Behavior Differences Between American and European Dobermans
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- The American Doberman is very different from the European Doberman in many key ways. One of the most important differences is in how these two dogs behave. This video will break down the results of an exciting research study Doberman Planet conducted into how the American and European Dobermans behave differently from one another on a day-to-day basis. This brand-new information should help you decide once and for all which of these two Dobermans are a better fit for you and your home.
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NOTE: The statistics shown in the internal PDF report differentiate slightly from the statistics presented in this video for two reasons. (1) With some questions, we eliminated responses such as "I don't know" and recalculated the results based on those eliminations for this video. (2) A few survey respondents sent in their surveys after this video was produced, slightly changing the results.
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In This Episode:
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0:00 - What You'll Learn Today
00:52 - How We Got This New Information
01:46 - Physical Differences
03:32 - Behavioral Differences
03:49 - Assertiveness
04:34 - Training Style
05:25 - Age at Mental Maturity
06:20 - Energy Levels
07:04 - Acceptance of Strangers
07:33 - Behavior in New Surroundings
08:23 - In-Tune with Owner's Emotions
08:58 - Bonding with Family
09:38 - Off-Leash Behavior
10:32 - Get Our Internal Research Report
10:56 - One Fun Outtro
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Just flat out awesome content... You're the go-to for all our Dobie research and THIS is why. 🙌 Thanks for putting in the work for us!!
Thanks so much! We really appreciate your kind words and feedback! We try our best to get the best content out for Doberman lovers and are glad you're enjoying it!
@@DobermanPlanet I have had both raised and train both and I have to disagree on alot you have said the European are very well in tune with his owner the American Dobie is in tune with everyone the European only his owner and the owners family will not leave your side either the only difference really is the American Dobie was breed down to make it more friendly with everyone. The American Dobie is a great watch dog but they will watch a thief carry your valuable's off but if your at home they will let you know someone is out there and they will be behind you all the way. But you take the European DOBERMAN they will hold that thief there until you get back home or he will leave with serious engeries but your stuff will still be there when you get back. American Doberman will say I see you and I'm letting you know but I'm not going to do anything about because that's the way I was breed. But both are very smart the European you want to socialize alot more the American you want have to as much they may bark at someone that comes to your door but then they will want them to pet them. I'm working with a German shepherd right now and she is a European shepherd she will not leave my side just like my Euro Dobie's would do and my American Dobie's would stick to my side. It is the same way with the American shepherd and the European shepherd the Euro it will fight to the death for you but the American Dobie and shepherd will say I will be right back I will go and try to find you some help...lol
I have had one each. The European was definitely bigger even though she was a girl. I found that the breeders made all the difference. My European came from a breeder who had beautiful dogs but he did not socialize them. The breeder of our American had beautiful dogs but she socialized them from day one. We socialized both dogs relatively the same. I am convinced that it is the breeder and socialization that makes the most difference. I am sure Temperament DNA has some influence as well. Keep any dog well exercised!!! I loved both dogs and would take just about any Dobe when push comes to shove.
Love hearing your experience with the two different types, Suzanne! You're definitely right in the fact that choosing a breeder makes all the difference. Temperament and exercise are also super important! So many things go into making a great, well-rounded Doberman!
@@DobermanPlanet Ok, folks, you have to understand that cropping is forbidden in almost all european countries. Fully cropped Dobermanns from Europe all come from eastern Europe like Bosnia, Serbia, Ucraine or Russia - they are on the edge of being qualified to be part of Europe since they're sh*t countries... They raise their pups like factories - I think you call it "puppy mills". You can't get a cropped dobie from Germany or any other western european country.
Some kennels in Bosnia, Sawages, raise their pups in a garage for export. No socialisation whatsoever. In my country, many of these dogs are euthanized after dogs biting children, their owner etc. Same with a huge kennel in Serbia who exports all over the world. Many incidents...
Top notch working lines are german, but they all have floppy ears and long tail.
@Doberman Planet - please remove the european union and german flags from your thumbnail since cropping is forbidden within the european union. Call it "slavic states Dobermann" or something...
Could you tell me the contact info about the european doberman
It’s funny to see how similar and at the same time different they are from each other. I personally prefer the Euro look, but I still love the American as well.
