MegatronusOrionpax 137 Because he did it without the treadmill before. Barry has the potential to be just as fast as Wally, I think Wally just has a better grasp on it somehow
Darryl Jones Jr. I hope he does, thank you for confirming what I said though, I was a little co fused when Rob said he had to use it and stuff. Why do you think Wally is portrayed as being faster than Barry?
Barry Allen is the fastest flash period becuz he the one who created the speed force smh how don’t u know this without Barry there is no speed force and also Barry do not need the cosmic treadmill to run thru time smh
"If you don't help me, you'll never run again!" Wally is coming off as a badass in this story. Can't blame him for being so angry and willing to do anything. If my son disappeared, I'd do anything to find him. My dog passed away last week, potentially poisoned by an asshole putting out rat poison that somehow made it into multiple people's yards. Nearly killed my neighbor's dog as well. I will do what I need to do to find the asshole responsible and make him pay. Not the same as a child, but my pitbull was like my best friend, and he deserves justice, just like wally deserves to find his kids by any means necessary.
Wally is only faster because of the emotional connection to his kids in this story if it were Barry trying to save Iris and wally trying to stop him Barry would pull ahead too but Barry's already learned from his mistakes.
I love this still, I like much more Barry Allen as Flash than Wally and I'm not saying he sucks or anything, it's just that Barry was the first Flash using the speedforce and well, he actually out-raced death, that for me is a classic. On my personal fav also Jay Garrick will always be the first flash.
Nick Jojo Im aware but on a seperate occasion prior to flash rebirth and flashpoint barry outran death, yes later he became both the black flash and the black racer flash but he also outran it on a seperate occasion
Rob I have to be honest, I'm a huge fan but the one thing that consistently disappoints me about your channel is the lack of Swamp Thing content. Like come on man. Although its true that his most recent reincarnations have frankly been weak in regards to the writing, that doesn't make the original saga bad material to cover
The thing I love about speedsters in dc is that each one has an ability that not they can do and no other speedster can do it but them I always enjoyed that
What I love so much about this story is Barry if he was older and more experience would find a way to help Wally find his children and save the speed force but because of new 52 and rebirth he’s younger and less experienced and doesn’t have the capabilities yet. Rebirth has two flashes with equal experience but now Wally can show how much stronger he is.
Great vids bud. But when you get excited, you talk so fast man, I have to go back a listen a few times to catch up with what you're saying, slow it down a bit and your golden. Thanks for the explanations. Great channel.
So, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that because Barry is the Creator of the Speedforce, he'll have the ability to cut someone off from it. Which is where this story is going to end up going. Wally is acting erratic, to be honest, he's acting like a damn fool. Sure he wants to save his kids, but breaking the entire timeline to do it isn't going to save them. Wally won't heed Barry's warnings about playing with the timeline, and because Barry's made that mistake, he'll use this unknown (to the dc readers) ability to simply sever Wally Wests connection to the Speedforce. This will lead Wally to becoming Eobards pupil, and learn to tap into the Negative Speed force.
Personally I never understood how Wally was faster than Barry , Barry essentially created the speed force Wally just has a really potent connection to it. But who knows maybe Barry has been holding back all this time
WreckItRyan Wally has been faster because he's had years of learning how to harness it. You gotta read Flash Vol 2 man. In Flash Vol 2 Wally learned how to harness it's power, he gained a mainline connection to the speed force after reaching nirvana with it which meant he couldn't have his speed taken. Not just that but due to his mastery he also gained abilities such as stealing speed and lending speed and it doesn't matter if Barry created the speed force if you've trained with something for a long time you become better which in this case Wally became more powerful then Barry ever was due to how much better he was getting with the speedforce in Flash Vol 2
6:56 when she asked who else is missing I was at let me go down the list your kids the tornado twins, Max Mercury, Jay Garrett, your grandkid Bart Allen, and his cousin and also her father if he still alive.
