. Homelander vs 1 weak viltrumite or maybe Immortal would be more fair fight. And I'm not sure about Immortal here - he's way more experienced than Homelander. He could defeat him.
nah immortal would rip him apart just as easily. immortal's physical strength is somewhat similar to omniman's strength but he is nowhere near as durable as him, so his body falters in such a fight. he was as physically tough as a vitrumite he'd probably be omniman's equal.
Death Battle but it perfectly with Omni Man’s opening words to Homelander. “I’m going to feed you your own heart.”
OmniMan folds Homelander not 2, not 4, but 128 times at least. End of debate.
Homelander might be the strongest Supe on Earth, but Omni-Man is a Viltrumite, making him *much* more powerful. I think Superman vs Omni-Man would be a more interesting fight.
Overall I think Superman would win but omniman hoes for the kill giving him the edge in a few fights
Put him up against Injustice Superman. That guy'll go for the kill.@@reecewiczy7758
Bor wat forget Omniman what about thrag him a superman fighting would be overkill x2 cuz he basically like Black ashamed
Strongest supe on earth in invincible is spawn lol
It's the same thing with the omni man and homelander ish superman one taps 💀
Omni man wins but can I just say, homelander did clearly explain that it’s “physically impossible not that he can’t do it via strength limitation and he’s right. Superman couldn’t actually lift a plane because that much pressure going onto the small surface area that is a pair of hands would simply shatter through the plane.
He wouldn't have to lift it. If he matches the speed of the plane he could've slowed it down to the point that he could have saved the people but he doesn't have the finesse or confidence
He did in live action🤦 don't know what u are smoking, but whatever it is, i want some🤣🤣🤣
@@dannytarver4533 slow it down how? I’ll tell you as physics obviously isn’t a strong point here, with equal or approaching equal force in the opposite direction, causing a huge amount of pressure to build under his palms, a pressure that the material of the plane could not withstand as it is not designed to.
@@JamesAttwood-f3mlol bro how do planes come to a stop? It’s not gonna just stop it mid flight. Any smart super powerful person would know to just slow it down and have it descend at the right speeds and pressure. But again this is a fictional world so if they wanted him to stop it they could have but the did the as a way to show his limitations
@@JamesAttwood-f3m he wouldn't be going in the opposite direction he's not attacking it. Going the same direction as the plane at the same speed or a little faster and at that altitude with just enough pressure to slow it down. Going with the flow of the plane but using slightly opposing force to slow it down... and if you don't like that, they're TV shows, comics and cartoons
There’s a guy called TyLearned on TH-cam claiming you plagiarize all your content
Add that Omni-Man is MUCH older and more experienced in combat on top of his mental toughness and martial prowess.
Sure it looks like Nolan doesn't have any special fighting skills but that's because half the time, he has no need for any fancier than a simple straight efficient punch. He often shows is pure strength Nolan has centuries of combat experience due to his insane Vitrumite lifespan. Plus, his physiology means that even if he was injured by Homelander... his body would adapt quickly and also his healing factor is something Homelander definitely doesn't have.
They did try to nuke Nolan and it did absolutely nothing... Vought did have a backup plan to nuke Homelander if he truly got out of hand. If a metal object can be shoved into Homelander's ear and cause injury, it would be child's play for Omni-Man shove his finger through the entire skull.
Honestly, even a young Mark could probably beat Homelander eventually. The advantages of the Vitrumite heritage are too much. The main characters in Invincible would pretty much all be able to beat Homelander.
But on the evil Superman archetype front, it would be much more interesting to see Sentry or Ultraman go up against Nolan.
Sentry will wreck Nolan...easy
Well mark is the most powerful viltrumite im pretty sure eventually
It's not just Omni-Man. I can't think of a single Superman type character out there that Homelander is capable of defeating (he would not even survive against some of them).
wonder woman, and batman
@@recrealotdefinitely not batman, did you see Batman V Superman
I agree. Homelander is a genetically engineered human. Omni-man is from an other -world DNA line. Stronger, faster.
