How Does Drag Race Pick A Winner?

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    We've had a crazy amount of drag queens enter the winner's circle of RuPaul's Drag Race, and there has not been any consistency in how they've been chosen. The fandom likes to think that track records matter, but from what we've seen, RuPaul and the producers take a lot of factors into consideration before picking who will take the crown.
    In this video, we're going to look at every Ru-led season of Drag Race to determine what led to each queen winning their respective seasons. From Bebe Zahara Benet to Jinkx Monsoon (the second time). From some of the most obvious winner picks like Bianca Del Rio and Bob the Drag Queen to some of the most controversial like Monet X Change and Lawrence Chaney.
    Let me know in the comments below who your favorite winner is!
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  • @pralinemocha
    @pralinemocha ปีที่แล้ว +200

    I forget where I heard/read it, but I was against her win until it was pointed out that Ginger stumbled in a season catered to her, whereas Violet never did, in a season where she should have flopped

    • @collinkilloran5721
      @collinkilloran5721 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh that’s such a good point

    • @PTCshortvids
      @PTCshortvids ปีที่แล้ว +10

      you don't need to be a comedy queen to be funny
      Violet is funny and she has got the fashion too

  • @andre.andrade91
    @andre.andrade91 ปีที่แล้ว +973

    I will NEVER get over the fact that Monique couldn't even lipsync for the crown; she was the narrator, improved A LOT in such short time, had an amazing storyline... But I kinda feel that she saw the writing on the wall when they brought Latrice back, her energy changed a lot after that episode, she still did good but felt defeated🤧🤧

    • @user-ml1kn9ml9e
      @user-ml1kn9ml9e ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I think they brought monique back for all stars too soon to the point I found her annoying when I liked her before. She barely had time to develop. It felt like the same person repeating the same catchphrases but just with more money for outfits. I would've had her wait at least a year longer. Maybe a couple. Same with Monet. She was far more polished in UK vs World. However if she wants to win I think she needs to work on not doing that cartwheel thing and characters performing skills for one's she didn't bring with her in order to compete with some of the most polished ones in those challenges.

    • @williamscott3634
      @williamscott3634 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      *Mo

    • @andre.andrade91
      @andre.andrade91 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@williamscott3634 By the time she was still Monique 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @indica666_
      @indica666_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She flopped

    • @alorockss
      @alorockss ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Choosing Monet over Monique was so stupid. In a way, AS7 proved to all of us the haters and non haters that Trinity was the true winner of AS4, and if it wasn't because the three previous winners were white too, Trinity would've been crowned alone.
      And Monet only thrives with the help of favoritism and riggery, much to the disappoinment of lots of us. But at the end, she got a spoonful of her own medicine.

  • @oscarsoto8428
    @oscarsoto8428 ปีที่แล้ว +1004

    My only gripe with Violet winning is, why have so many acting and comedy challenges, only to then give it to Violet? Why have Violet herself complaining about all the group challenges in the season due to them being acting, comedy, and girl-group challenges, only to have Violet win? All they needed to do was replace 1 performance challenge with a design or sewing or runway challenge, and then Violet's win would have made more sense. Unless the show is trying to say "fashion and style queens can win performance-heavy seasons", which, I guess is fine?

    • @nicojimenez9614
      @nicojimenez9614 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      i agree with you + we had 2 comedy queens as title predecessors and the last fashion queen was 4 whole seasons ago, it would've had an awkward reception had Ginger won; the season as a whole was very poorly structured and thought out

    • @Fuji_0
      @Fuji_0 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I haven’t watched this video so idk if it was mentioned, but I feel that the challenges were built for Ginger to excel and win, but IDK why the last decision was Violet winning the crown.

    • @khntou4178
      @khntou4178 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      the overall goal of season 7 is so confusing to me but I do feel like it was contructed for Pearl to win cause her sort of deadpan, subtle humor would have made her stand out more in those challenges and would have been a different take for Drag winners. They weren't able to crown Adore cause Bianca was just so good, but they were willing to go all hands in rigging for Pearl this season. Unfortunately for production, Pearl wasn't gonna let her guard down and reveal her past trauma for a a TV show so they could form a storyline so theyd dropped her for her noncompliance. That's what my take on it is at least, cause I don't think they exoected Katya to become as popular as she did.

    • @user-ml1kn9ml9e
      @user-ml1kn9ml9e ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I agree. I would've probably moved shakesquueere to another season having seen its outcome. I also wouldn't of done glamazon as a rusical tho. However tor the acting challenges if I was the producer making it at the time I'd probably move ru Hollywood to another season. That was a good challenge but overkill. Same with divine but with that 1 acting removed for a fashion one I think the divine one could be appreciated more.

    • @user-vc9cl7zz8x
      @user-vc9cl7zz8x ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The challenges for the tv ratings! The show changed to treat the the whole season as separate. Then wow and ru crown the winer that has the most fans/or fan favorite out of who left from the pre recorded season.

  • @DiegoSinclair1820
    @DiegoSinclair1820 ปีที่แล้ว +426

    Jessica being the 2 best track record of the season is WILD! 👑

    • @Octobris
      @Octobris ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I see what you did there

    • @dylannolastname730
      @dylannolastname730 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      and for someone who was 6th place.. stan jessica

    • @iandean1112
      @iandean1112 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@dylannolastname730 Always stan Jessica Wild. The Golden Child.

    • @mikhailpoplavskiy311
      @mikhailpoplavskiy311 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LITERALLY.

    • @ritasmith5898
      @ritasmith5898 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She's that girl. I knew she was.

  • @SocarellaDeToussaint
    @SocarellaDeToussaint ปีที่แล้ว +396

    I heard that Ru instantly picked Yuhua to win Season 10 when she came in with a Uhaul truck blasting Material Girl by Saucy Santana.

    • @yorotheporo934
      @yorotheporo934 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I got no idea it is true what your saying but.... i would also pick that as a winner

    • @ellenv
      @ellenv ปีที่แล้ว +33

      *Uhaul Homosexual

    • @TheCalebMoline
      @TheCalebMoline ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ellenv who haul homosexual? You?

    • @punkbaby9554
      @punkbaby9554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is true. The house of dry was so proud

  • @teagan4143
    @teagan4143 ปีที่แล้ว +485

    It’d be really interesting to see a video exploring what each of the winners did with their reign. How it’s evolved over time, who really took the most advantage of it, etc. Esp now with so many winners being crowned each year I almost wonder if winning is less of a big deal now? Just a thought ! Love your videos so much!

    • @slenderhulk4044
      @slenderhulk4044 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Too true. Ngl, I liked her. Others did too
      She had charisma

    • @Dasnie88
      @Dasnie88 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yea it's so bad..I've been forgetting about the "winners" for some seasons now...

    • @kennethbepps
      @kennethbepps ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The "losers" seem to flourish more than the actual winners. For instance, ANTM is a perfect example of the runner-ups doing more than the winner's.

    • @starsheen1
      @starsheen1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'd love that tbh. I don't really know what the winners do after they win, what is required of them, what is expected for them to do. I really have no idea.