Ive seen stuff where Joshua Williamson talks about how Wally was his favorite Flash, but then he started writing Flash. When that happened he fell in love with Barrys character and he backtracked on Wally so much so that he started to believe he had "won the lottery" and that "we shouldnt like the guy who won the lottery". So im pretty sure that Flash War is gonna end with Barry winning and Wally getting COMPLETELY fucked and if so im gonna hate him lol
Hey Rob, do you ever do episodes about the authors, or industry related changes? I realize most people might think this is boring, but any aspiring writers, artists, or producers might dig it... Just a thought.
Didn’t Barry enter the time stream by running in Flashpoint tho??? You said only Wally can time travel by running without the treadmill....I’m confused...🤔🤔🤔🤔
In year one, he already time travelled to the future, saving Central City from King Turtle, that's without the treadmill and it's only been months since he got his powers. He never needed the treadmill, it's his fear that pushes him back unlike wally.
Dr. Manhattan is not behind all. Someone else is pulling the strings. He can't change reality and he states that himself in the original Watchman. Plus, that would be too easy.
So, where's that one guy from the comments that was ABSOLUTELY SURE this wasn't Pre-Flashpoint Wally because "he didn't remember his kids"??? I'd very much like to hear from that guy now.
I do personally think Barry will eventually be faster then wally. Wally had 20 years to get faster but I dont think it will really last seeing as that Barry getting more popular by the minute and he literally generates the speed force.
For those wondering as of the New 52, Barry Allen creating the Speed Force was retconned out and he is only connected to it like the other speedsters. It’s why he could lose his connection to the Speed Force when he became the Negative Flash and when Grodd stole his connection from him.
TheFlyingLegend nope if he is the creator then he should be able to always generate the speed force. he’s been cut off the speed force multiple times in the new 52
TheFlyingLegend yeah lot of things has been retconned in both new 52 and rebirth. currently barry is no longer the creator of the speed force and that’s what matters. so wally would have the upper hand even more now
and Dont forget in this whole thing no one has remembered Jay Garrick yet! Makes me wonder who else might be trapped Jesse and Johnnie? Max mercury? Bart Allen (Even though hes free in the future)?
I feel like all speedsters who are born with the speed force in them have that aging problem. Also the only reason Wally is faster than Barry is because he’s been tapped into the speed force since he was a teenager and Barry has been tapped in since when he was still an adult. I guess it’s that saying where if you learn when your young.
Damien Moloson The Speed force doesn’t do well with younger speedsters especially if you inherit it because for me it almost killed me and the body may not be capable and strong enough to maintain and slow down the age process. Also No I been faster than my uncle Barry since I was The Flash before Flashpoint happened if anything being in the speed force after Flashpoint made me faster than I was previously when I was The Flash before Flashpoint and I surpassed my uncle a while back man but you should know that Barry understands the speed force on a scientific level and master it on a science level while I understand it on a spiritual level which is why I am more in tune with with it then Barry is and I have complete mastery over it on a spiritual level plus I master it back in the day and and pushed farther than anything Flash has with the speed force ⚡️
Wally is all over the place if Barry (the better flash)was in the speed force for that long soaking up all that energy he would be better he even says that the stupid writers made Wally different for no apparent reason
I seriously hate that Wally West is FASTER than Barry Allen. The Whole concept of it pissed me off, I love Wally but come on they got their powers the same way (struck by light doused in chemicals, bam super-speed) so explain how is Wally faster..
Hey rob! I know this is a DC video, but I have a marvel question! Who do you think is more powerful, Legion, or scarlet witch? I just finished a huge binge of legion videos, and then house of M, and it left me curious! Anybody is welcome to chime in with their thoughts. Thanks!
I don't really feel for the thing that Wally is trying to do. I mean everyone wants something back that they've lost. Bruce (Batman) is a perfect example of this. But going as far as to say screw the world I deserve this I feel it's just a little bit too far. Wally's supposed to be a hero but he's willfully choosing to put everyone at risk for his kids. And correct me if I'm wrong but have he and Linda Park gotten back together? They could just get together and have his kids all over again. Yeah, it would be a stretch saying that they would have the exact same kids but it's also a comic. I don't think it would be too farfetched.