@@SOD_GooseOkay but Batman beats/kills the justice league basically by himself including Superman lmao. Also Batman Who Laughs is just a Batman who killed Joker in his timeline, he becomes omnipotent and takes over his universe. Batman's wits are rarely rivaled. Also Wonder Woman would fs beat the brakes off Homelander lol. She isn't a Superman knock off tho, she is just Amazonian and all Amazonian warriors are like that, she is just the strongest one. She was also blessed by Demeter.
@@TheDustinW i never said that
3:12, In comparison to the comic, Homelander’s attempt to stop a crashing plane ended it it breaking apart anyway (although he was stupidly ramming into the plane to stop it), but there is still the possibility that attempting to resist the forces pulling the plane out of the sky would also be enough to cause the plane to collapse, send him bursting through the hull like with Superman Returns’ version of Clark repeatedly damaging and losing his grip on the plane he attempted to save until it slowed down enough that he could fully steady it and put it on the ground (not that Homelander would be willing to risk failing to repeat Clark’s success to even try, as manipulating the ensuing tragedy to his and Vought’s advantage would seem far more profitable to someone like him)
4:43, As for durability, even if nukes were used against him and he wasn’t able to survive them, his advanced senses and ability to move and fly at supersonic speeds would theoretically allow him to avoid them, meaning he’d survive either way and civilians would be the only real casualties (if they targeted him while he was in a populated area).
There's also the fact that as you mentioned Homelander was said to be unstoppable from any of Earth's Arsenal. Last I checked, Omni-Man isn't from Earth, so...
If they were to fight my concern is that Homelander has the eye lasers and that might give him an edge as a ranged weapon.
@@ZurroundOmni man can use thunderclaps for long range attacks
@@Zurroundomni man is so much faster and stronger there is nothing homelander could do to win
@@Zurroundlasers won’t even tickle him lmaooo
While it is true that Viltremites can't heal from heat based attacks, you would need Star level heat over a long period of time to kill one, and Homelander has not shown his heat beams being anywhere near that hot.
Also, unlike Homelander, Nolan knows how to actually fight properly. He's got a few hundred years of practical combat experience fighting other super-powered beings.
And remember, Nolan is a survivor of the original Viltrimite culling. That alone should say it all.
Quick reminder that Nolan was born after the Viltrimite Purge.
Damn reusing the same exact script from your old vids is crazy
Anyone who has seen both shows knows it's not close. Great video.
It's the comics, for me.
The Death battle for me
@@nightzephyr248I can’t get into the Boys comics. It’s so raunchy just to say it is
@@CuhhDiii True
@@CuhhDiii yall do know this content has stolen stuff in it right?
I wanted to expand on strength and durability of Omniman. Omniman was conditioned by a superpowered race. Like Spartans, he is the best of the best, because he caught off the rest.
I think strength and durability aren't the best attributes to look at though. Omniman has a purpose that has guided him for thousands of years. Homelander doesn't have shit for purpose. Even if Omniman was in the same universe as Homelander, Homelander would be fighting for Earth's independence, but his purpose would only to have humans love him. I think Homelander would say fuck that and join Omniman without a fight. A
He's actually not the best of the best. He's actually kinda mid tier in terms of elite Viltrumites. Which is scary in its own right.
@@jdmmike7225 Perhaps of the remaining species. All we know is Omniman survived the purge of his species. Like the Spartans of legend. There is little difference in power amongst the elite survivors of a purge. It is best to look at a bell curve. The 1% doesn't vary in power as much as the 66% majority of a bell curve. Pure statistics analysis of the information we know.
@@Spatial_Computer That said, Viltrumites gain power as they age as well, which is why Thragg can pretty much ragdoll anyone.
@@jdmmike7225 are you crazy? He's NOT mid tier bro.. he want up against Thragg and even if he only lasted like 20 seconds, Thragg is the most powerful character IN THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE so in comparison he lasted a very long time.
The greatest thing Omni man ever said to homelander was, "I'm going to feed you your own heart!"