That's so true, Marino! We're glad you enjoyed seeing all the feedback we got for this video!
I see the appeal but I love how majestic and stately Americans look, they look like they could be flanking the queens throne when they sit with their ears up. I see the appeal of wanting a more robust dog though.
I wonder about intelligence? My American doby is 14 weeks old and he's learned every trick I can think of. He's even learned some of my mannerisms. Lol
Our American girl is the same age and she mastered everything after being taught once. She's amazing.
My Europe boy learns in 1 to 4 reps within one session. Had him at 8 weeks doing 13 different commands
@@taylorsteeger201 they are truly amazing. My boy takes about 3 reps. You should be proud, you've got a good one.👍
@@user-ox3gq8jo6g awsome!!! My boy takes 3 or 4 reps. I'm just not use to that smart of a pup. Although I must admit, he's not purebred...he is a rescue pup.
Yeah bro, they're such wonderful and intelligent pets you can have the pleasure of having. Some times I always feel it use to take a little more time to get my kids to do the same..Lol. You will enjoy them forever, my guy is 17 months old and I am beginning to worry how I am going to cope without him.
I didn't notice you make mention of the differences between fixed or unaltered. Perhaps an excellent follow-up to this study since we know that there is a profound effect on a dog's behavior and energy levels. (says the total newbie who hasn't even found a breeder yet)
Never had an American Dobie, but my Euro girl is a spot on.
I have American
I have had them both, if you want one just for a pet get a American Dobie if you want one for a big pet but at the same time one for protection get you a European. The American Dobie was breed down to just be a big pet but the European blood line is breed to do what it was met to do protect his owner and his family the Euro has that old blood line in them and with good health back ground checks and took good care of will out live the American blood line.
These scales are very accurate. I’ve been fortunate to have one of each. My American Dobergirl would sprint once and sleep all day, but my European needs 20 minutes of vigorous physical/mental exercise every 2-4 hours, all day, to unlock the floppy cuddle machine achievement.
One thing I noticed over the years with working with dobermans is when training a American you have a short 15 20 minute window before they turn the script on you and start to work you, where the Euros I have worked with had a longer training window closer to 30 mins. I train for ACK obedience and AKC CGCA my first Dobie I took to the OM level but wow that was a lot of hard work. I'm a Single male and I prefer female dobies in general. THe best way I describe a my American dobies is the term "Velcro Dog", they will stick to my side no matter what, my euros seem to be a bit more outgoing. Great vid and keep up the great work with Doberman Planet.
Don't think our family would have learned so much if its not for John and Dobermam Planet. I am grateful to John🙏
We call them, "the dogs you can't go to the bathroom without"! We've def noticed europeans are more vigilant and gruff
Both are very smart Dogs but I was working my Euro's on personal protection and this lady was watching so she went out and bought a American Dobie. It was the hardest thing I ever did to build that dog confidence up and still it would act like he was going to eat you up but if you stomped your foot and ran torge him he would run in behind the owner. But you wouldn't want to do a Euro like that or you will get eaten...lol but both are very smart. I my self have worked with these Dogs for years got my first one back in 1974 when they where all Euro blood lines my first one came out of Germany. I have all the respect in the world for both the American and European.
Thank you so much for all of your hard work, and for sharing your data with us! You’re an incredible breed ambassador!
Great info! I enjoyed filling out the survey and seeing the results!
What a great video, I have to totally agree with all this Data. When I compare my 2 Dobermans I owned, one being an American bred one and the other a Euro, the stats seem to be exactly what I experienced.
Once again love your videos and never miss em! Thanks for all the hard work and dedication that goes into these videos! Always interesting and fun to watch!
Consistently awesome content on this channel. HUGE thanks!
Fantastic research that's very interesting n informative. U really did ur homework. Doberman owners are lucky to have u as an ADVOCATE. Kudos for this invaluable video that can help prospective owners to decide on European or American Dobie breed. Missed seeing Arlo in ur vid. Looking forward to ur next vid.