Bro..... When Rob said Barry is not interesting Flash he's just a guy that runs really fast what do you mean he's not interested? His whole life is a story in itself he is probably one of the most interesting Flash's out there and he's the better Flash always will be
Everybody loves barry but his stories basically just pillage everything wally did in the 90s. Wally is the one who had so many speedsters and speed based enemies, reality shattering stories on an epic scale, and of course, the speed force. Barry just had the treadmill, thawne, and little stories with cute uses of speed powers. Barry died because he was boring, same as hal. But dc is so obsessed with killing every good idea they ever had. They bring us a new superman that nobody wants and bring back old flash that nobody was asking for.
I don't know much about flash war, but I definitely love the aesthetic each panel gives.
Welcome!
You two are everywhere in the TH-cam-verse
You've migrated to these videos too? Lord what has TH-cam unleashed?
You watch superhero videos too? Oh who am I kidding, what don’t yo watch?
... what if some guy with a moustache is just multiple accounts by this point
The art is so god damn good
It usually is in DC comics. Marvel has a lot of trash artist these days trying to be "different"
Howard Porter is a beast
I'm loving Flash War so far. I agree, the whole premise of Wally trying to rescue his kids is awesome.
First, this story will always be referenced when arguing who is the better/faster Flash, second, THE ART IS AWESOME.
Wally West vs *Kanye West*
Exxotic Lynx Kanye wins
Exxotic Lynx What if Wallace West named his kid Kanye? I would no longer read anything DC lol
Father vs Son
Am I the only one certain Barry doesn't NEED to use the cosmic treadmill to travel through time
MegatronusOrionpax 137 Because he did it without the treadmill before. Barry has the potential to be just as fast as Wally, I think Wally just has a better grasp on it somehow
I think Wally has a better grasp because he spent his life being told he was never as good as Barry.
Darryl Jones Jr. I hope he does, thank you for confirming what I said though, I was a little co fused when Rob said he had to use it and stuff. Why do you think Wally is portrayed as being faster than Barry?
I'm of the same opinion, I don't think Barry necessarily needs it, I think he uses it as a convenience to get him to where he wants to go.
Barry Allen is the fastest flash period becuz he the one who created the speed force smh how don’t u know this without Barry there is no speed force and also Barry do not need the cosmic treadmill to run thru time smh
Hey Rob, it was amazing to see you at DCC! Thanks for the pics, the shirt and the compliments about my voice!
"If you don't help me, you'll never run again!" Wally is coming off as a badass in this story. Can't blame him for being so angry and willing to do anything. If my son disappeared, I'd do anything to find him. My dog passed away last week, potentially poisoned by an asshole putting out rat poison that somehow made it into multiple people's yards. Nearly killed my neighbor's dog as well. I will do what I need to do to find the asshole responsible and make him pay. Not the same as a child, but my pitbull was like my best friend, and he deserves justice, just like wally deserves to find his kids by any means necessary.
Awesome love everything you do man. Just wanted to say RIP XXXTENTACION. I'd listen to his music reading flash all the time.
Wally is only faster because of the emotional connection to his kids in this story if it were Barry trying to save Iris and wally trying to stop him Barry would pull ahead too but Barry's already learned from his mistakes.
I'm pretty sure irey is just like a nickname, still named Iris, just referred to as irey
Also, when you look at the names in Wally’s museum, it says Iris!
Rob more of flash war please !
Maaaan I love the aesthetic, I can almost SEE the speed! so well drawn...
I love this still, I like much more Barry Allen as Flash than Wally and I'm not saying he sucks or anything, it's just that Barry was the first Flash using the speedforce and well, he actually out-raced death, that for me is a classic. On my personal fav also Jay Garrick will always be the first flash.
Rich gAmA Wally has outran death in Flash Vol 2 141
Hedge Spark Barry outran the black racer in Final Crisis whereas Wally outran the black flash to the end of time in flash vol 2 issue 141
Both wally and barry outran different versions of death
DJ May barry became death.
Nick Jojo Im aware but on a seperate occasion prior to flash rebirth and flashpoint barry outran death, yes later he became both the black flash and the black racer flash but he also outran it on a seperate occasion
Rest In Peace X, gone too soon, you will be missed.