    • @2a2777f2g
      @2a2777f2g ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be a fantastic video to watch!

  • @dylanlanterman
    @dylanlanterman ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I love the phrase “Alaska’s boyfriend at the time” being used to describe S4 Winner. 😂Olympic-level skating around not saying her name.😂 10:06

  • @Deshwi1
    @Deshwi1 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    Shea had the most wins but Sasha won the final lipsync. Jinkx had the most wins andMonét won the
    lipsync for the crown.
    It really just comes down to who they want to win.
    As RuPaul says, the final decision is hers to make

    • @ecenbt
      @ecenbt ปีที่แล้ว +34

      My personal thought on this is that the regular season finale being in front of a live audience and jinkx and Monet lipsync being a final lipsync while sasha-shea one being an elimination round played a huge part in these results. If you have a live audience react so strongly to one of the lipsyncers, i.e. Sasha, you can't simply edit them out and eliminate them according to your agenda. But in the as7 lipsync, while i have no doubt Monet gave an amazing lipsync, in the end we don't know. We as the viewers were not shown the performance. So it is easier to edit things out and manipulate the end

    • @peaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @peaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@ecenbt in the end we don’t know? girl it was an obvious slaughter no amount of editing could hide how good monet was in the final lip sync

    • @grantmegan91
      @grantmegan91 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ecenbt they certainly edited eureka and aquarias lip sync to where they literally had them re do it after the crowd was chanting for eureka. If they want to go by what ru or production want each time then they need to stop having a lipsync for the crown where their chosen winner gets eaten alive on stage!

    • @tbbcch1039
      @tbbcch1039 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think Sasha being crowned wasn't as much about her winning the lipsync in and of itself as it was about her creating an iconic moment with it.
      After all, it wouldn't have been the first time somoene who does better in a lipsync loses bc of track record.
      But Sasha did more than just doing better.

    • @normalizenatalie
      @normalizenatalie ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@peaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i just feel like it's almost pointless to give people points/stars for how well they succeed in challenges and then have the finale be something that the challenge winner gets beat at like...........it's just odd to me

  • @badmanicpower
    @badmanicpower ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Trixie had the fourth best track record, Kennedy had the sixth (after Aja). Trixie deserved to win more than Kennedy but Shangela & DeLa deserved it more than any of them.

    • @davidkonevky7372
      @davidkonevky7372 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Trixie deserved the crown but if there were no weird ass twists and self elimination she 100% would have lost

  • @quinzel3237
    @quinzel3237 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    During the earlier seasons, you have to be the main character of an overarching storyline for you to win. But this time, you just have to be a fan favorite.

    • @miloslavmasar
      @miloslavmasar ปีที่แล้ว +32

      If it was like that, the UK winners would be Divina, Bimini and Ella

    • @Eternaltorment
      @Eternaltorment ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@miloslavmasar The uk picks the winners differently than the us.

    • @Fuji_0
      @Fuji_0 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think the Producers already knew they’d get a lot of hate from fans when fan fave didn’t win. See how fans up until now would still mention fan fave Queens who didn’t win like Manila, Shangela, Gigi Goode, etc.
      Idk just my thoughts

    • @user-ry1yf5sm8q
      @user-ry1yf5sm8q ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Miloslav Masár Ella was definitely not the main character of s3 I would say that was kitty. Also kitty had more of a storyline with the slow burn to a win

    • @miloslavmasar
      @miloslavmasar ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@user-ry1yf5sm8q they said the fan faves win nowadays however, I'm referring to the fact that Divina, Bimini and Ella were the fan faves of their seasons and were the pick to win for fans

  • @AnRuixuan
    @AnRuixuan ปีที่แล้ว +255

    Imo Raja won because of the finale, especially her "why should you win?" speech. I'm a huge Manila stan and was rooting for her up until the end but Raja really ate up the finale of S3.

    • @Mendejito
      @Mendejito ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Raja has the best speeches

    • @iandean1112
      @iandean1112 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Mendejito Roger is so eloquent

  • @Mendejito
    @Mendejito ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Just started the video and will defend Jaida’s win till the day I die lol

    • @dj_netwrk4901
      @dj_netwrk4901 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thisss

    • @LightestKing
      @LightestKing ปีที่แล้ว +46

      she was genuinely the only one I feel didn't receive heavy favouritism, the only instance I can think of is possibly her winning the makeover challenge over Crystal Methyd but I honestly think it should've been a double win. Crystal kinda and especially Gigi and Sherry were favoured all season long, Sherry was given 2 undeserved wins and Gigi was saved from the bottom or from negative critiques that have been given in past seasons (Ex. Shea Couleé was put in the bottom for her makeover being just the same outfit with switched colors, which Gigi also did but was quickly given a safe placement). So no matter which way you look at it Jaida was most consistently in the top without needing any help from producers. AND even when she did land in the bottom she ate up Heidi in that lip sync.

    • @Mendejito
      @Mendejito ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@LightestKing agree honestly. She never received favoritism imo. When she did bad she was in the bottom, when she did well she was in the top. Only things I would maybe change is give Crystal the makeover win but I’d also give Jaida the ball win so it evens out anyway

  • @ccdaly2561
    @ccdaly2561 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    For what it's worth, Tartan Around with Lawrence Chaney is hysterical

  • @DiegoSchneider320
    @DiegoSchneider320 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Nina Flowers is one of the bests off all time

    • @MylingCyrus
      @MylingCyrus ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ahead of her time truly

  • @qveenspring
    @qveenspring ปีที่แล้ว +378

    i genuinely hate the talk of the “political climate”. Jaida literally fucking did better. Fuck the PPE, Jaida is what i think of when i think of S12. She was consistently good, funny, good narration, good runways she MADE HERSELF, and she ATE every lipsync she was in. stop discrediting her with “well in the political climate at the time” FUCK THATTTT she ate Gigi in the final, fair and square. THATS why she won.

    • @jameshuntington8644
      @jameshuntington8644 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      factsssss. Gigi was so overrated in the season when she's literally telling us episode one, more or less "mommy makes my drag still." Like, that's great- Jaida is working on her own merits already! She earned that crown 100% ❤️

    • @jebooiii6462
      @jebooiii6462 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Tbh I found Gigi more memorable than Jaida, but Jaida won that finale by a mile. Her solo-act was in my eyes the clear best and she annihilated Gigi and Crystal in the final lip sync.
      So yeah, even if you think the PPE score of Gigi was better, Jaida was the obvious winner

    • @scarynoise996
      @scarynoise996 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@jameshuntington8644 she made one outfit for her jaida deserved the win but there’s litterally no reason to be rude to be rude to Gigi to make a point

    • @jameshuntington8644
      @jameshuntington8644 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@scarynoise996 the fragility to claim it's me being rude. Gigi has her own success and platform and my media consumption and an opinion comment on youtube regarding a past performance is far from bothering or hurting her feelings 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they both have gotten their flowers it just sticks out to me that episode one gigi branded herself by choosing to wear an entrance look her literal mom made and gush/brag about it.

