Roland Boutique JD-08 sequencer: a closer look
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- Here's a closer look at the #rolandboutique #jd08 's #sequencer, which might be more capable than you expected. Thanks to @Volcaniced for lending me his Arturia Microfreak! Table of contents:
00:00 hello
00:17 overview
00:36 choosing a sequence slot
00:48 choosing patches
01:02 use the step keys as a keyboard for playing
01:35 saving a sequence
01:58 recording with the step sequencer
04:13 real time recording
04:30 changing the sequence length
05:13 recording automation
05:54 copy & paste
06:37 switching sequences while playing
07:09 swing, reverse, random notes
07:50 controlling external gear
08:03 other things to consider
08:24 demonstration on JD-08 and Arturia Microfreak
10:53 bye-bye
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This was an excellent video. Thank you for putting this together. I found one of these for a great price and I think it's the perfect synth for me. It's small and clunky but it sounds like everything I loved about PlayStation 1 era soundtracks. I hear Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid sounds ALL over this thing.
Thanks for watching! This is a cool synth. (I sold it because my room for synths is limited and my Yamaha EX5 covers all my ROMpler/PCM synth needs - but I'm tempted to buy it again ;-)
Enjoyed the video! Agree with others, the multi-function button combinations are not an intuitive process for a sequencer, but at least Roland made the effort. I had a JD 990; it remains the only synth I regret selling. JD-08 has intrigued me since launch. Thank you for providing content on this unit.
Thanks for your feedback! I suppose this looks more complicated than it really is in this video because I showed most of the things you _can_ do. In reality, most of the time you'll just hit "start+note" and record something.
Great video! I'm thinking to get a JD-08 for a while. Would love to see more content like this.
Thanks for your feedback! I'll make a "creating some sounds, no talking" video on this in the future.
The operation seems like that of digital watches. You need to press the correct combo and order of buttons just to do a basic function. But your patience resulted in a rewarding jam, enjoyed it! :)
Thanks for watching! I think this impression resulted mostly from the fact I'm trying to show all the possibilities here. In reality, most users propably will just hit start+note and adjust the tempo - both of that is pretty much hands-on.
Very nice!!! 😀
Thanks!
Thanks again!!
You're welcome. :)
I haven't really felt compelled to get one of roland sub-$500 synth/sequencers, but this one looks kinda fun...something about all the slider/fader controls instead of endless knobs makes it seem more accessible for some reason. Nice video!
Thanks for watching! Yes, you get a lot of MIDI controls here. I wanted to have a portable synth that is somewhat like the Yamaha EX5, and this is the closest thing.
Thanks a lot.
Most welcome!
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
This synth seems really nice for the price. I ended up getting a really good deal on a Korg Wavestate, so picked that up. Really like the Korg, and do not regret the purchase, but hoping someone I know gets the JD-08, so I can try it.
It's a fun synth that has more to it then you can see at first. Each of the 4 "parts" has it's own filter, envelopes, and so on. Theres a lot of room for sound design here.
I do really like the sound of both. I have not written off the JD-08, but right now feels a bit redundant in my set up. I have been working on my set up quite a bit, and getting really happy with it. Trying to avoid GAS.
Quite a capable sequencer for such a small and compact synth!
It's not bad. More than some other standalone sequencers in certain regards. ;-)
Thank you for this! Haven't touched the sequencer on my JX-08 as the manual is quite light on details, so I've just been triggering it from my DAW. At this point I honestly prefer the looper on my Refaces! Though I'm hoping that opinion will be changed by the end of this video.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks! The sequencer can do more things than expected. ;-)
@@mr_floydst Indeed! I know they certainly have their flaws (the JD-08's controls being small even by Boutique standards, the JX-08 not sounding quite like a JX-8P, no decent way to manage patches, or viewing parameters for existing patches etc.), but they are super powerful considering their size. The voice count, bi-timbrality, extensive onboard effects and a powerful (albeit a bit of work to navigate) sequencer, they're awesome little devices.
Thanks for the informative video! One other little function that I don't think was covered in the video was being able to alter the note length on the sequences (not sure if this is recorded like the velocity when input from an external keyboard), but it can be changed in the sequence settings (I think on a per note basis too). I imagine it's handy for recording chord progressions to play over.
This is such a great little synth and well presented sequencer workflow. Just one question: how did you connect the MIDI keyboard? Does the JD-08 have USB host mode?
Thanks for watching! I made a video to answer this question specifically: th-cam.com/video/iV4OSRG6Kio/w-d-xo.html ;-)
hey Floyd!! great video & breakdown of the sequencers functionality. question, is there any way that I can have the sequencer hold a chord for multiple steps?? or would i have to change the envelope to hold the note for longer after the key stops being pressed, as a workaround?