Had I known Rob was gonna be in Denver I would have went to meet him. Now I’m hulk mad at myself. Good vid
The whole nine yards... Love it when he says that
Oh man, Oh man did I love this so keen for the next video I started reading just as Barry left and Wally came up so this was amazing!
Wally: Run, run, run, as fast as you can. You can't catch me, I'm The Gingerbread Flash.
~_~
Pre crisis Barry didn’t need the treadmill either
Dam dude the emotion at the end is amazing, and yes I would 1000% do what Wally is doing if they were my kids
Caught up on Comicstorian head over to Comics explained thats basically what i do at work lol!
I prefer barry and its killing me inside seeing Wally faster
but damn this story is good
Iris! WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!?!?!?
If your a Mega Man X fan you know what I'm going with here.
Can we talk about LooneyToon / DC Superheroes crossover comic.
Michael Brent yes
When Rob starts off with "This Story was Amazing!" 😄
Wally West jus' went BEAST MODE!!! ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Rob I have to be honest, I'm a huge fan but the one thing that consistently disappoints me about your channel is the lack of Swamp Thing content. Like come on man. Although its true that his most recent reincarnations have frankly been weak in regards to the writing, that doesn't make the original saga bad material to cover
i like wally's costume so much more than the old flash one where it was just a bit darker than barry's haha. Im on wally's side in this.
To be fair he wore that costume longer than barry
The thing I love about speedsters in dc is that each one has an ability that not they can do and no other speedster can do it but them I always enjoyed that
What I love so much about this story is Barry if he was older and more experience would find a way to help Wally find his children and save the speed force but because of new 52 and rebirth he’s younger and less experienced and doesn’t have the capabilities yet.
Rebirth has two flashes with equal experience but now Wally can show how much stronger he is.
Great vids bud. But when you get excited, you talk so fast man, I have to go back a listen a few times to catch up with what you're saying, slow it down a bit and your golden. Thanks for the explanations. Great channel.
So, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that because Barry is the Creator of the Speedforce, he'll have the ability to cut someone off from it. Which is where this story is going to end up going. Wally is acting erratic, to be honest, he's acting like a damn fool. Sure he wants to save his kids, but breaking the entire timeline to do it isn't going to save them. Wally won't heed Barry's warnings about playing with the timeline, and because Barry's made that mistake, he'll use this unknown (to the dc readers) ability to simply sever Wally Wests connection to the Speedforce.
This will lead Wally to becoming Eobards pupil, and learn to tap into the Negative Speed force.
DC finally giving Wally the chance to step in to light. After so many years i almost can't believe this is happening.
Love your vids man. Haven't been able to follow like I would want but when I do catch your content it's badass . Love the flash series most!!
Dude totally loving your channel keep up the greatness!
Yes love this channel
Man you didn't even cover that AWESOME splash of Barry just fucking Shoulder tackling Wally from behind into the dirt.
Keep up with good work Rob
7:07 Note to self - Don't kidnap Rob's kids.
I’m just disappointed that Wally west is faster than Barry Allen...
Make the flash faster!
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Irey is her nickname. I think she's still technically named Iris.
That megamanX Reference was Gold
Guys, guys the one flash we can all agree on is Flash (ahhh!, he's a miracle!) Gordon
The villain always knows how to save the hero's loved ones. Villainy CYA 101.
7:00 calm dude like chill
Personally I never understood how Wally was faster than Barry , Barry essentially created the speed force Wally just has a really potent connection to it. But who knows maybe Barry has been holding back all this time
WreckItRyan Wally has been faster because he's had years of learning how to harness it. You gotta read Flash Vol 2 man. In Flash Vol 2 Wally learned how to harness it's power, he gained a mainline connection to the speed force after reaching nirvana with it which meant he couldn't have his speed taken. Not just that but due to his mastery he also gained abilities such as stealing speed and lending speed and it doesn't matter if Barry created the speed force if you've trained with something for a long time you become better which in this case Wally became more powerful then Barry ever was due to how much better he was getting with the speedforce in Flash Vol 2
Rob please do The Terrifics now
Rest in peace X
Please rob can you cover justice by Alex ross
6:56 when she asked who else is missing I was at let me go down the list your kids the tornado twins, Max Mercury, Jay Garrett, your grandkid Bart Allen, and his cousin and also her father if he still alive.
bro let's go part 3 is out I ain't playing games Rob.