    • @hectae2485
      @hectae2485 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Jaida didn’t do better when Gigi had the best track records, feelings aren’t facts.

  • @JaTaunPratt
    @JaTaunPratt ปีที่แล้ว +107

    This video is another piece of Evidence that James deserved his win on season 2. That "UNT" dominated

  • @ecenbt
    @ecenbt ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Sometimes the correct answer is the most obvious one. Symone, Willow, Lawrance and Krystal Versace all won because RuPaul basically said from day one "i will do everything I can for you to win". Of course it helped greatly that these queens were immensely talented and played the game really well, but it was kinda obvious from the day they appeared on the show that they were winning the season (almost) no matter what transpired over the course of the show

    • @Hello-qv2fx
      @Hello-qv2fx ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I agree but not with Symone. Symone won pretty fairly imo

    • @RNCHFND
      @RNCHFND ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I don't think this applies to Lawrence, but it definitely does in case of Willow.
      I think Lawrence won because she was the best one "before COVID", because that's when Bimini had way more time to prepare, so maybe Ru thought it could be seen as an unfair advantage.

    • @cuddly2003
      @cuddly2003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      definitely agree with this for Lawrence

    • @ecenbt
      @ecenbt ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RNCHFND i don't really understand this argument about Lawrence vs. Bimini and how she prepared during covid because; 1. Bimini was at the top of the competition starting from episode 3, not once the covid break was over. She could've even be at the top in episode 2 if her reveal runway hadn't failed. It's not like she was bottom or middle of the road and gained traction only after the covid break. 2. Everyone had the same time, same opportunities during the covid break. Everyone was trying to get unemployment, it's not like they had other jobs to rely on (except sister sister). Lawrence could've done exactly what Bimini did during the same time, it's not an "unfair competition" just because of the covid break. Only thing that was slightly different was that there were a couple of weeks where queens in England could work (including Bimini) whereas in Glasgow that wasn't possible. But there's no extra prep that Bimini did that couldn't have been done by Lawrence. While saying this, i feel i have to say that I'm a Lawrence Stan and I fully believe her win was deserved. There's just no need to underappreciate Bimini while standing Lawrence

    • @Youokhun
      @Youokhun ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was so shocked at Krystal Versace winning - the first win in a long time where I was like.. really? I just felt she needed more time to grow and the others were more rounded. But she is amazing and gorgeous, just expected to see her back on an all stars instead some day. Like I couldn’t imagine her on an all winners season?

  • @j.santino6202
    @j.santino6202 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Let’s also be real jinkx doniniated all stars 7 monet as amazing as she really was helped by the twist. And yes she did better in the lipsync however nobody was touching jinkx during the series run.

  • @adamolition8702
    @adamolition8702 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm still sour over the fact that Dela decided to leave.. I would've loved to see a queen just win every challenge every week and then take the crown. She would've dominated more than Alaska

  • @davidkonevky7372
    @davidkonevky7372 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I find it hilarious how two times by now Monet has thrown a curveball at the producers by absolutely annihilating the frontrunners on the lipsync for the crown 😅

  • @ytscrownjewell
    @ytscrownjewell ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I just don't think the politics of it all matters when talking about Jaida's win. It just sounds like an excuse. Jaida was the best in the finale period. From the question and answer portion to the lipsync, she was the clear best and that is why she won. There is just no way you can say Gigi won that lipsync.

    • @zackidc
      @zackidc ปีที่แล้ว +25

      i agree with what you’re saying. but i think he’s saying her disregard for covid protocols and politics at the time wouldn’t have looked great on wow. i still think jaida would have won regardless

    • @j.c.jeggis1818
      @j.c.jeggis1818 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's been a while but iirc, Gigi slayed the first 2/3rds of the season and then had a few stumbles towards the end. The judges/producers definitely weigh the most recent performances more.

    • @diegodeleon5787
      @diegodeleon5787 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Also, I distinctly remember Gigi saying the words "I deserve it" in regards to winning. And if I remember correctly, everyone who has ever said that, does not win. Ru's like, no that's my decision to make.

    • @hectae2485
      @hectae2485 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jaida didn’t do the best not even in the finals

    • @iandean1112
      @iandean1112 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@j.c.jeggis1818 I said the same thing about her! She would have won up until the makeover. She didn't turn that out, and that's (for me) when she lost.

  • @CodyJBriscoe
    @CodyJBriscoe ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I really wish for AS1 you had just said the "Chad about to die" quote

  • @shaihulud2977
    @shaihulud2977 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I was absolutely SHOCKED that Trixie won AS3, I really thought it was Shangela’s season

    • @rebelwithacause666
      @rebelwithacause666 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I will never stop being salty about that and I'm a huge Trixie fan. The look on Shanegla's face when she realized she lost again was just heart breaking.

    • @darkwriter_xx94
      @darkwriter_xx94 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Trixie herself seemed shocked.

    • @dj_netwrk4901
      @dj_netwrk4901 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@darkwriter_xx94 RIGHT

    • @meandsambffl
      @meandsambffl ปีที่แล้ว +46

      It wasn’t Shangela’s season, it was Dela’s season. Once she removed herself, it was fair game for the rest of them

    • @rebelwithacause666
      @rebelwithacause666 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@meandsambffl Shangela had just as many wins as Ben did by the time she left, if Ben stayed it would have been between Ben and Shangela for the win.

  • @christywoods9180
    @christywoods9180 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I Love Kim Chi but I reallyyy love Bob and He just wasn't leaving that competition without winning.he carried that season!

  • @davidmorris8319
    @davidmorris8319 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    This heavily depends on how the PPE score is calculated. It would have been nice to see how many points you get for a win, hig, safe, low, bottom placement. It seems bogus to me that Jinkx is only third in AS7 after having won FIVE challenges out of 11. That's almost half the season that she WON. Yes she wasn't high in any episode that she didn't win, but safe shouldn't be valued that low that it's enough to invalidate SO MANY WINS.
    In U's (Ukey's) way of calculating PPE score, Jinkx comes out on top and that makes more sense with the narrative of the season. His scale goes from 5 points for a win, to 4 for high, 3 for safe, 2 for low, 1 for bottom, 0 for elimination. It's a very linear scale that is more intuitive than having different different margins between placements, because at this point it becomes arbitrary what is worth what.