Hi, thanks for watching. That's what the page/tie button is for, see page 31 in the manual static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/JX-08_reference_eng01_W.pdf
I bought used JD-08 some month ago and didn't have time to dig through manual. I finally know how to record sequence live so thanks for Your video :) I'm still trying to figure out how to setup that synth to play dawless. I already made setup in pedalboard MIDI controller (Morningstar MC6) and can switch patches on both parts. Right now I'm using Keystep to sequence bass on B part while playing pads or lead on part A. I was thinking about using JD-08 inetrnal sequencer for bass so I could freed sequencer for some other device (Volca Bass or Keys). So the question is, is there a way to change sequencer rate externally ?
It's possible according to the manuel, send a program change on the system midi channel: static.roland.com/manuals/jd-08_reference/eng/17812083.html
Hey Roland, listen, you should hire Floyd to make videos and manuals on how to use Roland gear. Amazing video btw.
Thank you very much! I guess that won't happen, though. ;-)
Thanks! Your content on this synth has been invaluable Floyd, please make a couple more sound design explorations on it if you could! I’m fascinated by this machine.
One needlessly drawn out question if I may, how do you handle (or how does the unit handle) the fader sharing aspect in the envelopes once you press the type button to tweak something or other in a performance? For example once you set a value on a fader in TVA (let’s say T1 in TVA at 50%) and want Pitch envelope T1 to be in 0%, does the sound abruptly jump or does the value gradually goes to the current fader position once you move it? Is there a setting in the menu for this?
Sorry if it’s poorly worded and convoluted, my english grammar is a bit poor.
I’ve seen all the videos I can but haven’t really seen someone moving the faders and switching ENV types while playing or sequencing.
Thanks in part to your videos I just purchased one and can’t wait to dig in! It’s gonna take a while while I import it to my country but I’m absorbing all the info I can
Hi, thanks for watching! The sound will "jump" in that case, the settings won't adjust relatively. There's no way to change this behaviour.
... and thank you very much for your support! Greatly appreciated. :-)
@@mr_floydst Great! thanks for the info and thank you for taking the time to go through the synth and the rest of the gear on your channel. Making walkthroughs of gear you purchase without any real bias or corporate interest, just curiosity is refreshing and different from some of the synth content on TH-cam witch tends to be snobby and look down on these boutiques or lots of other low cost digital gear ✌🏽
@@edgarcortes Thanks! That's too much praise - IF companies offer me to review their stuff, I sometimes do it. ;-) E.g. PCBway's sponsorship really made sense with the LMN-3 project. In my opinion, gear snobbery, while it certainly exists on TH-cam, is really at home on Reddit. ;-)
@@mr_floydst Oh of course if companies are gonna send you their gear it's quite clear you're gonna give a really objective and thorough review and the more the merrier! Hopefully it turns into even more success for your channel! I know I'll keep on watching
jajajaja and you're absolutely right about Reddit and in many cases TheGearPage, very strange communities filled with folks ready to roast and gatekeep anything less than the most expensive, vintage and analog gear you own or have the guts to ask about. And if somebody only has expensive things they're also getting trashed jajajaj
I was part of the guitar pedals reddit for a little bit and my god are people tribal about brands and dumb unfounded technical factoids. I ran away and never looked back.
The only place I feel it's cool asking about the JD08 is in some of these great walkthroughs where the dumb "THE FADERS ARE TOO SMALL, BOUTIQUES ARE HORRID AND TOYS FOR IDIOTS" type of comments are down to a minimum, so Reddit is definitely out of the question jajajaja
Thanks Floyd!
Very helpful but how do I tie notes together in sequencer mode?
From the online manual:
"Select the pattern to record (Selecting a Pattern).
Hold down the [COMMON] button and press the [EFFECTS] button to make the indicators light.
The unit enters sequencer mode (STEP SEQ). The current tempo is shown on the display.
Hold down the [1]-[16] buttons and press the [PAGE/TIE] button to select the step where you want to input a tie.
The note connected by the tie is input into the next step."
Is there a way to do slides on the sequencer? I know you can tie notes but not quite the same.
I can't test this at the moment. Please try recording your sequence "live".
If that doesn't work I'm afraid it's not possible.
I wonder if the JD-08 has any red, sticky glue hidden away to properly emulate the JD800's seppuku mode ..
;-)
😂!
Hey, i have a question my jd dont do the sequence transitions like you did. It change exactly when i press other pattern. and i dont remember changing anything in the sequence setting. Can you help me fixing this issue? i want it to wait until the sequence over to transition to other patten
I can't remember precisely but I think that was the standard behaviour. There are some sequencer settings you can change, as shown here static.roland.com/manuals/jd-08_reference/eng/17812070.html - perhaps one of those helps?
@@mr_floydst but in the video you said it wait until the last step? or im misunderstood the statment?
Is it possible to transpose a sequence during performance? What about two sequences simultaneously during a performance?
You can change the pitch of a patch live, by finetuning it or in semitones. There's also a "global transpose" setting in the main menu which will affectr the whole unit. I don't know if this useful in live playing, but with a bit of rehearsal, it could be possible. Personally, I'd just create a bunch of sequences in advance ;-)
The Boutique machines sound great, yet have drawbacks as well. One is polyphony and the other is size (too small for realtime parameter editing).