And what's funny is that he made his promise at the end
Homelander would be more comparable to Immortal. Homelanders greatest strength feat is throwing a jet for miles in comics like a soft ball with ease(with one arm) but Omni man has done more on an easy day
Homelander is basically the immortal with out the thousands of years of experience
3:18 The issue wasn't that he wasn't strong enough to lift the plane. The problem was that the force required to lift it would cause him to punch straight through it. It would be like trying to lift a balloon with a needle. You could lift it, but since all the pressure is in one small spot, it just pops the balloon
Exactly, or he just wasn't wanting to help
Homelander is human mimicking a god
Omni Man is a God among humans
Death Battle already had that fight last year and Omi man Easley won that fight .
DanCo >
(Except for the animation)
Omi man literally had homelander eat his own hard saying remember what i promised.
One of the most one sided fight in Death Battle and everyone actually agree on who would won
@@TheOne0867 danco is legit stealing 😂
I always appreciated show explanation of the the physics about Homelander and the plane . By him trying to carry the plane it would've went right through hull .
Something a lot of people don't get, is that there lots of variability even within the same power. So, for example, most Supes in the Boys universe have SOME kind of extra durability, compared to humans. This durability often appears to be particularly resistant to blunt forces, such as that from punches or falls, rather than blades or bullets. So when it comes to super strength and durability, Soldier Boy seems to be one of the strongest Supes out there; those are pretty much his two main powers. But for those two powers, Homelander still appears to have the edge; it's why, after getting over the initial challenge, he was able to get Soldier Boy in a chokehold. Adding on his lasers, flight, and speed, Homelander beats Soldier Boy 90% of the time.
Omni-Man has mostly the same power set as Homelander (with the exception of eye lasers, as far as I know), but everything is scaled up to eleven.
Something to note regarding Homelander and the plane; it's not clear if Homelander was refusing to carry the plane out of laziness/ulterior motive (using the deaths of the passengers as political leverage), OR if he correctly concluded the grim reality that it's not an issue of strength. Assuming Homelander had infinite strength, and didn't need to stand on a solid surface, it still may not matter in an effort to carry a falling plane. Homelander's strength, as the ability to exert massive force on an object without his own body structure crumbling or snapping, may not make a difference in carrying a falling plane, because it's like trying to carry a large sheet with the point of a pin; no matter how sturdy the pin is, it's just going to punch through the sheet. Homelander's strength and durability would keep himself from getting crushed or pushed out of the sky by the plane, but he would likely just break a hole through the plane, as he stated.
Definitely not 90% of the time. The last fight needed Homelander and Butcher to unite to defeat Soldier Boy. Soldier Boy is basically Homelander - ( heat vision + flight ) + Depowering blast + better combat experience. It'd be more akin to 60-40.
3:39 with the bus (and somewhat the plane too) issue is that he would go through the bus and plane, even if he were strong enough the problem is that him pushing against it would break the object he is pushing on. It’s like if I had a piece of paper that’s 80x110 FEET yes it weights a lot but, it would likely rip when trying to lift or push it.
BRO THE “On nuh man” was killing me 😭😭😭😭
Bro I had to cut it off I couldn’t take it anymore 😂
well that would be an insane end scene to season 4 of the boys to have omniman show up and just snap him like a twig - no intro, no explanation
7:48 You skipped physics, didn't you? Prob closer to a couple hundred TRILLION tons. About 100 time larger than the one that killed the all the non-avian dinosaurs.
Exactly, Homelander would crush him, not even a challenge.
homelander would be dust before omni man even gets a nose bleed mate what are you smoking
@@twitterisstupid6947 Most likely a Homelander die hard fan, no point in trying to prove to them that Omni Man is stronger.... They would ignore the facts and believe in what they love the most. By the way Eric, no point in watching the video if you already made your mind up before. Funny comment, I give it a like 👍
Being stabbed in the ear can make homelander bleed, it took a whole orbital strike for Omni-man to have a single nose bleed
Yea omniman is just from a more powerful universe, I don’t think there’s much in invincible that homelander would actually be able to handle
If you follow the comic books, Nolan was one of the survivors when the Viltrumites killed their own to weed out the weakest. He also survived the virus that killed most of their species. He survived the alien race (I can't remember their name) where the race was more powerful than Viltrumites. Nolan is also thousands of years old with that many years of fighting experience. Homelanders fighting tactics are very limited because he doesn't fight anyone as powerful as him.