    • @car_afs2672
      @car_afs2672 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In U's video jinkx had the best track record cause he counts mini challenges i think if you dont count them monet and jinkx were tied

    • @ecenbt
      @ecenbt ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@car_afs2672 possible but even in that case it's impossible that Jinkx's score is 3rd best when she's the only person with 5 wins in a 11 competitive episode season

    • @craigslist4428
      @craigslist4428 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Its because they are taking averages and that’s not how math works. If one queen leaves in episode 3 and she ranks higher than someone who makes top 4, should be a red flag that the formula is bogus. In fact, this method makes it more difficult for queens who last more episodes to rank higher because they are gonna have more points to average

    • @pavgarbis888
      @pavgarbis888 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@craigslist4428 exactly why de la had a whopping 9.0 PPE- she was a winner every week and then went home. nothing sullied her average. i agree that this system isn't very good, it leaves way too much up to the minutia of when people get eliminated

    • @SIM0N0WIS
      @SIM0N0WIS ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Who cares if Jinkx won half the challenges and was the clear favorite of Ru and the fans, what’s REALLY important is that she got 0.1 fewer points from an unevenly spaced scoring system invented by a random IG fan page. Any TRUE drag race fan would know that high placements are 8 points, mini challenges are 3 and a half, lip syncs are y=mx+b, carry the 4, and then it’s obvious that the true winner of AS7 is Mrs. Kasha Davis with a score of 74.96 BBL

  • @SrJohnnyCat
    @SrJohnnyCat ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Future All Stars winner: Pangina Heals.

  • @Boggzorz
    @Boggzorz ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I remember hearing at the time for AS4 that they shot super queens AFTER they announced who the top 2 were going to be and that's why Mo and Naomi didn't put that much effort into the song. Not sure if that has been stated to be true or untrue though!

    • @zeyta_org
      @zeyta_org ปีที่แล้ว +18

      That CANNOT be true. And if it is, then the producers are dumb for doing that.

    • @kobemartinez1082
      @kobemartinez1082 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@zeyta_org sadly it can, the S9 reunion was filmed after the finale aired so trinity taylor and shea coulee know they didn’t have a chance at winning, that’s why their attitude is so different! also most recently, monet actually said they told her she wasn’t going to win the season after a challenge she ate up at i forgot which one it was, so she knew all along after that she wasn’t going to win and was really upset after it

    • @pastrychefalfred876
      @pastrychefalfred876 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I also have heard that Mo was just fed up with production and the antics and riggory. during her super queen verse you can kinda tell she is irritated and her energy wasnt as strong as she can show.

    • @AngryCandy89
      @AngryCandy89 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think Trinity said they did film the Crowning first and then the lipsync, but never heard about superqueen being filmed after. Edit: I don't think it's true, because Trinity's critiques about her performance were quite acurate

    • @Boggzorz
      @Boggzorz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AngryCandy89 I can't remember the details (since it was years ago) but I think they did film it in order, but Mo and Naomi were aware they weren't top 2 before the entire day of filming, as it were

  • @cannotthinkofausername6379
    @cannotthinkofausername6379 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Can I just say thank you to Drag Detective for remaining so positive on a subject matter that makes a lot of fans turn defensive and hateful to the queens, every single one of the winners has a reason they won and I think it is great to celebrate and praise them whilst also acknowledging how well other contestants did on the show

  • @joshbutt5777
    @joshbutt5777 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    In regards to you talking about mo heart looking/acting defeated during the super queen performance. I'm pretty sure some tea was spilled saying they filmed the performance AFTER the runway and final 2 lip sync so she knew she had literally no shot, which is so disappointing bc seeing her like that after being this incredible light on the show was heart breaking

    • @workinprogress3329
      @workinprogress3329 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why would they film it after ?? That’s so odd.

  • @airtempest8945
    @airtempest8945 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    34:12 Apparently, they didn't even re-record Camden's crowning after there was a problem with her confetti or something during it.
    That's probably the moment Willow knew 1000% she was winning if production didn't even care enough to film Camden's crowning properly 🤣

    • @greynotchristian
      @greynotchristian ปีที่แล้ว +31

      oh damn that's just disrespectful

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@greynotchristian I mean, they also let everyone but Angeria do their finale performance twice so like...
      Wasn't the first time that finale that they just did not care.

    • @greynotchristian
      @greynotchristian ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@airtempest8945 i was better before in knew this : |

    • @khole5809
      @khole5809 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@airtempest8945 so rude if true....

    • @ryanmeyers2930
      @ryanmeyers2930 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I thought it was that Camden’s crowning had confetti shot from one side of the stage whereas Willow’s crowning has like three confetti cannons go off from all different sides of the stage. So it was clear who production wanted to win.

  • @DereBear
    @DereBear ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tbh though… I think Trixie won that lip sync. Kennedy put herself in the back of the stage while Trixie stood front and center and basically monologued

  • @Octobris
    @Octobris ปีที่แล้ว +40

    They pick someone on the basis of "Which archetype have we not crowned in a long time? What would look good PR-wise? Who will do good in promotional stuff?"
    Miss Pie really fucked it up for them 😆 she was set to win, but that's why Jaida feels like the most deserving winner ever, because she wasn't banked on, but she did amazing regardless.
    I'm saying this as Sasha's eternal stan.
    Overall, the less production meddling, the better winner, at least to me.

    • @user-ry1yf5sm8q
      @user-ry1yf5sm8q ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But jaida winning was good cuz they hadn’t had a pageant winner since way back with Bebe but they had fairly recently had a campy comedy winner in bob

    • @Octobris
      @Octobris ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-ry1yf5sm8q that's a good point

  • @allsugars
    @allsugars ปีที่แล้ว +44

    please do the riggory of season 9/how season 9 should have went

    • @cian9350
      @cian9350 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      we all know Nina would have won

    • @Octobris
      @Octobris ปีที่แล้ว +11

      As someone who believe Sasha is untouchable, I'd be interested in a video like that, even if Sasha's win would be questioned 😆

    • @blackmanta9697
      @blackmanta9697 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cian9350 the first episode, yes. Not the entire season

  • @pretty-bi5sr
    @pretty-bi5sr ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I still don't understand how the fans were acting like Ella completely FLOPPED the finale when most ppl agree that her verse was the best one and it's a really good verse. yea her runway was not it but I remember ppl being so dramatic about it, it wasn't THAT bad

    • @niekklaver3030
      @niekklaver3030 ปีที่แล้ว

      Her lipsync was also tragic

    • @demeliou3844
      @demeliou3844 ปีที่แล้ว

      She flopped her runway and the final lip sync was painful to watch

  • @axlpavon5810
    @axlpavon5810 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Respect all the queens guys please ❤️. Just be nice, winners are winners for a reason!

  • @SrJohnnyCat
    @SrJohnnyCat ปีที่แล้ว +9

    30:40 “The Red One” I CANT. 😭😂

    • @darienoneal7475
      @darienoneal7475 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That and "The Spooky One" for season 4😂

  • @oscarsoto8428
    @oscarsoto8428 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The "versus" franchise is tainted for me. It feels like whoever is "hosting" that particular season will have a winner from that country, which makes all other queens from other countries set dressing. I say have queens from various countries EXCEPT the host country to ensure there is some illusion of fairness, at minimum.

    • @gourl6575
      @gourl6575 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      This comment would not aged well

    • @oscarsoto8428
      @oscarsoto8428 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@gourl6575 I mean, I’ll eat my words if someone who isn’t Canadian wins Canada vs The World next year, but for now, that is what the Versus series is serving.