I just wanna let you know that we got a Doberman 8 months ago, and she is our first dog together. We binged your videos before getting her and wow did you help us out. It’s amazing to have this outlet on TH-cam! Because dobermans do act a bit different than other dogs and it’s great that we can accommodate! Because it was pretty hard at first but now we got her training down pat and she’s 8 months and thriving now! So thanks so much :) we love our well trained dog, Eevee. She is also my ESA
Great video!!! I’m so excited that I found your channel!! I’m looking to become a Dobbie mom in the coming months and your channel has been so beneficial!
Thanks so much, Chenelle! We are glad you found us, too! Congratulations on welcoming your new Doberman home!
Love your content. Very informative and helpful. I am picking up my American Doberman puppy from a reputable breeder full AKC registration and health checked parents. Parents are awesome with great temperaments. I met them before puppies were born. I have never owned a Doberman, however I have owned German Shepherds and American Bulldogs. I have been been studying up on the breed your channel is one of the best resources.
I love love my Euro Dobies. Big tough and beefy protective girls. One is a daddy’s girl and my youngest is definitely all mine. Great information thank you for sharing.
We are so glad you enjoyed the video! That's sweet to see how they've adapted to "their person" over time. Each has their own personality and we know you wouldn't trade them for a thing!
I've learned so much from your videos. You really do a first rate job!
Fantastic data. Thank you for sharing Sir!
Thanks John. I lost my red boy in March due to kidney disease. Missed him so much I got another in July. He is 3 1/2 months old right now. Very smart. Knows how to sit, down give paw, be quiet, stand stay and come. He is doing pretty well with all. Right now we are learning how to walk on lead....this one is a little tough cause he wants to play with it. But we are working hard at this. Thank you for doing this video. I was thinking about a European, but changed because I have had Americans all my life, I thought maybe a European would be too challenging for me. Love your channel.. You are doing a great job.
This was the best video ever!!!!! It goes into so much detail and I am getting a full 100% Doberman in March/April. I have seen other videos on this however this was the best!!! I know it depends on the drive etc There is a test I believe it is called the Volhard test where you can test puppies on different categories to match the puppy with the correct owner but in general this was so good!!!! Thank you very much! As far as a male or a female I tend to like males better but that could just be that I have had both and the male was more loyal. I think it is the personality of the dog. I did see that the female in my experience was more in tune with me until we got the male after 2 1/2 years. The male was great with the whole family but favored me or my husband. Me when he was not there. When we both were not there he did not sleep in my daughters room however checked in on her then went to our bed. Female was to herself sometimes. he was the Alpha.
This video has cemented my decision to get a Euro Dobbie! I just have to make sure I finish preparing my house for my future new friend and, hopefully, by next November I'll have a Dobbie driving me crazy every day
Amazing video. I love your channel. My American Doberman is named Banelli. He’s 1 and I live with him in my RV.
great work as always mate! In the last couple of years I've pretty much come too the conclusion that my dogie has a mix of the two versions in his bloodline. This video has helped me confirm it. I cannot believe how big and muscular he is now. btw, laughed my head off on your video about "The witching hour" the other day. I can certainly relate to that one! lol!
I’ve had both. My first European Doberman is the one I have now. And you are spot on with this video.
This was eyeopening! Thanks
John another informative vlog !
I have a 7 month old male half American/half European. He really seems to have characteristics of both! Thanks for the great content 😊
Another fabulous video. I live in London and I have a gorgeous female European doberman. Some of the traits you mention fit my girl and some do not. We aren't allowed to dock and crop our dobies in the UK. My girl has massive flappy ears and a long tail. They are all fantastic. I love dobermans. They are absolutely amazing ❤️
Thanks for this !
Doberman planet has the best Doberman videos! Excellent
I’d love to see a video on integrating a new pup into a household with a senior dob ☺️
This is a very good video I want a Doberman I’ve been doing all my research
So great to hear! Doing research will put you "ahead of the game" when it comes to choosing your own Doberman!
Hey Doberman Planet! Thanks for putting out such great content. You always bring good energy and useful information.
I personally like the look of the American Doberman, but I really have a hard time finding them! I have no problem finding European Doberman breeders, but no American Doberman breeders. Any advise would be great!
Costa Rica Doberman? Not much information on them. Awesome Video! Thank you for publishing all the info you have!
Thanks so much, Blaker! So glad to see that you agree with all the data compiled from other owners! It's neat to see how it runs true for so many owners. We're happy you look forward to the release of these videos every week!
