Mike makes a great trainer, he is not on automatic telling his clients what to do without thinking. He is actually evaluating the clients movements and weakness then altering the exercises to maximize the clients potential. Much respect for you Mike.
Mike has devoted everything to bodybuilding. People can criticize, but it's nice watching someone who understands every adjustment, every motion. Bravo 👏
Mike has also been lying and deceiving fans for over 30 years! Youngsters buy his products thinking 'Yaay, Mike is a natural athlete' that's the lowest you can go! So please, spare us the 'it's all hard work'
@@ezekieljarek7705 I have never bought any of his products, however can we agree the techniques and tweaks are spot on. I can careless if he is or isn't on roids I can just control my body and what I put in it.
@@ezekieljarek7705 nah mate he promotes working hard and longevity, if people think they need to buy products to look like Mike they're deluded and should give up lifting
@@ezekieljarek7705everybody that has been working out for at least 1-2 years knows he’s not natural even if he says he is. Everybody just ignores it at this point but he definitely knows what he’s talking about and his workout tips are exceptional
This video is almost completely useless as a tool even because of the poor camera angles. They are focused on their upper half for almost the whole lift!
He’s got one of the best physiques in the world, and clearly THE best for anyone 50 and up. However, he ruins it for himself by lying about natty status. Mike, no one cares that you’ve used roids, but people care if you lie.
That Gym is gorgeous! I'm always inspired and somewhat awed by these vids. The level and specificity of your attention and instruction is so very helpful in analyzing myself and what I'm doing. I'm 51 and ever evolving in every way. I wish I had TH-cam 30 yrs ago. The wealth of varied information from which to distill is so very useful-for continued edification and motivation. Thank you!
Excellent video!! I was paralyzed in 2001 at the age of 19. My quads were damaged the most... So I've been extremely hamstring dominant. For me, learning how to activate and train my weak/damaged muscles is crucial.
Holy shit! Just done some squats using this technique and the difference is insane! Felt a lot more comfortable and like old mate said it’s a lot easier on the knees 👍🏼 thanks for the videos mike, much love from Australia!
So many haters! Look at his physique! Head to toe the man is a beast! Pure strength! Full of knowledge. Age 50! Looked sensational for the last 30yrs! Where's his injuries? His joint problems? His tendonitis? 30yrs of steroid abuse gets this? Loool full props to Mike! A pure beast! Pure motivation!!
The perfect squat is when you descend slow pause at parallel when you ascend don't lock out at the top and rest and keep your head up don't look straight ahead as he does . Do two or three reps without resting at the top you won't believe the pump and how your thighs will grow
Love the video mike. I remember doing your powerbodybuilding routine with great results strength and body composition wise about 8 years ago. Looking to dial back the weights to retrain the technique for my squat now since I've hit a long term plateau. Thanks for the ongoing inspiration.
11:16 Mike O'Hearn ok, i agree in a part, you get better feeling and flexing from this type of squat but... it's the easiest way to get lumbar hernia due to the pressure put on the lumbar section. I did the squats like shown on the film, until i got injury of my lumbar.
You can see every muscle that exists in mike. He trains with a lot of thought going into every muscle he can work to get that overall strength maxed out. Gotta love that. He’s so damn strong
I never saw humble personality like you mike, you are such a famous person with a amazing physique still u are so down to earth and nice talking guy, even once you replied on one of my comment on insta too, like you care your fans and followers. Respect 🖖
Lovely Jubbly I was thinking that myself!!! Why so cringe!! Everything about that intro was so 90s!!! Mike is in great shape, and seems like a decent guy, so why the bullshit intro 😂😂😂 He needs to cut that shit 😂
I use coffee to it gives me better focus. I also have gone to no shoes in the squats ..it give me better stability. I'm no a big guy but i squat 405 for 8 reps. I kinda agree with what he sais about the biggest guy in the gym isn't always the strongest. I'm also 55 years old and have been.lifting since i was twelve. My bench is 295 for 8 reps.deadlift 405 for 8 reps. 3 days a week.
That's why I walked away from low bar squates was because how it seemed more back but I get it ass and hams. Great insight thank you your so informative.