    • @kiannutbrown
      @kiannutbrown ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@oscarsoto8428 i will say you’re saying this when only one vs the world season has been released, no hate tho

    • @ItGirlCaliiopx
      @ItGirlCaliiopx ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "tainted" it has barely one season with 6 episodes 😭😭😭

    • @iandean1112
      @iandean1112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm super skeptical about any of them coming up. I want those seasons to be about celebrating what we DONT see in the US

  • @MrCyberGal
    @MrCyberGal ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I think also many times it's better for a winner to have peaks and valleys, good moments and bad moments, than to be consistently good all season.
    As for Lawrence and Krystal, it's quite simple, they were Ru's favourites, and they performed well enough that crowning them wouldn't have been super controversial. Like, you know that if Jorgeous had done better on Season 14 she'd have 100% won because Ru loved her.

  • @user-lw9ut2ms6m
    @user-lw9ut2ms6m ปีที่แล้ว +27

    No secret. No mystery. RuPaul picks the top placements before the season is even filmed and him and producers hope that their picks make it to the top and if they don’t they’ll help push them through production value.

    • @kev7600
      @kev7600 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What’s the problem? That’s reality tv business.

    • @luiselionmartinez1567
      @luiselionmartinez1567 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kev7600 because is unfair? imagine Black peppa not winning uk4 because Ru and producers wanted Jonbers to be on top. its unfair

    • @kaylafrost1304
      @kaylafrost1304 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you’re just using JB as a place holder lmao there’s no way ru will crown her with that name she hates so much 😅 I don’t think she’ll make top three

    • @luiselionmartinez1567
      @luiselionmartinez1567 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaylafrost1304 don't worry, tbh i dont have high expectations for JB, trackrecord-wise i feel is going to be Dakota

    • @kev7600
      @kev7600 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luiselionmartinez1567 BP did well in one episode and was quite forgettable afterwards.

  • @colebeck6528
    @colebeck6528 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Violet destroyed everyone on the runway most of the weeks as well while ginger struggled with the runways

    • @davidkonevky7372
      @davidkonevky7372 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also ginger was super mean to the younger queens for no reason around the end which made her going to the top very bittersweet. It was giving roxxy andrews bullying jinkx

    • @colebeck6528
      @colebeck6528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidkonevky7372 yes and violet had a better track record. Lots of reasons she won that the fan base seemingly forgets a lot. I think part of why season 7 doesn’t work is a lot of the maxi challenges don’t lend themselves to violet with some exceptions and she still walked away with the best track record. If you were to place her on a more fashion challenge season like season 3 she likely annihilates. I have similar thoughts about them not featuring a stand up comedy challenge on season 8 which would’ve been an amazing opportunity to show off Bob as their winner even more.

  • @SSugarFishy
    @SSugarFishy ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I hope we get to see Ella Vaday on a future all stars season of sorts, I really loved her on uk3 and was heartbroken when she lost (which is understandable as to why she did)

  • @zackidc
    @zackidc ปีที่แล้ว +9

    tbh i don’t think rosé would have won because she didn’t really have a consistent or intriguing storyline besides wanting to win. she didn’t really have any ups and downs or have much vulnerability in terms of the competition. for me, personally, symone was just more interesting to watch throughout the season and it was satisfying to see her win.

    • @SIM0N0WIS
      @SIM0N0WIS ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah she was caught in the same trap as Miz Cracker. Although I think in Rose’s case it was also her runways and her lip syncs, which don’t always affect track record but definitely affect people’s perceptions of who has star power. She just didn’t really have any “wow” moments…

  • @Oscar-qt9ud
    @Oscar-qt9ud ปีที่แล้ว +14

    But damn! AS7 was soooo close between Monet, Trinity and Jinkx

  • @Tracy_Motel
    @Tracy_Motel ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Imagine if raja and manila on all stars 7 getting the twinners storyline and they're both good at the game.

  • @G-Hop226
    @G-Hop226 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Fun fact: Ginger confirmed in an interview recently that RuPaul told her in person she should’ve won Season 7

    • @chrisbuckley1785
      @chrisbuckley1785 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I bet she did. 🤔😂😂

    • @davidkonevky7372
      @davidkonevky7372 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To me she's still just a very sore loser

  • @Larucos
    @Larucos ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'll never get over Krystal Versace doing the bare minimum and the judges like "omg i can't believe you actually tried, the stereotype of pretty queen is that they don't try at all but you kinda tried a little so you win the challenge" and everyone watching like 🤡
    Idk, i had forgotten about that season and now I'm re-triggered

    • @demeliou3844
      @demeliou3844 ปีที่แล้ว

      She had raw talent and impeccable aesthetics. It was impressive she was able to keep up with Ella and Kitty who were trained actors. While excelling at performance and runway.

  • @jackh7889
    @jackh7889 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I do think production wanted Lawrence to win, and then lockdown they probably didn't expect Bimini to slay the challenges so still gave it to Lawerence in the end.

    • @tinkerella
      @tinkerella ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i mean, it made more sense for Lawrence to win for them. The prize was a WOW show and Bimini just didnt seem to represent the brand. Lately she even seems to be distancing from the brand and cancelled her spot on the across the pond tour here. Lawrence had more long term gain for them.

  • @Tyroldis
    @Tyroldis ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The only person I am really sad didn't win is Bimini.

  • @salvatore2004
    @salvatore2004 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think drag race picks their winners using 5 categories:
    1. Longevity
    2. Fan reception
    3. Will it make good tv
    4. Is it a satisfying ending to the seasons overarching storyline?
    5. Can they lip sync?
    1. Obviously longevity is important in a winner, this queen is ultimately going to represent the brand for the next year or until their rein (spelling?) ends.
    2. This may be the most important one. If online fan votes are not you a queen's favour or the fandom doesn't like that Queen, they will most likely not win. An example of this could be Jeremy on s4, they were a top three finalist with 2 wins and 1 bottom, they could've won but because of fan reception they didn't (and the fact that sh@ron did better)
    3. There's no way on s9 they were crowning peppermint, not after sashas iconic stunt, because it made good TV.
    4. This last one is a bit niche so I'll give the example of yvie oddly, yvie winning was a satisfying ending to s11 because she was the underdog, and had slayed most of the season usually landing in the top 3 for most challanges, if someone like Brooke had won, it wouldn't have been a satisfying ending to the season as we never really got to know her, and she never had much storyline.
    5. Self explanatory
    There is also C.U.N.T. but I believe overtime that's lost its meaning
    I belive if a queen can check at least 3 boxes, they have a good chance at winning. Thanks for coming to my Ted-talk (^o^)

  • @conorscrafts
    @conorscrafts ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this video idea, I’d LOVE if you’d do this for international seasons. I wanna hear your views and opinions on seasons like Holland 2 and Italia!