These videos are very helpful
Thanks for sharing! I've got an american and he's state of the art! He's 8 now and is an amazing most loyal and intelligent dog!
I just love your videos! I am was matched with a European Doberman by a big rescue place where I live. I’m excited, I’ve never had a Doberman before but I have been doing a lot of research on this breed. I can’t wait! I always thought I’d get an American Doberman but after speaking with the rescue and her matching me by my life situation she recommended a particular dog who was a euro. I’m hoping I will be able to handle him and his size lol
Great video! Was curious to see the life expectancy of the European and American side by side if there’s is much of a difference at all.
Thanks for this I’m hoping to get a Doberman next year
Been dying for an updated video of American vs European! Loki is VERY interested in what you have to say about the European side of things! Lol As always thank you for your dedication to this wonderful and amazing breed! 👏
So glad you've been waiting for this one! Subscribers gave us such great, new info on the two types and we were glad to put this together! Tell Loki that Arlo says hi!
Cool video!!Love it!
Thanks so much! We really appreciate that!
thanxx john great content !
We are bringing home a puppy who is 50/50 American and European this coming Saturday and can't wait to see which traits his individual personality will show!
Personally I'd prefer the Euro Dobie. Nevertheless I love the video, very informative. Thanks for the update.
Love all your Content :-D !!! Great Effort to clear all Myths about us... Coffeee the Dobe.. Love from India :-D
Great stuff John, as always - Sorry if I missed this answer - but since you may be as nerdy as I am bout this breed...did you happen to also obtain the gender splits within the survey responses? May have been skewed and required weighting since the gender split wasn't 50/50 on each primary category?
We've had both, and this is very accurate!
Nice video! Btw, do you own an american or an european doberman?
LOVE 💝 Wishing Thank You 👍🏻
Good info and content I'm enjoying your channel I'm considering a Doby however just yourself talk a little slower.Thanks.
LEZGOOO! Much love from the Philippines!
So cool! Thanks for reaching out, Marcy! We love having fans from all over the world!
This is so interesting! I have a female half American, half European… it will be interesting to see which traits she’ll develop stronger:)
Great comparison and having both an American and an European Dobermans I agree with all your findings!
Ummm, not to sound mean, but theres no english dobermann. Theyre a gean breed, but called european cause theyre bred in europe and are the predominant type here. The amerucan was bred in the states
@@iewutake Yes you're correct. My autocorrect went crazy. I meant European. Lol. Thank you for correcting this. I didn't proofread before submitting. Lol
@@terrizierke8528 happens lol
I love a new topic my friend
Peter, we are glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for the feedback!
I currently own an American and European Doberman. They are quite different animals. Good video
My boy is nearly 9 weeks, hes been w me for 5 days so hes still a lil shy outside, since the breeders raised the pups in a ranch hes kinda car shy, but super sweet loving smart and playfull. Hes absolutely amazing and is already super attached to me. Havent started training him yet tho. Hes a european. And as for off leash its also law. Dobermann arent super common in europe as they are in the usa so the off leash and muzzles laws differ.
My dog is very shy and he’s American. Love the video as always
Thanks for this!! It let me know I chose the right doberman! I have an American.
I wish you would do a video about the origins of the American Doberman pincher. There seems to be way more information on the European and I was curious as to how they branched off into a different type. I have two and both are half and half.
Great idea.... Would also be interested in finding out how the American branched off over the years!
Good idea! We've added that topic to our list of potential upcoming videos! That would probably be a video that a lot of people are curious to learn more about. Great suggestion!
I love both!
Regards from germany!❤👍👏
Thanks so much, Silvia! It really is hard to choose sometimes, isn't it?! They both have such great features.
Dummkopf... Fully cropped Dobermanns from Europe all come from eastern Europe like Bosnia, Serbia, Ucraine or Russia - they are on the edge of being qualified to be part of Europe since they're sh*t countries... They raise their pups like factories - I think you call it "puppy mills". You can't get a cropped dobie from Germany or any other western european country.
Some kennels in Bosnia, Sawages, raise their pups in a garage for export. No socialisation whatsoever. In my country, many of these dogs are euthanized after dogs biting children, their owner etc. Same with a huge kennel in Serbia who exports all over the world. Many incidents...