If Homelander learned of the Nolans power prior to meeting him, he would do everything he could to befriend Omniman. Homelander is a timid bitch when faced with problems he can't solve. Out of his own survival, Homlander would kiss Nolans ass offering to assist in the Viltrimite takeover of Earth. Chances are Nolan would refuse and kill Homelander anyway.
Homelander would have a lot to worry about than just Omniman. More Viltrumites are coming and Homelander would likley already be dead before they even arrive.
chances are Omni-Man would of killed Homelander as he is technically a threat to his Planetary Take over as he is the Only person on the planet with powers similar to his own. Although, Not equal, He is still strong in his own right, and thus a threat. Homelander would likely be the very first person he kills before taking over earth.
I thought Omniman said the purge happened before he was born?
@@aernlor no he was one of its survivors. His identity was left secret about his father so he wouldnt be instantly killed.
Make a KRATOS vs OMNI-MAN video that would be crazy
Damn that’d be close
Do the next video on why Superman vs Omni man isn’t even close.
Superman destroys Omni man.
This isn’t a fight. It’s absolute massacre. Omni man wipes the streets with homelander
8:55 Holding back…? HOLDING BACK?! The man nearly BODIED the planet with his son’s face and that’s holding back??? 💀😂💀
I think Deathbattle actually did a pretty solid job with this matchup.
Home lander did too much damage for it to be accurate that battle was more akin to a blood lusted invincible vs homelander
the fact that more often than not, viltrumites are compared more with SAIYANS than homelander, should already be more than enough evidence as to why it isn't even close.
In terms of potential homelanders potential for power is limitless know one really knows how strong he can become only how strong he is currently.
Yeah, i dont know why this is even a debate Omni-Man would wipe the floor with Homelander and Soldier-Boy at the same time.
Regarding soldier boy he’s the closest to homelander is strength. If Homelander is a 10 on a scale soldier boy is an 8.5. Homelander got the best of him in the first encounter and soldier did the same to him in the second encounter but homelander was conflicted with emotion. On top of that homelander is created to be the soldier boy ugrade.
Just randomly came across your channel with the Batman Spider-Man video. You have some great content!
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Invincible vs Blue Beetle
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Good to have you back Danco. Who wins these fights and why do they win?
Homelander grew up never having a fair fight his entire life. Omni-Man had to survive other Viltrumites to earn the right to live and killed many more to earn his rank. This is like comparing a war vet to a gym bro
That's a retarded argument. Anyway it has nothing to do with experience. Omni man would literally one shot homelander. Even if homelander had "experience" he is only city level. Omni man one shots him with a finger
3:29 homelander actually said he might not lift the plane and might go through it
In my opinion, Omni-man Vs Bardock and Homelander Vs Brightburn are much better match-ups for both characters
Bardock smacks Omni man lmao
@@glidergoku He has the speed advantage though. Chuck made a video on it. Still a better fight than Omnilander
@@lolstalgic9602 bardock has a speed and ap and durability advantage
@@glidergoku Durability yes, but Chuck made a video on Gohan Vs Invincible, and while Gohan still stomped, the speed calcs for Mark had him faster.
Given Bardock is leagues below Gohan, Nolan would still scale to Mark and thus have the speed advantage
@@lolstalgic9602 danco steals and appealing to a TH-cam to prove your point is fallacious asf
Tobey maguire spiderman vs homelander
I see spidey beating him. He got jumped by the Phoenix 5, technically 4: colossus, namor, cyclops, and I forgot the last member, and Emma frost died. Nevertheless, they broke every bone in his body before he threw a beast haymaker at colossus' chin damn there knocking him out.
Of course this is avengers vs xmen spiderman, not tobey. But I still think tobey I'd comparable
@@boxhead411 Homelander will make Spidey his puppy
@@boxhead411how on earth is tobey comparable to comics Spider-Man? The comics version has vastly better feats in pretty much every area.
This has to be satire.
Omni-Man is a planetary powerhouse with hundreds of years of combat experience, an insanely high pain tolerance and - patience, a concept Homelander can't seem to grasp..