  • @BSchnizzleness
    @BSchnizzleness ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I was confused why Jessica was in the top three for season 2, then I remember how Jujubee did 🫢

  • @trashcan5359
    @trashcan5359 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seasons 1-9 all valid
    All stars and any season after 9 is to pander to the social media fan base

  • @j-_-1797
    @j-_-1797 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    just want to point out that talking about the fact that one of the reasons behind Kylie’s win probably was production trying to cover up Ru’s past transphobia is not transphobic
    Some people seem unable to tell the difference between these things
    It’s just the same as pointing out that one of the reasons behind Violet’s win was the show’s attempt at gearing itself towards younger audiences

    • @kennethbepps
      @kennethbepps ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed..I think Monique Heart showed the most growth out of all the other queens in the finale.

  • @arininquotes8396
    @arininquotes8396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great analysis! And I appreciate you mentioning that you'll moderate comments at the end ❤️

  • @LM11116
    @LM11116 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    for all stars 1 it would've been nice if you went into why chad was chosen over shannel

  • @zakgravett379
    @zakgravett379 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think that Gisele is the weirdest winner in terms of track record as she had three safe placements in a row and only had one high placement.

  • @leoleague6053
    @leoleague6053 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Yes, 40 minutes of pure heaven to my ears. ❤

  • @lip8781
    @lip8781 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I would like to say one more thing about All Stars 7. Nobody in this fandom can deny Jinkx her win (and you, Drag Detective, clearly don’t, but some in the fandom do). Monét definitely had some unforgettable moments, first and foremost her opera performance and Designing Women lip-sync. But when it comes to Jinkx, you will NEVER, forget her Judy Garland. You will NEVER forget her Draguation Speech story. You will NEVER forget her roast. You will NEVER forget her ear falling off in the improv and you will never forget her screaming at her son to get a job. They both have their strengths and weaknesses, but all together I think it’s right that Jinkx won this season. (I was rooting for Raja and Vivienne btw.)

    • @Youokhun
      @Youokhun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I love monet outside the franchise and follow everything but I feel on the show in each of the 3 seasons I didn’t expect her to win any of them. In all stars she picked up momentum at the end of both seasons plus the fact production love her as much as I do.. but still was shocked 😂

  • @kimlouie6253
    @kimlouie6253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one thing I really took in this video is just how good the promos are like bitch damn look how good everyone looks

  • @davidmercer803
    @davidmercer803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a video about where are the queens who would’ve won based off track record careers vs who prodcution decided based off your findings in this video and see if it was a wise decision or not? Love your videos!!!

  • @LightestKing
    @LightestKing ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In what world was Gigi Goode the fan favorite by the finale? At the beginning yes, but throughout the season people started hating Gigi for the amount of favouritism she was getting throughout the season. I think the moment I knew she probably wasn't going to win was the Madonna Rusical, people went insane when Jan wasn't given the win for that and it only got worse when two queens representing their minority groups with their Stars and Stripes runway Widow Von Du and Jackie Cox were placed in the bottom over Gigi in Choices 2020. If anything Jaida and Crystal were the only non hated queens by the time the finale came, but Crystal wasn't gonna win with one win and one bottom right after Yvie Oddly did the same the season before.

  • @duckydae
    @duckydae หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:57 to be fair, lawrence was so loved in uk especially further up and a lot of welsh fans turned to lawrence when tayce was eliminated.
    i also think whas so interesting and yet to be recreated in another series was the sheer volume of regional queens. two scottish, a welsh queen, a’whora, cherry valentine and jinny lemon, sister sister, veronica green are all from in and around the north of england with only four queens being southerners (joe black, asttina, tia kofi and bimini) which is unheard of on most uk shows let alone drag race which is full of londoners and people from manc with the token, celtic queen.
    lawrence represents regional, working-class everyday day drag (that’s absolutely ridiculed and ignored by ru and michelle) that’s the reality for most brits on a night out going to a drag bingo / brunch.

  • @arii7248
    @arii7248 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s really nice to see a breakdown which removes the demographics (race/gender/size) from the reasoning, it’s so easy to go down a route which doesn’t require much thought.
    I felt Bebe won because she was most like the image RuPaul wanted to portray and as you said most conservative to give certain people less to whine about. I do feel for the queens who do well who are very similar in drag style to the queen who won the previous season as their chance of winning is cut and it is pleasing to see a diverse hall of winners but their diversity being happenstance rather than reasoning. All the winners bring their own flavour to the show.

  • @asaabrahamagulnik574
    @asaabrahamagulnik574 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    During the UK2 Pandemic Season, I think part of the reason for choosing their winner was exploring whether Bimini would have done that well if not for the pandemic break.

  • @tyagirodriguez4947
    @tyagirodriguez4947 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I honestly don't think Kennedy won the Wrecking Ball lipsync. She was doing plenty of beautiful stunts, but between being in all black, a big wig and dancing nonstop you couldn't see her face that much, and she wasnt giving the emotion of the song. Trixie didnt do amazing by any means, but sue completed the assignment which (IMHO) Kennedy did not

    • @Octobris
      @Octobris ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed

    • @danmilliken
      @danmilliken ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yup. All black was an especially bad strategic choice because it just doesn’t pop on camera, at least on Drag Race’s stage. Trixie was right to pick a bright outfit and stay close to the front of the stage so it was easy to capture her moments in a song that’s all about emotion.

    • @tyagirodriguez4947
      @tyagirodriguez4947 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danmilliken My thoughts exactly

    • @Mendejito
      @Mendejito ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She was wrecking ball….she won for me aha

  • @user-rz6kt3vg3b
    @user-rz6kt3vg3b ปีที่แล้ว

    so excited about the new video!! :)))

  • @alihaydarcolak8534
    @alihaydarcolak8534 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I know almost all of you gonna hate me but Lawrence FUCKING ATE EVERYONE UP! The best? Maybe not but fucking killed the season. The best accent, the best TV persona, the funniest bitch!

    • @zoinomiko
      @zoinomiko ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hell yeah always team Lawrence!!

    • @Jayjay_07
      @Jayjay_07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She was also the second best to Tayce in the finale and all her wins were deserved

    • @alihaydarcolak8534
      @alihaydarcolak8534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jayjay_07 sorry, Tayce was good at lip sync in the finale.

    • @starsheen1
      @starsheen1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've always been team Lawrence and the pushback from her win has ALWAYS baffled me!!

  • @kings4300
    @kings4300 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They could easly switch a song for Jinkx but they probably chose her as a winner and the song was to keep people talking about the season.
    The track record in AS7 is pretty even for all the queens but Jinkx had more moments that made her stand out.

  • @JUANFRANCIO
    @JUANFRANCIO ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You all thinking Monet´s track record was better than Jinkx...... THE NERVE.

  • @kecorpse
    @kecorpse ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate your message at the end lol

  • @jt4351
    @jt4351 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy these drag race review type of channels.
    It's also wild to see how people experience the show differently. Some of your comments that no one was rooting for X or Z or that so and so annihilated the competition did not resonate with me. I still found entertaining to hear your reasoning, even if at times, I had extremely opposite opinions. Regardless, good for you for all the work and research that goes into making a 30+ min video.

  • @raulportela5454
    @raulportela5454 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can we acknowledge one thing? NOBODY CARES ABOUT P.P.E. SCORE! People only care about win and bottom 2...