Top notch working lines are german, but they all have floppy ears and long tail.
@Doberman Planet - please remove the european union and german flags from your thumbnail since cropping is forbidden within the european union. Call it "slavic states Dobermann" or something...
Not only American dobbies are friendly, but also very gorgeous 😍
They do look pretty sleek, don't they?! Thanks so much for taking the time to leave this comment!
Oooo new video!
i just got my new and first doberman yesterday.
Hi I love your video's and dog
Thanks so much! We really appreciate that! Arlo says hi! :)
I just got a red American female Doberman. She is VERY smart! She has a really good temperament and seems to like all of us in the family. She does seem to be a bit more bonded to me and my hubby is a close second, which makes sense. I am with her all day and she is often on her bed at my feet. We set her between us at night when watching TV and most of the time she cuddles up next to me and then sometimes she goes and cuddles with my hubby, sometimes going back and forth. I do 99% of her feedings and to most of her training. Hubby and I do equal amounts of playing with her, and hubby does most of her walks with her, puts her to bed at night in her crate and pets her to sleep. He also gets up to take her out in the middle of the night and first thing in the morning. She goes everywhere with us and has never been left home alone in the 6 weeks we have had her. She doesn't seem to have any real fears and doesn't seem to get scared, but she doesn't care too much for being in water. She likes 2 of our cats, but not my sons GF's cat who we call a demon! That cat is mean and my dog barks at him ferociously! She is friendly to other people and dogs, but will act accordingly to how another dog is. Only twice when in our yard on her long leash did she begin barking at someone walking too close, but she will clam down when I tell her it's ok, but she stands guard just in case. She is a really good dog! I have never let her off leash, only in the house. Even in the house she has a leash on mainly to control her better with the cats. We take it off at play time, TV time and bedtime inside. Just thought I would share my Dobie experience! Love your study! If I get another one, I might try a traditional color European male. I like the American female for their elegant look and the European male for their strong look.
I have a female 3/4 euro 1/4 American. She is a stubborn thing at times. She is calming down but there is times she could care less if I have to correct her. We're fixing to start training classes we'll see how that goes. Hopefully she start listen when off lease better than she does now. Glad you did this video. Makes more sense why she acts the way she does at times.
You may have already seen it, but here's the video we made on off-leash training that might be able to help some with your situation: th-cam.com/video/83xwPlL8ldI/w-d-xo.html. So glad this video helped explain some of her behaviors!
Hi Rob, has the training helped? I have a 12 week old half and half female, I know what you mean with the stubbornness and doesn't care if we correct her! She can be quite bratty but getting better already - about 50% listening and 50% bratting!
@@marie-claudeblouin1129
Hi Marie. The training did help. You have to stay consistent with the training and discipline. I know the redirect method rarely works so ive had to be more firm with her. She's 9months now and is doing better bit we still have at least 1 to 2 crazy times a day. Good luck I hope this helped.
@@marie-claudeblouin1129
Oh. She is not off lease outside the yard at all. It may happen later down the road but she'll have listen totally before that happens
Rob Connell good to know, thank you! Planning to start serious training in the new year
Thanks so much for this info. I’m looking for a Doberman in the Spring of 2022. I thought I wanted a European, they are smaller. After watching this, I definitely want an American. I had a Shepkita (German Shepherd/Akita) He was the best dog, I loved him very much. He loved me too. He was stuck to my side everywhere I went. However, he had 110 pounds of stubbornness. My husband and son had the heavy hand. Me…well…I left Maximillion do as he pleased. 😬 He’d growl at me if I wanted to go to bed and he was on it. Ok…I’ll sleep on the couch. Husband and son…Get off, and he did! 😳 No growling.
I lost both my husband and Max within 6 months of each other. I want to start afresh. No heavy handed training. No amping up the protective side of the dog. I’m thinking with my son I will do this. Thanks again!
So Sorry for both of your losses.
We are so sorry to hear about your losses, Elle. How devastating for your family! Starting fresh is a great idea. We hope you and your son have a successful and enjoyable life with your new Dobie! Don't be a stranger! Love hearing people's experiences throughout the process!