Ive seen stuff where Joshua Williamson talks about how Wally was his favorite Flash, but then he started writing Flash. When that happened he fell in love with Barrys character and he backtracked on Wally so much so that he started to believe he had "won the lottery" and that "we shouldnt like the guy who won the lottery". So im pretty sure that Flash War is gonna end with Barry winning and Wally getting COMPLETELY fucked and if so im gonna hate him lol
You either WITH ME OR AGAINST ME because I’m Getting My Kids Irey and Jai back and the rest of my family!!!! ⚡️
Rob I missed your vids :'( but your house looks amazing! Congratz
Rob talk about how wally is getting his own solo series
You Rob, can you do origin stories on Sabretooth & Stryfe? Heads really need to know how beast they are!
Hey Rob, do you ever do episodes about the authors, or industry related changes? I realize most people might think this is boring, but any aspiring writers, artists, or producers might dig it... Just a thought.
Wally West has always been my favorite speedster
I see rob's video, I click "like".
Didn’t Barry enter the time stream by running in Flashpoint tho??? You said only Wally can time travel by running without the treadmill....I’m confused...🤔🤔🤔🤔
Barry can run through time without the treadmill, i think it just hones his powers or somethin like that
In year one, he already time travelled to the future, saving Central City from King Turtle, that's without the treadmill and it's only been months since he got his powers. He never needed the treadmill, it's his fear that pushes him back unlike wally.
Dr. Manhattan is not behind all. Someone else is pulling the strings. He can't change reality and he states that himself in the original Watchman. Plus, that would be too easy.
Finally more flash war
That's funny, the renegades almost remind me of legends of tomorrow... Perhaps they used the renegades as an inspiration?
So, where's that one guy from the comments that was ABSOLUTELY SURE this wasn't Pre-Flashpoint Wally because "he didn't remember his kids"???
I'd very much like to hear from that guy now.
I think that DC Rebirth flash stories have worked on Wally and Barry in such a better way than New 52 did
Please make more and more again and again please
Wally is and always will be the best flash
Flash vs flash now it's a fast fight
I do personally think Barry will eventually be faster then wally. Wally had 20 years to get faster but I dont think it will really last seeing as that Barry getting more popular by the minute and he literally generates the speed force.
Hey Rob .....All Hail Megatron please
Rob will you please cover prehistoric ghost rider?
For those wondering as of the New 52, Barry Allen creating the Speed Force was retconned out and he is only connected to it like the other speedsters. It’s why he could lose his connection to the Speed Force when he became the Negative Flash and when Grodd stole his connection from him.
RedJay Man Are you sure that this is the case. I am prety serain that Barry is still the creator of the speedforce
TheFlyingLegend nope if he is the creator then he should be able to always generate the speed force. he’s been cut off the speed force multiple times in the new 52
@@talentroller4413 as he has been before new 52. I confirmed it though he ia and always will be the creator of the speedforce
TheFlyingLegend yeah lot of things has been retconned in both new 52 and rebirth. currently barry is no longer the creator of the speed force and that’s what matters. so wally would have the upper hand even more now
and Dont forget in this whole thing no one has remembered Jay Garrick yet! Makes me wonder who else might be trapped Jesse and Johnnie? Max mercury? Bart Allen (Even though hes free in the future)?
Oh thought this said Hawkman #1 is out and it's epic. Must've missed that one
Rob you need to check out the new death of a Superman movie it's on the Fire Sticks
I feel like all speedsters who are born with the speed force in them have that aging problem. Also the only reason Wally is faster than Barry is because he’s been tapped into the speed force since he was a teenager and Barry has been tapped in since when he was still an adult. I guess it’s that saying where if you learn when your young.