  • @jorgemorollondeandres2993
    @jorgemorollondeandres2993 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Poor Ella, she admitted she had a back injured so she couldn't performed during the lipsync (I didn't fancy her dress buuuuuuut)

  • @DavidPuckArtist
    @DavidPuckArtist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IMO what determines the winners the most is “It factor”, uniqueness, and how much production/Ru likes them. Track record doesn’t really matter. Queens can have an amazing consistent track record but if the show doesn’t see them as special then they aren’t winning.

  • @go0sejuice
    @go0sejuice ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can’t wrap my head around eureka having the highest score of all stars 6 that doesn’t seem right at all

  • @rosemarie4708
    @rosemarie4708 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dont get why the only reason people think trixie won is because of her platform even if yes, lets not kid oursleves, it is mostly that.People are ignoring the fact that she still had a better trackrecord than kennedy. Also, shangela wasnt robbed by trixie so why is she still getting the hate and being discredited (I'm talking generally and not about this video, I'm not targeting anyone) It's the same story with alasaka's win, she was way better than katya but so many people where yelling about how the latter was robbed and saying alaska shouldnt have won because of that.

  • @nokocchi1983
    @nokocchi1983 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    queens I think still deserve a crown:
    Shangela
    Bendelacreme
    Gigi Goode
    Miz Cracker
    Monique Heart
    Ginger Minj

  • @snowpriors
    @snowpriors ปีที่แล้ว +6

    and i’ll say it again i LOVE Monét and it would be weird to not have her as a winner, but based on the final four Monique should’ve really been out here as the twinner also she showed so such growth imo. and with monique ppe being so close to MANILA (the robbed) i really feel a way now cause i knew she did better then monét at the time wowww. i will agree monet destroyed that last episode tho!

  • @MaggyRarefication
    @MaggyRarefication ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like for the UK series they just crown Rupaul's favorite throughout the series which I love since it shakes it up from crowning the fan favorite all the time

  • @blump5080
    @blump5080 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's a question: how often does the 1st episode winner win the whole season?

  • @JetPackDino
    @JetPackDino ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's interesting about Season 8. I knew Kim Chi wasn't going to win when she shut down aaaaany possibility of telling her mom about her drag career--- but I didn't realize she technically outscored even Bob the Drag Queen.

    • @demeliou3844
      @demeliou3844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kim Chi was not versatile and was protecting from lip syncing because she could not

  • @Mendejito
    @Mendejito ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’d really like for us to stop downplaying Bimini in the first half of the season. She literally only didn’t do well the first episode

    • @danmilliken
      @danmilliken ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adore Bimini, but her botched balloon runway in the Rats episode was cringey and arguably her worst moment of the season. She was solid in the challenge but could’ve easily been thrown in the bottom 2-3 again for that if they’d wanted.

    • @Mendejito
      @Mendejito ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danmilliken hard disagree that she could be bottom for it but it was definitely cringey

  • @juancarlosmontoya5283
    @juancarlosmontoya5283 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I disagree with the comment regsrding All Star 7. Although Monet's lip sync was iconic, it would have been a travesty not to crown Jinkx when she killed the season. No shade to Monet, but she got ahead of Jinkx because of the 3 star twist which in my opinion left a sour taste in people's mouths as queens who performed better in the season where left out of the top 4 (i.e. The Vivienne). Monet is a great queen and I live for her drag but this season in my opinion was Jinkx's to win

  • @vitor8048
    @vitor8048 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe an unpopular opinion about All Stars 7, but my main point for prefering Jinkx over Monet: Jinkx won in her original season, and, most important, she indisputably deserved the victory on the season she won. All Stars 4 should have been Trinity's alone so Monet shouldn't even be there.
    I think Monet did better than Jinkx and deserved more victories than she had, while Jinkx was kinda pushed sometimes, but I just couldn't get over this pre-conception I had when I started the season. Trinity did beat Monet in their lip sync though, so if we say Monet should have won for the lip sync, we need to acknowledge she shouldn't be in the final round either.

  • @hectae2485
    @hectae2485 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s almost as if “ppe” scores are fan made and not real 😮

    • @Jays6926
      @Jays6926 ปีที่แล้ว

      ☕️ ❤😂

  • @ordinaryorca9334
    @ordinaryorca9334 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think that PPE scores don't make sense as a metric, from the start we've been reminded of the importance of wins and later on the amounts of bottoms/lip syncs. The show just uses different rules where a queen with 1 win and only safe placements is seen as more of a frontrunner than one who has consistently been high.
    Look at Miz Cracker, she had succesfully been high for the majority of season 10 and still she wasn't seen as winner material, or Sasha Velour, many people still discredit her win, not due to PPE but having half as many wins as Shea and both of those being shared with her, I think more people would have been fine with crowning Trinity than Sasha because she had more wins.
    Wins and bottoms would at least make it so more winners make sense, even though PPE is a fairer system...

  • @crimsonite2044
    @crimsonite2044 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    seasons 7, 11, 13, AS2 & AS3 are IMO the biggest examples of Riggory and Production Fuckery in US Drag Race especially AS2, Phi Phi Tati were mistreated and Alaska was unnecessarily favored, she could have won on her own

  • @Iam29941
    @Iam29941 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    as for the non Ru hosted seasons id say :
    Holland S1 : Track record (like...envy have litteratly the best track record on drag race so even thoi though janey won that lip sync like it just woudnt be correct to not crown her )
    Holland S2 : Lip sync ( I think Vannessa really got lucky with the rigged vivaldi thing cause she had the worst track out of final 3 but they had too cut vivaldi from the lip sync cause...i mean...She was my fav but she cheated. So Vannessa was able to lip sync for the crown and destroy puny )
    Espana S1 : Lip sync and track ( i mean its carmen she slayed the season literatly killed everybody on the makover and then revealed a wet wig and an emotionnal song...soooo yeah )
    Espana s2 : Lip sync and track ( just like carmen, Sharonne slayed her season, was the best on the best talent show on drag race ever and overall did the best on her final lip sync )
    Canada 1 : Lip sync...? and maybe also bc they did not had other choices ( Pryanka slayed her lip syncs but i also think that they kinda had no other option out of the top 3. Rita was favoritised so bad And scarlet got her win in their last competitive episode and even tho she was the best on the final lip syncs she wasnt winnign this )
    Canada 2 : Lip sync ( here i think its a case of the queen with the best track didnt do well at lip sync while the 2nd best track is a lip sync assasin )
    Canada 3 : Favoritism of Jada And fierce getting her first win late ( Now here i think its a case of we want jada in the lip sync cause they knew that she would brought emotion and honestly it was between gisele and fierce but fierce got her win very late which rarely happen for a winner to have their first win after like episode 5 )
    France 1 : track record ( Im gonna be short cause its my country and i love love LOVE this season but...Paloma is possibly the only potential contender to beat bianca del rio on a comedy challenge period)
    Italia 1 : They...felt bad too robbed her the whole season...? ( idk elektra bionic is like to me the biggest mystery when it comes too winning...did she deserved it ? yes. Did the season showed ? no. did she did the best in the lip sync ? I dont think...They edited Farida's reveal which i though could have gives her the crown so i really dont get that one im veyr confused- )
    Aaaaand thats it i think i cant say about thailand bc i havent watch them ( and i really dont understand the format im sure its simple but i just dont get it- and no one has exaplained to me so i someone can it would be great )