Got the vocoder and is nice, though I wish I had bought the SE-02 (mini)MiniMoog instead.
Thanks for watching! This is true for the older models. The two new ones (JX-08 and JD-08) have gone all in on polyphony, 32 for the JX and 128 on the JD.
Also, they have a set of macro sliders that are longer than the others. They stand in for the last UI element you used, allowing for "precise enough" adjustments.
But they're still small. ;-)
@@mr_floydst Thanks for pointing out polyphony on the later models.
And agree, like on a mixer a fader needs a certain amount of "travel" in order to work comfy.
Hello,
I’m new to these devices and I don’t know the jargon, to properly express myself, so please bear with me. The way I understand the JD-08’s sound building capabilities is, that the sounds [patches] you can choose to play are made up of, one to four tones. So , you can choose from the 108 patches within the JD-08 to create new patches, by stacking these patches [from 2 to 4, or just 1 patch], right? Ok, but say you choose two patches from the 108 patches available, and you choose one named SANDWICH and the other is named AUTUMN. Now let’s say that SANDWICH is made up of these 3 tones: bread, ham, cheese and AUTUMN is made up of these 4 tones: tree, leaves, wind, rain. Now my question is: Can you use a tone [s] from SANDWICH, let’s say: bread and mix it with two tones from AUTUMN, let’s say: rain and winds? Or in other words, are JUST the tones [individually] available for you to play around with, or is it that ONLY the patches are available for you to stack/mix/manipulate together? Please clarify. Thank you kindly
Hello Max, thanks for watching.
Your sandwich analogy is great, so let's roll with that.
So, in these terms, a PATCH would be a complete sandwich. As you correctly pointed out, a sandwich can be made from up to four ingredients.
The JD-08 has (if I remember correctly) 256 "ingredients" on offer, these are called waves. They're sampled sounds.
You can choose any 4 of these 256 ingredients to create your sandwich. ;-)
Once that is done, you can go and create another sandwich. In that terms, the JD-08 has storage space for 256 sandwiches :-)
You can then layer 2 patches (sandwiches) for extra phat sounds.
@@mr_floydst So, what we might refer to as the ingredients [in the sandwich] ARE indeed available, and they’re called: Waves. Ok, I didn’t know that [or I somehow missed that bit of info]. I was under the impression that only the “sandwiches” were available, for stacking… Ok then, that seems like a lot of possibilities, to me. Thank you for replying, I do appreciate it. Cheers!
~ at the 3 minute mark I was losing the will to live.
Hi! Thanks for your feedback, but that criticism is a bit unspecific. Didn't you like the video, the way the sequencer works, the way I used it or the notes I entered? ;-)
@@mr_floydst ~ losing the will to live is pretty specific, so many button pushes just to set it up, I have my JD-800, a keystep 37 and Cubase I just like to play it, same goes for my SH-01A, also the sounds you get with Roland Zenbeats on my phone are actually better than the JD.
Thanks for clarifying! I can see where you're coming from. I would not use this sequencer for creating songs. It's more of a nice addon to have for recording some chords and a bassline to improvise over.
Jesus Christ this was complicated. It’s not your fault it’s just complicated how they set up the sequencer
Thanks for watching! It's not the most intuitive sequencer, but then again, it's not _bad_. It's multitimbral and polyphonic and it can do 64 steps...
I'd rather they just bring back the JD800. Anyone can make a sequencer with an Arduino or Max/MSP.
I think Roland announced they're all in on the Zenology / cloud stuff and we shouldn't expect anything else in the foreseeable future. (We'll also see how that goes).
Well yes, you and I can make a sequencer, but there are also people out there that can't, and the sequencer seems to be the bonus you get over choosing the VST version. (plus the actual MIDI controller)
@@mr_floydst the art form does evolve, doesn't it? Horse glue and ivory used to be state of the art tech.
@@stickyfox ;-)
This thing is such a deal. I have to force myself to not buy one.
It's fun and whatever you do it sounds like the early 90s.
Nice video but all that button pressing just to do basic tasks and that antiquated seven segment display are a total put off and deal breaker.
Thanks! You're right, but as I said to other viewers who shared your opinion - most of the times, you'll just hit start +note (and maybe turn the encoder to set the tempo). I remember Digitone which in my memory had a lot of combo presses too which weren't on screen even. ;-)
Bro you use screens? 🙄
The menu diving on this synth turned me off. I’m a plug and play kind of guy
Thanks for watching! That's understandable, but this video was not about the synth part of this box, which is pretty much as hands-on as gets. So talking about sequencers, which hardware do you like to use?
You miss a lot of steps in your tutorials, having a hard time following
Sorry it wasn't helpful. Can you please give an example? (Balancing these videos isn't easy - some people prefer a faster pace and some people like a more thoughtful, repetitive approach).
@@mr_floydst maybe it’s because I’m brand new to synths but I think a couple parts of the video didn’t align with the voiceover instructions which made it a bit confusing for me
Ok, yes, that's true. I'll try to keep this in mind in the future. Thanks for your feedback!