What an epic intro ! Very frunna and beautiful ! Thanks for the positiv and strong mentality you share to us Mike, realy love that ! Greetings from Switzerland
Fucking hell Mike, I've been watching you for 20 years, and you never look less than mind-blowing. I am a cynic, a troll and a hater usually, but Christ--props to you. Incredible.
I did these yesterday and I had to miss the gym today I can barley walk. I did 315 this technique and man my legs never been this sore in a long time I can barley sit on toilet or walk lmao I NEVER MISS A DAY OF THE GYM lol 😆 good work 💪🏽
Love using the cue of sitting back on your hips to get the proper bar path for my clients. So often people love to lead a squat with their knees and they have that tendency to come up on their toes of the bar path creeps too far forward.
@@Daurentius322 None of your athletic heroes are natural. IFBB is juiced all across the board. NFL guys are juiced. NBA guys are juiced. Even soccer players get on gear.
Kal-EL Wayne everyone knows this , so why does he lie? Why does the rock lie ? Nobody is upset that he takes steroids they are turned off by the dishonesty. Get it ?
Loads of padding but the ultimate message and lessons regarding the small variations to hit where you need are spot on. def worth a watch for many gym idiots like me!!
I have barbell squatted a total of 6 times in my life starting 3 weeks ago. This is the way my trainer said to do it. Glad he is showing me correct! It feels much better with my ass back before I start the squat.
You have to be a straight up hater if you're throwing shade at this man. He's a beast, just because you can not do something does not mean it's unachievable. I would have liked if you were to show their feet at least once
Don't be delusional 🤣 Mike has been deceiving the industry for 30 years! Younger lifters look up to him because they think he's a natural lifter, guess what? Sheep remain sheep
This video is perfect for guys with natural strong legs as well, such as myself, I just recently got into watching more of what Mike o Hearn has been doing through out his videos, and this is the guy I want to train with and learn from. at 6'1 310 Lbs Solid mass, im 31 years old of age. im not shredded but im sure if I hung out more with this dude, id be an elite athlete. Can't wait till I hit the gym to have perfect form in order to gain the best results. Thanks Mike O Hearn
Mike O'Hearn. i am your no 1 fan. however, you got to come clean about using steroids. you use it. in this video its clear, your vascualarity gives it away why don't u just admit it and people will love u more and appreciate the knowledge that you usher for free....
If you look at all the body builders his age that have used steroids in the past, they do not look like Mike. Most are tiny, broken-down versions of their former selves. If they do still have size, which probably means they sill are using, they look puffy and nowhere near as lean looking as Mike. It’s not like he looked like this over night....he’s been pretty consistent since his 20s. Steroid users might get anywhere from 15-20 years, at most, of looking good, but they look terrible afterwards.
Why the fuck do you people care about that shit so much. Every top athlete/bodybuilder/whatever uses performance enhancement shit. It's a fact. Get past that shit.
This was actually a nice educational piece about the difference between low/high bar squat. I haven't seen many people mention the difference in queues.. I've always heard sit back more but never immediately from the start. I'll definitely do both since I love hitting my hamstrings with deadlifts but still love deep squats. It didn't occur to me to do both high bar for deep squats/quads and low bar for posterior chain work.
@@biblebill6206 Yes, their advice is THE most generic and shallow sh*t ever, like seriously, to listen to them is to be a complete f*cking moron, they can claim what ever they want but even if you were to take steroids and never lift ANY weights, you'd still outgrow any individual that lifts weights every single day at 85% of their max, so it literally boggles my mind how people cannot even start to COMPREHEND how egregious it is to say that advice from steroid users is valuable when first and foremost, their biceps would grow if they were training their legs or vice versa, so actually it is not valuable, it is WORTHLESS because it isn't and cannot and never will be applicable for those people who do not use them.
@BalticFin Of course hes nit naddy but guy still knows his stuff. I dont care if he juices or not. Fact is the guy for 30 has kept his body as good or better than anyone in the industry. He obviously knows what hes doing. Unless you know him personally and hes a prick my guess is people assume the worst about him and hes a good dude. but I dont know for sure.
@BalticFin Everyones got to eat. What do you do for a living? Are you sure your profession is as noble as you think it is? Get over your insecurities and stop being a hater.
Mike is that guy that wakes you up to tell you he's going to bed.
I feel like Mike is that person who tries to talk to you in the morning when you are half asleep
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Like a true Chad would.