    • @Iam29941
      @Iam29941 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cali Yeah i dont know why they didnt do like lyric for the queens to make cause that just made this part very akward and it felt like they had to include ru somewhere or they would had get sued.
      But also i though she shoudnt have been in the bottom for the girl group even tho i still think soa and lolita where the best ( i could just say the nails but elips was my least favorite verse of the 6 ) i though paloma had the most catchy verse in a good way and i though she should have been high with bertha and elips in the bottom but that might be just me
      Also about overall the season ive notice some mirror moments with Nicky on S12 Like with kam the fashion queen whos leaving early and let LGD who was portrayed as the fashion queen who slayed snatch game ( even tho i personnaly though Paloma had better looks than LGD ) Be the fashion queen of the rest of the season kinda like when nicky left So Gigi could shine more in the runway
      Or also the Lolita banana storyline which is very controversal for xenophobic issue ( that ill blame on production and maybe some guest judges but not towards the queens or the Judges ) but to me it felt like just like nicky on S12 lolita was a very Fun queen but sometimes had that barriere language ( like snatch game ) that didnt help her but at least unlike ru nicky actually suported her a lot so i though that was really cute on nicky's side of the story ( but we could say alot of shit toward production like literatly edited 2 queens has almost racist even tho im pretty sure bertha and lolita were frienemies and Soa was litteratly a CF taken out of context ) and i also think that they kinda forced the judges to say thing that they didnt said on stage just to give reasons of why she is not winning like kiddy saying that she is relying to much on her heritage which felt very forced and unatural comming for the one who is the most positive judge out of the 3 but thet worst think and the thing that im sure was so forced that even nicky didnt wanted to do it is the who should go home. it was just sooo painful for us too see the queen picking lolita based on friendship and im sure it was also on nicky who got the exact same treatment on her season...

    • @Iam29941
      @Iam29941 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cali I 100% Agree Nicky is such an icon in France And i remenber that in the begening people though that nicky would make the season flop that they wanted LGD to host thinking she would won the season anyway 💀 i dont think daphnée and kiddy should be replaced kiddy is really sweet and just giving positive energy while still giving harsh critique when it needs to be said ( well exept from that one scripted critique from the makover towards lolita...) As for daphnée she is a harsher critique but not in a way to make the queen feels like shit or anything and also its mostly constructive critiques. What i think should change for season 2 is that Production dont mess with the judges and that they dont do tv drama by making things out of context i just hate how they tried their hardest to make a regular drag race season with such a lovely cast so they had to make Kam a shady queen even tho she is such a sweetheart
      or making rivalries that make one person look like a racist and the other like she is victimising herself.
      As for the girl group i guess im delusionnal-
      Also Briocher is such an unpopular icon and my favorite singer simply for the fact that she did the french cover of "addict" and is litteratly the french dub of angel dfust from hazbin hotel. And her Drag style is Super fun and i love it and i want her on an all star for early boot cause she could slay this- ( ik im saying shit that has nothing to do with the previosu sentence help-
      💀)

  • @alihaydarcolak8534
    @alihaydarcolak8534 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If Krystal Versace were funny throughout the whole season like she was in the roast and the end of the season, she'd have the best ppe for druk3

  • @go0sejuice
    @go0sejuice ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve always wondered if they chose kylie over ra’jah because rupaul had recently gotten a lot of backlash when he made some transphobic comments like since kylie and ra’jah easily could’ve won but crowning kylie also benefits ru so he picked kylie

  • @brownwynrodriguez8784
    @brownwynrodriguez8784 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi drag detective! We are actually looking forward for you to analyze the Drag Race Philippines
    As It was a really fun season, the cast were amazong, they are serving on challenges, runways and even drama, one of the best season!!!

  • @RNCHFND
    @RNCHFND ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "People would have been fine with either Rajah or Kylie winning." Well, isn't that Liza Minelli

  • @bnoah2000
    @bnoah2000 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    No matter how that final lipsync of AS4 went we were getting a double win no matter what. Monet winning the lipsync didn't determine her also winning, we were getting 2 winners no matter what. Production has to plan giving away $200,000 like that. My headcanon is they wanted to double crown Latrila but we saw how that turned out.

    • @chrislate6228
      @chrislate6228 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But they didn't plan it did they. Surely they would've had the foresight to actually film a double win if they knew there was going to be a double win no matter what? Nah, they only decided they were going to do a double win as the season was airing and they saw the fan's reactions to the show.

  • @christywoods9180
    @christywoods9180 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I couldnt figure out how Monet didn't at least get 50k also like Raja cuz they were the lower scored Queens and won more than the top Queens,but I'm a Raja Lover and Am so glad She won 50k and was happy and had Fun!!!

  • @inventions178
    @inventions178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    James now doesnt mind being referred to as Tyra now.

  • @alwolfy1782
    @alwolfy1782 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a really interesting video. I am surprised that Bob The Drag queen wasn't higher. At the time it felt like they were annihilating the competition. It goes to show that your personal perspective isn't always the truth. This is one of my favourite videos I've seen on a while so thanks for that.

  • @JadeyChi
    @JadeyChi ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ella vaday should have definitely won and I think that's the angriest I've ever been about a crowning. Usually I kind of shrug if the other person wins because usually they've done pretty equally but it was very clear Krystal won because they were favored by production... sometimes the show is RuPaul's best friend race
    To be clear I've seen Krystal live a few times and she's great I just don't think she should have won

    • @zoinomiko
      @zoinomiko ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ella's talked about having a back injury for the finale as well :(

    • @blackmanta9697
      @blackmanta9697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zoinomiko apparently she only wore that dress because of her injury. I think Ella did the best in the rumix so imo, I don't think she bombed hard enough to not deserve the crown. That being said, I feel Kitty killed every party of the finale and the overall season, so why did krystal win? Eh ru has her favourites.

  • @owentravis8901
    @owentravis8901 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will never u derstand what this person had against Lawrence chaney 🤣🤣🤣 people were almost divided between bimini and Lawrence.
    Are we also forgetting how bimini should have been in the bottom against tayce for that lockdown design challenge 🤣

  • @rebeccaw6253
    @rebeccaw6253 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i just watched season 10 (for the first time) and thought Aquaria took risks in the finale lip-syncs. i believe they edited it but there was something about her energy, smile, and costuming that made me excited. i was surprised how much i liked her on the show (i mean she did get a great edit)

  • @donttalk8560
    @donttalk8560 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    james is bringing trya back but only on onlyfans

    • @jn7876
      @jn7876 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IM CRYING LMAO