Damien Moloson The Speed force doesn’t do well with younger speedsters especially if you inherit it because for me it almost killed me and the body may not be capable and strong enough to maintain and slow down the age process. Also No I been faster than my uncle Barry since I was The Flash before Flashpoint happened if anything being in the speed force after Flashpoint made me faster than I was previously when I was The Flash before Flashpoint and I surpassed my uncle a while back man but you should know that Barry understands the speed force on a scientific level and master it on a science level while I understand it on a spiritual level which is why I am more in tune with with it then Barry is and I have complete mastery over it on a spiritual level plus I master it back in the day and and pushed farther than anything Flash has with the speed force ⚡️
Yesssss I love flash war!!!!! ⚡️
Barry can run through time on his own, in his fight with the reverse flash in rebirth they traveled in time
She was named after Wally’s aunt Iris but Irey is her nickname
Wally is all over the place if Barry (the better flash)was in the speed force for that long soaking up all that energy he would be better he even says that the stupid writers made Wally different for no apparent reason
I actually read that as I-REE, like a nickname of Iris rather than a different one. Maybe that's why you remember her name being different?
I seriously hate that Wally West is FASTER than Barry Allen. The Whole concept of it pissed me off, I love Wally but come on they got their powers the same way (struck by light doused in chemicals, bam super-speed) so explain how is Wally faster..
Hey Rob, Who do you think would win. Mad Jim Jaspers or Franklin Richards. Please do this video
You should do a how to unalive domino video. How does one kill someone with the power of pure luck
Hey Rob
Can you please do more transformers?
Last transformers video was awesome.
Quan Shean truth!
Hey rob! I know this is a DC video, but I have a marvel question! Who do you think is more powerful, Legion, or scarlet witch? I just finished a huge binge of legion videos, and then house of M, and it left me curious! Anybody is welcome to chime in with their thoughts. Thanks!
Please drop part 3 asap
I don't really feel for the thing that Wally is trying to do. I mean everyone wants something back that they've lost. Bruce (Batman) is a perfect example of this. But going as far as to say screw the world I deserve this I feel it's just a little bit too far. Wally's supposed to be a hero but he's willfully choosing to put everyone at risk for his kids. And correct me if I'm wrong but have he and Linda Park gotten back together? They could just get together and have his kids all over again. Yeah, it would be a stretch saying that they would have the exact same kids but it's also a comic. I don't think it would be too farfetched.
Don't spoil the fun. We know it's the BEST WAY! But DC wanted to have only ONE flash. This is the story THEY could come up with.
Please cover the Looney Tunes/DC Crossover !!!
Still not understanding how now Wally West is the fastest flash. That's like saying Cho Hulk was a stronger hulk than Banner. I'm not buying it.
Will Flynn coz wally west actually has feats for being faster than barry allen. cho hulk doesn’t
When ultimatum 3 tho.... like magneto breaks Xavier’s neck and you leave us in the dark rob??? I’m going crazy !!!
Jack_The_Masochist_Kelly MMA get a life loser
Wally is the best Flash.
Damn son when you gonna post part 3???
Bro..... When Rob said Barry is not interesting Flash he's just a guy that runs really fast what do you mean he's not interested? His whole life is a story in itself he is probably one of the most interesting Flash's out there and he's the better Flash always will be
Omega level/Beyond Omega level: Jack-jack
amazing
This Wally West could have clapped Barry if he really wanted to. Good guy Wally.
Hey Rob Corps
Hola :)
member berries **CORPS*
Rob Corps is Rob Core :P
'Member when core was spelled corps? I 'member.
it is still good that nobody wrote ROB CORPSE (black lantern version) :D :D :D
Everybody loves barry but his stories basically just pillage everything wally did in the 90s. Wally is the one who had so many speedsters and speed based enemies, reality shattering stories on an epic scale, and of course, the speed force. Barry just had the treadmill, thawne, and little stories with cute uses of speed powers. Barry died because he was boring, same as hal. But dc is so obsessed with killing every good idea they ever had. They bring us a new superman that nobody wants and bring back old flash that nobody was asking for.