Hi love all your videos. I have some questions.I just acquired a Rescue American Doberman and Veterinarian says he is about 2 years.I have two other mix breed Rescue dogs.And Doberman does fine with one dog .He wants to fight the other dog badly.I think he could really hurt the other dog.
The Doberman was definitely not socialize very well .He is very reactive to other dogs barking while walking. To us he very sweet but high energy. I don't know anything about his background .
We walk him 3 miles a day and I am trying to teach him to fetch. I am using his your videos. Doberman seems very scared in different settings sometimes. What kind of collar should I get the Doberman and should I get dog trainer to come to our home or Send the Doberman away for two weeks to a K9 boot camp?
Please Advise
Thank you so much.
Can you do a video on cleaning the clipped and natural ears
i have my american doberman and shes basically is the sweetest, most loyal, and smartest dog ever! shes easy to train
Do you recommend and breeders here locally in the USA? My wife and I are looking for a Doberman this coming winter.
Wow ur amazing 👏
You're so kind! We really appreciate the thoughtful words of appreciation!
I have two black American Dobermans name Cersei in zion who are 3 years old and I also have one red European Doberman named Titan that is almost 9 months old,they are so funny and cute
damn you have 3 dobermans
That's great! We're sure they each bring a lot of joy to your life!
@@DobermanPlanet yes Queen Cersei, Zion and Titan are such a handful but at the end of the day we love them all
I have worked and have raised Dobermans for years. The American Doberman is more for the show ring but if your wanting one for protection you better get the European but both breeds are very very smart and all a Doberman wants to do is please his master, I think they are the smartest Dog breed there is. Very easy to train a first time Dog owner could train them there self.
Great video John. Thanks.
Just wondering if I get a DNA test done will it be able to say if its a American or European or half and half.
That's a great question but I'm pretty sure a DNA test will tell you exactly what he is.
Basically, it will just tell you if he is 100% Doberman or not. It will tell you what part of the world the mother's line and father's lines are from, but since all Dobermans are from Germany it's unclear how much useful info on that question you can get from that result. We hope this helps answer your question!
@@DobermanPlanet Thanks John
I have a half European half American female. She is 15 months old. She looks more European in stature, weight and coloring. She is calming down to some extent but she is definitely a one person dog. She’s weary of strangers but can warm up to people. I never have her off leash and she does wander while checking in on me. She is in between on the training as well. Positive works sometimes and sometimes it doesn’t. She is hyper sensitive to my emotions and I have her trained to put deep pressure on me and get on my lap if I’m triggered from ptsd. This video def makes sense haha.
hi just want to ask can you make a video about border training
Hey John, what Doberman is Arlo? American or European. I’m leaning towards European. I feel they’re going to be a great dog regardless but I like the heavier look to the European.
Our little boy is of European bloodline ( so we are told) we got him from a breeder. So far I think he is European because his paws are huge at 9 weeks old. Anyway, it’s been about 1 week and a half and he is very intelligent, willing to please, but I do have to say, not great around small kids, I have a 2 year old and 6 year old and they basically running chew toys for him. He doesn’t really nip or bite me because I’ve trained him not too, then praise him and re direct him to an actual chew toy. He’s made great strides in that category towards me; but my kids? Not so much, I have to be there like a hawk. I’m really scared that one day I’ll leave him for a few seconds and our little hades might playfully hurt him, he’s already left minor marks around his calves and made him cry once or twice. Anybody have any tips? It would be much appreciated!
The truth is the American Doberman is a more family-friendly version of the European Doberman. Similar
changes have happened to many other dog breeds including The Greatdane, The English mastiff, and many tarriers.
Thats great! Because I'm not looking for a gaurd dog
@@ms.pirate don't get a doberman then :)
Most of that video was what I'd have expected, but those last couple categories made me think they were more reflective of people who took on "too much dog" for them than the actual inherent qualities of the breed strain. It doesn't make sense to me that the purpose-bred working line would be less in tune with their owners or more prone to just leave them (a quality that, in an adult dog, smells a lot like training deficit). However, I have seen a few European Dobermann owners who wouldn't let their dogs off leash simply because they had almost no control over them (aka who had no business getting a serious working dog in the first place). I wonder if some respondents didn't interpret "in tune" to mean "constantly checking in on me visually," which is something I'd associate more with the Americans, but isn't necessarily a good barometer of how tuned in the dog is in the sense of how well the dog can and does read you and if/how they alter their own behavior accordingly.