Cool dude asfk
Mike makes a great trainer, he is not on automatic telling his clients what to do without thinking. He is actually evaluating the clients movements and weakness then altering the exercises to maximize the clients potential. Much respect for you Mike.
Agreed. Imagine how much the haters could learn from Mike.
Who asked 😂
@@dannymenz_1 Not you chicken legs.
@@everready2903we can’t not get what the haters mean tho he’s acts like a baby and won’t admit using peds wich there is no reason to not
3 years late, but how mike isolates his glutes as a lever is tremendous & demonstrated how muscles can hold our weight with confidence
Mike has devoted everything to bodybuilding. People can criticize, but it's nice watching someone who understands every adjustment, every motion. Bravo 👏
Mike has also been lying and deceiving fans for over 30 years!
Youngsters buy his products thinking 'Yaay, Mike is a natural athlete' that's the lowest you can go! So please, spare us the 'it's all hard work'
Nobody with a brain believes he’s natural
@@ezekieljarek7705 I have never bought any of his products, however can we agree the techniques and tweaks are spot on. I can careless if he is or isn't on roids I can just control my body and what I put in it.
@@ezekieljarek7705 nah mate he promotes working hard and longevity, if people think they need to buy products to look like Mike they're deluded and should give up lifting
@@ezekieljarek7705everybody that has been working out for at least 1-2 years knows he’s not natural even if he says he is. Everybody just ignores it at this point but he definitely knows what he’s talking about and his workout tips are exceptional
Dudes so natural he turned his skin into good quality leather.
Lmao
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Hahahahhahahahahahah
Growth hormone
Mike has the funniest comments on his vids, just having the time of my life reading thru all, thanks mike! keep up the good vids
hey camera man. when he says to look at his shoes, you point the cam at his shoes.
Yeah i wanted say the same
Right! I wanted to see his Walmart shoes! WTF! 😂
Bruh!!
This video is almost completely useless as a tool even because of the poor camera angles. They are focused on their upper half for almost the whole lift!
lmao im shocked theres any discrepancy in that. how do you fuck that up and its your only job. smh lmao
He’s got one of the best physiques in the world, and clearly THE best for anyone 50 and up. However, he ruins it for himself by lying about natty status.
Mike, no one cares that you’ve used roids, but people care if you lie.
He's natty
@@VodkaSoda because his shoes are made from natural materials.
Narcissus your a noob if you think he is natty 😂
Dexter Jackson doesn't like your comment
@@VodkaSoda sure is...his body natural produces a blend of test/tren/masteron so its no wonder hes a grainy and near 7% with massive size
Nicholas Cage really does immerse himself into every character he plays. He even has Jimmy Kimmel in a supporting role
LOL
Natural yea..How many mg of natural did you take?
po op lol
all of them
Mg? LoL he takes grams
Yes.
more :-)
Steroids or not doesn't matter, Mike has one of the best physique known to man.
Soooo much GOLD in this video... knowledge nuggets....examples of straight champions in the game!!! Thank you for sharing this!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
How did you get so natural?
Hi training many years
@@robertfisahn228 How much is that in mL?
Sxy Sdmzr 25
5 grams of creatine
@@hi1953 Hi Hi
Wow much respect Mike. I think that is the best explanation for why some guys are bigger and more cut but weaker than smaller guys. Connective tissue.
Mike has invented the facelift while squatting.
That Gym is gorgeous! I'm always inspired and somewhat awed by these vids. The level and specificity of your attention and instruction is so very helpful in analyzing myself and what I'm doing. I'm 51 and ever evolving in every way. I wish I had TH-cam 30 yrs ago. The wealth of varied information from which to distill is so very useful-for continued edification and motivation. Thank you!
At his age and still lifting the weight he does natural or not he deserves everyone’s respect
Why is this intro not on anymore. So badass
0:36 him on the horse KILLED ME LMAO
rofl
Lol exactly this dude is totally insane complete social-path
Heavy leg day for the horse
Mike O'Tren looking ripped as usual
And natty
@@freshstartfitness8875 Bro
Greatest natty braahh in this Earth
Lord Farquaad been bulking heavy
Lol
accurate AF
he hooofed and pooofed and he....injected some trenbolone
🤣😂
That bit on the jet ski 😂😂
Excellent video!!