Homelander is a child in the body of a grown superhuman body.
Why can’t you say Omni man correctly?
3:19 his limitation is not strength, the reason why he couldn't lift the plane is because all his force would just rip through the metal because he doesn't have enough surface to spread the force accordingly.
Me trying to figure out who “omna-man” is. 🤣
I read that plane thing very differently, I always thought it was more because the boys has more realistic physics than most superhero stuff and that therefore if he tried to carry the plane it would just break apart anyways.
Plagiarism isnt cool Danco. Either quote sources or write your own stuff.
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Is it plagiarized or plagiarised?
Alright so NO one is talking about how he steals from many of your favorite creators?
Ikr
I think a closer fight would be Invincible vs. Homelander
I think invincible still wins but we all knew Homelander vs Omni Man wouldn’t even be close
Agreed
I asked that above. Invincible also got horribly beaten by his father. I agree that he would still win.
Actually in the comics, mark surpasses his dad
Invincible from the first episode beats HL lol
Comic or show? Show wise homelander might win. Comic wise homelander losing hard. Harder than omniman vs homelander
The distance in power levels from Homelander to Omni-man is massive. Leagues and leagues. But it's smaller than the distance from Omni-Man to Superman.
Superman is boring character
@@dragonman1871agreed
Homelander didn't refuse to carry the plane because he wasn't physically strong enough, it was because physics don't allow him to. The Boys is in many ways more grounded when it comes to physics than Invincible. Something as small as a human putting pressure against a small point like the nose of a plane would make him go right through it instead of slowing it down. He said so himself.
I’m hoping for a live action fight between Omniman vs Homelander. Hopefully it happens before both shows end one day.
I think the closest we will get to that is mk 1
Yall forgot the death battle?
Did you plagiarize this video too?
Even if homelander could somehow hurt omniman, lets not forget youth and exuberance is no match for old age and treachery, omniman is over 2000 years old, and not only that, he was raised in a society where strength.... is.... Everything, hell Viltrumites go to planets to neutralize threats for takeover, homelander would just be a box that needs checked once he deals with the bigger threats first
Bro steal people hard work
Homelander is the superhero we all wanted , a actual representation of what one of these people would be like in real life , only held back by their own hand and the ability to destroy anything if they wanted to
Omni man would eat homlander alive ☠️. bro is thousands of years old. he gets more powerful as he ages
Omni Man: you don’t seem to understand, you will never defeat me no matter what you do
And saitama enters the chat
“Now, take everything I just said about Omni Man and throw it out the window…”
I was just thinking about this comment.
Saitama-"Hold my groceries"
I dunno. I am less convinced here than Hancock and Superman.
For strength, remember how omniman was beaten up by the rest of the guardians, even if he did win in the end.
For speed comparison, remember homelander was able to outrun a bomb explosion, managing to save the baby next to it _and_ the fellow _holding_ it.
Lastly, that heat vision at full power to omniman's eyes?
I think this one is _close_. Honestly, the only reason I think Omniman has a leg up, here, is that he has centuries of fighting experience against super strong flying super people.
I think the homelander not being able to stop a plane in the air is more him not wanting to put in the effort
Nah, it is making fun of superheroes that do that in comics/movies/shows. It's not a lack of power. It's that physics would make it impossible for it to work the way depicted unless you have something physics breaking like magic.
@@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd yea that makes a lot of sense tbh
@@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd Superman can pass his durability on to what he's touching like a force field around his body. It's how he does all the 'superman' esque things
@@FrostDK98 That seems like something someone tried to tack on in retrospect in one of the many iterations of superman that was not part of his original character which I don't think should count for an argument like this.
@@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd Friend superman has had literally every single power at some point that has ever existed in comics. He is THE most broken hero of all time. Over the decades theyve thrown shit at the wall and seen what sticks. That ability is one of the ones that stuck so its a power every version has
Superman bodies both
You should compare both of their comic book versions, not Homelander from the goofy tv show.
But Omni-Man would still win because of his experience.
This man's stole content from death battle.
I can't believe it.