100% agree with your observations. The Euro Dobes, quite frankly, have a much stronger drive & work ethic. If you're wanting to go into IPO/Schutzhund, the Euro Dobe is the way to go. The American Dobes are more geared for show, and imo, they're lacking greatly in the drive/work ethic needed for IPO. I have had both and can tell you from experience that my American dobes failed (big time) in the IPO training whereas my Euro Dobes fell flat in the American show ring. I am about to get an Am/Euro cross puppy in 3 weeks. I am excited to see how this guy comes up in the world. I do a lot of my own training and am eager to see what comes of this puppy.
I have 5 Europeans and 5 Americans and 5 European + American so totally 15 . These three types of dobermans have different mentality, so I have specific maintenance experience and I'm also living with the European dobermans for 20 years American dobermans for 20 years and American +Europeans for 16 years although I don't have experience about the females because all 15 of my dobermans are males.
How are the Euro/ Americans different for the others. Anything really specific
There is 100% a difference. My first dobe was an American. My European dobe is definitely very similar but different, more stocky. Although I think my American is shorter. My EUro dobe is way more athletic than my US. I also agree with the family bonding. My boy is way more attached to me because I am home with him always. He wants to know where I am at all times and be there with me. He def sees my son as competition
I love my owner so much but I tend to have a special bond with my owners dad who is also my dad because my owner is my brother!
I'm a Dobbie lover 😍
In europe it's pretty common that having dobies (and other "vicious" breeds) off leash in public is illegal. so that might skew the results a bit on the off-leash behaviour
I live in Denmark, however I'm interested in getting an American Dobermann (Pet Dobermann).
Are there any kennels in New York area you would recommend us to look at?
Does Arlo ever push back, challenge or refuse to do what you tell him to do?
This was great, thanks for the effort you all put into this. American Female it is 😉
Can you please make a video comparing Doberman and Pitbull
What type of ear crop does Arlo has? Show crop? Medium crop?
As an owner of both this info seems pretty spot on the my American is very clingy and doesn’t want to leave my side and my red female European is pretty much a diva
I'm getting a 50/50 Dobie in 3 weeks. I'm just taking the average of both results 😅 Still some really good insight. Thanks John.
The main thing is a back ground health check on the breeders Dobie's . That goes for the European blood line too, Beleave me that should be your main concern. I wouldn't want anyone to get a Doberman and it dies on you in just four years and there is alot of breeders out hear that there Dobie's have some bad health problems. And a good breeder only has two colors black and tan or red and tan if they have pups that are blue or fawn colors you better find another breeder that will be a big sign of health problems.
Wouldn’t off leash behaviour be largely influenced by training? It’s the same with strangers in the home, how are the dogs trained?
Well.... the absolute best would be a cross of American with Euro. I am picking up my puppy in 3 weeks who is a Am/Euro cross. His sire is out of a Euro line and his dam is all American. I'll let you know how he grows up, but if he's like any of his cousins and older brothers/sisters, he is going to be awesome. Temperament, working ethic, drive, intelligence. It's going to be exciting to raise this pup. Thanks for the 4-1-1 on the A v. E Dobes.
are you familiar with DVG and ring sports
Decisions, decisions…..I want both 🥰🥰🥰🥰
My boy is 50/50 mix so this is interesting to see.
Just bought a mix of both . His daddy was European and his mom was American. It will be interesting to see how my little baby Doberman will be more like his Dad or Mom or both.
I rescued a younger, adult American Dobie over 20yrs ago, she and a Rottie were the 2 best dogs l ever had. I am wondering about American/European Doberman Cross, any info on that?
Good question
He made a video awhile back about the half n half
@@AmaraSoGolden Thank you, l will look for it.
@@kathieswan3830 yeah no prob! You get the best of both worlds with them
Hi, Kathie! Great question! Here is the video we did all about half American and half European Dobermans: th-cam.com/video/iXK9ZcxjJ5o/w-d-xo.html. This should give you some good information!