I was paralyzed in 2001 at the age of 19. My quads were damaged the most... So I've been extremely hamstring dominant. For me, learning how to activate and train my weak/damaged muscles is crucial.
Holy shit! Just done some squats using this technique and the difference is insane! Felt a lot more comfortable and like old mate said it’s a lot easier on the knees 👍🏼 thanks for the videos mike, much love from Australia!
The longest intro in TH-cam history
Pretty cool intro tho
So many haters! Look at his physique! Head to toe the man is a beast! Pure strength! Full of knowledge. Age 50! Looked sensational for the last 30yrs! Where's his injuries? His joint problems? His tendonitis? 30yrs of steroid abuse gets this? Loool full props to Mike! A pure beast! Pure motivation!!
Editor - Hey Mike how alpha would you like your intro to be?" Mike - "Yes"
the first minute of this video is the funniest thing on youtube.
Omg the front double while balancing on a jet ski. Effin hilarious
That's crazy, I am a high bar squatter myself and yes the knee pain is a very real.
The perfect squat is when you descend slow pause at parallel when you ascend don't lock out at the top and rest and keep your head up don't look straight ahead as he does . Do two or three reps without resting at the top you won't believe the pump and how your thighs will grow
Nicholas Cage on the gear with a tan lol
lol
The comment I was looking for
"Turn to the side... where's the hamstring?" Hahaha the look on that dudes face when Mike said that was priceless
There were no faces in that shot. You must have been in the room if you saw his face. Dumbass
Fair play to Mike though, no point in not being straight up
Love the video mike. I remember doing your powerbodybuilding routine with great results strength and body composition wise about 8 years ago. Looking to dial back the weights to retrain the technique for my squat now since I've hit a long term plateau. Thanks for the ongoing inspiration.
11:16 Mike O'Hearn ok, i agree in a part, you get better feeling and flexing from this type of squat but... it's the easiest way to get lumbar hernia due to the pressure put on the lumbar section. I did the squats like shown on the film, until i got injury of my lumbar.
Mike is the type of guy that practiced asking himself out to prom
Knees and toes slightly pointed out and when you come up push your heels into the ground, that's how I target hams and glutes with the squat.
I lost it with him riding the horse in the intro 😭😭😭😭
SAVAGE! Killin it bro! 💪
You can see every muscle that exists in mike. He trains with a lot of thought going into every muscle he can work to get that overall strength maxed out. Gotta love that. He’s so damn strong
I never saw humble personality like you mike, you are such a famous person with a amazing physique still u are so down to earth and nice talking guy, even once you replied on one of my comment on insta too, like you care your fans and followers. Respect 🖖
Natural central
Going to try it. Looks good
13:50 when someone takes the spotlight for just a second lmao
Lol
Just tried this today. I’ve been doing it wrong for years. No more knee pain and felt great. Thanks for the education. ✋✋
"im natural"
The "Natural" version of Mike ohearn is Nicholas Cage
NoRace 😂nice
NoRace Lol 😂
The only natural part of Mike are the soles of his shoes.
So much value from this !🔥
Appreciate the jewel of wisdom 💪🏿
Only person who loves Mike is himself Haha. Cut that intro, this ain't the 90's. So much cheese
Lovely Jubbly
I was thinking that myself!!! Why so cringe!! Everything about that intro was so 90s!!!
Mike is in great shape, and seems like a decent guy, so why the bullshit intro 😂😂😂
He needs to cut that shit 😂
This intro is 55 seconds long! 55 seconds of pure narcissism
Actually I love it. It's hilarious. Without it this would be boring.
so much fucking cheese and doucheness in one minute
Lovely Jubbly it at least he likes himself unlike u
I admire his humbleness...
I can barely get past that terrible intro. Too long.
Too full of yourself.
Josh Rhynes - Don’t watch then🤔
You should learn to fast forward then cause there's actually valuable lessons in these videos.
If you was in his shoes, you would have the same intro
that was funny to read
Bro don't Forget the Outro! Its Soooo saturated with his EGO
Wow these comments are fucked up. People just love to hate. Jealousy never gets anyone anywhere, stay on your grind Mike.💪🏻
Toxic people, and mad as hell. It's funny really
2:24 interesting two guys had the same shape abs... both eating duck eggs and training 8 days a week
8 days a week. Haha. 25 hours a day and oh 32 days a month.
very nuanced but very significant adjustments recommended by Mike - legit expertise
My perfect squat happens everyday after my first cup of coffee. Then I eat breakfast and hit the gym.
I use coffee to it gives me better focus. I also have gone to no shoes in the squats ..it give me better stability. I'm no a big guy but i squat 405 for 8 reps. I kinda agree with what he sais about the biggest guy in the gym isn't always the strongest. I'm also 55 years old and have been.lifting since i was twelve. My bench is 295 for 8 reps.deadlift 405 for 8 reps. 3 days a week.
@@tombean2347 He means the perfect squat for him happens after his first cup of coffee in the morning when he squats down to take a shit
That's why I walked away from low bar squates was because how it seemed more back but I get it ass and hams. Great insight thank you your so informative.
THE most embarrassing intro to a video you will ever see.
Who the he'll rides a horse while topless looked like an advert for grinder tv or something
shearer567 10000%%
@@mattsteel8583 ARNOLD
Lol, I found it absolutly epic ! Mike is awesome and beautiful, nobody can't say the opposite, right ? Greetings
What an epic intro ! Very frunna and beautiful ! Thanks for the positiv and strong mentality you share to us Mike, realy love that ! Greetings from Switzerland
Mike O’Hearn, one of the best in the business... really nice guy!
Glad I came across this. Next leg day I shall try this technique
7:50 The commercial ends, and we get to squatting.
Doing the ham and glute squat is a damn good stretch just using your own body weight. Try it!
What song is that Intro tho, the guitar rocks damn
Fucking hell Mike, I've been watching you for 20 years, and you never look less than mind-blowing. I am a cynic, a troll and a hater usually, but Christ--props to you. Incredible.
Message of the Video: He loves himself.
@@HitstikFit but I like that he is natural
Perfect technique
Intro: sad and unnecessarily long intro
Outro: *but wait there's more*
Wow never saw such a great explanation ,,,,thaks
I did these yesterday and I had to miss the gym today I can barley walk. I did 315 this technique and man my legs never been this sore in a long time I can barley sit on toilet or walk lmao I NEVER MISS A DAY OF THE GYM lol 😆 good work 💪🏽
Todd Abrams looks absolutely sick!
Was this re uploaded? I’ve watched this same video over a month ago...
His hair was different so doesn't count.
Love using the cue of sitting back on your hips to get the proper bar path for my clients. So often people love to lead a squat with their knees and they have that tendency to come up on their toes of the bar path creeps too far forward.
Just tried this with body weight squats. This is is super legit. Appreciate the knowledge.
A lot of haters in the coments lol, probably insecure dudes with no self confidence...
Thanks for sharing Mike !
Uhu as much insecurity as those fake naturals out there claiming to be "natural" for the sake of compensating for their lack of natural masculinity.
@@Daurentius322 None of your athletic heroes are natural. IFBB is juiced all across the board.
NFL guys are juiced.
NBA guys are juiced.
Even soccer players get on gear.
Kal-EL Wayne everyone knows this , so why does he lie? Why does the rock lie ? Nobody is upset that he takes steroids they are turned off by the dishonesty. Get it ?
I wish I can meet you someday in person 🔥🔥🔥🔥
my fav natural bodybuilder of all time :D
Loads of padding but the ultimate message and lessons regarding the small variations to hit where you need are spot on. def worth a watch for many gym idiots like me!!
My man out here looking like a warrior!
I have barbell squatted a total of 6 times in my life starting 3 weeks ago. This is the way my trainer said to do it. Glad he is showing me correct! It feels much better with my ass back before I start the squat.
Drinking game: Take a shot every time someone looks at themselves in the mirror.
I will be wasted
everything you see is your mirror
Will be mimicking this in the gym tonight. I'm very quad dominant and seriously need to strengthen my Hami's and Glutes.
You have to be a straight up hater if you're throwing shade at this man. He's a beast, just because you can not do something does not mean it's unachievable. I would have liked if you were to show their feet at least once
Don't be delusional 🤣
Mike has been deceiving the industry for 30 years! Younger lifters look up to him because they think he's a natural lifter, guess what? Sheep remain sheep
This video is perfect for guys with natural strong legs as well, such as myself, I just recently got into watching more of what Mike o Hearn has been doing through out his videos, and this is the guy I want to train with and learn from. at 6'1 310 Lbs Solid mass, im 31 years old of age. im not shredded but im sure if I hung out more with this dude, id be an elite athlete. Can't wait till I hit the gym to have perfect form in order to gain the best results. Thanks Mike O Hearn
what to hate? doesnt matter if hes Natty or nahh.. Mike O'hearn has so much knowledge .. hes dropping bomb!!!
Indra Chandra BECAUSE HES LYING hello ?
@@Earthad23 about what?
Indra Chandra about not taking steroids ... hello?
does it really matter? his knowledge and experiences doesnt come from steroid.
Titan!!!!!! Thank you 🙏 for all of the videos and knowledge you give Mike!
I seriously laughed so hard at that intro.
dude is literally built perfect
Mike O'Hearn. i am your no 1 fan.
however, you got to come clean about using steroids. you use it. in this video its clear, your vascualarity gives it away
why don't u just admit it and people will love u more and appreciate the knowledge that you usher for free....
he is all natural , don't be jealous
hes a pussy, insecure.
If you look at all the body builders his age that have used steroids in the past, they do not look like Mike. Most are tiny, broken-down versions of their former selves. If they do still have size, which probably means they sill are using, they look puffy and nowhere near as lean looking as Mike. It’s not like he looked like this over night....he’s been pretty consistent since his 20s. Steroid users might get anywhere from 15-20 years, at most, of looking good, but they look terrible afterwards.
J Tran are kidding me? That is the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard.
Why the fuck do you people care about that shit so much. Every top athlete/bodybuilder/whatever uses performance enhancement shit. It's a fact. Get past that shit.
wow!! i'm learning so much ! 5 years of bodybuilding and still learning. Thank you for those tips ! i appreciate it!! keep it up!
Everybody trash talking Mike O' Hearn but, he's the one everyone wants to train with ! 😁
Superb video!Wonderful heavy hardwok great The TITAN .Knowledge energetic speech mike sir.👏👏
how many mg of anastrozol do you take to keep that lean all year long?
02:00 holyyyyy shiiitt. this dude can tan himself and step on stage tomorrow
more than 50 and that ripped? how much testo are they taking?
It’s like mikes leg is giving birth to another leg
This was actually a nice educational piece about the difference between low/high bar squat. I haven't seen many people mention the difference in queues.. I've always heard sit back more but never immediately from the start. I'll definitely do both since I love hitting my hamstrings with deadlifts but still love deep squats. It didn't occur to me to do both high bar for deep squats/quads and low bar for posterior chain work.
Idgaf if he is using 'roids or not, the advice he gives is still valuable.
How can that be if he's , juicing makes no sense
@@biblebill6206 Yes, their advice is THE most generic and shallow sh*t ever, like seriously, to listen to them is to be a complete f*cking moron, they can claim what ever they want but even if you were to take steroids and never lift ANY weights, you'd still outgrow any individual that lifts weights every single day at 85% of their max, so it literally boggles my mind how people cannot even start to COMPREHEND how egregious it is to say that advice from steroid users is valuable when first and foremost, their biceps would grow if they were training their legs or vice versa, so actually it is not valuable, it is WORTHLESS because it isn't and cannot and never will be applicable for those people who do not use them.
Another awesome video. Just in time for lower body tomorrow.
Guy is brilliant...its too bad people hate on him. He's a good dude.
Smartest guy in the Fitness Industry and hardest worker.
@BalticFin Of course hes nit naddy but guy still knows his stuff. I dont care if he juices or not. Fact is the guy for 30 has kept his body as good or better than anyone in the industry. He obviously knows what hes doing. Unless you know him personally and hes a prick my guess is people assume the worst about him and hes a good dude. but I dont know for sure.
Because has not completely honest
@BalticFin Everyones got to eat. What do you do for a living? Are you sure your profession is as noble as you think it is? Get over your insecurities and stop being a hater.
@BalticFin ;)
Yes Mike would love to see the full video, Thanks👍
Jimmy Kimmel got pretty big at 6:25
Dude!Mike is 1 in a billion when it comes to genetics. And I’d be willing to say that no one trains header then that dude. With the consistency.